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    Posted: 24 August 2007 at 11:07am
So im sitting at my desk 2 weeks of work to go. I have been booked in for an elective C section 18th september.
I really wonder if the bond between mother and child is stronger after a natrual birth?

I am so worried and sceared about my soon to be C section.I will be under GA and my husband cant be in the room because the previous c/s was so stressfull.

I had to have one with Katelynat 37weeks as she was breach and i had extreamly high blood pressure.
This time it is optional,because i had one before you get to choose.
I am so afraid of giving birth natrualy, i get so wound up thinking about whats involved and loosing control. Thing is i suffered badly after haing Katelyn with thoughts 0f not doing it properly ie natrual birth.
I have never used ohbaby and its not something i would usually do but i have stumbeled across the site and if there is anyone out there who could possibly help me out i would really appreciate youre advice.
I really dont know what to do.


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Hi, welcome to OhBaby. I had an elective c-section three months ago because my son was breech and I found the experience to be overall really good.

I think when you know exactly what is going to happen, you mentally prepare yourself for it and it becomes easier to deal with when the time comes.

I'm sorry to hear about your suffering after you had your daugher. I think most women feel a certain sense of disappointment after a caesar because they haven't had a natural birth.

Not sure if that helped or not, but there are heaps of women on this site who have been through what you have and this is a really good place to talk out your feelings and worries as there is a lot of support here.



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Jitske, 2 years ago I was in a very similar position. I haemorraged mid-labour with my first baby, it was to do with the placenta so it wasn't likely to happen again but there was always the chance. Throughout my pregnancy I decided I wanted to go for VBAC, I think initially it was because I felt I had "missed out" on the experience and thought it would be better for me and bub. But then at 35 weeks, mw thought baby #2 (Briona) turned breech and it looked like I wouldn't have the choice of going for VBAC because of 2x risk factors.

Well, 2-3 scans later and all of them she had been head down. So I don't know if the mw was feeling wrong (even with second opinion) or if baby was just playing games with us! But I knew that if I had two c/s I might not have another chance at VBAC. I decided to go for VBAC in the end, and it did work out, but I stressed about it from 35-38 weeks because I didn't know for sure if it would work out, or if I'd have to have Emergency CS again - my biggest fear was to have the emergency status again. And I had to let go of feeling like c/s was a "failure" because for me, it had actually been a lot of extra work, and it had got me a healthy, breathing baby.

My close friend went through the same decision a couple of months later but she went for elective c/s like you. She said her 2nd c/s was so much easier because she knew what to expect and it didn't have the emergency stress like her first birth had.

Stock up on freezer meals and grocery shopping that won't expire (cans, toilet paper...); find someone to look after your older child for a few days while you recover at hospital; let yourself accept that having a baby by c/s is not a failing at all (if it's the best choice for your baby's delivery then how can we call that a failure!); and I think you'll be able to look forward to the birth. And this time to have 3 weeks to prepare instead of a few minutes.
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HI there:)
yeah i like knowing whats going to happen and the date.

I guess i feel guilty because it seems like im taking the easy way out.
I just know this is our last one and i feel like i will now never be apart of that mummy group, sharing birth stories.
having a 2 year old also scares me because how will i run round after her as well as the new one??while im tring to heal.
youre son is addorable:)
what a cutie pie!!!
thanks for youre help
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i havent had a c est but wanted to say that i dont feel part of that mummy group either but cause both times i was induced and never went into labour naturally. giving birth, whichever way you choose, is never easy.
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You are so right!
thanks guys. Its awful to be so worried about something and make a plan that may in facyt not even work out.
I could plan away and try to prepare eithewr way.
Its just an awful feeling not knowing whats going on because of the stress's involved in the previous c/s they have alloud me to go under GA which means my hubby wont be able to be in the room but ill help me cope better?? So you had 2 VB after the 1st C/S thats so great:)
Its horrible to feel like we fail just because we are not the norm. What is the norm?
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hi there no theres no norm i had a emergy c-sec with james and felt horrable like i didnt deserve to be a mum and felt i didnt bond with james in thoses frist few weeks i talked about my britwith my mum friends anyone who would listen and it relly does help

gandt i was induced aswell and thought whats wrong with my body i,m not a mother but if you relly feel like it we are just as much mums and in the mothering group as any woman that as had a text book brith big hugs hunn
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Originally posted by jitske jitske wrote:

I guess i feel guilty because it seems like im taking the easy way out.


Are you saying that having a c/s is easy? Actually the way I look at it is that a VB is painful beforehand and a c/s is painful afterwards. There's no easy way and some births are easier/harder than others, but not just limited to c/s either.

I was also concerned about a 2yo running around while I would be healing from my c/s but since you know in advance this time, it should be easier to rally support? People to pop in or take her off your hands for the afternoon etc? If your family isn't very supportive/understanding, then make some new friends quick
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I totally agree with busymum. I guess VBs are a whole lot of pain crammed into a couple of days and a c/s is spread out pain over a couple of weeks but not unbearable.

Good luck.
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I had an emergency CS and if/when I have #2 I'll have an elective CS as I'm terrified of going through all that again.

I certainly don't feel any less a mother or woman for having a CS and personally feel too much emphasis is put on the birth method (in my opinion) and some CS Mums end up being judged and made to feel inferior to VB mums. You have grown that healthy baby from a tiny cell for 9 months and will continue to look after and help that baby grow into a person for the rest of your lives, that is some achievement to be proud of!

So to answer your question, I had no issues at all bonding with my daughter and out of all of the people I know who have had a CS (emergency or elective), not one has said different.

All the best with the birth - don't forget to post photos of your little one for all us clucky mums
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I have had two VB's and a CS for my third. There are some people that are always going to find fault in what you do, I have been told that due to my short labours 10 and 2 hours I don't know what real labour is!! And you know what I don't care. A CS is a birth story in itself and as for being easier not to offend anyone but hell my VB's were a dam sight easier than my CS (probably helps that they were uncomplicated and quick).

The way I see it you have carried this child for nine months and you are giving that child life, it doesn't matter which way baby comes you already belong to an exclusive club "motherhood"!

You need to do what is right for you, and not worry about anyone else.

As for your question, I never noticed any difference in bonding with my children, I think what helps is you have to believe that you are doing the right thing and accept that decision. Don't doubt yourself. Having a CS makes you no less of a mother I can't stress that enough.



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Hi there.

I had an elective cesear done due to other circumstances. The spinal didnt work so went totally under before hubby was there.

I was really scared I wont get to bond with baby. But do you know what? I let hubby do Kango care. Which basically means as soon as they have done checks on baby, hubby gets to hold baby skin to skin. Let them put baby just with a nappy on his skin under his t-shirt and then wrap a blanket over them. They can do all the temp checks just as baby is. And bubs get that touch and feel that they need after birth instead of staying in a incubator.

It helps with their body temp it doesnt dip and then go up ect. It stays stable and it is a perfect time for hubby to concentrate on baby.

Then when you wake up hubby can bring baby to you. If you can try and put baby immediatly on your breast (if you are going to breastfeed). If not try and put baby naked on your chest and just take time to hold and cuddle your baby.

Just remember wether you have given natural or cesear moms in both groups sometimes have trouble bonding and that is okay. Just try and spent as much time with that sweet baby and it will come.

I had a few moments of crying when I saw movies of cesears where the mom was awake during the procedure or during natural birth. (during the first 3 months) But now I dont regret it at all. It was lovely to hear hubby said that he felt special getting to hold her first as I already had a bond during pregnancy while all he could do is really watch.


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And dont worry you will have a birthstory. It might just be that hubby needs to fill in the blanks for you. Tell him to take lots and lots of pictures. And if you can ask the pediatrician to take photos if he is allowed of baby coming out for you.

Great tip about the frozen meals as well. If you can get lots of small toys for your 2 year old that you have in a bag next to you. So when you feed baby your 2 year old can have some special toys. Dont need to be new toys. Just some activities to keep busy with.


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Hi,

I'm fairly new here too but just thought I would let you know my story as well.
My mw had been telling me that baby was head down and ready to come out. At 35 weeks I had a small leak of fluid and my backup midwife saw me that day and told me that baby was head down and engaged, and that the leak might stop or I might go into labour. 12 hours later contractions started and my waters broke completely, because of being 35 weeks the obs wanted me to come to hospital straight away, I wasn't seen for a few hours by doc because of more urgent mothers. once I was seen at 4am after 5 hours of contractions, she first tried to claim that I had wet myself and that my water had not broken, because I was so adamant that they had indeed broken she used a portable scanner to check, I was right they had broken but it was also at this stage that I found out that baby was breech. I had not prepared myself at all for a c/s and at 7am when they were prepping me for the OT I was freaking out. Luckily for me for some unknown reason (maybe stress) labour failed to progress and I was 38 weeks and an elective c/s when I had him. That extra time allowed me to fully prepare myself (and my hubby) for what the birth was going to entail, including recovery. I have had no problems bonding with my baby.
I think if you are fully aware of the whole process and feel in control of what is happening to you and bub it will be a positive birth for you both.
And anyone who thinks having a c/s is a cop out should try having major surgery and then looking after a newborn!!!
I hope it all goes well for you.
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I know having a C section is major surgury i think the people that have felt the right to judge on my first C section really dont know andf infact none of them have had one either!!!!
Crazy how i have alloud these people even make me feel less than that.
I was in alot of pain after Katelyn. I did struggle bonding with katelyn but i will try get some skin to skin contact asap.

Oh Funnny funny Monday i started having contractions at baby city lol!!! keiled over the counter so embarresing so off to hospital where eventually they stopped. Mid wife put me off work straight away so this week has been so nice:)
Katy still at day\care so been able to chill out and pre pare my self.

thanks guys rweading youre help has been awsomereally appreciate it
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at least it was just in Baby City, I would imagine they're a bit more friendly to the "woman in labour" than Mitre 10 would be
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Hehe the guys at Mitre10 would have you at the hospital in an ambulance asap on account of freaking out!

Originally posted by smoody smoody wrote:

And dont worry you will have a birthstory. It might just be that hubby needs to fill in the blanks for you.


I used my maternity notes to help me remember all of it or the order of things. And that wasn't just after the c/s either!
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Good luck jitske - just remember that c sections have been around for years and years - Shakespeare wrote about them (though I wonder about the survival of the mother back then!)

Ignor the stupid people who say insensitive things - I truely believe that a good birth is one that results in a happy and healthy muum and bubs, think of how many of us would have died in the past without the option (scary really).
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Oh, and I couldn't imagine a stronger bond to my bubba!
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Hi Jitske, 1st off may I say that 18 September is a fantastic day to have your baby, it has been a great day for me for many years!!!
I struggled a whole lot with having an emergency c/s with Ashlyn, we even got to 9cm but she wasn't going anywhere on her own so off to the theatre we went ... all went well or seemed to be until 11days after we ended up back in hosp with an infection, those 1st few days were pretty much a blur, but I had problems breastfeeding also & passed on thrush to baby & things just didn't go well so I was very much looking forward to trying for a VBAC with Anastasia but after 3 days of trying to induce & going thru a roller coaster of emotions we had another c/s but had a better support system & better m/w second time round & didn't have the same problems & was able to breastfeed which helped me get some confidence back. I was in hosp with 2nd for 6days which was great & I found the rest of recovery wasn't too bad as I knew my limits. I also had issues with letting control go so blamed myself for "unsucessful natural births" but it is something I am getting over.

Sorry this was so long winded, if you would like to talk more feel free to pm me or e-mail kezplanet@hotmail.com
good luck with your c/s - also we had the anaesthetist take photos for us as he had a good idea of timing & was in a good position so they may be able to arrange something as a record for you and hubby
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