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    Posted: 25 November 2007 at 8:21pm
Does anyone know if it is possible to choose to have an elective cs without going into labour, because of previous bad experience with vb with first baby, without going through private specialist?
I have PTSD and PND following Isla's birth, but does this justify having an elective cs without going into labour (in the eyes of the health system)?

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Hi Kellz, you'd need to talk it over with a mw who has read your notes. But I would have thought that both those would be just as possible after c/s as VB?
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Oh yeah I know that having a CS wouldnt stop the chance of getting PND or the risk of getting PTSD,....but the thought of having to go though labour and birth, beacuse of what I went through and the subsequent PTSD/PND, is enough to stop me ever having another baby
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as far as I'm aware you can request anything you want, the issue is finding a public LMC/Obs.

With your history I doubt anyone would argue your decision.

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P.S

Just wanted to add - I think your reasons are just as medically warranted as any CS
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Thanks Toni Yeah my MMHN thinks that I should look for a very understanding midwife even before we start ttc. I agreed this may help to lessen my anxiety about it all.
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I'm definitely having another CS even if the main reason for the first was is unlikely (she was posterior and had the cord wrapped twice around her neck).

So you could say that there is no reason for me to need another CS - but I'll certainly be arguing that fact, as should you.

I totally agree that you should fine an LMC before TTC #2. I've already made my MW promise to be available for me if and when we start TTC #2
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Yeah it just seems a bit weird to start looking for an lmc now tho! Like,..will they be interseted in talking to a lady who doesnt even know for sure if she is going to have a no.2 or not?!
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I'm sure you can have a chat with any LMC just to go over your options, no one will blame you for wanting to do that pre TTC.

I take it you wouldn't want to use your old MW then? I had a really good chat with my old MW when I got to that "questioning" time at around 4mths post-c/s. She was fantastic then and when I was pregnant with Caitlin and wouldn't hesitate to book her again for #2.

I've got her email addy if you wanted to talk it over with her? She's a bit slack with her replies as she's flat out all the time with births etc
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My MW got a new job when I was 32 weeks preg,...so I was allocated a new midwife. I wouldnt want her again, and we have just moved towns anyway. I will have to ask around a bit about midwives here I guess.
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my cousin had an elective c section with her first after her traumatic first delivery, this time round she said it all went like a dream. i do think they take into account your *mental state* (for want of a better word) when making a decision like that.
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Oh cool, thanks for that Lyla. I guess I just need to start with finding a good midwife.
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Its your body & your birth experience & i believe you can choose what ever you want.

Electives are a dream!! Thats in comparison to my 1st 51+hr dry labour which ended in emergency c-sec anyway.
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Originally posted by Glow Glow wrote:

Its your body & your birth experience & i believe you can choose what ever you want.


I agree, but I didnt know if the public health system does or not!
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I wanted to have a c sect with Charlotte after my experience with #1, but I just couldn't get into see the OBGYN here as one was off sick and the other was packed to the gills with "real problems". Our hospital dosen't do elective C sections here anyhow, so that might be something you might want to check out. Talk to your Dr, maybe, they would know about funding and who to talk to next etc. Good luck and I hope you get what you want! And for the record, I ended up having miss C Vb, and it was super easy this time... (and I eventually got an emergency appt with the sick OBGYN on my due date, who said she would be on standby when I was induced and they would give me a csect at the first hint of anything I couldn't cope with... Didn't help with the not going into labour thing, though...)

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Thanks Annie. I would handle going into labour I think. I have good memories of the first 12 hours of my labour, when I was at home. I would love a nice birth experience, but Im so petified it could go the same way again.
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I totally think you are warranted in considering a c-sect, and I agree that finding a supportive LMC is the most important part. You don't have to make the final decision about how you birth till very late in the game, so even if you plan for an elective c-sect and then at the last minute decide you want to trial a labour and VB you can always change your mind, the key thing is having an LMC who will be supportive whichever way you go.
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Kellz my friend had a very bad first birth, MW didn't check to see if she was fully dilated and just told her to push , baby was posterior and she had all sorts of issues. She ended up for her second going with a dr as her LMC and having appointments with an OB to go over the birth. Her second birth ended up being a very straight forward VB.

However I feel that you warrent a CS if you want it. Ask the gissy people on here (and ex ones - Lizzle) about LMC's.

I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived!
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I think you have a medical reason for wanting a c/s. Also I thought that any women could choose to have an elective c/s even if there isn't a "medical reason" (although I might be getting confused with the UK).
I hope you find a supportive mw and ob and have a better experience next time.

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i agree - i think your experience in itself warrants you having a reason to go elective...

and I rave over mine...I would do it again in a heartbeat....just hate the 9 months getting there!!! but truly being able to plan the entire thing down to how the babys photo will be announced (thanks Anil!!!) was awesome...and I came out feeling like my head was in a good space...I dont think i couldve coped with labour and the unknowns...and knowing exactly what was going to happen when and where relaxed me!
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