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i must say i never got told what could happen i got told about the epi risks...but nothing about the c-section ones..though i figured as much and am certainly proof even though they say my issues cant possibly be because of c section how come they all started right after!:)

but having said all that to avoid my child potentially dying like was the risk last time i think elective will be the go!
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Yeah the thing that worries me the most is how many dead legs etc I got after the spinal block. I had problems for about 2 months with pins and needles and dead legs happening when ever I sat still for longer than 10 minutes.


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I still have issues with pins & needles & it has been 3.5 years since my 2nd c-section.

Honestly ladies, I don't think c-section is a cop out & yes normal birth isn't always butterflies & party balloons LOL. But it can be great! I'm proof of that. I did a LOT of research after my c-sections and it was AMAZING the stuff that I learnt & the risks that my OB didn't mention (or I missed because of the scariness of it all) with c-sections.
I really wish the information was more readily available & that some real NZ studies were conducted on VBAC and that the risks of c-section vs vbac were better understood. I was even quite disappointed when the first OhBaby magazine came out & there was a question regarding VBAC answered by a so call "expert" and yet it was full of answers which went like "I believe...", "I would imagine..." & "I am unsure...". He only put in his own opinion where he lacked knowledge instead of doing any kind of quick study to find some real MEDICAL facts (like what I have found in medical studies). I was really disappointed with OhBaby in the regard but I guess it can't please everyone.

Here I am preggy with an unexpected baby #4 & I guess I will be planning another homebirth


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just found this topic.. i hate the word elective like i am chossing to have a c section over a vaginal birth.

I'm not i have to have a c section or the baby can't come out! It's a miracle i can carry a baby anyway.

Get annoyed when people say "oh why do you have to have a c section?" Like it's any of their business!

I usually say it's because i have a small pelvis
(other issues as well) like the fact going into labour could put the baby at huge risk fracture my pelvis and dislocated hips! forceps were used inthe first one as DS was stuck inside my pelvis!

I had a c section with DS1 and have to with DS2 and all the other children we are having, there is no other option for me!!

Sorry about the rant

just get really annoyed... had to say to a work collegue it's none of their business how this baby come out as long as it comes out.!
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Today someone was asking when i was due and i said 21st dec but will be having this one early due to csection..........and they said "oh you never know you might not have to have one" they have absolutely no idea why i am having one to start with so i can only assume they immediately thought i was gonna just cop out.............so then i felt like i had to justify myself by saying "yes I will have to have one and no it wont come naturally, not without putting my life and babies life at risk"   

Milo1 i have a similar prob with my pelvis and docs have had to use forceps to get both my boys out even with having csections, so if i was to even try natural it would be a very traumatic experience followed by a more than likely csection anyway.

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*lurker in*

Just want to say you guys are brave. The thought of natural child birth doesn't bother me but the thought of a csection scares the life out of me.

You guys are brave and I would never think anyone here was the "britney spears type" for electives, but instead that you all have good reasons.

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i guess for me too it's hard when mw says they prefer to try for natural birth but ' you have higher chance of rupturing your c-section scar' and other gems like that... so not just babies health to consider..mine too!

I was so naive..natural birth scared the hell out of me but i hadn't really thought about c-section being an option or that it would be so hard(in my case) to recover from)
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My MW gave me some stats for rupturing...depending on your circumstances you might be surprised at how low they actually can be!

It's funny, first time around natural birth scared me too, now it's the idea of a c-section the scares the heck out of me!

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I was at a family thing the other night and my SIL found out I was having a C and said 'why? because you can?' - I'm still annoyed about it. Yeah I'm doing it simply because I can why on earth would I bother to give it any thought?

It really annoyed me that a) she was asking (no one asks why you have a vaginal birth) and that b) she just assumed I saw it as an easy way out.

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sorry to jump in - only just saw this post :)

I had a c-section with DD 1995 - and it took me years to recover from it. I have constant back pain, suffer from a nerve problem since the epidural.

Just been to see my specialist today - he has said try for a natural birth, oh yeah your scar can rupture - i was like WTF? no explanations nothing

i am petrified now - I have no idea what labour is like, as DD was elective, and I dont want to have another needle in my back :(

sorry whinge over
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lillis....honestly, get him to give you stats and figures...as i say, they can turn out to be lower than you think! Honestly I hate when "specialists" give thier recommendations/warnings and then don't back them up.


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Here you go....your chances of rupture....

If you had a C-Section last time, you can still have a Vaginal Birth this time. Do you know the most decisive factor in whether a woman can successfully have a VBAC ? Age. But not the age of the mom, or the term of the baby. The age of the doctor!
That's because doctors used to be educated with the misinformation that uterine rupture was more likely with a vaginal birth after caesarean. But the New England Journal of Medicine published a landmark study in 2004 showing that uterine rupture occurs in less than 1% of VBACs. In other words, a woman who had a C-Section is just as likely to be able to have a healthy vaginal birth as any other woman.

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I'm so amazed because at my OB consult the doc really pushed VBAC, she explained the risks of a VBAC but also the risks of having another c/s. She also said that there has never been a rupture at chch womens (which made me think maybe they were due one) She did however scare the crap out of my DH, i however already knew all the risks and wasn't bothered (well i was but you get what I mean).

Labour is not that bad, and on the plus side you honestly don't care what they are sticking in your back or what they want to stick up your jacksy to get the baby out. When the guy was explaining that there is a potential risk to those all sensation in your legs permanently and end up in a wheel chair I thought that sounded great, and when they offered to use the vontouse after I had been pushing for two hours I couldn't have cared less, I would have been quite happy if they had wanted to use a crow bar to get him out.

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thanks ladies- i know I am probably just freaking out for no reason but this is all pretty scary.

this pregnancy is so different to my daughters but I think that is the age gap so I feel like this is the baby # 1 all over again.
I wasnt scared then -but I am now - shouldnt it have been the other way around?
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Lillis, back then you didn't know what could happen whereas now you do? Thats my thoughts anyway....

I remember when I was due with Erika, the OB was fine for me to have a VBA2Cs until right at the end.
As I understand it a woman at Middlemore had had a rupture during a c-section & was very touch and go. Suddenly my OB was not so supportive!
Even less supportive when I mentioned that I didn't want to have Bubs in a hospital.... LOL
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Originally posted by toniellis toniellis wrote:



I remember when I was due with Erika, the OB was fine for me to have a VBA2Cs until right at the end.
As I understand it a woman at Middlemore had had a rupture during a c-section & was very touch and go. Suddenly my OB was not so supportive!
Even less supportive when I mentioned that I didn't want to have Bubs in a hospital.... LOL


Funny how that makes people's heads spin! i had a similar reaction when i started tossing around the phrase "home birth"

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Hey girls.

Anyone else out there in a similar situation to me?

I had an "emergency" (although no real rush) C section, mainly because of a long labour due to baby not sitting on my cervix and things going stop-start. I had syntocin and epidural and got to 9cm, then a C section as baby was getting stressed and still wasn't in the right position.

I'm all keen for a VBAC this time, but even though I laboured for a while last time its all a bit scary!

How did you find the process of having a VBAC? I kinda feel like this giving birth thing is all completely new and don't really know what to expect... Was your second labour faster? Did you labour but still end up having to have a C section?

Any experiences you want to share would be great!
Thanks.

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My birth story is in the birth story thread, not sure what page but I think i wrote about it either in Jan or Feb. I had an elective first time around so a bit different but might still be worth a read and I also started a thread in this section when I was pg for VBAC stories good and bad.

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My VBAC labour was shorter, the contraction pain while the same was also different, IYKWIM!! End result was a forceps delivery after 11 hrs, and about 12 stitches. Home the next day, basically everything was easier after the vbac compared to the cs.


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Originally posted by cuppatea cuppatea wrote:

My birth story is in the birth story thread, not sure what page but I think i wrote about it either in Jan or Feb. I had an elective first time around so a bit different but might still be worth a read and I also started a thread in this section when I was pg for VBAC stories good and bad.


Dont suppose you know what page its on? I'd like to read a few VBAC stories



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