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Originally posted by lisa85 lisa85 wrote:

I personally hated the thought of pushing out one baby let alone two lol! So I wanted one from the start. Esme was breech as well so that just sealed the deal.

I had an elective at 37 weeks.


hugs Renee that sounds awful:(

Lisa- if you only had one baby the first time you wouldnt necessarily get to choose..so lucky you had two:) i talked to my mw cause bub in great position atm and I'm sure Ob will say VBAC.. and everyone else wants that even DH ..she said ultimately my decision.. cause i already had one (so you will be ok there) if i never have labour again I'll be totally happy..I'm not one of those it's all wonderful and necessary and the way it's supposed to be kind of people.. but having said all that this time i have to think about recovery etc time as well!
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I was induced at 42 weeks. I was 1cm dilated and despite gels, syntocin and everything else they threw at me, I was still only 3cms after 30 hours. Turns out she was lateral and her head was twisted and facing upwards (what is that called) so was never going to make it out on her own. Luckily she was never in any distress. in hindsight my MW thinks she got stuck at 32 weeks when her head dropped down.
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I was an emergency c-section at 33w4d after 5.5 hours of labour and none of the drugs to stop labour working. Jade was breech anyway (which we knew from the word go) so I would've been going in for an elective, but even if she was head down and I had a VB with her, I would have needed a c-s with Amber because she was tangled in my ribs and had the cord wrapped around her neck....so I'm kind of glad that Jade was breech!! I had no probs with recovery.

I know I want to experience a vb as well, but I'm kind of glad I didn't get to experience a vb and a c-s on the same day
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I was induced at 38 weeks with PE (moderate but had gone from mild to moderate in 24 hours so were worried about fast progression). Jake was 3/5 engaged and my cervix was softening but still very high (OB said so, MW had a lot of trouble finding it to insert the gel)

After 23 hours I had dilated to 1cm and my waters broken (baby and I were fine to proceed at this point). Contractions came out of nowhere and I went into shock but after 3hours I was 4cm and was given an epi (oh the relief) and syntocinin (still not sure why as up until that point I was dilating fine). An hour later I was 5cm so progressing text book for first birth. Suddenly Jakes heart rate started to drop and another internal showed my cervix was swelling and I was back to 4cm and Jake was possibly brow presentation. While my mw was consulting with the OB Jakes heart started to drop even further (around 60bpm during each contraction which were coming every 2 mins) and the head OB stepped in and instructed a c-section had to be done.

Interestingly, they stopped the syntocinin immediately and Jakes heart rate went back to normal.

When he was finally delivered (after 42.5 hours) he had completely disengaged and I was instructed that there was no way he was ever coming out naturally... something to do with the position he was in.

I still wonder if that syntocinin had anything to do with it....


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I had a C-Section due to a severe case of pre-eclampsia, my boy was born at just 28 weeks he was only 1000grams he is a healthy little boy now at 5 months old! My operation only lasted about 30mins it was fantastic thanks to the awesome team at Auckland Hospital!
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First ceasarian because Rhyley was breeched and ECV didn;t work - he was a big baby and placenta was in the way.

Second cause 'Failure to progress' after waters been broken for almost 3 days, induced on drip for around7 or 8 hours and still only 2cm dilated - same as 24 hour before and Elodies head not even engaged - we made the decision to ceasar. I do not regret it and also got a tubel ligation at the same time (4th child and all not wanting more) Also the OB tidied my scar up - as I have had 3 in the same place. Recovery and night after was so much better than my first ceasar although that could do alot with Elodie feeding much better than what Rhyley did.

I really wanted my VBAC but it wasn't meant to be. I guess I have experienced both types and feel 'qualified' to speak both sides LOL (first 2 were VB and so different from each other as well)


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On a funny note:

when i was in the maternity home the lady across from me also had a emergency ceasarian (although i never felt mine was an emergency its classed as thaT)

when i was talking to her husband he said his wife wanted a natural birth after having a ceasar first time (VBAC) and I said I was the same (we got induced the same day) and hes like ' Why would you want a Natural - I just don't get it - rather it be pulled out than pushed out any day' LOL Men just don't get it!


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chickaboo- yeah my Dh didnt get it either till he saw the recovery and how i was after.. and now he is the one wanting me to go VBAC..
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Charlie was extended breech the entire pregnancy. My obstetrician scanned at 34.5 weeks and we had almost run out of fluid around Charlie so the chance of him turned was nil.

The next day I was booked in for a C/S and it all went perfectly except for the delay of another day because they didn't have room in their newborn intensive care unit, so they decided to keep him inside for another day and closely monitor in case anything went wrong. But I was in the right place.

Recovery was much easier than I expected it to be. Charlie and I spend a week in hospital with him in intensive care for five of those days because of his size (not too tiny at 5lb5oz). My scar was tiny as my obstetrician knew how big Charlie was going to be when born and only cut as much as needed instead of slitting me hip to hip. Yay for Dr Paul!

It couldn't have gone better and we'll be heading straight to Dr Paul for our next pregnancy.
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Hi
My son was born via em. c/s due to failure to progress during 2nd stage. I dilated fully and pushed for a few hours, but he never descended fully, he was 9lb 6oz, posterior and deflexed head.

I am now pregnant 18weeks with my second, I would like to try for a vbac, but nervous about having another crash section. I would love to hear from anyone who has succeed in having a vbac, seems to be a bit of a rare thing? Alot of c/s friends have ended up having 2nd & 3rd c/s, most electively but some emergency one’s too.

I really feel in a bind, go for an elective & know what you are getting or go for a vbac and maybe avoid a c/s entirely.
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Originally posted by TC747 TC747 wrote:

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My son was born via em. c/s due to failure to progress during 2nd stage. I dilated fully and pushed for a few hours, but he never descended fully, he was 9lb 6oz, posterior and deflexed head.

I am now pregnant 18weeks with my second, I would like to try for a vbac, but nervous about having another crash section. I would love to hear from anyone who has succeed in having a vbac, seems to be a bit of a rare thing? Alot of c/s friends have ended up having 2nd & 3rd c/s, most electively but some emergency one’s too.

I really feel in a bind, go for an elective & know what you are getting or go for a vbac and maybe avoid a c/s entirely.
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Your labour sounds very much like mine-my son was in the same position, but he also had the cord wrapped around his neck & went in to distress. I only got to 4cm dilated though, despite having lots of syntocin & 12 hours of labour.

I feel exactly the way you do-adamant I don't want another crash c-section. If that's going to happen I'd rather just have the elective. The MW says it's impossible to predict what will happen. She said it's pretty much a 50/50 chance of successful vbac vs emergency c-section. I don't like them odds, so at this stage I think it'll be elective for me.

From some of the posts I've read it seems that the best way of emsuring you have a vbac is to avoid any drugs during labour, & I am DEFINITELY not doing it without the epidural, so I just don't have much hope of a VBAC for me.

Anyway, just wnated to say I know how you feel. I am seeing a specialist on 15 feb to discuss my options.

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My first birth was about as ideal as you can get - 6 hour labour, gas only, no stitches and I was up and in the shower 1/2 hour later.

This time around things didn't go as smoothly - I was fully dilated within 3 hours of contractions becoming regular but sometime during that period DD turned posterior and got stuck. After a few hours of futile pushing I was taken to theater, they tried forceps but she just wasn't budging so emergency c-section it was.

I feel fine about it, there was no other way she was going to come out (she was 4.1kg, my first was 3.4kg) and I consider myself lucky really - 50 or 100 years one or both of us probably wouldn't have survived the birth. Before this birth the idea of a c-section terrified me but it was a relief in the end to have one after the way the labour went.

I've also found recovery so much better than I'd heard or was expecting, was never in much pain at all.
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Originally posted by Febgirl Febgirl wrote:

My first birth was about as ideal as you can get - 6 hour labour, gas only, no stitches and I was up and in the shower 1/2 hour later.

This time around things didn't go as smoothly - I was fully dilated within 3 hours of contractions becoming regular but sometime during that period DD turned posterior and got stuck. After a few hours of futile pushing I was taken to theater, they tried forceps but she just wasn't budging so emergency c-section it was.

Febgirl-having experienced both the vaginal birth & the C section-what do you think you would do if you had another baby? Would you try for a vbac or just have an elective to save yourself the stress of another possible emergency C section?

I feel fine about it, there was no other way she was going to come out (she was 4.1kg, my first was 3.4kg) and I consider myself lucky really - 50 or 100 years one or both of us probably wouldn't have survived the birth. Before this birth the idea of a c-section terrified me but it was a relief in the end to have one after the way the labour went.

I've also found recovery so much better than I'd heard or was expecting, was never in much pain at all.

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I had emergency c sect with my little one. I started to bleed but didn't realise how much blood til I was in the hospital. the midwife was a bit concerned so put on the monitor and did internal to see how far dilated I was (5 cm) and next thing I was having a strong contraction and Liam's heart rate dropped to 80. The midwife said 'You're baby is not happy' and immediately called in other people, kept monitoring and then called in the surgery team. Funnily enough my contractions pretty much stopped and I went into what I would call denial or survival mode, I just stared at the wall and stayed relatively calm!!
Turns out that Liam had a short umbilical cord, about half the length of normal so when I had contractions and he was desecending, it was pulling the placenta from the wall...there was no way he was being delivered vaginally. In fact it was lucky in a way that the c sect happened then as if we had waited to see how he kept responding the placenta would have clean come away and would have been a worse emergency.
Next time I am having an elective c sect, because it was so blimmin scary and there is no way to find out if it will happen again or not. Honestly could not care less about the whole birthing experience because we have bonded, recovery was fine, I was home on day 3 and I am just so happy to have our little miracle baby here. Midwife said she would not blame me for wanting an elective next time too so that was nice of her! I am so pleased she made the call when she did.



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TC747, I had a VBAC last year after an elective c/s for my first who was breech. I also had an epidural. My labour started at 3pm, I went to the hospital at 8pm (we are a fair distance from the hospital and I was concerned about being stuck in the car for a long time cos of sitting making the contractions feel worse) I got to the hospital and was only 3 stinking cms. By 11pm after trying everything else (except pethidine which I would never take) I asked for an epidural, took till midnight to get it, mw then checked again and I was only 4cm. By 2am the epi was wearing off, despite me being on the one that you can keep topping up and I felt pressure in my bum. Mw had a talk to my about synotycin and "bypassing the vagina" as she called it before checking me again. When she did check I was 10cm already and he was through the lip of the cervix and ready to be pushed out. They allowed me to push for just over 2 hours (epi completely wore off, but I didn't care, pushing is a lot different to the labour before it), then I started getting immense pain between contractions so OB was called into check me in case it was my scar, turns out it was the position he was in and was his shoulder hurting me, because of the time of me pushing and also the pain they offered me vontouse delivery to which I happily agreed, I would have agreed to anything I think. One push with vontouse and his head popped out and then I pushed the rest of him out.

So it is possible and it is possible with pain relief as well. I think if you do decide to labour then it's good to get a mw with VBAC experience, mine was awesome and made a huge difference to how it all went. Also a flexed presentation is something that happens more frequently in first babies so it probably wouldn't happen again.

My friend had an emergency first time around after getting to 10cm but baby not engaging, he was also 9lb 6oz and brow presentation. Second time around she decided to labour, however once again her baby had not descended, they did not wait for her to get to 10cm though and she called time on her labour attempt 6 hours in and at 6cm dilated because he showed no signs of getting in the right position. He turned out to also be brow presentation and they think maybe she has a wafty pelvis.

So in short you can try, if you think it is something you want and it may all go ok or you can decide to change your mind and ask for a c/s at any point. My mw said apart from the baby crowning you can pretty much change your mind as far into labour as you like, there is not really a point where they say nope too late no c/s for you.

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So in short you can try, if you think it is something you want and it may all go ok or you can decide to change your mind and ask for a c/s at any point. My mw said apart from the baby crowning you can pretty much change your mind as far into labour as you like, there is not really a point where they say nope too late no c/s for you.


That's interesting. I thought that if I went to the specialist apt & we decided I would try for a vbac & see how it went that I would pretty much HAVE to have the vbac. I didn't relaise I could still change my mind anytime. Are you sure? I was worried I wouldn't be ablt to get a c-section anymore, & that kind of freaks me out. I like having the option if it goes to poo. Hmm, may have to talk to MW about this some more. I wish I wasn't so confused...

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Originally posted by Odettenz Odettenz wrote:

Originally posted by cuppatea cuppatea wrote:




So in short you can try, if you think it is something you want and it may all go ok or you can decide to change your mind and ask for a c/s at any point. My mw said apart from the baby crowning you can pretty much change your mind as far into labour as you like, there is not really a point where they say nope too late no c/s for you.


That's interesting. I thought that if I went to the specialist apt & we decided I would try for a vbac & see how it went that I would pretty much HAVE to have the vbac. I didn't relaise I could still change my mind anytime. Are you sure? I was worried I wouldn't be ablt to get a c-section anymore, & that kind of freaks me out. I like having the option if it goes to poo. Hmm, may have to talk to MW about this some more. I wish I wasn't so confused...


Nah, you will be able to say nope this isn't working, I would prefer to have a c-section. You have an advantage in the fact that you have already had a c-section, though of course if you are 8-10cm (transition time, where many people ask for c-sections lol) they may recommend just holding out a little bit longer as labour often times goes quicker the second time around, and that last two cm may progress quickly and then you would be pushing lol
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Odettenz - No more babies for me but if there was another time, I would try for a VBAC but I would be paying for a private OB in case things didn't go well - we'd find the money somehow! I had to wait a long time before they would take me down to theater due to the hospital policy of making you push for a certain amount of time, my midwife told me afterwards that it was ridiculous and most OBs would have had me in theater 1.5 hours before I finally ended up there (and that's 1.5 hours without pain relief fully dilated!)

Edited - just reread and are you already under specialist care? In that case I would try for a VBAC - my problem was the time period between realising that this baby wasn't going to come out and finally being allowed to go to theater. I don't think you would have this problem.

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Originally posted by Febgirl Febgirl wrote:

Odettenz - No more babies for me but if there was another time, I would try for a VBAC but I would be paying for a private OB in case things didn't go well - we'd find the money somehow! I had to wait a long time before they would take me down to theater due to the hospital policy of making you push for a certain amount of time, my midwife told me afterwards that it was ridiculous and most OBs would have had me in theater 1.5 hours before I finally ended up there (and that's 1.5 hours without pain relief fully dilated!)

Edited - just reread and are you already under specialist care? In that case I would try for a VBAC - my problem was the time period between realising that this baby wasn't going to come out and finally being allowed to go to theater. I don't think you would have this problem.


Nope, not yet under specialist care, but will be seeing the specialist at Greenlane hospital mid-feb to discuss options, so I guess I should have some specialist care after that.

My MW pretty keen for me to have a go at the vbac (she says I am young & fit & healthy & should be absolutely fine), but I think she is also the very responsible type & if things weren't going well she would get me a c-section immediately. She is pretty down to earth. She has said she thinks I should at least try labour, but that she will be monitoring me regularly to make sure things are running smoothly. . Hmmm, lots to think about. I guess I have time at least to make up my mind.

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I had a csection due to DS being breech - it was going to be an elective (I hadn't found out the date yet) but he had other plans and I went into labour at 38 weeks, 1 day.

I have heard of alot of people feeling ripped off having a csection - perhaps it is because I don't have a vaginal birth to compare it to, but I thoroughly enjoyed my birth experience. The recovery is a little tough but nothing unmanageable. I can definitely say it hurt more having the MW feeling how dilated I was compared to any of the surgery or recovery!

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