just curious

Hiya Kazzle,

Not sure on any of those, but sorry to see you in here (in the nicest way possible)

Im pretty sure that it has to be a specialist to prescribe Clomphene, and it will only help if you are not ovulating, which you are. So it wouldnt help at all.

Have you been temping etc to see when you are ovulating? It may just be that you ovulate a little earlier or later than usual and just BDing around the wrong days.

Also I know there are a few herbal remedies that you/your partner can use to help things along a bit too. You know, help his swimmers, and 'aparantly' there are some that help make the mummies 'area' more inviting to the swimmers/embryo. Could be wrong...

As for there being a clinic in Lower Hutt, perhaps a google search would throw up something? Will have a check in a mo for you...

Sorry if you are already doing all of the above, I should really just check back thru the threads and see what you posted, but you know.... Im a lazy person by nature....

Anyway, sorry to see you need to be here, but nice at the same time. Best wishes.

Hi Kazzle

There's no harm is getting referred, but I think, based on experience, that since Rhiannon is only 14 months, you have been TTC for nine of them (as in, they may well argue that medically, it is recommended to give your body 12 months post-birth to get itself right again - I know there are lots of mums here that didn't wait that long, but it's a general rule of thumb), all is normal with tests etc, that they will more than likely send you away to wait a bit longer. You are probably better to wait until about 12 months TTC, although, having said that, age can be a concern to fertility, but you obviously conceived Rhiannon no problems? How long were you TTC with her?

Basically, when all looks good as far as male and female fertility, they recommend about 2-3 years TTC before taking action, and that's for primary infertility. Obviously though, age is a factor in that 2-3 year recommendation.

hmmmm okay, thanks guys, thats what i was trying to find out.

we only ttced for 2mths before falling pregnant with rhiannon, I am getting some ovulation sticks this month and trying thoses so yeah.

oh well onwards and upwards

Oh. Duh. Good points by Bumblefoot and Laurie ... I just assumed you were charting Kazzle! Are you? Definitely do that if you're not!

no i havent been charting as miss rhiannon has been waking at 5am, and then going back to sleep until 6.15am and i thought you had to have at least 3 hours sleep before taking your temp?

It's a really good idea to temp as you could be missing ovulation entirely! My neighbour TTCed for 4 years thinking that she was timing it for ovulation, but was doing it a week early! They finally got pregnant the very first month they tried to avoid a pregnancy (due to work commitments!). I think Emma did something similar, though not for so long ... missed ovulation while TTC with no temping. Just give it a go for a month or two, just until you know your cycle. That's all it needs.

Hi again Kazzle,

Another thing you could ask your doctor is if he/she can refer you for a scan. You'll have to pay for it of course, but they can have a little look inside and see if anything can be seen that may be preventing you from getting pregnant. In my case they were looking for cysts or anything not expelled after my miscarriage, but they can also check to see if everything was emptied out after your last birth, or if you possibly had an infection. If there is something, (like in my case where they found the cysts) they can begin to treat that.

But if not then you can be a little reassured that things are just taking their time. Sometimes it's just nice to know either way. My scan cost $175 - for me it was money well spent.

Also, where did your DH get his swimmers tested? If it was just at a normal lab, you can pay to get them tested by a fertility clinic. They are a lot more accurate and will be able to tell you if his situation is anything to worry about.

Usually, you'll be sent for these sort of tests before you get referred to a fertility specialist.

Anyway, good luck with the charting. I'd do what Busymum suggested and do your temps at 5am. You should still be able to see a pattern that early.

I found temping really useful coz it turned out I was o'ing 4 days later than I thought I was so we were missing the boat so to speak! I used to temp at 4am when Willie got up for work coz some mornings we BDed then so it kept my temps consistent. I'd just pop the thermometer in when I heard his alarm go off and scribble the temp on a paper next to the bed then go back to sleep.