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Oh that is scary, fingers crossed its just the wee embie settling in good and proper for the next 8 months! Hard not to worry though, I'm glad the nurse was able to reassure you, do you have a scan booked yet?
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That's what the nurse said too, so I really hope so!

Blood test on Thurs, and I guess depending on what that is like they'll tell me when I have a scan ...

I know it's a bit early but I couldn't resist when I saw someone else's one as it's just too cute!
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Hi ScaredyCat and Wispy, interesting you mention chemicals! I read this some where too (plus on day of transfer they say not to wear any deodorant or perfume), and I also try to avoid using too much, like unnecessary moisturizers and perfumes, but still it is so hard isn't it, everything seems to have chemical in it! Which particular products have you found relatively easy to give up or substitute with something more fertility friendly? Scaredycat can I ask what else your naturopath is recommending in thi regard? Thanks ladies :)
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I've been trying to avoid unnecessary chemicals for ages, after I read an article (I think it was in National Geographic) and can't remember the stats exactly but basically they measured the levels of different chemicals and compounds in someones blood and found a whole heap of potentially nasty ones that had entered their blood stream through the mattress that they slept on at night! They couldn't have gotten these from anywhere else, so it was absorbed through the mattress. I therefore figured that if they can get in your system that way, then they can def get in through products you're applying directly to your skin/hair/etc.

For deodorant I use a natural tea-tree one which is aluminium-free - I think the one I have is called plantation or something, and you can find it in Foodtown etc.
Perfume (if necessary) I have one of those natural perfume sticks that are almost pure essential oils and I got it from Lush.
Shampoo/Conditioner/Bodywash: Ecostore/Weleda/Giovanni - basically have a quick look at the ingredients & you want to avoid anything with sodium laureth sulphate (or anything that sounds similar) or parabens, and if it starts off with a whole list of names you don't recognise or don't seem to be derived from plants I'd avoid that too.
Moisturisers as above, although to be honest I've avoided doing that since the transfer, just in case. The same for other hair products like gel etc - my hair looks pretty bad, but I don't care if it's going to help my little embryo survive!
I've also not put on any makeup at all, but I'm told that mineral-based makeup might be the best?
There's a certification that you can look for on products which claim to be natural and environmentally friendly but I can't recall it just now ...
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Love the new ticker wispy willow, so cute!

Hi SunshineWife, I have been lurking in the IVF chat thread, big congratulations of your EC and fertilized eggs, sounds like you have a great number, sending them lots of growing and staying strong vibes.

Re the fertlity friendly products, here is a list my naturopath gave me to choose from:

Trilogy Skin care (cleansers and moisturizers etc)
Sukin Skin care (cleansers, moisturizers, deodorant shampoo & conditioner)
Coleur Caramel Natural Make up

She also recommends organic tampons and eco friendly cleaning products for washing clothes etc.

She recommends eating organic food whenever possible, especially meat, no pork what so ever, no dairy products, drinking at least 2 litres of filtered water daily, and if you have a drink bottle, needs to be glass and not plastic.

She advised we do a 4 week detox before TTCing again to get rid of the build up of chemicals already in our systems and now that we have done that, to avoid all pain killers (panadol, nurofen etc).

She has us both on a cocktail of pills and potions but its all done by analysing hair samples and blood tests, so not just thinking you need this, its done by actual tests which I found quite reassuring.

Sorry for the novel, and hope that helps!
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Just wanted to add my 2 cents lol!
The Sukin brand that Scaredy refers too is the one I use-it's great and not too expensive which is a plus. We also use eco products for cleaning, washing etc (bi-carb and vinegar works well)and I have used the naturacare organic tampons for a while now...
And just started using a crystal deodorant, with a spray of the Sukin deodorant on top(cos it smells nicer than nothing).
Sunshine I have heard someone else mention about the no perfumes/moisturisers etc on the day of transfer...no one at the clinic has ever said it to me before though but it makes sense to me!
Scaredy is your naturopath in papamoa by chance?
Wispy Willow I agree about the cute ticker!Hope your BT goes well tomorrow :)
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Hi JaneW, I totally agree the Sukin is the one that I have found good too and like you say reasonably priced which is a bonus!

My naturopath is in Auckland and she's great. She was recommended to me by someone on here (can't remember who now though), the only down side is being so far apart, I am yet to meet her, yet she knows all the most gory details about me and my partner and our stuggle with TTC!
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I've never been to a naturopath - what do they actually do?!
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Hey wispy willow, the main difference I find between a GP and a naturopath, is a GP will try and fix the problem, where as a naturopath will try and fix the cause of the problem, for example I have really low iron levels, the GP gave me some iron pills to take, the naturopath ran a series of blood tests to find out why my iron levels keeping dropping off and found it to be related to AF, I have heavy periods so she is trying to regulate that so I don't loose so much iron each month.

And anything she gives me to take ie, pre natal vitamin is all natural and not made from chemicals.

Hope that makes sense.

Congrats on the rising HCG levels!
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hmmm, thanks scaredy, that's very interesting! Do they usually have fertility experience or do you have to find someone who specialises in it?
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Interesting reading and hugest congrats Wispy!

My sister does ivf in Australia and gave me some tips that they recommend there. On the day of transfer no deodorant, perfume, makeup etc....be totally natural. They didn't tell me that here but I did it anyway. Since the FET I have used only deodorant (not a natural one), no perfume, Mac makeup still, redken shampoo and conditioner and natural body moisturizer...and natural skincare (dr hauschka) and soap, not shower gel with chemicals so a bit of a mix but I was definite about no perfume! I've read too much about how it goes into your skin. Now that im 13 weeks I've started using my perfumes again.

My sister also told me about no hot showers, so as much as I love them I've had lukewarm to warmish showers only, but now again bit more relaxed after 13 weeks. Another thing they recommend in Australia. And of course lots of water, but have been a bit slack lately!

Symptoms were definitely thirst....waking me up in the middle of the night even.

Hope that's helped!
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Hi wispy willow, I found one that specialises in fertilty related problems but I think she also deals with other sort of things too like allergies etc.

Congratulations Princess and thanks for your tips!
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Thanks Scaredy & Princess    
Princess - congrats on making it to the 14 week mark, I can't wait to get there!!!

Scaredy - are you in Auckland and can you recommend the naturopath you use?
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Hi Wispy willow, no I'm in the BOP but my naturopath is in Auckland and yes would recommend her to anyone, I have found her to be great and I'm really hoping NOT to have to do my next IVF cycle in June!

Her name is Nikki Chad from Natural Reproductive Care, her website is:

http://www.naturalreproductivecare.co.nz/01.00_Profile.html
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