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Topic: March & April 2008 Mummies
Posted By: LockieandLiam
Subject: March & April 2008 Mummies
Date Posted: 10 March 2008 at 3:55pm
Thought I would start up a thread and if Emma would be so kind as to make it sticky that would be fab.

Will get around to posting photos soon, just need to get my a into g and download some.

Well Liam was a right angel all day yesterday, but last night he decided he would wake at 10.15pm, 1.30am (ended up finally getting him settled about 4am) and then 6.15am and he has slept like a trooper today again. Not sure what the go was there maybe different surroundings, could have been a little cold or my mw thinks it could have been my milk coming in properly. So here's hoping for a slightly better night. Its a real pain getting in and out of bed after having a section and also have to wear a cathetar. Fingers crossed that can come out on Wednesday. I have to have a cystogram (where they run dye through my bladder to see if all is well) before they will remove it. DH was just wonderful last night he would get Liam out of bed for me, change his nappy and then put him back to bed. I feel really bad for him as he must be just as shattered as me.

Lockie has taken to his little brother really well and loves to give him kisses and cuddles. It looks so cute.

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Posted By: emmaohara
Date Posted: 11 March 2008 at 7:54am
Oh Dawn you poor thing, what with the cathetar and sore tummy, you are lucky dh is at home and being a star dad, when have you got him until?

So cute that Lockie is loving his brother, I'm so scared Ben will sit on this one or poke it! but time will tell....!

As for sleep Ben was a 7pm, 9pm 11pm 1pm 4pm feeder until he was months and months old, so don't despair you are doing well!, i am seriously praying for a sleeper this time. Is he waking Lockie up? Ben sleeps so lightly I'm worried any noise will wake him up espcially a crying baby..



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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 11 March 2008 at 8:33am
congrats mummy...how come you got to go home..i had to stay with my catheter etc for 4 days well 2 day catheter and 4 day stay!:( (i had to have it for a while due to blood in wee) and yeah my wee man did sleeping during the day and not much at night for a while too..i read your story just glad things are going ok for you and you have a great Dh to help..!

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Posted By: EmDee
Date Posted: 11 March 2008 at 11:53am
Ohhh a March & April mum thread exciting!

Dawn, its great that your DH is so supportive. Stu was really good when we had Ollie, he would always get up with me to do the nappy changes at night - though once he went back to work I tried to get to Ollie quickly so he wouldn't wake. 9 times out of 10 he would still get up though.

How was last night? I hope Liam was more settled for you. Geez it was hard enough in those early days after a normal birth, I can't imagine how you're coping after having a c-sect and still having a catheter in!

And that is so gorgeous of Lockie giving kisses and cuddles to Liam. I'm like you Emma and a little worried about how Ollie is going to react.

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Posted By: lucky3rdtime
Date Posted: 11 March 2008 at 1:37pm
Hi guys I just twigged i should be posting in the mums section rather than the pregnancy section now.   I guess old habits die hard.

I thought I would post in both Jan and Feb mums and March mums since Gabrielle was supposed to be a Feb baby but born on 1st March.

We are doing pretty well here, still just letting her wake whenever at the moment as she is less than 2 weeks old, but we'll see how it goes and if she gets into a routine herself or not in a few weeks, I haven't found the night feeds too bad, its just sort of automatic how you get up and feed and back to bed, she usually wakes about every 4 hours but sometimes 3 and sometimes 5-6, and she settles well, only grizzles occasionally, I guess i am lucky there, she is content to look at her black and white book in her cot before drifting off.

We are wrapping her, but she usually manages to get one arm free while sleeping. And I always give her a bit of cuddle time before putting her back into the cot, but she is always awake when I put her back to bed. At the night feeds I keep her in her room and keep it darkened and I sing to her when I cuddle her, I am trying to keep the day and night feeds different so she knows the difference or starts to learn the difference, but its all a bit of an experiment for a first timer anyway, so we'll see how it goes.

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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 11 March 2008 at 1:50pm
just wanted to say Tiff very busy but doing great with Rohann...:) sure she will get here eventually

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Posted By: lucky3rdtime
Date Posted: 11 March 2008 at 2:08pm
No probs Kawww, we all understand!! I am hoping to see her at the antenatal coffee group tomorrow maybe.

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Posted By: EmDee
Date Posted: 11 March 2008 at 2:38pm
Lucky - for a first timer it sounds like you are doing a great job! And by the way Gabrielle is adorable

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Posted By: EmDee
Date Posted: 11 March 2008 at 3:25pm
OK, cos I'm a geek and like lists ...

Look at all that pink!

31st January: Tishy (Trish) - Eimear (1:49pm, 2.2kg/5lb) & Aoife (1:50pm, 1.64kg/3lb 10oz)

1st March: mum2bx2 (Haley) - Annabelle Jade (12:15am, 2.64kg/5lb 13oz) & Lachlan Xavier (12:15am, 2.81kg/6lb 3oz)
1st March: lucky3rdtime - Gabrielle Catherine (10:50am, 3.02kg/6lb 10oz)
2nd March: Tiff - Rohann Grace (2:22pm, 4.14kg/9lb 2oz, 53cm)
3rd March: Pesky (Jane) - Olivia Grace (2:00pm, 3.57kg/7lb 14oz)
3rd March: Leeann (Leeann) - Chloe Anne (9:18pm, 3.40kg/7lb 8oz)
5th March: Lockie&Liam (Dawn) - Liam Harry (12:53am, 4.02kg/8lb 14oz, 57cm)
5th March: AmeliasmumHelen (Helen) - Amelia Dawn (11:15am, 4.10kg/9lb 1oz)
5th March: Nic01 (Nicki) - Isabella Aislyn (12:35pm, 3.885kg/8lb 9oz)
9th March: butterfly13 (Heather) - Andrew David (11.16pm, 3.68kg/8lb 1.5oz)
12th March: bizzy (Deborah) - Eden Loyis (4:18pm, 4.00/8lb 13oz)
17th March: emmaohara (Emma) - Sophia Elizabeth (1pm, 4.02/8lb 14oz,56cm)
??th March: nicci (Nicci) - Lincoln ()
24th March: mummydee (Daphne) - Lilia Eva Anne (9.20am, 4.13kg/9lb 2oz, 51cm)
26th March: daizy (Christy) - Maddison Grace (8.25am, 4.25kg/9lb 6oz, 48cm)
26th March: jodie (Jodie) - Hannah (10.54pm, 3.35kg/7lb 6oz)
29th March: anjiebaby (Anj) - Billie James LeRoy (11.37pm, 4.07kg/8lb 15.5oz
31st March: kiwiwonder (Margo) - Katerina Joan (2.28am, 3.015kg/6lb 10oz)
31st March: delnic2005 (Katrina) - Alexander John Tony (8.57pm, 3.31kg/7lb 4oz, 52.5cm)

2nd April: solgirl (Gaylene) – Paige Elizabeth (3.91kg/8lb 10oz)
3rd April: zacksmum (Shar) - Zack (5.08am, 3.97kg/8lb 12oz)
7th April: zakjac (Kylie) - Mihlan Carys ()
11th April: marg1 (Marg) - Holly Maryrose Steiner()
12th April: nonny () - Sasha ()
25th April: kaiz231 (Kylie) - Jackson (4.17kg/9lb 3oz)


Apologies if I've missed anyone, feel free to add yourself in (or let me know and I will if you like)

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Posted By: tishy
Date Posted: 11 March 2008 at 3:48pm
Like Lucky3rdtime, I'm going to post in both the Jan/Feb thread and this one at my 40week due date was 3rd march

The girls are doing great Eimear is now 3.59kgs and Aoife is 2.71kgs.

For our night time feeds, DH goes to bed at 9pm and sleeps through to the 4am feed. Mum helps me with the 12am feed.
Mum leaves on Sunday, after a 5week stay, and DHs parents arrive for 10 days. Not sure what what it'll work once they're all gone.

We're feeding both girls together. Aoife normally wakes after about 3 - 3.5hours and we wake Eimear as well. We sometimes get 4hours at night time, a bit longer sometimes if we wrap them.

I'm still using Nipple shields as the girls had problems latching at the start. I've had some attempts without the shields but finding the time and patience to get them off completely is proving to be difficult
There's a Lactation consultant at Plunket so I think I might go there on Monday morning so I can get some help from her. Plus it'll allocate time to 'nipple shield removal'

We had our last midwife app today, have a 6 week checkup at the hospital for the girls tomorrow and have the immunisations on Thursday.



Posted By: lucky3rdtime
Date Posted: 11 March 2008 at 4:54pm
doubledee can you add to Gabrielle that she was born at 10.50am and weighed in at 3020g or 6lb 10oz.

Fingers crossed she is asleep, haven't heard any grizzling for about 15mins, just lately she doesn't settle so well in the afternoon, still goes down eventually, but sometimes I don't think she sleeps between one feed and another in the afternoon, but is mostly quiet through it so I just leave her in her cot until she kicks up.

Tishy I can't imagine how much more difficult it must be with twins, when i was first pregnant i thought it might be nice to have twins, but now I'm happy with just the one

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Posted By: pesky
Date Posted: 12 March 2008 at 12:57am
Hi!
So great that everyone's doing well.

Dawn Lockie sounds super cute.

Ummm.. contraception!? Do hormines lke estrogen and progestrerone pass through the breast milk? What did you guys use?

Jane

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Posted By: tishy
Date Posted: 12 March 2008 at 2:37am
My midwife told me that I can either use the mini pill, IUD or condoms.
I was on the mini pill before but I'm not sure how likely it is I'll remember to take the pill at the right time every day now

We're thinking about going for the IUD, however it seems so final and eliminates the risk of any 'oopsies' I'm not sure if that's a good thing or bad thing. LOL!

She also said it's recommended to wait 2 years for your body to recover after a c-section. Has anyone else been told that?

2 years is probably the time it'll take for me to recover from 2 newborns anyway


Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 12 March 2008 at 8:27am
tishy i got told that but everyone else tells me they didnt and arent waiting...we are starting trying next jan... but will see how i feel i can see how it takes 2 years to recover!!:)

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Posted By: LockieandLiam
Date Posted: 12 March 2008 at 11:30am

7 hours old


First bath


Isn't love grand


The men in my life


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Posted By: LockieandLiam
Date Posted: 12 March 2008 at 11:31am
Oops photos rather large and I did resize them for message board too!!! I wonder what is going on there.

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Posted By: susieq
Date Posted: 12 March 2008 at 11:41am
Liam looks just beautiful Mummy2one


Posted By: tishy
Date Posted: 12 March 2008 at 11:43am
He's gorgeous! Love the last photo!


Posted By: LockieandLiam
Date Posted: 12 March 2008 at 11:50am
Right have read through all the posts so think I have caught up on all the going ons.

Rachel - Gabrielle is adorable, is that blonde locks I can see.

Lockie hasn't woken touch wood during the night yet, I was so scared of that happening. Lockie is still pretty excited about the whole thing of having a baby in the house and all a bit much for him. Yesterday DH called into our neighbours to finally tell them that Liam had arrived and they have two girls (who Lockie plays up to big time anyway), he was so excited to show them his little brother it was very cute. We are finding though that we wants to be around us constantly and the whole nap time, bedtime takes alot longer. It's like he needs the reassurance. It took him until 8.30pm to go to sleep last night, with DH going in and saying good night to him again and then he was asking for me, hence I couldn't go as I was feeding Liam at the time. It must be so much for a toddler to take in. So girls expect some behavourial changes I would say.

Can't remember what Liam did on Monday night but last night it was even better. He woke at 7pm, down finally by 9pm (after a couple of poo episodes), woke at 1am (he wanted to celebrate his 1 week birthday), down by 2pm and woke just before 6am, down again by 6.45am and then went back to sleep until 9am. Finally got him to sleep at 11am. He gets unsettled if he has a funny tummy and can't poo, and you know he wants to but there doesn't seem to be anything you can do about it. Might ask mw if she can recommend anything.

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Posted By: lucky3rdtime
Date Posted: 12 March 2008 at 3:09pm
Cool photos mummy2one, yeah Gabrielle has sort of light brown hair, not much of it though, I think she gets it from my Dad as both me and DH have dark brown hair.

I posted in the Jan and Feb thread that yesterday Gabs set off her monitor alarm, we were a bit worried as it had happened once before so I spoke to the mw last night, she said not to worry unless she has gone blue and that it will be sleep apnoea which is normal in infants and they grow out of it. She made me feel better about it, cos we were pretty stressed out, it happened a few more times during the same sleep, so we just checked her everytime. The alarm would always turn off before we got to her room which means she moved and she was always her usual pink self, so we will just keep an eye on her.

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Posted By: Bombshell
Date Posted: 13 March 2008 at 9:20am
oooh lurker in (being a march mummy last year!) - sooo cute!!!!! these bubbas are gorgeous!!!!
lurker out...


Posted By: emmaohara
Date Posted: 13 March 2008 at 1:08pm
Lucky3rdtime- Bens sleep monitor went of like that for the first few months, most times it would start as soon as we got in the room but once it kept going and ben was blue around the mouth, we literally threw him on the bed (as gently as we could!)and he startled awake and breathed, he was 10 weeks old. Apparently this is quite normal and he would probably have started breathing again on his own HOWEVER this is why I love our angelcare monitor and he only stopped using it at 18 mths!

Th wonders of technology aye

Dawn - Hows Liam doing today?

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Posted By: lucky3rdtime
Date Posted: 13 March 2008 at 2:34pm
Thanks Emmaohara, yeah I actually wonder sometimes if she would be okay if the monitor didn't startle her, but I'm guessing she would, but I'm glad we have it. If we didn't have it I probably wouldn't know about her sleep apnoea and maybe be less paranoid, but then I would probably feel the need to check on her all the time.

She has been in her own cot in her room since we brought her back from hospital, so for peace of mind we opted for the monitor for movement, kind of glad we did, even if it is a bit frustrating and worrying to get woken in the middle of the night by it. I would rather be woken a million times and her be okay than the other way around though.

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Posted By: tishy
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 2:23am
We have an aponea monitor on loan from Neonatal for Aoife as she was so small. It scared the bejaysus out of us so many times at the start.
Like first time parents don't have enough to worry about

We had the 6 week immunistations today, Aoife was only a bit grizzly but Eimear needed some pamol to be settled. SHe just puked down my top about 30 mins ago too. Hopefully that's the end of it.

Thankfully we've plenty of EBM in the fridge as both girls were too sleepy this afternoon to feed off me.


Posted By: pesky
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 7:55am
Oh Dawn well done and congratulations, love the photos specially the one of your men, too cute.

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Posted By: Nic01
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 1:38pm
Just popping in quickly to say hi to the other March Mums! Thanks for doing that list - I've been trying to figure out what Isabella's weight was in pounds & ounces for ages because everyone keeps asking! 8lb 9oz sounds quite big even though she was only 400gms bigger than Matt. We are doing well - pretty busy with a toddler as well, especially as he's not sleeping well hence getting very overtired & stroppy by the end of the day. He's good most of the time with Isabella & seems to be adjusting ok to having her around.

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Posted By: EmDee
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 6:01pm
You're welcome Nic I've found that 1 thing google is good for! It's funny eh how people want pounds and ounces even these days.

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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 6:26pm
there's a good site that you can convert from..

http://www.webmath.com/k8metric.html

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Posted By: LockieandLiam
Date Posted: 15 March 2008 at 12:48pm
Liam is doing really well, he is slightly windy and has a little trouble bringing it up and takes him ages to settle, other times he is good as gold and I can have him feed and down within 45mins - 1 hour. We got a 5 hours stretch from him last night 7pm till midnight, down within 1/2 hour, he woke again at 3am and it took until 5am to settle him (flamin wind), and then I woke him at 9am. Took until 11am to settle him back down (I tell you what he really likes to poo at the wrong time). So here's hoping he has another good sleep as both the boys are down now so I might even have a little nap myself.

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Posted By: Nic01
Date Posted: 15 March 2008 at 12:55pm
Wind is a pain isn't it?? Matthew was never a windy baby so I didn't have to really worry about it, but Bella gets quite distressed at times if she's not winded properly. We had a good night last night too - Bella went from 9 to 2 & then from about 2:45 to 6:25 & Matthew actually slept through until 6:30 too. It's amazing what a difference getting a decent block of sleep makes! Hope you manage to get a bit of a nap now Mummy2One.

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Posted By: LockieandLiam
Date Posted: 15 March 2008 at 1:17pm
kawwww - I had to have my cathetar in for 5-7 days due to them having to stitch my bladder back together. I'm not too sure why they let me out but they did. Maybe they thought it was a long time to spend in hospital, and they knew I was itching to get up to my other boy. They did try delaying it as much as they could. I think it comes in handy when your mw knows the right people.

Anyway finally got cathetar out on Thursday after they x-rayed my bladder and putting dye through it to see if it was leaking anyway. All was fine. Then I had to go over to the gyno ward and I had to pee until there was only a 100ml residual amount of urine left in my bladder (and then it had to be repeated 3 times). So probably got there about 2.30pm and we were there until 10pm. Talk about frustrating, it didn't help that the nurse that was on was "old school" and didn't even crack a smile, no bedside manner at all. I so lost it and had a bit of a meltdown as it was mentioned that I might have to spent the night in hospital as they wouldn't discharge me until I had done so. I couldn't bear the thought of having to spend another night in hospital and being away from Lockie again. As it is I feel guilty for not being able to play with him and give him my full attention, I didn't need another night in hospital on top of that. DH was really good, I so love that man so much.

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Posted By: LockieandLiam
Date Posted: 15 March 2008 at 1:20pm
Oh yeah when I was at the hospital I also had to have an ultrasound down on my scar from c-section as there is a lump on the right hand side. Thank goodness its only bruising under the skin so they said and it may break down by itself over time (could take awhile) or it may start to leak fluid from the wound.

Okay think I have updated you all on what has been happening over the last couple of days, hopefully there will be more of you joining us here soon. Bring on those March bubbies.

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Posted By: lucky3rdtime
Date Posted: 16 March 2008 at 6:38pm
oh mummy2one, sounds like you've had a bit of a hellish time of it, hoping it gets better for you and you have no other issues.

Gabs is having a good day today, sometimes its weird like our lives are just the same as they were before she was here and its almost like she isn't here at all, but I'm so glad she is.

Life is a bit strange for me at the moment though, cos i was so concentrating on her birth etc that all our plans had kind of stopped around the time she was due, so we don't have any plans to do anything at the moment, which is kind of weird, but necessary I guess until we get sorted a little. I am still nervous about taking her out and about and don't really like to unless its necessary cos I don't like interrupting her sleep etc, but I guess we will get used to having her around soon and it will get easier.

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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 16 March 2008 at 7:30pm
yes def pays to know the right people i would be the same if i had another child... i was just freaking out about doing numbers 2's with it in..lol..and losing the ability to go to the loo by myself..lol:)!

the doc at hospital on friday(6 week check) told me lumps were normal..is that not right?:( ! lucky i was just like you..and just built up slowly..was terrified going by myself to hospital as it wasntduring his nap time..but i just topped him up and then drove there and he slept through it all(thank goodness we got him used to sleeping through noise) and everytime i go out i feel better..still do it when he is mostly asleep...or put him in pram after a feed for my walk... i never thought i'd get there but i am slowly....i didnt want to take him out much till 4-6 weeks anyway..going to TIff's on Thursday so that will be my first time feeding somewhere elese. ...scary!



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Posted By: lucky3rdtime
Date Posted: 16 March 2008 at 8:15pm
Yeah I am guessing that everything will take awhile to get used to, I remember changing her for the first time and worrying about hurting her little arms, getting them into the singlet, LOL!! Now that isn't an issue anymore.

Good luck with feeding somewhere else Kawww, at least its in a baby friendly environment, say hi to tiff for me, I hope feeding is going better for her.

I am lucky in a way, with formula feeding, it doesn't bother me feeding elsewhere, the only thing that worries me is getting hot water to heat up the bottle, but I think most cafes would oblige, not that I have ventured out that far yet.

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Posted By: Nic01
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 12:25pm
We ventured out properly for the first time on Saturday - timed it so it was just after Bella's feed & she slept beautifully in the pram while we were out at the shopping mall. So nice to get out & about. She did start getting grizzly for a feed near the end though so I went back to the car & fed her there - not quite ready for feeding in public just yet!! I'm finding it quite hard having 2 little ones. I feel like I'm just sitting on the couch feeding Bella so much, that I'm neglecting Matt a bit. I think he's finding it hard too because he keeps playing up. I'm trying to just spend some quality time with him as well, but everytime I sit down & start playing with him, Bella seems to wake up!! It's not so bad at the moment as DH is still home, but I don't know how I'm going to cope on my own when he goes back to work. Still I guess you just have to get on with it & I'm sure I'll find a way to make it work.

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Posted By: lucky3rdtime
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 2:34pm
Yeah that must be hard Nic, can Matt be a big boy helper for mum when you feed Isabella,like maybe get you a bib or something then he might feel more included, or even if possible to read a story to him while feeding maybe?

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Posted By: LockieandLiam
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 3:55pm
I hear what you are saying Nic, it's great that DH is home at the moment but I so don't know how I will do it when he isn't. My DH travels a bit with his job too so not looking forward to nighttime. I think it is totally normal behaviour you are experiencing from Matt, he's used to having your undivided attention and now there is someone else around "it's like hey what about me". Lockie has adjusted pretty well but in saying that we have been getting some right tantrums and mum and dad both have to say goodnight to him, and he either doesn't listen or just refuses to do what we say. Very frustrating indeed, but hopefully it want go on for too long.

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Posted By: EmDee
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 7:55pm
Just bringing the list forward

BIRTHS
31st January: Tishy (Trish) - Eimear (1:49pm, 2.2kg/5lb) & Aoife (1:50pm, 1.64kg/3lb 10oz)

1st March: mum2bx2 (Haley) - Annabelle Jade (12:15am, 2.64kg/5lb 13oz) & Lachlan Xavier (12:15am, 2.81kg/6lb 3oz)
1st March: lucky3rdtime - Gabrielle Catherine (10:50am, 3.02kg/6lb 10oz)
2nd March: Tiff - Rohann Grace (2:22pm, 4.14kg/9lb 2oz, 53cm)
3rd March: Pesky (Jane) - Olivia Grace (2:00pm, 3.57kg/7lb 14oz)
3rd March: Leeann (Leeann) - Chloe Anne (9:18pm, 3.40kg/7lb 8oz)
5th March: mummy2one (Dawn) - Liam Harry (12:53am, 4.02kg/8lb 14oz, 57cm)
5th March: Nic01 (Nicki) - Isabella Aislyn (12:35pm, 3.885kg/8lb 9oz)
9th March: butterfly13 (Heather) - Andrew David (11.16pm, 3.68kg/8lb 1.5oz)
12th March: bizzy (Deborah) - Eden Loyis (4:18pm, 4.00/8lb 13oz)
17th March: emmaohara (Emma) - Sophia Elizabeth (1pm, 4.02/8lb 14oz)


DUE DATES
15th: jodie (Jodie) - girl
16th: anjiebaby (Anj) - surprise
18th: solgirl (Gaylene) – girl
19th: doubledee (Daphne) - girl
20th: zacksmum (Shar) - boy
23rd: daizy (Christy) - girl
24th: kiwiwonder (Margo) - surprise
28th: delnic2005 (Katrina) - boy
30th: mum2boftwinboys (Claire) - boy & boy

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Posted By: emmaohara
Date Posted: 21 March 2008 at 2:56pm
Introducing Sophia..
the best day sleeper ever... but awake nightly

I Need help ladies, how do I turn her body clock all the way round?, any suggestions? I don't do crying,I'm too soft!! oh and she only falls asleep when I feed her...oh dear! Yes I need help!!!



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Posted By: LockieandLiam
Date Posted: 21 March 2008 at 5:04pm
I hear what you are saying about falling asleep while feeding Emma, Liam is a bit like that, although there has been a couple of times during the day that I have left him to cry and he has settled. I hate doing it too but I sometimes think it is the only way. My mw would say "he's too young for you to let him CIO". All I can say is that it has worked the couple of times I have done it - he has been fed, clean nappy, burped, so nothing else can be wrong with him. I have no suggestions unfortunately Emma as I sometimes wonder if my boy has got his night and day muddled up as well, as I have to wake him during the day usually and he seems to love being up for 2 hours when he wakes during the night (which yes it does my head in big time.

We had a pretty crap night last night so certainly sleep deprived today.

What does Ben think of his little sister? By the way she is so cute and so much hair too!!!

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Posted By: LockieandLiam
Date Posted: 21 March 2008 at 5:06pm
Oh yeah dosn't help either that Liam sometimes has trouble bringing up his wind, and then he gets the hiccups. I just keep telling myself its not forever and they can't tell you what is wrong.

Any suggestions for wind?

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Posted By: susieq
Date Posted: 21 March 2008 at 9:24pm
Sophia looks gorgeous Emma


Posted By: emmaohara
Date Posted: 22 March 2008 at 10:29am
Oh Dawn, know how you feel today!

We had an ok night she woke up coutless times but I just fed her and apart from an hour at 4am she did go back to sleep, problem is she is ultra sleepy during the day and its impossible to wake her....god its hard aye, especially when our bodies are yelling for a rest!

We just all went to pak n save, family of 4, and it was a huge mistake, I held it together in there but had to drop ben of at my mums on the way home and a have huge cry, she was like oh I was wondering when the 3 days blues would kick in, feel like a failure, not nice although I know it will pass, told dh to go surfing and leave me and sophia to have a good cry on the couch

Sorry for being so down ladies, we are so lucky really , its just our hormones and lack of sleep aye!

As for wind dawn, ben was chronic with it, i found putting him in a deep warm bath helped and rubbing his tummy whilst cycling his legs always brought something out..or good old bounching on the knee for 10 minutes... but that didn't always work.. Good luck

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Posted By: EmDee
Date Posted: 22 March 2008 at 12:56pm
Emma - hope you are feeling ok and having a bit of time out from the boys helps

Dawn - Sorry no advice on wind, Ollie was (and still is!) a good burper. Hope this bub is too.

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Posted By: LockieandLiam
Date Posted: 22 March 2008 at 3:04pm
We had a better night last night, woke to feed him at 8pm and he was back in bed by 9.15pm after a bath. Then he woke at 12.45am and it took me 2 hours to get him back down again (flamin wind again, but once he bought it up he fell asleep on my lap). Nice and peaceful. He then woke at 5.30am to which he only fed for 1/2 hour and back down again and awake by 7.45am. Got him down at 10.15am but only for 20 mins when he woke crying and then it took me till 12pm to get him down, but he has been asleep since then (tried the cooled boiled water trick, and it seemed to work). If Liam doesn't wake then 3.30pm I will be waking him (and also Lockie). Sent DH down to pick up Lockie's birthday cake for his party tomorrow. Oh yip you're game I hear you saying!!! Got my BIL's 40th tonight but we are only going for an hour or so, that will be enough and the nerves will start kicking in.

Emma - big big big , its all normal, you'll be fine, its called exhaustion and lack of sleep. Perfectly normal. I must say I have had my moments in the middle of the time when I just wish I would wake up and its all a dream. But when I look down at him I wouldn't be without him for a second and I just keep reminding myself its not forever. I think what makes it harder is that we are at the stage of getting your life back together as our wee ones are now little people and at such a cool age, and when you go back to the baby stage they can't do anything for themselves and they are solely dependent on us.

On a really cute note I was trying to burp Liam this morning and I had him over my knee and Lockie came along with his cars and trucks and placed them on Liam's back so he could play with them. It was so adorable, he loves his little brother to bits.

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Posted By: Tiff
Date Posted: 22 March 2008 at 7:31pm
Well I've finally made it back onto the computer, 3 weeks after Rohann's birth!
Congratulations to all you March Mummies!!!!
A lot of you won't know me as I was previously posting on the due Feb thread until my little girl decided to be 8 days over!! But my name is Tiffany and I recently had my wee girl (well not that wee at 9lb 2oz) Rohann. The birth went very well, apart from having to transfer to Chch Womans in an ambulance while pushing (something I DON'T reccommend) due to meconium in my waters (but she was never distressed at any stage). But I was still able to have a natural delivery as planned (just an episiostmy) even with 3 hours of pushing.
Things have been pretty good at home, have just had a feeding issue which is all sorted now. My DH has been wonderful, loving being a Daddy (very hands on) and really not looking forward to going back to work after easter. She is a great night sleeper and is starting to improve during the day, especially since we've implamented a bit of a routine. But she seems very good, were able to take her to her first birthday party at 1 week old!
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 22 March 2008 at 7:52pm
*lurking* wind...gripe water:) oh adn when Ethan got to 4 weeks it was heaps better..cause they dont recommend cooled boiled water for bf bubs...

oh and hey tiff..we will miss you:( (are you coming to meetup on 29th?) *lurker out*

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Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 23 March 2008 at 11:46am

*another lurker replaces last lurker*

Wow March babies!  .... Thats means I should feel like an "old hand" by now (but I dont)

We used gripe water when Isabelle was having trouble with wind ....now if we cant get any up by normal methods it usually comes up after having her flat to change her ... then lifting her up over my shoulder.

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Posted By: LockieandLiam
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 10:46am
Hi there Tiff and welcome to the March bubbas.

Sounds like gripe water seems to do the trick. I had this recommended to me by a friend as well, so looks like I should invest in some. He is usually pretty good but some seems to get stuck occasionally, and when that happens it takes forever to get him down and ends in an overtired bubba. When he goes down though he sleeps like a legend.

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Posted By: Tiff
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 12:12pm
Hope everyone has had a good easter, ours has been pretty quiet with not too many visiors which is nice. DH went to help a friend build a deck on Friday so that was the first time Rohann and I had been left to our own devices (for longer than half an hour that is) so it was a nice warm up to Tuesday when DH finally goes back to work. She seems to be quite a good cruisy baby at this stage (touch wood!!) as yesterday we went to a friends for lunch, gave her a feed when we got there, she had a 'play' on her mat for a while then went down to sleep in her carrycot in the next room no worries and slept for an hour and half, even with a 3 year old racing around!! But the best thing was last night we put her down at 8.30 and she didn't wake up until 3.30!!!! I couldn't believe it, I have to say though it did give me quite a fright as I woke before her and saw the time and was about to jump out of bed to check her when I heard a squeak...whew....the relief! And she has given us her first smiles!!! They are definately smiles too not just gas as the are more controlled and she keeps doing them when I do the same things to her. It's just too cute, especially as she has her dad's dimples!!


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Posted By: Tiff
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 12:14pm
I forgot to say, Rohann is forever getting the hiccoughs though they don't seem to bother her much (usually after she has burped) though in saying that she would often get them several times a day when she was in my tum

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Posted By: LockieandLiam
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 3:34pm
Liam is the same with hiccups Tiff although he won't go to sleep if he has them so I have to sometimes give him another drinkie if he hasn't got rid of them by then. I think its quite a common thing in babies, and Liam was the same when inside me.

It's amazing what babies can sleep through Liam is getting used to having a 2 year old running around screaming and carrying on, so hopefully he want be a light sleeper.

That's a great night sleep from Rohann, the most we have got is 6 hours but that hasn't happened for a while. We seem to get getting 3-4 hours at night and I have to wake him 3 1/2 hourly during the day if he hasn't woken before then.

Emma how are things going?

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Posted By: MissCandice
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 8:50pm
Lurker in -

Tiff when i was pregnant Kylah got hiccups all the time,and when she was born she got hem too, and she still does, everytime she laughs she will get hiccups, they dont bother her tho

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Posted By: popcorn
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 9:04pm
Lurker in!

I have heard Gripe water is great but used to make T spew!
I found Infacol great, but had to use it with each feed, takes awhile to get it in their systems but it solved all our problems which sound very similar to yours. Also have heard the weleda colic powder is good but havent tried it myself

good luck ladies and enjoy!


Posted By: tishy
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 3:53am
We're having the same wind problems here Dawn. This is the reason I haven't been online much this week.

Eimear is impossible to wind and, as a result, impossible to settle. We find she's more of a farter than a burper though and the feed after the difficult one we get a musical coming out her bum by lying her on our lap or on the floor and rubbing her back.

Even when we do settle her without a successful wind, if we put her flat in the cot she'll wake up after 10 minutes crying. She's spending alot of time in her rocker this week.

She's turning into a little miss chubby as a result. She looks like she's hungry sometimes when she's just windy.
It's a shame it's not Aoife as she's the one the doctors want us to fatten up more!

We have gripewater and the colic powder. Gripewater seems to be helping, haven't used the colic powder yet.


Posted By: popcorn
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 7:57am
me again sorry!

Just remembered that when i rang plunket about wind when T was little they suggested slightly raising top of the bed by putting a phone book or something under the mattress. That did help! Also cycling legs, holding them and moving their hips around in circles

It does get better as they grow! Just stick to a very plain diet that seemed to make a difference too


Posted By: tishy
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 11:18am
Yeah I'm trying to cut out dairy and caffeine which is hard at Easter


Posted By: Zacksmum
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 11:40am
Just have a little look at what has been happening in the world of the newborns!
Great to see everyone is doing great.
Cant waitt ill mine finally comes and i can join in too.
Hope you feel better soon Emma, sending you big hugs.



Also hope the babies with wind problems start settling down for you all as well.

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Posted By: LockieandLiam
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 4:36pm
I wondered where you got to Tishy. This wind business is nasty stuff but it can't be that pleasant for them either.

I think my little man plays on it a wee bit and he knows when I put him in his bassinette as that is when he starts crying again and then I pick him up and he stops. I don't know I still haven't figured this one out.

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Posted By: rosewood
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 4:40pm
When I was bf DD I was told to steer clear of green veges & onions as these can all cause excess gas to the bf baby. (havent read back at all the posts so sorry if this has already been suggested.)

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Posted By: lucky3rdtime
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 4:41pm
Hiya, haven't posted for awhile. Gabrielle has probs with wind too, its so frustrating when you can hear it bubbling inside her and it won't come out, she also tends to get the hiccups when I change her.

I don't have a magic solution to wind, but luckily she can settle without me having to get all her wind out, we raised the top of the cot with a couple of books so maybe that helps. I tried a mixture called wellington hospital mixture, but I think it made her worse to the point one night where she just wouldn't settle in her cot at all, so I let her sleep on me on the couch until she woke up for her next feed, we stopped using it after that and she is more settled now.

Just when things were getting better I now have a cold and I'm desperately trying to not give it to Gabrielle.

We haven't had any more monitor alarms go off since we removed one of the sensors, as there were two and we figured as she is so small it wasn't registering her movements on both so removed one sensor and no probs since, so hopefully she doesn't have sleep apnoea issues after all, I feel so stupid now.

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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 5:00pm
thats weird..you would think removing one would make the problem worse? our problem went away when we moved the sensor as well though?

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Posted By: lucky3rdtime
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 5:13pm
I just think that cos the sensors are so big and she is so small her body couldn't be properly over both of the sensors. To be honest I am just relieved more than anything.

We went in one day after it had gone off several times and I watched her and could see her breathing as the alarm went off so figured it wasn't working properly.

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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 5:22pm
:) thats good

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Posted By: tishy
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 11:25pm
I my new friend the Osteopath. We had a visit to one this evening and Eimears wind problems seem to be on the mend thankfully! yayy.
We've to go back for some more appointments for both girls but she was such a pleasure to wind this evening. She practically burped as I was taking her off the boob! [:) ]
Hopefully it'll keep this way. The Osteo said the wind problems may get worse before better again but I'm going keep positive

Also she suggested that I keep away from foods that DH is sensitive to. He gets a bloated tummy with too much bread while I love my bread so I'm going to give that a try.
It made obvious sense once she suggested it.

Both girls have been on growth spurts this week so I've been pretty much stuck on the couch since Friday.



Posted By: emmaohara
Date Posted: 26 March 2008 at 8:19am
Hey tishy, Ben had chronic wind problems and the oesteo was amazing for him, he had magic fingers i begged him to come home with us!!

I'm still feeling a bit 'over whelmed' and hormonal saw stand in mw who assured me this was normal especially as ben is sick and being very drama filled, coughing and sneezing all over sophia, now dh and my mum are also sick so its not much fun here at the moment!!!

On the plus side Sophia is a dream, last night she crashed at 8.30 till 11.30 , quick 30 min feed then down till 3.30!! i couldn't believe the clock, we didn't get over 3 hours sleep with ben until he was months old!! so hopefully shes a cruisey one! wind makes such a difference aye

Right we are venturing out to play group today, not sure its a good idea but i have to get ben out or i'll go mad with his whining!, wish me luck guys!

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Posted By: LockieandLiam
Date Posted: 26 March 2008 at 11:55am
Well I can relate to the hormonal thing Emma and I'll add sleep deprived also. Have had a pretty rough couple of days (can deal with during the day, but night time sucks). Liam is such a noisey sleeper and he is obviously in some pain as you can hear him moving around and grunting and groaning and then he crys out but he isn't awake. I go to get him up but he is asleep so no point in feeding him then. Just had mw here, had a chat about everything, she's not too sure what his problem is but she said we will get to the bottom of it.

How did playgroup go Emma? How did you manage 2 kids at a time? That's the thing with having a c-section you can't just get out and about and back into the swing of things you have to take the time to heal. I think the longer you are out of action the more daunting it seems to be able to think about how you are going to cope by yourself.

That's it from me sorry if it sounds depressing, I just wish there was a simple solution. Chin up Dawn you are half way to that 6 week mark now!!!! Things have to get better right.

Trish you are a legend coping with wind problems and growth spurts I don't know how you do it. It felt like Liam was feeding constantly yesterday.

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Posted By: tishy
Date Posted: 26 March 2008 at 12:26pm
Dawn, I've had plenty of help until now. Mum left last week and DHs parents leave tomorrow.
As of tomorrow I'm on my own so we'll see how it goes.
Eimear sounds just like Liam, she doesn't cry in her sleep but she does the grunting , groaning stuff. Do you wrap him? Eimear is a bit quieter when she's wrapped.


Posted By: Nic01
Date Posted: 26 March 2008 at 1:01pm
Bella's having wind issues too. It's so new to me having to wind her properly because Matthew just never needed it - you'd feed him & that would be it. She gets quite distressed if I don't get all the wind out though. I'm trying to wind her a few times during her feed instead of letting it all build up til the end & that seems to be helping.

Isabella sleeps quite well at night too - usually going 4 or 5 hours between feeds, so I'm not feeling too tired because I get that block of 3 or 4 hours sleep.

It's my first day of looking after both children on my own today & so far, so good (apart from a couple of tantrums from the 2 year old!) Managed to get them both fed this morning though & then down for their naps. Might even try & be brave enough to take the 2 of them down to the shops quickly this afternoon.

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Posted By: EmDee
Date Posted: 26 March 2008 at 1:24pm
Hi ladies, exciting I can now post in here as a mum.

Well my first day of having to look after 2 kids came a bit sooner than I expected! Stu 'had' to go to Auckland for work today (Microsoft is launching some program and if he attends he gets a free copy to keep!). I knew about it and had organised for mum to come and help me out for the day. She called this morning and is sick and didn't want to get either of the kids sick, which is fair enough.

Poor Ollie has watched Blues Clues and In the Night Garden twice as well as a Wiggles DVD! He has been OK, though we had another struggle over a VERY pooey nappy earlier grrr. Thankfully Lilia has been sleeping pretty well, might actually go wake and feed her. Then will try to nap with her while Ollie is asleep.

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Posted By: Daizy
Date Posted: 26 March 2008 at 2:49pm
Yay, I can join you guys too, Madison Grace was born this morning at 8:25, dont know how long the labour was but it was fast! 9pounds 6 I dont know where she was hiding! She hasnt really done much but have a good feed this morning and sleep, betcha shes saving all her screaming up for tonight. I really love watching Keiras interaction with Madi, I think she was a bit scared of her at first (still covered in 'playdough') but loves to just watch her at the moment. I better try get some sleep before she decideds to wake, Only managed to get 2 hours of sleep last night so pretty shattered, and its only going to get worse!

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Posted By: lucky3rdtime
Date Posted: 26 March 2008 at 2:59pm
Congrats Daizy, don't know how you got time to come on the forum though!!!

Had antenatal coffee group this morning, little miss was an angel, she always is around other people, shame I had to cut it short so I could get back home for the ecan guy. All we have to do is wait for our community services card to turn up and then we will have underfloor insulation and a new logburner for free, yay!!

I can't remember if it was this thread that someone was asking for tips on winding babies, but I found something that seemed to work for Gabs today and she can be quite bad at getting wind up.

I sat her on my knee one hand behind her neck and one hand under the soles of her feet and then lay her down flat and brought her back to a sitting position and as I did I would bring her legs up to her stomach. Then continue with the usual rubbing and patting of her back. It seemed to bring up those troublesome bubbles you can hear inside but never get out. I usually try to burp her 3-4 times per feed so it doesn't back up.


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Posted By: emmaohara
Date Posted: 27 March 2008 at 7:39am
Morning ladies, Dawn hope you are feeling good this morning and got some sleep, sleep helps solve everything I find!!

We have had a sh*tty day here yesterday, Ben who has had a cold for the past week has given it to Sophia , who had a fever all afternoon and runny nose, I rang healthline who told me to ring my mw, who did the whole, strip her off, tepid bath etc. Her temp came down to 37.4 but still to high so I spent the day stressing about her.

She still sleeping now but I'll take her temp when she wakes and hopefully its down again....very stressfull! and Ben is being a monster which i can forgive him for as he is sick but hmmmmmmmm testing my patience big time! if he squeals or yells again this morning I might have to put him in the bin..

Breathe Emma............

Sophia had a great night sleep( well shes ill...) and only woke twice and went bak to sleep afetr 30 minute feed so I can't moan. Oh our trip out yesterday was a mistake...too soon...everyone too ill, I got back and was bleeding heavily , so maybe we will stay home until next week!

Hope you ladies are having a better time of it and new mamas Daphne and Christy are enjoying staring at your beautiful bubbas, I still can;t take my eyes of Sophia shes perfect

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Posted By: EmDee
Date Posted: 27 March 2008 at 9:53am
Oh Emma you poor thing. Yep I reckon hide away for a few days and take it easy. Having a sick household at anytime is stressful enough let alone with a new bubba and mum with hormones running rampant!

Thankfully my milk came in last night, but man I forgot how big (and sore) your boobs get! Thankfully Lili is quite a thirsty wee girl so is helping alot. Saw my midwife yesterday, she said Lili is a little jaundiced so have to make sure she doesn't go too long between feeds (not really an issue there) and I have to bake her in the sun for 10 minutes twice a day - turning once lol!

No I can't take my eyes off Lili either, I think its cos her hair is so dark (and eyes so blue) and I'm used to my little blond boy. Speaking of, Ollie is an absolute darling with his sister. He is so gentle and gets all concerned when she starts crying. I heard him go up to her yesterday and say (what sounded like) 'it's alright' in a soothing voice

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Posted By: LockieandLiam
Date Posted: 27 March 2008 at 10:32am
We had a much better night last night (didn't use the gripe water all day, I was beginning to wonder if that was giving him pains instead of making things better and he was an angel). Liam went down at 8.30pm and woke at 2.00pm, down by 3.00am and woke at just before 6.00am and then he was down again from 6.30am and woke at 8.45am, and was just lying in his cot not even crying out for food. He was still grunting and groaning in his sleep but no cry outs. I had him back into bed at 10.15am so fingers crossed all goes well.

Daph isn't it cute what our little toddlers do with the bubs, Lockie loves giving kisses and cuddles and waves bye bye to Liam.

DH away for the night tonight and back tomorrow night thank goodness MIL in coming around to help out. I still haven't managed to get my head around looking after two around the tea time period especially seen Liam has chosen that time to cluster feed.

I can't remember Lockie being a cluster feeder, how long does this last for anyone know???

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Posted By: tishy
Date Posted: 27 March 2008 at 11:36am
It's ooh so quiet! The girls are asleep in there rockers and there's no one else here wanting to pick them up for a cuddle at the hint of a whimper.
Today is an official blob day in this house and tomorrow I'll start being more productive... maybe I'll wait til Monday

Eimear had one of her rare alert times (she wouldn't wind but was happy in her nappy) at 3-5am last night It did mean that she got to say goodbye to her grandparents before they left for the airport. However not so good for Mummy as she had to feed Aoife at 6am. Thankfully they're back in sync again with them both waking at 9 for breakfast.

We put the girls down for the night after their 10pm feed. We have a cot downstairs and one upstairs so just take them up when we go to bed. Plus they seem to cluster feed between 6 and 10. We'll see how it goes now with less distractions.
Typically they sleep 11-2, 3-6 and 7-9. We do a nappy change at each feed. I think I'll skip that at the 2am feed if there's no poos as they wake up wanting fed but go back to sleep immediately after.

Sometimes I let Eimear sleep on cos I'm sure she could go much longer at night but she always wakes just I finish Aoife so DH only has to wake to bring Eimear down to me while I end up being up for 2 hours during the night.
Back to waking her up I think

ETA: fix typos and to say boy I can ramble on sometimes!


Posted By: LockieandLiam
Date Posted: 27 March 2008 at 12:48pm
I seem to be getting the cluster feeding from 4pm till about 8.30pm. I'm not sure on how to handle this, do I just keep feeding him without a break or every hour if he doesn't go down to sleep? Do I make sense at all??

Trish - yip Liam is wrapped by he seems to be able to get out of it sometimes. Between 3am & 6am last night he had managed to get both arms out and just now I see he has got one arm out. I think he could be one of the bubs that don't like the whole wrapping thing, whereas Lockie loved it and we didn't stop wrapping him until he was 10 months old, and that was when he decided he didn't want to as we had tried it and he just wouldn't settle unless he got out himself.

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Posted By: LockieandLiam
Date Posted: 27 March 2008 at 12:53pm
Emma - hope things are better in your household this morning and everyone is feeling better at least just a little bit.

Got both boys down at the mo so long may it last, I'm hoping Liam will have a good sleep this time, as his sleep at 10am was only 45 mins and I think he woke due to wind.

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Posted By: Tiff
Date Posted: 27 March 2008 at 3:17pm
Hope everyones days are going well, and everyone's 'wind' issues are improving!! I'm glad you found the osteopath helpful Tishy, I've booked Rohann in not for anything in particular but mainly because I had such a long pushing stage I thought it might be beneficial (and it might help her day sleeps, she can be quite restless during the day, but sleeps brilliantly at night). I also know I was a foceps baby and when I was a child I used to get sick all the time, my mother took me to a chiropractor and it turns out that my neck had been 'out since I was born, and once it was fixed I didn't get sick like I used to before.

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Posted By: LockieandLiam
Date Posted: 27 March 2008 at 5:02pm
I think they can last up to about 12 weeks. They say they start to appear between week 3 and 6. Liam has just started to get a few now. Lockie was covered in them, I'm hoping Liam doesn't get them as bad, they look awful. But they say its the mother that notices them the most.

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Posted By: EmDee
Date Posted: 28 March 2008 at 8:50am
Well we had a good night last night. Lilia slept 3-4 hour stretches after her feeds and after her 2am feed she (and I) didn't wake til Stu & Ollie woke us at 7am!

She did give us a lovely big poo this morning so had to have another shower with dad as she had poo all over her cord stump so it doesn't get infected.

We were going to venture out to playgroup today but Ollie is acting a little funny. I'mwondering if he is coming down with something ... only time will tell I guess.

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Posted By: LockieandLiam
Date Posted: 28 March 2008 at 10:18am
We had another good night last night too. Finally got the little monkey to sleep at 6.45pm (he had been awake since 2.30pm, which was doing my head in). Liam woke at 11.15pm so I was happy with that, then he woke at 4am, and at 6.30am after he had finally pushed out that poo that he had been trying to do for ages by the sounds of his grunting and groaning. Had him back down by 8am and he is still sleeping now.

How was playgroup Daph?



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Posted By: EmDee
Date Posted: 28 March 2008 at 4:45pm
We didn't make it to playgroup, Ollie was just a little 'off'. We decided to stay home and just give him lots of atention and it seems to have worked, he is back to his usual happy self. We think he may have realised that Lilia is now part of the household and not just a novelty for a few days!

We did go into Stu's work, mainly to put her birth notice in (he works for the regional newspaper) but of course to show Lilia off! It was a good outing for all of us (Ollie enjoyed sweeping the floor?!) and I enjoyed people reactions when they found out she was only 4 days old!

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Posted By: emmaohara
Date Posted: 29 March 2008 at 2:01pm
Daphne, Ben is the same , think he though Soph was just visiting... but now he strokes her and points to her knee and says baby knee and baby nose, very cute, hes still not his usual self but hes getting there!

Things are a bit better here, everyone still sick but hopefully the runny noses will clear up soon, Soph is sleeping 3-4 hours at night but is a bit of a cryer during the day and wants to be carried all the time, so I might have to invest in a sling

Hope all is good with you guys

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Posted By: tishy
Date Posted: 29 March 2008 at 2:50pm
Last night was bliss! Aoife slept from 9 - 4:30 and 5:30 - 9. We woke her at 9 when Eimear stirred.
Eimear was unsettled between 10 and 12:30 but slept the same as Aoife after that.
Long may it continue I say. We're trying to get them to bed at a more decent time now that all our visitors are gone.

Baby monitors are great to 'dull' the baby cries too!
It's funny that Paul can't distinguish between the girls cries at all whereas I think they're completely different.


I've just back from Baby Factory where I bought an activity mat thingy for the girls too. Can't wait to try it out with them after their next feed

Hope all is well with everyone. Looks like the good weather has finally left Wellington. sigh


Posted By: lucky3rdtime
Date Posted: 29 March 2008 at 7:52pm
Hope everyone is good.

Don't you hate those hormone spots, they look so ugly on your bubbas face.

I must ring the osteopath too Tiff, will do it on Monday, hopefully it will help with Gabs wind.

We got discharged from the mw yesterday, it was a bit weird to think I won't be seeing her anymore. Our first appointment with plunket is in a week and a half. Gabs now weighs 3690g or 8 lb 2 oz, which is a good weight gain from her birth weight of 6 lb 10 according to the mw, so its good to know she is getting enough.

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Posted By: emmaohara
Date Posted: 30 March 2008 at 1:58pm
Hey ladies, how are you all doing?

We had a super long sleep from miss chubby last night, I have been giving her a bottle of formula at 9ish and it seems to be filling her up a bit as last nigth she slept until 3am! I never gave Ben a bottle , well he never took one after trying at 6 months, so its a new experience making up a bottle and feeding it to her but she drinks between 40-80mls!, I know my milk is non existent at that time as she feeds constantly from 3-9 and then still takes a bottle... seeing mw tomorrow and getting her weighed ( shes 2 weeks arrrrr big girl!!) hope shes back to her birth weight.

Any one using a bottle yet?, expressed or formula, I daren't tell my mw as she hates formula but I learnt something from my battles with a hungry hourly waking all night ben..

Tishy can't believe your girls are nearly 2 months old, bet they will love a play mat, I have a black and white book for Sophia and she just stares at the zebra and loves it, so they are never to young!

How are things going with the toddlers Dawn and Daphne?

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Posted By: LockieandLiam
Date Posted: 30 March 2008 at 3:02pm
Yesterday we went away to Hanmer for the night as it was my sisters 30th birthday. I was a bit nervous about the whole thing, I really didn't know how things would go. But they were excellent. Lockie slept in a bunk bed and didn't wake at all during the night and little Liam well he did a 6 hour stretch from 9.15pm to 3.30am (can't complain about that), and then from 4.30am to 7.30am.

Emma - Liam seems to want to constantly feed from 2pm to 5.15pm where he has a nap but will then feed again for another 3 hours after that. I haven't tried the bottle but it has crossed my mind. Apparently its called cluster feeding when they keep feeding and they are just building up enough food to get them through for a bit longer. I must say when Liam does it (yes a pain and it drives me bananas), he seems to do a great stretch at night. It's really hard when you have a toddler on the scene wanting your attention too.

Liam having a great sleep now went down at 12.15pm (in the car) and well its nearly 3pm and he's till asleep, unlike my toddler who had 45mins in the car and is a little ratty, but we did give him the chance to go back to sleep in his bed and he just lay there talking. We could be in for an interesting afternoon.

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Posted By: tishy
Date Posted: 30 March 2008 at 6:34pm
Emma - we use the bottle here for expressed milk. Have been since we were in Neonatal. Funnily enough the nurses had to suss out whether we would agree to use bottles before outright suggesting it So for the first few weeks we were topping them up with milk after we fed them. I think it was the main reason we got discharged so quickly.
Now I use it if I'm exhausted (more than usual ) and want a longer snooze or if either girl is on a growth spurt and I have no milk left in boobies.
I'm still expressing last thing at night so my milk supply is keeping ahead to them thankfully. I'm also stocking up the freezer nicely for if I want to disappear for longer than a couple of hours. I haven't yet but I like to know that I can

I think the girls were a bit overwhelmed with the activity mat! hehe

Our sleep last night wasn't as good as the night before. both girls did 8:30 - 2, then Aoife needed more at 4 and I didn't get her down again til after 5. Eimear then decided to wake at 6 so it was a long night for me. Tonight I think I'll go to bed the same time as the girls rather than stay up watching Kill Bill 2 until 11:30

We had an antenatal catchup this afternoon, it was nice to have mums and dads there. Aoife was both the oldest (other than Eimear) and the smallest there hehe!

Glad your night away went well Dawn. I hope Lachie behaved himself this afternoon



Posted By: lucky3rdtime
Date Posted: 31 March 2008 at 2:23pm
I have bottle fed since day one with formula with Gabs as bf never interested me. She is usually a good sleeper too, will mostly go for four hours at a time, but don't know if that has anything to do with it. I discussed it with my mw when I first met her and she was always supportive of my decision.

I made an apptmt with the osteopath today for next Thursday after an unsettled night and the feed from hell this morning. She just kept power vommitting and wouldn't bring up her wind and then had the biggest poohy nappy and finally got a huge amoutn of wind up and she was good after that. It can be so frustrating sometimes when I can hear the wind bubbling away but she won't bring it up and she's only had half the amount she generally needs. So fingers crossed the osteo will help her burp herself more easily.

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Posted By: EmDee
Date Posted: 31 March 2008 at 2:37pm
I hope the osteo can help Lucky that sounds awful for both you and Gabrielle.

I've started expressing milk after most feeds as Lilia doesn't seem to drain me the way Ollie used to. Its really just to get the excess milk (like 20-30ml), I don't want to increase my supply or anything. Plus as I will probably be heading back to work when she is around 6 months it will be good to start stocking up now.

With wind Lilia is pretty good at getting it out herself, generally I can just sit her up and she'll burp, though someimes she will need a bit of help.

Saw the mw today for our 1 week check up, Lilia has lost about 150gm, but is otherwise doing fine. The weight loss kind of worried me as Ollie gained in his first week, however mw explained that losing up to 10% in the first week is considered to be ok.

On the toddler front Ollie did not have a nap yesterday and he was a right little ratbag. He started to fall asleep on the couch just before dinner and he wasn't rousing in response to his name. However Stu said 'do you want to play with the helicopter?' (Stu bought a cheap remote controlled helicopter off Trademe) and he was awake so quickly and trying to get off the couch, it was so funny! He's been a little trying today too, but at least he is having a nap ... 2 hours and counting. I think he may have molars and or eye-teeth coming up, but I can't get into his mouth to have a look.

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Posted By: Tiff
Date Posted: 31 March 2008 at 3:38pm
Finally made it on here again!! Amazing how your days seem to fill up!! And because Rohann only seems to slepp on average about 1 hour I have to squeeze a lot into that time!! But I can't complain she slept from 8 - 4.15 then 4.30 - 7.30 last night and this morning so I figure she has to fit those other feeds in somewhere!!!

I'm a bit nervous saying this but I've had to bottle feed Rohann from 2 -3 weeks. A really tough and emotional decision for me (so no negative comments please). We deiscovered at her 1 week weigh that she had lost too much weight so it was decided she would be weighed in 2 days, at that time there was no real improvement. Long story short it was discovered that my milk never came in properly (never got the engorgement, leaky boobs etc), I started doing everything I could to get my milk in; expressing after every feed with a hosp grade pump, special tea, massaging a special oil into boobs etc. Unfortunately I'm unable to take the medication to bring on milk as it reacts with another medication I'm on and at this stage I need to stay on that for heath reasons. After a couple of days of this it was decided she needed something else as she was not coping on the little I had, so we started lactatube feeding her (feeding her with a tube and formula while on my breast). But unfortunately my milk just didn't come after almost a week of this (I tried expressing without feeding her once to see how much milk was there and after 20mins I got 10ml off one breast and 20 off the other and in that time I should have been getting at least 150ml) so the decision was made (with help of m/w and lactation consultant) put her on formula. She still feeds off me at least once a day but it's more for my comfort and hers than anything as she still needs a bottle after this. I don't feel guilty for giving her formula as it's the best thing for her but I do feel angry that my body hasn't worked the way it should and it has let me and Rohann down, especially as she is the best feeder, she was straight on the breast and latched perfectly. So it's been a bit sad, but as soon as she startesd getting the formula she was like a different baby, as before if she wasn't feeding she was grizzling and crying and not sleeping (except at night, she was always good there, though we thought it was be default as she wasn't sleeping during the day).
Anyway sorry for the novel!! what a long way to say 'yes we are giving our baby the bottle'!!!

Lucky I really hope the osteo can help por Gabs (and you!)

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Posted By: LockieandLiam
Date Posted: 31 March 2008 at 3:52pm
Well finally got Liam down at 2.40pm (from 7.30am) for longer than 10 mins at a time and he is still sleeping now touch wood. Mw thinks he is on a growth spurt but I was wondering if my milk supply was enough for him as he seems to be a right piggie. Although yesterday I was so engorged it wasn't funny to the point of uncomfortable. So not really sure what to think right now. We had 5 really good days and nights and since yesterday arvo things turned to custard so could point to growth spurt I suppose. I was so tempted to send DH down to the supermarket to get some formula as I was shagged and hated seeing Liam that way too. Mw said just keep feeding and feeding. So fingers crossed we have got through the worst of it.

On the toddler front Lockie decided no sleep today, didn't help that he had pooed himself after we put him to bed and DH only found that out at 2.15pm (when he had been in bed for 2 hours already). DH and Lockie have now gone out in the car to the mall. Lockie fell over just outside the door and it was the end of the world (of course no sleep didn't help matters, and I had only just got Liam to sleep, thank goodness that commotion didn't wake him). So think it might be early night for that little boy. He went to preschool this morning so he has to be shattered.

Right I should really put my head down and see if I can get some kip before no.1 comes home and no.2 wakes up.

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Posted By: Tiff
Date Posted: 31 March 2008 at 3:58pm
Mummy2one - hope things settle down for you soon, sounds like it's been tough. You could be right about the growth spurt - don't they say every 3 - 4 weeks? Enjoy your sleep.

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Posted By: lucky3rdtime
Date Posted: 31 March 2008 at 4:16pm
mummydee, Gabs lost about that amount of weight after the first week too and it is nothing to worry about, my mw said the same, up to 10% is normal.

Yeah I was thinking that a growth spurt could have been our problem yesterday too, she kept wanting to feed every 3 hours, which is not normal for her and during yesterday in the day time she was pretty unsettled as well as last night, at least she is more settled today. Well either that or she just had a massive wind build up and got it out this morning LOL!

I just had to wake her at 3pm as her last feed was at 9am and she had been asleep since about 10.30-10.45 this morning, so that's a pretty long time between a feed really, 6 hours, its a bit of a stretch for her, so she fed (well this time) took 80 mls and put her back down about 3.45pm and back to sleep(well fingers crossed).

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Posted By: Tiff
Date Posted: 31 March 2008 at 5:25pm
Far out Lucky thats a long day sleep - she must have needed it after her busy day yesterday!! Can you believe our babies are four weeks old!!! Where has that time gone?

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Posted By: lucky3rdtime
Date Posted: 31 March 2008 at 6:47pm
I know its a bit sad to think that a whole month has gone by already!

Yeah I wish she would sleep 6 hours at night instead, she just woke up again so that's only 3 and a half hours since her last feed, which is earlier than I thought it would be, its just so hard to tell at the moment how long she will be down for. DH does the feed at this time of night, which is good, gives me a break.

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Posted By: EmDee
Date Posted: 01 April 2008 at 8:48am
Tiff - just wanted to say (re: bottle feeding) that you are doing the best by your baby and that is all that matters! I can imagine how it may make you feel sad, but you have a healthy baby and that the most important thing

Well we had a good night last night, Ollie slept right through and woke happy for a start. Actually when Stu went to get him out of bed, I heard Ollie say 'Boo' when Stu opened the door! Cute!!

Lilia went down to sleep at 9pm, awake at 1am then back down just after 2am and awake at 6am again. She's now been down since 7.30am.

This morning we are all off to music, I think I'll let Stu do the running and dancing around with Ollie though. I think Ollie will love the novelty of having dad there with him.

Right off to check the March thread to see if there are anymore bubbas. Have a lovely day ladies!

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Posted By: tishy
Date Posted: 01 April 2008 at 11:08am
Tiff,I must say I admire you for the effort you made with breastfeeding. I know I wouldn't have lasted that long.

Daph - that is soo cute of Ollie!

We had a similar sleep pattern last night as well. Other than Eimear being her usual windy grizzly self and needing one of us to settle her to sleep.


I had an upsetting revelation this morning. Yet again I was thinking ' I can't wait until this part is over so things get easier' But it doesn't get easier do they? Just different?

I find myself feeling guilty for not being able to give the 1 on 1 time that I think each of them should have.
The only time, and energy, I have is to feed, burp and change them. By the time that's all over it's time for them to sleep and me to get some food into me before it all starts again.





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