Oh I can't wait to be posting in here!!! Its cool its all ready for us, just need some babies now!!!!

Maya wrote: *lurking in* Am guessing Chonny didn'y get much sleep last night "Vincent would like to announce the safe arrival of his lil bro David Michael at 6.53am this morning. Mother and baby well. Vincent very excited!" Huge congrats to Chonny, her DH and of course new big bro Vincent!

Also lurking .... CONGRATS Chonny - so pleased to hear about David's safe arrival .

Welcome Jo, congrats on your bubba and yay for good dh's mind is a real angel and i know what you mean about being home and them not having to go, i had a little weap when in the hospital in the eve when he would go home.

Still first night all together tonight.

I have no idea about if we are feeding too much/too little etc.......and know I should be resting when he does, but i feel so awake all the time, probably only sleeping about 2 hours a day for the last 3 - sure that can't be good.

Katie good to hear things are going well with Ash.

Pam - Sonya's so cute, hope things are going well with you guys

Hi all, well we had a pretty good night, Finley went down around midnight and got up at 3 then that was it until about 6 and i managed some sleep too, so feel pretty human today, amazing what you get used to.

Quick query, if you express a bit and put that in the fridge can you add more to the same mix later, i need to express a whole feed but can't do it in one sitting at the mo.

Had some 5 day blues last night, dh made roast dinner and just as i started eating i just started to cry, so we had a good cuddle, dinner got cold and then i felt fine again - weird.

Emma that's great about Lily gaining weight. MW weighed DS yesterday and he has only lost 100g or 2oz since birth which she is thrilled about as he barely fed for the first 3 days.

Jo, thanks for that, I thought you must be able to. I need to express a bit anyway since my milk came in, my boobs just leak and leak and leak and he can't latch on unless i get rid of some.

The emotional bit for me comes at moments i least expect its weird.

How long does a baby feed from each side. Finley happily spends 30 mins on each side, sometimes 1 side is enough but its always 30 mins, i wondered whether he is comfort suckling but i can hear him swallow all the time so he must still be feeding.

DH is trying the evening feed tonight - wish us luck. For some reason it makes me nervous.

Chonny with David being past his birth weight it sounds like  you are doing a great job, which is awesome considering the pain you must be in.

Does he sleep 6 hours without needing a feed - wow.

Finley can manage 3.5 or 4 hours sleep in one go but that's about it, still i'm happy with that.

Dh did the late evening feed last night, i went to bed at 9 and thought I would never sleep through but i just passed up and only woke at 2am, when Finley woke up for his next feed, 5 hours sleep - i feel like i could run a marathon now.

Oh yes, how much pain should i still be in, i had a big tear and a perineal tear and many stitches but my tail bone feels so sore, it still means i am walking round very slowly. My mw said not to walk any great distant for 10 days or so, but just wondering how sore others are?????

so that's ok with the pain thing then, I was just finding it all ached down there even when in bed which was stopping me from sleeping but it is starting to ease off, my mw thinks I have bruised my tailbone a bit too - its all very ouchy that's for sure.

Jess, Finley really only sleeps 3 - 4 hours in one stretch but i'm ok with this too, its enough if he links a couple of those together. Last night he went to bed at 11, up at 3, i woke at 2.45 in a blind panic that i woke up because I needed to pee and not because he was crying. Then he was back to sleep until 6.45, so pretty good in all.

Sore nipple day though, after feeding sometimes it feels like they are on fire. We need some more October babies to come out, fill this thread out a bit!!

Nana and Poppa arrive today, i'm sure Finley would be excited if he could understand, i'm excited as long as they leave me to it.

Kristy, have been taking panadol but that's about it, today is the first day it actually feels like its easing which is nice, but the overall ache is nasty. I now have some itchy stiches too!!!

DS asleep on DH while inlaws do the shopping, how good is that!! Still worried about how you manage a day when DH goes away, its nice to be able to get him to settle finley or change him so i can do something else, like dress or feed myself.

Awesome sleeps for James Jo, we had a good night, he went down at 11 until 3, and then up again at just before 7, and has had all his sleeps at the right time today, just a couple of short naps and one long one during the day seems to work with him.

Inlaws are here and its ok except i need to bf in another room, i am not happy doing it infront of father in law, don't know why, probably as Finley and I are still learning and he still takes his time latching which means i need to concentrate and its not very discreet iykwim.

Ok breast feeding is a pain, my boy is just not a natural sucker at all, he has a bottle feed at 10.30 each night now after we established my milk is just rubbish at that time, so dh either gives  him milk i've expressed through the day or formula, allows me to get some sleep.

Anyway he slept until 3, which was fab but took from 3 to 4.20 just to have one feed, getting him latched on too forever and was so stressful, can see why people give up for sure giving him a bottle takes no time and nobody cries, we were both in tears. Still determined to carry on - just needed to vent about it today.

Chonny I want your mw.

Last night spent most the night in tears over our latching on problem, some days is just so much worse than others and last night it took 40 minutes to get him on only for him to then fall asleep and wake up not long later looking for more, poor thing he was exhausted and so was i.

How do I find an LC? My mw just seems to think I should persevere, which is all well and good but in the middle of the night when you can't feed your crying child all you want to do is give in and give them a bottle. I felt like a total failure last night.

Feeling a bit better this morning, trying to remmeber its a new day and maybe today he'll remember how to bf again. I just want to feed him.

Sorry another ranty day from me.

Awesome that your mw is going to sort your nipple out Chonny, hope it works and you'll be back in no time.

Time to wake him for more food - wish me luck!!

Hi ladies, well we are having a better day today!!! After our latching nightmares yesterday he just decided to be good and do it - weird still going to see an LC as he really struggles with latching but it does help if i'm not stressed.

Last night he would not have his late nap, had his last feed at 11 and slept until 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I woke up in shock could not believe the time.

Inlaws are now driving me crazy, 5 days is a long time espcially when the weather is bad and we are all cooped up.

Ooh yes yesterday we managed to go out for the first time and get a coffee, and he slept the whole time - hoorah.

so get the temptation to throw books out sometimes, my little man was so awake after all feeds yesterday including the one at 3am.....and now I am a dummy convert I am fairly sure my man is a comfort sucker.

unsure how long you should let them feed for on either side - going to post a thread to ask.

Sticky eye, starting to get one, put some breast milk on it was what I was told to do, so I have, shall let you know how it goes.

Inlaws gone, final comment from them was a stressed mum = a stress baby, making me feel totally inadequate!!!!

yes it was, cos guess what now i'm stressed and he won't settle.

Such great news you are home Katie - really fantastic!!! Hope you are both settling in well.