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cuppatea
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Posted: 10 August 2009 at 3:26pm |
Having small boobs doesn't mean you can't feed or won't have enough milk. I'm only an A cup and both times I have had huge over supply problems.
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Posted: 10 August 2009 at 3:30pm |
Febgirl wrote:
fattartsrock wrote:
BREASTFEEDING MYTHS
Never wake a sleeping baby
Poor supply is due to stress, tiredness and bad diet and liquid intake
Nipple confusion doesn’t exist
Demand feeding makes a mother resentful
Other members of the family need to feed the baby so they can bond as well
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I believe there is basis to all of these - maybe not 100% of the time or in every circumstance, but I wouldn't call them myths. |
Ok there is BASIS to these, but generally they are myths for the best part. Although I would agree that they aren't myths for everyone, I have taken these from a published article, and I have referenced it at the bottom of my initial post, so its not me making it up, either! they come from reserched studies conducted over a long period of time.
The sleeping baby thing is a myth in part because not waking baby to feed can affect your supply in those early days when you need to feed all the time to get supply up. Not waking can lead to over hungry baby who won't latch correctly or comes off lll the time in frustration becasue they are hungry and want it now
The nipple confusion thing also, I see lots of women having huge BF issues becasue they started off with BF and expressing for a night feed right off the bat (so Dad can "bond"). Before BF is properly establiseshed (around 6 weeks) Baby can struggle with getting used to different sucking techniques. This is actually proven, I have 2 references on this, 2 differnt Drs conducted studies and when I can get my book out of the wardrobe in Charlys room, i will reference it, if you like.
And at the risk of a flaming, I have to say, there are millions of Dads/Grandparents etc out there who have managed to bond just fine with their babies without feeding them....
Like I said, though, they won't ring true for everyone, however it is safest to call them "myths", becasue we deal woth alot of worried mums out there who have their heads filled with these myths and they can create barriers to happy feeding!
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Posted: 10 August 2009 at 3:42pm |
fattarts, can you please define what it means for breastfeeding to be "established"? I've wondered this for a while. Does it only refer to your supply? How does one know when the establishment has happened? Ta
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Posted: 10 August 2009 at 3:45pm |
I think good daddy baby bonding can occur via nappy changing
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Posted: 10 August 2009 at 3:51pm |
fattartsrock wrote:
Bizzy wrote:
weegee wrote:
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Poor supply is due to stress, tiredness and bad diet and liquid intake |
Really Annie?! I totally thought that was gospel! Is it just that stress inhibits letdown then? |
i certainly thought those things could contribute to a poor supply. come give us more info Fats! |
Sorry, been offline for a whole week!!! They can certainly be contributing factors and all three togethrr might make for poor supply, and yes., stress will make let down a bit slower, but poor supply is usually caused by lots of things such as - clock feeding instead of demand feeding, not feeding enough on one side before offering the other side, too short feeds, skipping feeds (not waking your sleeping new baby or giving a bottle of formula or ebm at night and not pumping to make up for lost feed), the list goes on.
Diet and liquid intake have no effect really, Baby (and body) takes to your detriment, same as if you can't eat while you are pg cops of sickness. The body (and baby) take nutirents etc from your own stores. Even women in food lacking nations manage to feed their children...
Tiredness also, no effect, although not having a good diet can contribute to tiredness as well, |
sheesh, toby was really abnormal then.. he was clock fed and given a dummy at less than a week old and none of that affected my supply (oh and i used to wake him to feed)... just goes to show really doesnt it that even tho there may be some basis for fact not all Myths are that!
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Posted: 10 August 2009 at 4:01pm |
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Yeah, or that the whole areola should be in baby's mouth - my babies mouths aren't that huge! |
Hehe that is what I was meaning, just in case I've got abnormal boobs I wasn't going to say it too loud!
If bubs had their lip on the bottom of my areola the nipples is no where near their mouths.
My theory was if it doesn't hurt then it's got to be all good.
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Posted: 10 August 2009 at 4:08pm |
fattartsrock wrote:
Febgirl wrote:
fattartsrock wrote:
BREASTFEEDING MYTHS
Never wake a sleeping baby
Poor supply is due to stress, tiredness and bad diet and liquid intake
Nipple confusion doesn’t exist
Demand feeding makes a mother resentful
Other members of the family need to feed the baby so they can bond as well
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I believe there is basis to all of these - maybe not 100% of the time or in every circumstance, but I wouldn't call them myths. |
Ok there is BASIS to these, but generally they are myths for the best part. Although I would agree that they aren't myths for everyone, I have taken these from a published article, and I have referenced it at the bottom of my initial post, so its not me making it up, either! they come from reserched studies conducted over a long period of time.
The sleeping baby thing is a myth in part because not waking baby to feed can affect your supply in those early days when you need to feed all the time to get supply up. Not waking can lead to over hungry baby who won't latch correctly or comes off lll the time in frustration becasue they are hungry and want it now
The nipple confusion thing also, I see lots of women having huge BF issues becasue they started off with BF and expressing for a night feed right off the bat (so Dad can "bond"). Before BF is properly establiseshed (around 6 weeks) Baby can struggle with getting used to different sucking techniques. This is actually proven, I have 2 references on this, 2 differnt Drs conducted studies and when I can get my book out of the wardrobe in Charlys room, i will reference it, if you like.
And at the risk of a flaming, I have to say, there are millions of Dads/Grandparents etc out there who have managed to bond just fine with their babies without feeding them....
Like I said, though, they won't ring true for everyone, however it is safest to call them "myths", becasue we deal woth alot of worried mums out there who have their heads filled with these myths and they can create barriers to happy feeding! |
Apologies if it sounded like I was having a go - and I appreciate that you did reference the list so they weren't things you were making up off the top of your head I was just thinking of my own personal experiences when I posted- I was fortunate enough to have an easy breastfeeding experience with DD, I would let her sleep during the night for as long as possible, DH fed her EBM from 2 weeks onwards once a day without any issues, and sometimes I did feel resentful having to get up numerous times a night to feed!
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Posted: 10 August 2009 at 8:40pm |
Bizzy wrote:
fattartsrock wrote:
Bizzy wrote:
weegee wrote:
fattartsrock wrote:
Poor supply is due to stress, tiredness and bad diet and liquid intake |
Really Annie?! I totally thought that was gospel! Is it just that stress inhibits letdown then? |
i certainly thought those things could contribute to a poor supply. come give us more info Fats! |
Sorry, been offline for a whole week!!! They can certainly be contributing factors and all three togethrr might make for poor supply, and yes., stress will make let down a bit slower, but poor supply is usually caused by lots of things such as - clock feeding instead of demand feeding, not feeding enough on one side before offering the other side, too short feeds, skipping feeds (not waking your sleeping new baby or giving a bottle of formula or ebm at night and not pumping to make up for lost feed), the list goes on.
Diet and liquid intake have no effect really, Baby (and body) takes to your detriment, same as if you can't eat while you are pg cops of sickness. The body (and baby) take nutirents etc from your own stores. Even women in food lacking nations manage to feed their children...
Tiredness also, no effect, although not having a good diet can contribute to tiredness as well, |
sheesh, toby was really abnormal then.. he was clock fed and given a dummy at less than a week old and none of that affected my supply (oh and i used to wake him to feed)... just goes to show really doesnt it that even tho there may be some basis for fact not all Myths are that! |
Thats cos you like to go against the grain, Biz!
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Posted: 10 August 2009 at 8:42pm |
Febgirl wrote:
[QUOTE=fattartsrock] [QUOTE=Febgirl] [QUOTE=fattartsrock] BREASTFEEDING MYTHS
Apologies if it sounded like I was having a go - and I appreciate that you did reference the list so they weren't things you were making up off the top of your head I was just thinking of my own personal experiences when I posted- I was fortunate enough to have an easy breastfeeding experience with DD, I would let her sleep during the night for as long as possible, DH fed her EBM from 2 weeks onwards once a day without any issues, and sometimes I did feel resentful having to get up numerous times a night to feed! |
Not at all! I just wanted to make it clear tht I hadn't made these up, lol, that they were reserched myths!
and I appreciate, like I said that it dosen't apply to all! And I still feel resentful gettign up to my kids in the night, lol!
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Posted: 10 August 2009 at 8:44pm |
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Thats cos you like to go against the grain, Biz! |
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Posted: 10 August 2009 at 8:47pm |
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Posted: 10 August 2009 at 8:48pm |
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Posted: 10 August 2009 at 8:50pm |
Aliasmum wrote:
Maya wrote:
Yeah, or that the whole areola should be in baby's mouth - my babies mouths aren't that huge! |
Hehe that is what I was meaning, just in case I've got abnormal boobs I wasn't going to say it too loud!
If bubs had their lip on the bottom of my areola the nipples is no where near their mouths.
My theory was if it doesn't hurt then it's got to be all good. |
woohoo!! So its not just me who has that problem!! I had to get nipple shields cos she wouldnt take it in properly, too big and squishy for her teeny little mouth She feeds perfectly with them so I'm keeping it this way for now lol
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Posted: 10 August 2009 at 9:01pm |
Bizzy wrote:
sheesh, toby was really abnormal then.. he was clock fed and given a dummy at less than a week old and none of that affected my supply (oh and i used to wake him to feed)... just goes to show really doesnt it that even tho there may be some basis for fact not all Myths are that! |
So was Lauren lol She was only fed expressed milk for the first two weeks via bottle (due to failure to latch properly), woken every three hours day and night due to jaunders (sp?), and had a dummy!
Good news was by 6 weeks she was exclusively b/f, I had a fantastic supply of milk and managed to b/f till 7 months after an absolute nightmare introduction to b/f!!
I hope my little story gives someone hope that it DOES get better!
On a side note I am liking all this info and help on OhBaby now that is available to new Mums!! Sometimes b/f does not come naturally (and I know only too damn well lol)!!!
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Posted: 10 August 2009 at 11:23pm |
cuppatea wrote:
Having small boobs doesn't mean you can't feed or won't have enough milk. I'm only an A cup and both times I have had huge over supply problems. |
Same here! BFing only got easy once my supply settled down at around 3 or so months.
Also agree with the "weight will fall off" one - yeah right!
Also - the chin must tuck in tight next to the breast - Campbell never did this well, I also figured that if it didn't hurt, it was all good!
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Posted: 11 August 2009 at 1:56pm |
I ended up expressing for six months and my boobs are very saggy and soft
and now my baby is awake...
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Posted: 11 August 2009 at 2:40pm |
Pregnancy makes your boobs soft and saggy as during pregnancy the fat deposits disappear to make way for milk production, so even those who don't bf end up with saggy soft ones. (or so someone told me anyway, could be another myth to make us feel better)
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Posted: 11 August 2009 at 6:47pm |
Ha thanks cuppatea that makes me feel much better how I wish the 'baby weight will magically disappear' myth was true!!
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Posted: 11 August 2009 at 8:48pm |
I dont think I saw "if you have a c-section you cant breastfeed". I was so worried I wasnt going to be able to feed as I had a section, didnt get skin to skin with Jake for over 2 hours and his tummy was so full of mucus he would latch on and suck for a couple of seconds and go back to sleep. With lots of hard work for the first 3 days of waking for feeding, hand expressing and then pumping every 3 hours my milk did come in.. phew.
I was also told that leaking does not mean you have oversupply just an active letdown.. is this true?
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