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    Posted: 27 July 2010 at 9:29am
Hi there

I had some tests done re my miscarriages and the only thing that came back was that I tested positive for antinuclear antibodies. My doctor put me on 150mg of low does aspirin and sent me away to try again.
Has anyone else been diagnosed with this and gone on to have a successful pregnancy?
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I will be watching this with interest mrsh as this is what has turned up for me too. Going through my naturopath though who is treating me with herbs for blood thinning and immune balancing so much the same type of treatment really FX this works for us both.
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Looks like its just me and you didi! I am taking 150mg of low dose aspirin now so hopefully that will do the trick. The specialist seems to think so anyway. Trying real hard to be healthy now, we are trying again next month so I need to get my body up to scratch. Decided to cut out alcohol too - going to have to give up at some stage so it may as well be now. Asides from affecting fertility, its not good for my skin or my belly
Thrown away my thermometer and charting pad too - want to take a different approach to TTC. I figure when our little button is ready to join us it will. When are you trying again??
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I gave up alcohol 7 weeks ago as per my naturopaths request and really found it alot easier than I thought also I am currently down about 2kgs which I think is due to cutting out the booze.
I understand your not wanting to chart I am only 1/2 way through my second month and do find it makes me think about TTC to much. As soon as my naturopath has enough info I will probably stop too. Not allowed to try this month (I even tryed puppy eyes and a lip drop) but am hoping she will give me the go ahead for next month, desperately wanting to get back into tying at the moment, but also understand that I need to give the herbs a chance to do their job.
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Last time I gave up the vino I replaced it with chocolate which is also not very good for the belly! Whoops.
I feel good about my decision. Decided that by giving up wine, geting fit and healthy and starting to enjoy life without TTC hanging over our heads this would send out good positive vibes to the universe.   I'm also going to start painting the 'babies room' which will be a good project for me anyway.
Can understand how much you want to try again but I guess your naturopath is right - give the herbs a chance to work so you dont have to go through this again
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Just wanted to say MrsH that I'm really sorry about the antinuclear things. For you too Didi
I had never heard of it so I googled it. I really hope your next pregnancies are smooth sailing from start to finish

P.S. I am also deciding to ditch the temping. I'm not trying again for a wee while but when I do I don't think I'll chart as it tends to takeover my life and makes TTC far too stressful.

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Havnt heard of it, but I too hope the asprin and herbs help girls and your in a due in thread soon x


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Thats Emmi - fingers crossed I get to jump into the April 2011 thread

Hey Bobsta - thanks for your message, nice to see you pop in on here from time to time. Hope life is starting to treat you a bit better? Yeah, the temping thing was starting to take over a bit, was watching my chart like a hawk. My doctor clapped and cheered when I told her I'd thrown it away! Haha.. Its taken 4 months but finally I feel at peace with the world. Its a good feeling
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Hiya,

I think this is exactly what I have too

I'm with FA in Hamilton and my Dr has started me on a new IVF protocol called Colardo, basically I start taking asprin before my next period, antibiotics around transfer time, also some steriods (not so sure about this ) and after transfer I get to do the lovely pessary thing along with an oral progesterone tablet.

This will be my last embie, so fingers crossed it does the trick this time as I think the waiting list for another round of IVF is about 18months and at 36 I'm not getting any younger!

Wishing you ladies the best of luck and I will be lurking to see how you get on.
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I hope things work out for you too scaredyCat, it must be tough to go through the whole IVF process to end up MCing. I have heard of using steriods namely prednisone for ANA antibodies, as they supress the immune system I think it is quite common in the USA but only recently used as treatment in the UK and over here.

Well I had some more blood test results back and I am also low in vit D, so that is something else for me to sort out. I have a sun allergy which apparently could be related to the ANA and obviously explains the vit D.
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Hey thats really interesting re the vit D. I've always had trouble with my back and last year around this time it was giving me grief so my doctor did some blood tests to see if anything showed up with them. All that came back was that I was really low in Vit D, she gave me some pills to take and told me to get some sun. I'm far from a sun worshiper, I cant sit out it in for more than about 30 min before I start to feel sick. I wonder if this is the case for me too? Interesting!
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Thanks Didi99, yeah it is pretty heartrbreaking to finally get a BFP after the stress of IVF to miscarry, and then have the exact same thing happen twice really put me a bad place and its taken this long to want to get on the band wagon, so to speak, again.

Thats also what my Dr told me re the Colorado protocol, not commonly done over here but as we do seem to have very high quality embies and I do manage to get pregnant, she thinks its my body trying to get rid of the embie thats the problem. I just looked at the list of my pills and it is the Prednisone I start to take on the day of LH surge.

I see from your signature that you have suffered the same heart ache, and very recently too, so I'm so sorry for your loss, fingers crossed for a sticky one next time for you.

Very interesting regarding your Vit D, is it a special test that your Dr order, I seem to have had sooooo many blood tests but I'm not sure if that particualr one has ever been done, was there any clues for your Dr to pick up on this?
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I have quite a bad sun allergy last summer it has been really bad to the point that my face was so swollen I had issues actually seeing.
I am actually seeing a naturopath at this point (as they won’t see you medically until 3 MC's) she is the one that has asked for all these tests I am just really lucky that my GP is happy to play ball and order everything my naturopath asks for. I think she just saw the fact that I tend to avoid too much sun exposure and cover up due to my allergy that the likelihood of low vitD was high.
I have had a good look and there doesn't seem to be a solid link between vit D and MC's but there looks like there is some research to suggest there may be a link. MrsH if you have had low vit D levels in the past I don't think it would do you any harm to take a supplement.
It is interesting though as we also tested my Thyroid which has come back fine however my naturopath still recons that it is not working right because I have a low BBT and I am still taking support for it. Based on my research I am not sure if I actually agree with her on this one, I will question her next visit but I have made a decision to try this so I think I need to commit to what she says for now and everything else makes sense.
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Thanks for that, I think I might be the opposite on the Vit D, I'm a sun lover, hate the cold and sit in the sun as much as I possibly can, although I am very aware of burning and using chemicals such as sun block etc, its a catch 22 really.

Who is your Naturopath if you don't mind me asking? I turned to a Naturopath too after my second m/c, I have been using Nikki from Natural Reproductive Care and she is lovely and being from Katikati I have been able to do it all online and over the phone, apart from the BT's etc which makes it so much easier than travelling to apps etc.

Have you had to change too much to fit in with what your Naturopath requests you do?
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I think I will look at taking a vit D supplement. I feel like I have so many pills to pop at the moment! Maybe a preg supplement might be the go? I will talk to someone at the health food shop and see what they say. I promised myself I wouldn't google all this stuff about ANA but hey, what do you know. Now I have just given myself something else to panic about. Sigh... My Mum suffered from an over active thyroid and ended up having her thyroid removed. My sister reckons I need mine tested but as you said Scaredy Cat, I've had soooooo many tests you would think they would've done that?!

When are you trying again SC?
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I am seeing Rebekah at Mother Well, I haven't had to do too much really I was eating healthy anyway, I think the major change was giving up the booze completely and charting. Also exercising a bit more but I was planning on doing that anyway as I had gotten a bit lazy. I am also looking at accupuncture as well as it is something that is surposed to work well with balancing our body for fertility.

MrsH what were your temps like when you where charting? that is how/why my naturopath thinks mine in a little underactive. I'm feeling like a major pill popper at the moment too apparently at my next consult we are going to look at refining what I'm on as she is concerned about how much I am on, because of this she is putting me on vit D3 drops rather than tablets.
When you search have a look at the pages that come up from the everybody.co.nz forums, it's another NZ forum and I think quite interesting. That is actually a forum I quite often read the MC support threads on as there are alot of really knowlegeable ladies on there (I have been tempted to join a couple of times but I have enough trouble keeping up with one forum).
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Yeah, I read the m/c support thread on everybody.co.nz. I joined when I had my first m/c and posted a few times but dont now, just read and watch. I think one forum is enough to cope with!
My temps were around 36.4 - 36.6 before ov and after ov they went up to around 36.8 - 37.0, higher if I was pg.
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Thats pretty much what mine has done too, she has given me a plan of food that is especially good for my blood type, and funnily enough, most things on there are the things I like anyway.

I've given up tea and coffee but haven't quite given up all the booze yet, not that I drink a lot, prob only once a week and its just one glass of wine etc.

And then the general exercise thing too which is not too hard, we live on a lifestyle block and have heaps of animals to keep me busy out there doing stuff.

I tried accupuncture with my last transfer and unfort that was the only time I had a BFN, so now not sure if I want to go there again. I can't say it was the needles for sure as we did have a fair bit of stress in our lives at the time as my Mum had just been diagnosed with Cancer.

MrsH, I know what you mean, google is not your friend at times! But you just can't help it sometimes, you just want a quick easy answer that will fix the problem .... wish it was that simple!

I'm doing my next TER in mid August so will start taking the asprin in about 5 days.

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Your temps sound like they are in quite a good range MrsH My naturopath wants my first half to be round 36.3 at the lowest and the second at least 36.6. Thats like over 0.2 higher than where I sit now which is a big jump. Still not completely convinced this is a definate link to my thyroid. Don't know what is up with my chart this cycle it is so all over the show, really driving me up the wall. My emotions are all over the place too I was up till 2am just having a big cry, feeling really sad and overwhelmed by everything at the moment.

Lot's of sticky vibes for your transfer ScaredyCat, not far away now.
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Thanks Didi99, I'm so scared of it not working this time and it being my last embie its doing my head in!! Oh well, what will be, will be I guess, I can't keep putting it off!

Sorry to hear you are having a hard time of it at the moment, big , sometimes it helps to have a big cry and get it all out, I hope you start to feel better soon though. Its a tough road and so overwhelming sometimes, its so hard to pick youself up off the floor.

We just had some long time friends visit and they have just announced their 3rd pregnancy, I am happy for them, but soooooo jealous its not funny, we started TTC two years before them!
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