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Topic: Soy milk/Neocate/Neocate advanced - help! Posted: 13 October 2008 at 5:43pm |
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Posted: 13 October 2008 at 6:51pm |
Yes you can buy neocate but it is really expensive, I think $85 a tin and the tins are half the size of standard formula tins.
The other thing you could try is giving rice milk instead of soy, I'm not sure how old your DS is but our paed wanted Spencer to be on neocate until at least 18 months (he's not breastfed though) because the soy and rice milks aren't great subsitutes for milk for infants/toddlers.
Could you see a different paed?
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Posted: 13 October 2008 at 7:05pm |
Hi Soph,
I am due to get another script of Neocate within the next few weeks. I can give you a couple of tins if you want to try it. I will e-mail you when I get it.
Did you ever hear back from the hospital??
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Posted: 13 October 2008 at 7:44pm |
2girlsandaboy wrote:
Hi Soph,
I am due to get another script of Neocate within the next few weeks. I can give you a couple of tins if you want to try it. I will e-mail you when I get it.
Did you ever hear back from the hospital?? |
Yes, we are see dietician called michelle? on this friday. Will she able to prescribe me neocate instead of pead dr? I hope so....
For OP's question, my DS2 is 13months old, so look like rice milk is out of question.
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Posted: 13 October 2008 at 7:52pm |
No sorry, a dietitian can't write the script, but depending on how the hospital works they may be able to advise the Paed that Neocate be prescribed, and it's the Doc who needs to apply to the MOH for a special authority number to allow you to buy Neocate at the subsidised price. And that can take time. They should be able to get it done in a day or 2 if the Doc marks it as 'urgent', but ours was and it still took weeks because someone lost the paperwork on their desk!!
I've asked a couple of chemists if we could buy any at the full price without a script (desperate situation where Ella suddenly self-weaned from breastmilk while we were on holiday, and I'd only bought enough Neocate to mix with her solids!), and they both said no, that you need a script to even order it in.
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Posted: 13 October 2008 at 7:59pm |
We were licky here that one local chemist had several kids on it, and always had tins at the chemist that they would give us if the script ran out etc, then we just took the new one in when we got it. This was Pepti Jr tho, not Neocate- but still on special authority.
Hopefully u have some luck with the dietician.
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Posted: 13 October 2008 at 8:35pm |
Im assuming that Michelle works in the same area as the dietician that we see. She organised the doc to do the script as well as the special authority.
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Posted: 14 October 2008 at 8:25am |
Sorry had very bad migraine after my last post That how much interrupted nights taken tolls on me dealing with him in last two week as well as last night. Hope pead dr is supportive today when she is due to reply back to my email
Tania, I just reread his note it is Melaine, not michelle (blame migraine )
Thanks mamas for all of your helps, I know now got ideas, may have long battle ahead...(I will remember your offer Tania if fail )
Also I have took photos of his hands and legs this morning while it is at "all calm before storm" he just had brekfast of porridge with soy milk and I can see reddish start to showing but not too bothering him yet....it was afternoon drink will put him over the edge. I will take photo this afternoon.
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Posted: 14 October 2008 at 10:20pm |
It was bad mistake to give him soy milk for breaskfast this morning...I did end up taking him to dr because he was such in state, very distressed, won't stop scratching his legs and hands and eczema was in angry red state. I rang nurse for an advice and was told to bring him in. Dr saw his eczema and listen to me about soy and pead dr then ask lots of questions about history etc. He had prescribe stronger steriod cream as DS need it to bring it under control temporary and Dr have wrote letter to pead dr urgently to sort DS's hypoallergenic milk out asap...I feel so afterward that I broke down at dr!
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Posted: 16 October 2008 at 2:20pm |
Update, after few calls between GP and pead dr as well as few emails from me including photos of before and after. Dr surgery just contacted me that milk will be sort out tomorrow via dietician's. I can't relax till I will get script for milk on my hand, but I wondering what milk will be? neocate?
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Posted: 16 October 2008 at 2:35pm |
That's great news. If its not neocate it might be pepti junior, however neocate make a toddler formula so it might be that one that they give you.
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Posted: 16 October 2008 at 2:35pm |
Hey Soph,
How exciting, you finally seem to be getting somewhere!! I'm not sure what the script will be for, they tried us on Pepti Junior before the Neocate but he reacted to that so the switched him onto Neocate.
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Posted: 16 October 2008 at 8:23pm |
Andie wrote:
No sorry, a dietitian can't write the script, but depending on how the hospital works they may be able to advise the Paed that Neocate be prescribed, and it's the Doc who needs to apply to the MOH for a special authority number to allow you to buy Neocate at the subsidised price. And that can take time. They should be able to get it done in a day or 2 if the Doc marks it as 'urgent', but ours was and it still took weeks because someone lost the paperwork on their desk!!
I've asked a couple of chemists if we could buy any at the full price without a script (desperate situation where Ella suddenly self-weaned from breastmilk while we were on holiday, and I'd only bought enough Neocate to mix with her solids!), and they both said no, that you need a script to even order it in. |
yeah and we couldn't even find a chemist that stocked it or would get it in either:(
they generally(but not always) try people on pepti junior first... ?hope it's getting sorted for you
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Posted: 16 October 2008 at 8:23pm |
Just email back from pead dr, she gave to my DS' dietician a script to be collect for Pepti junior (AAARRRGGGGHHHHH)
I already told her that he reacted to Pepti junior but she is off tomorrow so can't get her to change milk.
Do dietician have authority to change the milk?
Where this emoticons that do head-banging onto wall?? I feel like this.
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Posted: 16 October 2008 at 8:32pm |
Oh Soph - poor you - sounds like you are having a nightmare!!
I wouldnt think that dieticians have the authority to change milk but where did you see the pead dr?? Maybe another doctor working in the same place can help you get a new script tomorrow.
I have not ordered my Neocate yet but even if I order it tomorrow it wont be delivered till Monday - which does not help you over the weekend - Sorry
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Posted: 16 October 2008 at 8:44pm |
2girlsandaboy wrote:
Oh Soph - poor you - sounds like you are having a nightmare!!
I wouldnt think that dieticians have the authority to change milk but where did you see the pead dr?? Maybe another doctor working in the same place can help you get a new script tomorrow.
I have not ordered my Neocate yet but even if I order it tomorrow it wont be delivered till Monday - which does not help you over the weekend - Sorry |
Same hospital where a dietician is good ideas, I will try ask melanie to ask other pead dr for me, fingers and toes crosses...
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Posted: 17 October 2008 at 9:06am |
they can do it urgently Maya said over 24 hours if necessary ..sorry didnt read anywhere in your post that he had reaction to Pepti? why would they try him on it if he is? the script number is the same so the paed can just change it and let biolab know..
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Posted: 17 October 2008 at 7:32pm |
Saw dietician and gave me a tin of neocate He will try a cup of neocate tonight. My children is already got well-balanced diet but eat lots than usual amount for their ages, so I got it right then
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Posted: 17 October 2008 at 8:23pm |
Yeah Soph hopefully that works for you. We were at the hospital today - they told me to try DS on Soy - Bad Idea!! We have a very sick, very red little boy. Back onto Neocate
Let me know how you get on
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Posted: 17 October 2008 at 9:23pm |
ugh 2girls and a boy..why do the docs not know what they are talking about ..annoys me:( i think it was 25% of dairy allergy allergic to soy..it's one of the 6 food groups we have to avoid atm!!:(
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