Mountain Buggy or Phil & Teds

Don't have time to write but, I wis hwe went for a moutain buggy. We have a valco and I hate it.

GO phil and Teds!!! wooo!, lol. If you have a look there have been a heap of posts on buggies, especially ones about double buggies, in which there is plenty of dicussion on the pros and cons of the phil n teds buggy (mostly by me..lol. )

good luck in your decision

I prefer mountian buggy. I personally don't like the double seating arrangements and I'm aware of people have issues with the buggy tipping over if there is a child in the back but not the front. Of course this wouldn't be an issue for you but something to think about. I personally was also not a fan of the open back when it's in it's lie flat mode and a friend of mine found she kept hitting the back of it when walking! (and she is NOT tall by a long shot).

I've personally found our mountian buggy fabulous. We got the carry cot attachement for when Maddie was younger and found in invaluable and convient as we could also use it for a cot when visiting (and still do). It's been easy to use, I've found it light weight, easy to get up and down and very safe and secure. Also last I heard was the Mountian Buggy still out rates all others according the consumer reports.

One thing I'd look for is whether there is any difference with putting it in/out of the car (weight, size, etc) for walking up town. We have a very sturdy buggy but it's such a pain lifting it in and out because it's so heavy and bulky.

We have children 19 months apart (and 17-18mos next gap) so the toddler seat attachment we have is AWESOME! Even 3yo's legs get tired so it's a great option. I would go for that over a newborn attachment as that won't last you for long and if the P&T's needs more padding for a newborn you can just bulk up blankets. Also I find pushchairs really come in handy after the baby gets too heavy to carry around, the first couple of weeks s/he's always feeding anyway so prams really come in handy after the newborn stage has almost passed.

That's what we did find with the phil n teds is it folds down nice and flat and doesn't have heaps of levers to make it fold down.. which is good, considering i can never work those things. Another thing is it's good to clean, everything comes off the frame and you can hose it down and chuck it on the line and it dries in no time.

Wow, thanks everyone for such quick replies!!
And thanks for the welcome, I have been lurking around for a while, but this is my first post!

Tigs

Mike used to work for an electronics retailer, they would come in with a checklist and essentially just ask for the information. Bit one was for cordless phones, they rated one the highest, 2 weeks later it was on a quality control check and pulled from the shelf as it didn't work properly, never to be returned again.

Essentially they often don't fully test the product, relying on the information provided by the retailer and manufacturer.

That said, they did say for the pram one they gave different prams to 2 different families (I think it was 2) and asked them to test the ones they were given. I personally feel that a bigger sample would have been better. Their complaint about the P&T was that the lever to colapse it seemed broken (the plastic part was broken partly off from memory), however if you received a pram like that no one would accept it, and it would be returned for a replacement!

Oh and on the P&T, they offer great after sales service, my workmate used hers for 1 year and walked everywhere to the point the tyres were worn out, so she called to to ask where to buy new ones, they sent her a new set free of charge and they arrived the next day!

I have just seen how close I am to 1000 posts!!!

It came out sometime in 2005, and didnt mention modern cloth options - only compared several types of disposables with old fashioned cloth/pins/covers. So not at all well researched - all they needed to do was an internet search for cloth nappies in NZ and they would have had heaps

To be honest i wished i had looked more into prams if i had i would have gotten the phil and teds for the option to add the toddler thingee. Its all good tho if we have another i will get one but could have saved myself alot of hassle by getting it first lol