Neocate & Pepti Junior

Guest_41832 wrote: Hi there, I her Paed not worried about the refusing to drink because she isn't actually ill.

Easy for them to say!!!!

Does bubs have reflux? Sometimes feed refusal can occur with reflux babies as they start to associate the bottle with pain.
Other than that, I haven't really got any answers, I'm sorry.
Have you tried a different bottle or teat? Maybe you might be able to trick her that way?

Have you started solids? My boy has reflux and isn't a fan of his milk. So when he's had enough milk from the bottle, I mix the rest of it with farex and get it into him that way. "Bottle in a bowl"

Good luck though. Stressful stuff.

Hi guest, I feel your pain, my baby has been refusing for about 3 weeks, he's just got on to neocate but luckily he will drink it. But he still screams when the bottle comes near because I think he thinks it's going to hurt him.

My boy loves solids though so when he won't drink I just give him more solids and some water from a cup, on the paeds advice. Have you tried a range of different solids? I find if he wont drink I give some solids then try again and he'll usually take it afterwards.

Would she take it from a little cup? Maybe the association is bottle=pain like erin said. My bub often has water from a little medicine cup and he likes that

How long has she been on the losec? Might need longer to work?

OK so I had REAL trouble with my boy. Not with Neocate but with other formulas (I guess because he was allergic) Here is what helped me take other formulas

*Small amount of golden syrup ON THE TEAT and in the bottle (which your doing)
*We switched from avent to tommee tippee closure to nature (I think he loved his brstfeeding)
*On days where he wouldn't have much, we would top up with water of with water/juice from puree apple or pear, we always froze the water from pureeing fruit so he had HEAPS of iceblocks with a mesh bag.

Feeding times become such a horrible time for them, you need to turn it into a positive. Put on some nice music, hold baby in against your chest with a book infront of you. Our bubs always drank way more while I was reading a nice story.

You can help bubs like a bottle by putting an empty bottle in the cot for them to play with, and playing games with a bottle of water. Like flicking the teat with your finger to make a sound, then their finger, then flick their lips to make the sound.

Feed small amounts often rather then large amounts.

THE OTHER THING is, if she is teething, that can REALLY put them off their bottles. You could try a frozen Neocate/apple puree mix as it soothes gums, then you know she's getting something in. Also, is anyone in the family really good at getting her to take a bottle?

My boy wouldn't drink his milk if it was a degree to cold or hot, it had to be PERFECT temperature awell!

we just had another total bottle refusal at her lunch feed. I made sure she was hungry & then she took the bottle fine, sucked about 3 times pulled off & totally refused anything. Couldn't even get her to drink some water, even 2 hours after her feed was due. She was crying for the whole 2 hours like a grizzly hungry cry, but as soon as I put the bottle near her she would either push it away or just refuse to suck or cry off it. I syringed some water in her mouth. I tried to syringe some formula but she wouldn't swallow it. She has been on losec since she was 2 months old & she takes it with a bit of pureed fruit in the morning 1/2 hour before bottle. About 3 weeks ago she just started drinking less & less & it always seems like a fight to get her to drink. Now she is just totally refusing. Very frustrating & stressful for both me & her dad. Somedays it will even get to the point that all you have to do is sit her on your lap in feeding position & she starts howling. Really knocks your confidence!

would be nice to have some good support, but everyone round here just seems to think I am over reacting & saying stuff like 'thats just how babies are sometimes'! Does me head in sometimes. All my other friends had babies practically at the same time, & theirs are all normal perfect breasfeeding babies that they can take anywhere. We try to go anywhere & she won't sleep in the capsule & generally will cry at some point & then she won't drink very much when we are out etc etc. So it has been a very hard 5 months & only seems to be getting worse. We are going to see the GP later this arvo. Don't think he will be much help but Paed told me to get her checked. will keep you informed

no we only introduced the solids at the start of this week to try & get some more nutrients into her. As of now 9pm she has only drank 300 mls. I managed to get 100mls into her while she was asleep. She is so grizzly & I can't get her to sleep 2nite. She hasn't been refluxing at all either. GP not worried. Says she will drink when she wants to & to just give her a bottle of water, & that babies won't starve themselves. I tried to explain to him that she won't drink anything out of the bottle, but he can't have been listening to me or something. I made up some farex with a couple of teaspoons of fruit puree & about 20mls of formula & she ate that ok & it is a lot more than she would normally have as we have only just started solids, but is seemed to curbed her hunger for a while. Just keep plodding on I spose!

What sort of bottle are you using?

I found with normal bottles, I had advent, that he wouldn't drink it. I changed to a cheap bottle/teat like this teat and he drunk it. I tried one from the $2 shop cause I wasn't going to go to a huge expense at first.

I don't know why he liked it over the advent? Maybe the milk gets into the mouth further back than the sweet taste buds??

Ohhhhhh I just had a thought.

I don't give neocate full strength. He gets 7 scoops instead of 8 per 170ml of water & I worked him up to that to see his tolerance level(i started at half strength), he still won't drink it at full strength 6 months on. It does say on the container that the strength can be adjusted so maybe drop back one scoop for every bottle & see how she goes?

yay for 2 bottles! Awesome!