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    Posted: 10 December 2008 at 4:15pm
Does anyone have any healthy food/snack ideas for little ones who are both Dairy and Gluten Free? I do the corn cruskits and the rice crackers, toast, cooked veges, fruit .. but always doing the same thing must get boring. I need quick easy ideas!

Youngest is 15mths and I obviously can't make him little sandwiches and things because all Gluten Free bread seems either dry and/or crumbly??... Would love some ideas on this?? Also why do doctors think you are talking a load of C%$P when you tell them your kids are intolerent to certain things?

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I can't think of anything off the top of my head but check out www.mfd.co.nz it's an invaluable resource.

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The allergy nz cook book has useful recipes. Also nzhealthy food guide website has gluten free recipes.
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my girlfriend does gluten free, and she was saying new world have an awesome selection of gluten free stuff


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woolworths and pak'n'save have a good selection too but with all the supermarkets it differs from store to store.
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Originally posted by Mischeif Mischeif wrote:

Also why do doctors think you are talking a load of C%$P when you tell them your kids are intolerent to certain things?



Is this dr is *cough* work at chch's hospital??? If yes, join the club...

I am having problem regards to my youngest who is also 15months old and is allergic to milk but showing problem with wheat.....

I just give him different nibbles each days, rice crackers, orgran biscuits, fruits like grapes, apples etc. AllergyNZ cooking book got fantastic recipes like banana muffins, got no egg, milk soy and wheat/gluten, ideally for my family's multi-allergies.

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I'm gluten-free. What you have listed sounds about right, it's sure a pain at times! There are also some Orgran brand biscuits that I can get from my local bin inn which are gluten & dairy free; their primary ingredient is chick pea flour but they actually tasted pretty good! Dried fruit would be a good thing to keep on hand in your pantry, especially when you can't be bothered baking again. As for bread - ugh I prefer making a pizza base but can your child have cheese?

As far as the GP goes, why don't you leave dairy and gluten in the child's diet for another month, then get a blood test to show antibodies? Then you can find out once and for all. Also, I don't think dairy intolerance is common; more often dairy allergy or lactose intolerance. Don't quote me on that though, I'm just a gluten expert
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You can bake stuff and substitute with rice flour and rice milk.

Dairy free snacks we have rice crackers, plain or with hummus or soy cream cheese. Cornthins are a good option and the plain/original ones are gluten free. Popcorn, just pop your own using rice bran oil or similar. Organ have lots of stuff that bin inn stock and so do most supermarkets now, just they all tend to keep them in different places. Soy yoghurt. Signature range make casava crisps that are great. Enviro kids make a rice bubbly type bar that is dairy and gluten free. Healtheries make rice rounds, they do plain ones which would be dairy and gluten free and also flavoured, but one is cheese, the other is bbq but not sure might have gluten.
Check out organic shops too as they generally carry gluten/dairy/soy/egg free stuff.
You could try little one on rice bread as well, my son ate that for a while as he was gluten free until allergy tested at 1, I thought it was gross but he didn't care and scoffed it down.
The other thing you can do is put something like pureed apple on it and then that softens it up and makes it a bit more appealing. Or instead of butter use a little olive oil.

I would also highly recommend seeing Rodney Ford if you are able to afford to. Initial appointment is $275, but I honestly couldn't recommend him highly enough. He is a paed and an allergy specialist. The appointment lasts 45 mins and includes skin prick testing and if necessary he will refer baby for bloods too to check the gluten one out.
Plus once a doc has verified that your child is allergic then you can claim the child disability allowance which is about $40 a week, so that soon adds up and pays for the extra expense of buying organic or more expensive things like soy yoghurt and paying to see people like Rodney.

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Hey thanks everyone you are all being so helpful...

Busymum - Apparantly it is called Cows milk protein intollerance (not being able to digest the proteins in Cows milk) But obviously the are affected by all things dairy as they all contain the proteins.

Also My youngest 15mths who cannot have dairy or gluten suffers from really bad stomach pains if he has them, if I put it back in the diet it means waking in the night screaming inconsolably for a good hr or so. This still happens as he has recently something accidently.

I'd rather not reintroduce it just for a blood test and see him suffer, and its great now that he sleeps through the night not having it. I just need to make sure he is getting enuf of the right things and I hate giving him 'bad' snack food..!

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Another thought... have you and your DH ever had tests for intolerances for either of those? Gluten intolerance is the highest genetic food issue in NZ so chances are that one of you are running on half-full as well.
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The dairy one will be an allergy to the cow's milk protein. An allergy is an immune response, so basically the body attacking it. Lactose intolerance is a deficiency in the enzyme needed to break down lactose which is the sugar in milk.

Is such a bummer when they have allergies, but thankfully most grow out of them pretty quickly. Not sure about the gluten as thankfully that is one that my boy is ok with.
My friends little boy has been diagnosed as gluten intolerant and the doc told her you don't need to replace gluten as it's not an essential food.

What does your boy have for milk though? is he still breastfed? Just rice milk or soy milk isn't a good enough substitute and you should really find out about getting him onto the specialist formula (if not breastfed that is). My boy is 18 months and is still on it at least until we see allergy doc again in may. Only thing is that gp's can't get the authority number for it you need to see a paed, so you can either get referred on the public system or just pay to go privately if your gp isn't co-operating.

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Just a random question - was anyone elses child who is allergic to Dairy and Gluten born prem??
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My girls were born at 35weeks and Eimear has dairy and wheat intolerances.

I'm sure it's to do with the prematurity of the stomach. Funny thing is Aoife was small for dates but she had outgrown her dairy intolerance. (I had to be dairy/wheat free when BFing them both)

However DH has wheat intolerance as well and is actually getting tested for Coeliacs Disease next month.
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E has cow milk protein allergy too and is limited till one at least.. for snacks he loves cassava chips(blue plain packet) and the orgran biccies..they taste ok actually:) we can only find them at our local new world but pak and save sometimes has them.
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I had to eliminate dairy from my diet with #1 and yes he was prem (34wks) #2 was born at 38wks and had to eliminate both dairy and gluten... after 5mths of not eating gluten with #2 I have realised that was what was causing my continual sore eyes and sinus problems. Now everytime I eat it I know about it. Cows Milk Protein Intolerence (as the paed called it) is very common in African Asian and Melanesian, my DH is Melanesian, although he has no problems himself. Apparently the kiddies will be able to have things with dairy in it eventually but will probably never be able to have a glass of milk or an ice cream - according to the specialist.

As for Gluten my gp has apparently referred him twice but no response so far.

My boys drink Rice milk - I also add Flax Magic, all the omegas (3,6 & 9?) in a formulation especially for kids.
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