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Topic: 60 minutes Posted: 09 November 2009 at 8:52pm |
So what do you all think of the teacher who posed for playboy?
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Posted: 09 November 2009 at 8:57pm |
I think she should still be allowed to teach, especially when you hear of the types that are still registered and what they had been up to. I am sure there are a lot of teachers out there (rest of the world) that have posed for such magazines.
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Posted: 09 November 2009 at 8:58pm |
I think its her own business. The pics din't seem to be very graphic. I'm sure some other teachers get up to much worse in their spare time
I don't see why that should stop her from teaching.
Its only nudity !!!!
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Posted: 09 November 2009 at 8:58pm |
I wondered if someone would ask this. I wouldn't want her teaching my kids and I don't think she should be teaching at all. Now I am gonna run for cover as I think I will prob be only one who feels this way
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Posted: 09 November 2009 at 9:07pm |
Henna I agree with you, Im not a prude or anything and my husband would like her to be Jaydens teacher! but I wouldnt want her teaching my child, I am a professional and am a member of two professional bodies and have certain ethics to adhere too (written in the professional institutes that I belong to code of conduct) and believe that there is perhaps a certain level of expectation / standards that such professions (that people look up to like teachers, police etc) should adhere to.
In saying that I will be looking on the teachers professional body website when Jayden goes to school to make sure his teachers arent those that didnt get struck off for those incidents worse than her pics!
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Posted: 09 November 2009 at 9:13pm |
I was trying to figure out why I was uncomfortable and finally after thinking about it long and hard I did.
Its nothing to do with her at all - its my DH. I don't want him looking at naked pics of anyone we know. I'm all for it when he is fantasizing about someone unattainable like Angelina Jolie for example, but not so comfortable when its a teacher he sees every day, or our neighbour or someone he knows at work, kwim?
So, I'm going to shut my trap and just carry on as usual - who knew I had a jealous streak? he he he
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Posted: 09 November 2009 at 9:46pm |
I don't have a problem with it, provided she isn't teaching teenage boys who are likely to see it. An 8 year old or whatever isn't going to know about Playboy (well, they shouldn't!!) so it wouldn't be an issue in the classroom. DH agrees with me. If she was in a porn film however, I would probably feel differently!!
I do find it hilarious that Steve Crow has a problem with it though.
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Posted: 09 November 2009 at 10:26pm |
I think my issue with it is ditto to you Azza, but also, I believe her partner is a pornographer? I'm just not sure those two professions fit nicely side by side. Correct me if I am wrong
Good on her for standing up for herself though I guess.
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Posted: 10 November 2009 at 8:07am |
I think I sit in the middle...I don't think she should be struck off but I don't support her. It did come up in the interview the rule about not bringing her profession into disrepute which she did really with those pictures so she did do something wrong.
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Posted: 10 November 2009 at 8:27am |
I have a problem with it. Shes in a position of responsibility and there should be standards.
I also wouldn't want someone who has shown such a lack respect for herself to be teaching my child since I want people in authority over my kids to adhere to the same standards I'm trying to develop in them.
If she has such a lack of judgement in that area what else could she decide to do that might in fact affect her pupils?
ETA I also find it funny that Steve Crow has a problem with it
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Posted: 10 November 2009 at 9:09am |
What I find really funny - is her and Steve Crow together in the first place?! Like when they were doing the photoshoot and he kissed her and said love you - it just seemed all creepy and stuff!
I mean shes attractive and hes obviously a lot lot older?
ETA - I wonder if the school would have even found out about it if she wasnt Steve Crows fiance?
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Posted: 10 November 2009 at 9:40am |
I don't think she should be struck off but if I had an 8 year old girl in her class, I would pull her out. I just remember how much I looked up to my teacher at that age. She was so pretty and so nice, I wanted to be just like her when I grew up.
I believe there are already enough pressures out there for a young girl growing up to think that one of her main roles in society is to visually stimulate men. I really wouldn't want another one in my daughter's life as extreme as this.
I'd probably do the same if I had an 8 year old boy in her class. I can just imagine a group of boys getting hold of the photos and snickering about them in the boys' loos. I'd want my boy to grow up treating women with respect and as equals and I don't think this would be the best start to that.
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Posted: 10 November 2009 at 10:06am |
If she was a good teacher and I was happy with the standard of her teaching then it wouldn't bother me in the slightest. She didn't do anything illegal and what she gets up to in her personal life is her business, I don't see it having any impact on her teaching ability (and if it did, then she wouldn't be a very good teacher so that would be my problem with her).
This all reminds me a bit too much of when I was in school in the late 80s/early 90s and the fuss over openly gay teachers 'influencing' impressionable young children with their deviant ways...
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Posted: 10 November 2009 at 10:16am |
re the gay thing that is totally a different kettle of fish..that's just ignorant people saying stupid things!!!:( !
the only bit i saw was posing for anon photos that ended up getting posted cause she won or something..and then a bit about how he supposedly was going to meet (which started off as someone else then ended up as her) and she thought he was going to cheat..
anyway bad move to be with him in the first place professionally but although i dont see anything wrong with what she did (and I'm not a prude at all) I do agree that when you decide to be a teacher you have to then meet certain standards outside of work..(its hard enough if you are out drinking and see parents!!!) so yeah i dont think she should be allowed to teach..
having said that she's now teaching at her daughters kindy it said in my mag!!!
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Posted: 10 November 2009 at 10:21am |
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having said that she's now teaching at her daughters kindy it said in my mag!!! |
She is. She's my daughters teacher - and a really good one! My eyes popped when I saw her on TV.
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Posted: 10 November 2009 at 10:59am |
Ok basically if you look up the code of ethics for teachers, which you must adhere to to remain registered, she has done something wrong. I also think the other people they mentioned should have been struck off too.
After going through TCol only a couple of years ago, it's drummed into us that stuff like that is a no-go, as you can't exactly be a good role model for girls about body image, self-esteem etc when your posing nude (or semi-nude) so that guys can get their jollys off. That's basically what it comes down to.
I would never have a child of mine in her class at all. I couldn't respect someone who couldn't practice what they preach (not that I'm an angel, but I don't take my kit off and publish it online for all to see, as I'm not an idiot and know what that would mean for my career).
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Posted: 10 November 2009 at 11:44am |
There are so many different influences out there now and so many that aren't positive. Its abit sad to see what society has come to.
I have to say I wouldn't allow an openly gay person to teach my kids either. I'm not a homophobe and I do have gay friends but I don't agree with the lifestyle so I wouldn't want that influence around my kids on a daily, authoritive basis. Thats also why I wouldn't have her teaching my kids - I don't agree with her decision morally or ethically.
Our children base their values on the decisions of the adults around them so I want to be extremely careful who I allow to have influence over them. If that means being un-PC or 'biased' in the eyes of some people so be it.
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Posted: 10 November 2009 at 12:14pm |
Babe wrote:
I have to say I wouldn't allow an openly gay person to teach my kids either. I'm not a homophobe and I do have gay friends but I don't agree with the lifestyle so I wouldn't want that influence around my kids on a daily, authoritive basis. Thats also why I wouldn't have her teaching my kids - I don't agree with her decision morally or ethically. |
If I had to only have my kids taught by someone who follows the same lifestyle and ethics that I do then I'd have to homeschool
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Posted: 10 November 2009 at 12:22pm |
Haha thats true (I was homeschooled btw ) but while I don't expect teachers to have exactly the same lifestyle/ethics as me I do expect them to be in the same ballpark. Not a big ask I don't think :shrug: doesn't mean I'd never socialise with people like her (I know Steve Crow myself ) and I certainly wouldn't go overboard about not allowing my kids to know people like that on a casual basis, but I wouldn't allow them to be in a role-model position.
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Posted: 10 November 2009 at 2:49pm |
I certainly have a problem with the whole thing, and I am a teacher. We as teachers are not supposed to undertake in anything which could bring our profession into disrepute. What she did - does bring the profession into disrepute - and I can see why the matter is under investigation. I can't understand why she didn't think it would be a problem getting the photos taken - I mean - "hello!". You are supposed to be setting standards for your students and be a good example of modelling "decent" behaviour. We as teachers have a commitment to our learners; to parents & guardians; to society; and to the profession - to uphold these four fundamental principles. Posing for Playboy doesn't somehow fit into those principles!
If my children were in her class, I would have pulled them out too - like other Mum's in this forum.
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