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princesssparkly
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Topic: Low sperm count? Posted: 27 February 2011 at 4:22pm |
my DH has just got his results from his sperm count. We have been ttc for 20 months after mc. He said that it is not too bad but from what i have read it is not fantastic either......4 million per ml
"normal is 20 million per ml" the dr did say that the sample was healthy so that is good. I have an apt with my GP tomorrow and will ask to be referred to Fertility Associates :-(
We did get pregnant this time two years ago so hopefully it will happen again soon. I am getting very impatient!
Dr has recommended Menovit. I have tried not to make too many suggestions to DH as i think he has taken the news hard.
Has anyone eles partners had a similar result?
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trouble06
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Posted: 27 February 2011 at 5:56pm |
Hi we have MFI - so we need to do IVF ISCI - my DH has aso been taken menevit for last 2 months - will be interesting to see if it makes a difference.
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princesssparkly
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Posted: 27 February 2011 at 6:43pm |
Hi Trouble06 sorry for my naivety what is MFI?
I hope that the Menevit has worked for your DF :-)
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Posted: 27 February 2011 at 7:17pm |
I believe its Male Factor Infertility (or something along those lines!)
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princesssparkly
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Posted: 27 February 2011 at 8:19pm |
Oh that makes sense. Thanks _Waiting_ :-)
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louloubell
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Posted: 27 February 2011 at 10:00pm |
Hi Princessparkly
Has your DH has a virus or flu lately? Sometimes that can affect the sperm count? My DH had swine flu and his count basically halved by 50%!! Apparently, it can return up to normal within 4-5 mths.
We are just about to try ICIS after years of trying - my DH went through the sperm analysis once again but this was done at the Fertility associates Lab and his sperm was tested for MAR - mixed antiglobulin reaction.
I wish we got tested for this early on It confirmed a positive result for my DH - the other sperm tests DO NOT pick this up. Basically, my husband tested 41% MAR - this means 41% of his sperm are not effective because it carries an antisperm antibody. The sperm clump together therefore making conception unlikely except through IVF/ICSI.
My DH started taking Menovit a month ago - it will be interesting to see how his count is on the day we do egg collection
All the best princesssparkly, I hope you get have a good appt with FA - they are great and will guide you in the right direction.
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Posted: 28 February 2011 at 8:47am |
Hi princesssparkly and the rest!
My DH also has very low count, around 1 ml!! We are now with Repromed and will be doing IVF with ICSI in March/April.
In terms of Menevit, it is not supposed to increase count unfortunately. My DH has been taking it for almost three months and had done sperm tests before and during taking the Menevit and there was no improvement. He was a bit surprised as we both thought it might at least make a small difference...but when we talked to our fertility specialist at Repromed he advised that Menevit will make the sperm healthier, but not increase count. He highly recommends taking it as it means that if you are doing IVF or any other protocols (or lucky enough to still get pregnant naturally!) you have better chances of having a healthy embrio and less chances of miscariage as the sperm would've been the healthiest it can be. If you think ...you need a healthy egg and a healthy sperm to make a healthy baby. So us girls take all sorts of vitamins and supplements, drugs and injections and the rest...and might still have to go through ART to get that baby! Well the guy needs to do the same... do everything possible to increase the health of his sperm.
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louloubell
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Posted: 28 February 2011 at 1:25pm |
Wow, I thought Menevit increased sperm count! That is what I was lead to believe anyway! Thanks SunshineWife learnt something new today! All the best for your ICIS in March/April
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Posted: 28 February 2011 at 7:16pm |
DH count is 4mil and we needed to do ICSI for DS and the one on the way. We were never told that it might work naturally unfortunately (maybe because of our ages). Menevit increases sperm quality not quantity...
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Posted: 28 February 2011 at 8:19pm |
Thankyou for all your replies ladies.
No DH has not been ill lately louloubell. But in saying that we have both put on an extra weight in the last year so we are going to work on our weight.
Infact i have decided that i want to loose 15gs. My BMI is 29 and i would love for it to be 25 or under.
I went to see my Awesome GP today he has made the referal to FA I just have to do a few bloods and he suggested that DH has another sample done. I will ring FA tomorrow. My GP advised that we should pay for the inital consultation and see how many points we have and what the waits are from there.
I rang my hubby (who is working away this week) and told him what my GP had said. He mentioned that he had an undecented testical when he was younger so he thinks that he only has one functioning testical! he didnt mention this previously. So perhaps this has something to do with the sperm count?
Thanks SunshineWife and snooze for mentioning that menevi will not increase the quantity just the quality.
DH will be visiting the chemist on payday.
I wish you the best of luck with your ICIS louloubell and Sunshinewife. I look forward to hearing how you both get on.
Snooze that is great ICIS has worked for you twice. I have only just turned 30 and DH is 36 so i guess time is on our side.
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Posted: 02 March 2011 at 12:29pm |
hi everyone, we are also in the same boat with MFI - I too thought that menevit increased count bout then found out it only improves quality.
We are starting our IVF with ICSI in Nov this year, hopefully we will have a good sample on the day and not have to use our frozen sample. We have done 2 samples so far (one they froze and the other wasn't) and the 2nd one was worse than the first one even after taking the menevit.
Good luck to everyone - Is anyone else having IVF round Nov?
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Posted: 02 March 2011 at 12:41pm |
Hi Guys,
DH and I are in the same situation with MFI. DH has less then 1M.
The first appointment we had at F+ was with a great doctor that gave us a lot of advise to help with the low count (no Miracle cure he did remind us). Basically we got told the it takes the swimmers about 3 months to develop therefore we needed to make sure that a minimum of 3 months before we had IVF/ICIS we make sure that we start really looking after both of our bodies. Ie eat healthy, exercise, no excessive heat for DH in that region etc.
Unfortunately for us we have now been through one cycle of IVF/ICIS with 1 BFN and 1 BFP that resulted in a MC at 6 weeks.
The hope however that we did see a small increase in DH's samples since starting on this "we must be healthy kick".
Good luck to everyone and baby dust to all.
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Posted: 02 March 2011 at 4:48pm |
Im so sorry to hear about your heartbreaking MC fozziebear I hope that you get a sticky one very soon.
I have made my apt at FA for the end of the month but got the news that we are not eligable for funding. I burst into tears at work as we have just got married and spend all our $ on the wedding. She did mention that if we tried for 4 years (its been 2 years so far) that we "might" be eligable. Im not entirley convinced that there will even be funding in 2 years time with the state of the country and the economy.
I wish you all the luck in the world Rachb for your Nov round. Perhaps If i win lotto before then i will join you
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Posted: 02 March 2011 at 4:53pm |
princesssparkly - thank you for your kind words. I am surprised on the 4 year wait. I thought that was for unexplained Infertility? Not give up hope yet. After you first consulation you will have a better idea where you stand. With our low sperm count we had to be trying for 1 year and it took a year on the the waiting list. Our public cycle starts this April. I will have by fingers crossed for you that the nurse just had her facts wrong.
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Posted: 02 March 2011 at 4:58pm |
princess...we have MFI with under 4million sperm count and poor motility.
We had only been trying a year when we did our first round of IVF - we did go private.
However, if we didnt - due to the severity of the MFI we would have gone straight on the public waiting list if I meet the BMI requirements. Wait until after you meeting with the doctor. You will have more info then and you may qualify straight away - that being said you could spend up to 2 years on the public list depending on demand.
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Posted: 02 March 2011 at 5:44pm |
Hi Princess- we are dealing with MFI too, I'm suprised to hear you may not qualify for funding.... My DH originally had a count of 2 million(gone down to less than 1 mill on his last SA :( ) and we were put on the waiting list after having tried naturally for a year. Hopefully you will find out more at your appointment and as the others said-maybe they just got it wrong.Best of luck!
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Posted: 02 March 2011 at 6:02pm |
Goodness, I have a very similar story, my DH has less that 2 million count - due to arthritis meds he has been taking over the years. He had to go off all his meds for 3 months before we could start our IVF process publicly. The 3 months he was off his meds was a awful 3 months to watch, but we did manage to get 12 straws of sperm frozen and now he is on a new wonderful medication. 6 months later we did our 1st public round with ICIS which followed by a chemical pregnancy.
I also have endometitis (can never spell it correctly) and mild PCOS to add to our difficulities.
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Posted: 02 March 2011 at 6:04pm |
Hi princess - I think it is odd how you don't get public funding with low sperm count? Don't give up hope till you go to FA clinic! The others are right! Tell them how long you have been trying and how often etc any family history or gyno probs...tell them everything you poss can... ask about the MAR test (extra male sperm test) if that is positive you may be put on the list straight away.... I know this all sux and is frustrating... take a nice long bath tonight with a glass of vino and solider back on tomorrow. This journey is definitely challenging to say the least... but hopefully with the support of this forum and your DH, it makes things a wee bit easier
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Posted: 03 March 2011 at 9:16pm |
Hi ladies.
Sorry i should have mentioned that it is secondary infertility. I have a beaufiul 8 year old princess from a pervious relationship. Because she is under 12 and living it home that knocks me out of funding even if we score maximum medical points. Even though my husband is not her father (just an amazing step-dad).
I do realise that i am very lucky to have a daughter but i would love the opportunity for my husband to have at least one child and a brother or sister for my daughter.
Thank you for all the advice, I did have as hot bath and an early night last night. I have started back at the gym and have sorted out my diet :-)
I will definitely get DHs tested for MAR thanks for the tip louloubelle.
I think i just just shocked that we went from full of hope TTC to getting shocked by the low sperm count and realising that we need serious help all within a few days. I guess it takes a while to accept.
I played vet nurse and helped DH operate on my sisters dog tonight (DH is a vet) we neutering him. I must say i had to laugh at the irony
P.S louloubelle your dog is beautiful
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Posted: 11 March 2011 at 10:20pm |
Just out of curiosity - How many samples do other people have frozen at the moment?
We currently have 1 sample up at FA Hamilton and they have thawed one straw to make sure it was ok.
Does anyone know how many samples you are allowed to have frozen up there under public funding?
Princess Sparkly - i know what you mean about being shocked about needing help to concieve i burst into tears at our first appointment when they told us.
Also does anyone know how far in adavance you need to start preparing for ur IVF and the things you need to do to prepare yourself?
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