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    Posted: 08 November 2006 at 2:20pm
Thought I might start a thread for those of us starting, or dragging heels about starting Operation "Take back the power"...

I started sunday night, I am sooooooo sick of getting up to Jacob 2 or 3 times a night, and him demanding a bottle.

I know it is just a habit, and he proved this to me when I went in to him about 10pm sunday night, gave him a cuddle, and offered him a drink of water in his bottle, instead of a sippy cup (tricking him). He took a couple of sips and said "No, No, Bottle!" and I said to him, "no, Jacob this is your bottle and this is all you are getting" The lil bugger lay right down and went back to sleep, no worries! (usually screams house down if I offer sippy cup..)woke once more, and got he same deal... no worries. Did the same monday night, only woke once, and last night stirred, called out, but went back to sleep instead of crying out! I must admit to using some "mothers little helper" (phenergan) but will try it tonight without....

Fingers crossed!
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good luck. Im trying to get Kobe off his night time bottle, he wont sleep at home without a bottle, sometimes it takes 2 or 3 to get him to sleep and if he doesnt get one he screams and screams till he throws up everywhere and i have to change him and the bed. Thing is he doesnt have a bottle ever at preschool, will just go straight to sleep the little bugger.
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I'm in the process of another Operation (version 10?!?)

This one is dragging itself out and hasn't worked with the usual 3 day rule as we have been away etc. I think I am getting the coming out of the room at bed time thing sorted and have dragged Han's bedtime back to (no later than) 7.30 whereas before it was around 8pm. I think she was getting overtired at that stage and that's why she was such a terror to get to sleep.

Also implementing Operation 'Get out of my bed', but that ones a bit harder to be consistent on as the little monkey creeps into my bed. Providing I have early(ish) nights than I am able to wake and take her back straight away but as soon as I am tired I do the old - I'll just rest my eyes for a second... snore snore snore.

Anyway... tonight is a new night! I am completely resolved to get her out of my bed. (If anyone sees me on here past 10.30pm, I'd appreciate a telling off via post or PM. )

Good luck with the operations tough mummies! You can do it - You are the one with the power!
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Good luck guys!
Its so hard to be consistant when its the middle of the night and you know that giving in will give you sleep, but so worth it in the long run.
We're embarking on operation 'eat your dinner!' shortly. Just need to tweak the plans a little so that Mummy and Daddy both know the rules.
I'm feeling very apprehensive about it, but its gotten past ridiculous, how little she'll eat!
keep us posted on your progress please, I need the inspiration!
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I knew there were a few of us out there... We can all support each other in taking back the power in the house...Now, if it was only as easy to do with the dog...
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Mel, have you tried dishing up one mouthful of meat, potatoes, peas (whatever) and if she finishes all of that she can have more? Depends how fussy vs stubborn she is of course

Nikki I was wondering if you can shut/lock your door so she can't open it?

My difficulty with Hannah at the moment is that she'll wake up between 1 and 4am and come to me because she can't find her doll - who has managed to get under the covers somewhere around her feet. Seems to me the only solution is to teach her how to find her doll? Suggestions anyone? If the 1 yo can sleep through the night, then so can the 2yo and at the moment I sure need a good night's sleep!
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POWER TO THE MUM'S!!!!! Good luck ladies!!

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OK, my mission is to take back the bedtime power. I got slack and have been putting Maya to bed after Shorty St coz she likes watching it (yes I know that in itself is a shocker ) but the last few nights she has dragged bedtime out till after 8.30pm, which means I get bugger all time to myself before the babies are up to be fed.

So tonight she will be in bed before the final credits on Shorty...
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For Maya: video Shorty and edit out adds, play at 6.30pm, kid in bed by 7pm no worries and you all save time!
For busymum: safe-t-sleep on doll!
My issue is toddler to rough with baby sis, despite being to time-out lots and 'knowing' he's not being gentle. Would love to be able to have them in the lounge and be able to move around house without fear of damaged children resulting (dreams are free!) any suggestions?
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I don't know how I did it but Andrew was a breeze coming off the bottle. I did have daycares help with them stopping the bottle during the day which just lead to the one at night going. GOOD LUCK.

Annie - try the we have to put them away now for the new bubba. I have heard of people using that with dummies to gett he older child off the dummy before the 2nd on comes along.

My operation is to get one 2 and 1/2 year old to stay by my side when we are out shopping. Today he ran out of pumpkin patch twice out onto the footpath and down to the crossing (those in Palmy know the one i'm talking about by the entrance to the plaza). I was so angry and I didn't get to finish my shopping, I did lose it but not till we were in the car, when I rang DH in tears getting him home and him to sort Andrew out as I was sure I would lose it again with him. 2 hours later he has calmed down - DH has just gone back to work and is listening to me again, but i'm saving my shopping trips now to when he is at daycare.

I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived!
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yay for taking back the power...

re the dinner thing i dont know if i would make her eat dinner... maybe just start with making her stay at the table during dinner. in our house gabriel quite often wont eat dinner but i do insist he stays at the table and sometimes he eats by accident. also dont forget not to give anything else if she refuses dinner.

shutting the door was the only way we had to get the message to gabriel that we were serious about bed time. if he came out he got put back in and told to stay and warned if he got out again the door would get shut and if he did it again then we would shut the door, of course that meant standing there holding it till he gave up.

re not finding dollie at night i was going to suggest perhaps tying her to the cot or bedhead.

jacobsmama did you manage without the phenergan? i remember when i tried to get toby to stop feeding at night. i started at 11 mths and only now is he sleeping thru... he wasnt really interested in night time booby but he did get addicted to having me standing over him rubbing his back.

and mummybecks if you figure out how to make the 2yr old stay by your side in shops lets me know cause i still cant control the 3yr old from wandering. the other week in pak n save he got out into the underground carpark (and that was with my husband there too). when i think what could have happened...

good luck everyone....

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right i,m joining in here but will be starting tomorrow with get out of mybed and in your own and sleep all night !!!! i,m not looking forward to this but ihave been putting it off
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This is one hot topic!

Medicina, I laughed at the safe-t-sleep - mental image was hilarious! I just found out that she's had an ear infection all week, hopefully once that goes she won't sleep so lightly, we'll see. She did sleep all through last night so here's hoping!

I can't help much with the toddler being rough to the baby sorry, we did (lots and lots and lots of) time out until the point got across. Man, it was so frustrating. We still sometimes have episodes but this time it's over-cuddling lol. How old are your kids?

Becks, how is it that 2yo's can pick the busiest intersection in the city!?! I would suggest a body harness or at least, a wrist strap. If he doesn't like it, it will at least give him incentive to "stay with mum nicely at this shop and I'll take it off at the next one" or something. Hannah is fortunately very good with outings because moving vehicles freak her out somewhat!

All the best to us...
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Busymum - Little toad can open her door (damn low, pull-down door handles), I have tried removing it but it looks like you need an engineering degree to get it off (or a screwdriver - but they were all the way in the garage! )

Last night my bloody sister put Hannah in HER bed. I'd just put monkey to bed after she'd woken up screaming because it was all dark etc and then she tried to creep into my bed when I busted her, so she threw herself on the ground and cried. My sis came out (damn well naked... strange thing to see at 1am!) and picked up Han and took her back to bed with her (as Gaz had gone out drinking for the night).

I woke up in the morning and Jute asked (all indignant and stuff) "Do you know where Hannah slept last night?" I replied "Of course" and then Jute said "In MY bed! I just woke up and she was staring at me... she must have just climbed in." Mmmhmmmmm. Damn her and her sleep walking. Altho... better her than me If I can train Han to go to her and Gaz's bed rather than mine, then they'll be the ones who have to put her back to her own bed!
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lol good plan nikki love it hhahahaha now today is the day power to the mummys lol am going to do the back in your bed plan but i have two questions 1-what time is a good time for a one and a half year old to go to bed at nihgt and 2-when he wakes at night what do i do just put him back own or what
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Medicina - loving your idea! Now I just have to figure out how to work my video player...

Failed miserably last night. In bed at 8.20pm. Screamed about wanting to watch Nanny 911 (???? ) and I was too busy juggling babies to argue.

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maybe you could tell maya that if she doesnt get in bed when you tell her then the next night it will get earlier and she wont get to watch anything... and turning off the tv might help too - i have to do that to gabriel if he is stuck starting at it and wont move.

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Lu, I think Jake was going to bed between 6:30 and 7 at that age. My boys have always been really early going to bed though - and really really early to rise. 5;30am - shudder.
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Briona (16mos) sleeps from 6.30 or 7pm through to 7am or a bit later. She doesn't wake in the night anymore but when she did (in recent times), it was just because she was cold and needed covers re-tucked in. I found that if I cuddled her or anything extra like that it just made it harder for her to settle down.

Back in the day when she was waking for extra feeds (which she didn't need), I would give her a quick cuddle, say it's still night time, good night, tuck her back in and walk out without looking back.

Nikki - I guess you'll have to put a lock on the inside of your bedroom door or maybe the outside of Hannah's - of course you'll need to use a screwdriver for that though And seeing my sister naked?!?
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I like the lock on my door idea. Then it doesn't just shut out Hannah, I get to escape from everyone!!!

And my sister being nakie isn't entirely unusual... just didn't expect the combination of nakieness and taking my tantruming toddler away from me at 1am! hehe

As far as the operation is going... not working brilliantly. I am fulfilling my end of the bargain and putting Han back to bed whenever she comes out (gosh it's hard dragging yourself out of a nice warm bed!!) but she has figured that she can go to Gaz and Jute's bed. So she slept with them from about 3.30am.

I might have to put the gate back up on their door. Damnit.

My diagnosis for Han coming out of bed is that she's starting to get a bit frightened of the dark/being alone and all quiet. She hasn't just been coming to my bed lately, she's been screaming in her room until I drag my butt in there. Must get a nightlight.
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