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    Posted: 21 February 2009 at 7:49am
Jackson is waaaaay more spilly on the Neocate, and I think this is putting him off his food.

Has anyone thickened Neocate? How did you do it?

Last time we tried Gaviscon he got really badly constipated very quickly. What about the Karicare food thickener? I know that there can be traces of milk protein in it, but I think J's issue is intolerance more than allergy, so perhaps a little would be ok?

At this stage, the Neocate does not seem to be working well for us but I want to rule out the spilliness as the cause. It has increased significantly since starting Neocate.
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i would talk to your paed about it.... i definitely wouldn't thicken it at all but ring your paed and follow their advice.
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I hadn't heard about thickening it. Like foxxy-one said, I'd talk to your specialist. Has Jackson been tested for a milk allergy? If Jackson has a milk allergy you definitely don't want to be exposing him to milk protein.

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You don't have to use the thickener in the formula, it can be given as a gel before a feed as well.
Just looking at the ingredients on my can and it only has Maltodextrin, Starch (from Maize) and Carob bean gum. I guess the risk of it having a milk protein content would come only from it being produced in the same factory as the formula, I would think it would be a small risk.
The instructions say you can thicken special formulas with the food thickener but that you should consult your doctor first.
Kiwilaurie, does Jackson still spill undigested milk hours after his feed as well?
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Yeah, he does. He is always spilling. It's a little harder to tell on the neocate as it is so thin anyway, but it doesn't look digested.

Why's that?

Have you had much luck with the thickener? Did it make Isobelle constipated?
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I just wondered because I was looking at that breast is best unless website and there was a story about a baby who had reflux and a lactase deficiency as well. Lactase is the enzyme we use to digest lactose and not having enough of it can cause a lot of pain and reflux.
Just a thought, I go through just about every scenario trying to work out why Isobelle's reflux seems to be getting worse instead of better. It is so confusing though because a lot of the syndromes have symptoms that are exactly the same.

We have used thickener but now use a special allergy and thickened formula, its just easier for me with the two of them. Isobelle is an excessive spiller and so was already constipated before we changed to formula. The thicker milk really helped regulate and rehydrate her. Her poos are very thick, like cake mixture but not that dry, crumbly stuff that constipated babies do, and she does one everyday now instead of every 2 weeks. So for us its a good thing.
If the neocate is really thin it will be very easy for it to come up again, so thickener might be worth a try.
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Is he still upset when he is spilling?
The reason I ask is that when Spencer changed onto neocate he carried on spilling but was no longer in pain or upset by it. I just put up with it and he stopped around 7 months. Was a pain as I always had to carry extra clothes and a blanket to put down at peoples houses but was far better than how he was on the standard formula or the boob.
Some babies are just spilly without it being an actual problem.

Like the others though I wouldn't try to thicken it without having a chat with the paed first.

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