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    Posted: 15 February 2011 at 9:47am
Hi girls

Am looking for some info and suggestions here. Something DH and I have NOT tried yet, and as we are desperate we will try almost anything to get our BFP!

We had a brief consult with a local accupuncturist who apparently specialises in fertility and sne recommends both DH and I have treatments.

Any stories, ideas and comments and most of all sucesses which you think Accupuncture helped!! are all most welcome!
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Hi mtjt,

My hubby and I have both started acupuncture recently. DH has low sperm count so we are on our way to IVF. We go to Vitalis on the North Shore who recommends 2-3 months worth of sessions for husband before the IVF and at least 8 sessions for me. Even if this doesn't result in natural pregnancy I am hoping it will improve DH's sperm so we might not have to do ICSI, and hopefully balance and de-stress me as much as possible. I've heard lots of possible stories so thought we'd give this a go. But it's a bit early to report any improvements. I'd be interested to hear what other girls have to say about this!

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Hi mtjt, which acu did you see?

I have been getting it for about 15 months, and love it - although still no baby so who knows!
It definitely helps me feel better about everything though so it's worth it form that perspective. :)

 
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I am interested to know the same thing mtjt. I did acupuncture, got a BFP but miscarried. I wonder if there is any point in doing it again next time? Would love to hear from those who had succesful pregnancies whether they did it or not.
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Hi guys,

I too would be interested in what people have to say. When DH and I started our first round we looked into this and even went to one session. The guy who did the acupuncture creeped both of us out and we never went back. The first transfer was a BFN however the second FET, still with no acupuncture was a BFP however we MC at 6 weeks.

Like you Poppy I would love to hear what people's thoughts are on acupuncture.
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vitalis IVF acupuncture

Found this on the Vitalis website-check out the graph! And there's plenty more stats and info if you google acupuncture&IVF!
Nothing has a 100% success rate but I definitely think that there's enough success stories out there, and studies on acupuncture&IVF to make it something worth trying...as Roella said-one thing it definitely does is relax you and put you in a good frame of mind so for that reason alone, it has been well worth it for me.

Fozziebear, that's no good you had someone who creeped you out!It's worth finding someone who specialises in fertility/womens health as I would imagine there are a few dodgy ones out there like in any profession.
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Hello again

Thanks heaps to you all for your comments so far.

JaneW - excellent reading!! Well the stats speak for themselves huh..you are right, nothing is guaranteed but i think if theirs a chance of improvement then you have to try...

I had my first ever session today and the accupuncturist was lovely. The needles didnt hurt one bit!! - hey but im so a needle expert now any way - ha ha. I felt quite relaxed and a little bit spacey afterwards.. i spose it did something??

Im going to incorporate some sessions along with vits/supplements etc during the next few months before our next attempt.

DH is going to have some sessions too! Im sure it cant hurt and also may relieve some stress and tension which im sure we all have during this very emotional time..

I hope to hear some more good reports about Acupuncture!!
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Hey mtjt, I am seeing an acupuncturist at the moment in conjunction with my IVF, this will be my third week and I start the injections for IVF on the 1st March. I have heard a few success stories with IVF and acupuncture so I thought I would give it a go. Anything is worth a go right now. we did the whole naturopath thing but didnt conceive naturally, but Im all for giving anything a go that might make our chances slightly higher. I think if it doesnt help us conceive with IVF I think it will be good for my mind and help me de-stress from the whole IVF process. The first two times I too have come out feeling so relaxed & spaced out, so I guess its doin something.
I guess I will find out towards the end of March if it is sucessful or not...... All the best to you x
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I we havent done this but considering seeing a natropath who specialises in fertility to see if it makes any difference to the count. I have heard good things about acupuncture but good always to have an open mind to see if it works etc. Best of luck.
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Girls that are doing acupuncture, how long have you been doing it and are you actually noticing any results?
I've only had three sessions so far but will continue through the next month as we are doing IVF and so I want to do everything to help it.
I haven't noticed too much difference in how I feel though... After the second session I slept really well all week...before that always had trouble falling asleep. So I guess that's a positive! But the other two sessions not sure.... And when I ask my acupuncturist if he is noticing any differences in my pulse/tongue or any other tests he does he says it's too early.... and he doesn't talk much at all..just sort of puts the needles in and leaves...

I have heard lots of good feedback about him though, so am wanting to stick with it.

Just wondering if anyone had really good experience with it though, does your Dr talk you through what they are doing and what's happening to your body; are you noticisng the differences?

Baby dust to all x
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I had acupuncture with vitialis (the link above) as I have pcos and my cycles use to be 47-50 days apart, I had acupuncutre for two cycles and the second cycle was 35 days apart which was a major change and I got my bfp with my ds that cycle, I continued having acupuncture throughout my first pregnancy
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Thanks Kye, I am currently going to Vitalis too and so is my DH. Great to hear from people who have had actual positive outcomes, makes me believe in it so much more!
DH is having another sperm test this Friday, last one was before he started acupuncture and he has had 6 sessions so far so will be interesting to serif it's made any difference yet. I myself am not feeling any different to be honest apart from being quite relaxed after the session... Were you tic for quite a while before starting acupuncture and getting a BFP for your little boy?
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Tiff8ny, can I ask which acupuncturist you go to? Is it vitalis also?
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Hi sunshinewife, I go to Naissance in Albany. They are in the Fertility Associates suites on the Shore in the Apollo Centre. I see Mary Redford. Shes really lovely! Im a bit like you - unsure if its doing anything yet but I do feel nice and relaxed when I come out, I guess I will see if I get my BFP through IVF at the beginning of April!
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Hey Tiff8ny, can I ask how much they charge for a session over at Naissance? And does she tell you much about the process, why she is putting needles where she does, whether it' differs according to the day of your cycle etc? Vitalis doesn't talk much, you really have to prod and ask lots of questions to get anything out of him. Just wonder what your experience is like. Thanks!
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Hey ya.they charge $90 for initial consultation,then it's $70 each time for a 45min-1hour session.I haven't asked her why she puts needles in certain places but I'm sure if I asked she would tell me as she's lovely.It does seem like a weird thing and you wonder if it really works but I have heard some good ivf results done with acupuncture.
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sunshine wife I ttc a year before I got my bfp with my ds but I did have a missed mc before that during that year, I noticed such a difference with my cycles from vitalis they had been 47-50 days apart for that entire year and my second cycle would have been 35 days but got my bfp, he doesnt seem to talk much, but seems to know what hes doing, I live 1 hour north of Auckland and traveled every week to see him and twice a week when was ovulating, all the best for your ttc journey hope you get your bfp soon hun!
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hi everyone
I had IVf and accupunture and it was very successful- first time and the quality of the embryos -

two friends both had failed attempts of ivf the first time and the second time used accupunture and were successful - so a sample size of only 3 but 100%

Im in chch and can recommnend a fabulous woman who knows her stuff - susy tapper in ferrymead
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Hello there! Joining in a bit late, but here's my 2 cents worth which might be of use to people. I wish I'd thought of researching acupuncture before, but basically I had my egg replacement on Wednesday, came home and googled "how to improve chances of implantation", and many websites recommended acupuncture. Apparently there's more benefits if you start doing weekly sessions about 3 months before treatment starts, but I also read that if you have acupuncture within 24hrs of the egg replacement it can increase chances of pregnancy by 65%! Of course, scientifically it's too hard to say whether the success rate is due to the acupuncture or some other factor, but it can't hurt. And of course, as soon as I read this I was on the phone trying to find someone to see me within 24hrs.

Apparently Dr Vitalis is well known and good, but expensive, and I spoke to 2 lovely ladies instead. The first was Dawn Lucia, and although she couldn't see me the next day, unlike Dr Vitalis she agreed that it would be best to find someone who could see me within 24hrs and she recommended another lady (bonus points for her honesty and for recommending someone else - to me that says that she knows what she's doing). The woman I did end up seeing was Angelique Kingsley-Smith, and she was very nice, took a proper history (presumably they all do this, but she said she used to be a nurse, and when I said I had a low ovarian reserve, she wrote down "low AMH" which straight away told me she knew about IVF and ferility problems), and also talked me through everything she was doing and what each needle was meant to be stimulating.

Now I'm in that awful 2 week wait to see whether it has worked or not, and I know I'm going to end up taking a pregnancy test before I do my 2 week blood test, if only to prepare me for the worst!
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Aww Willow, all the best, fx you get the best news soon!!
Thank you for sharing your experience hun!
Can I ask where Angelique is based and how much she is charging?
Did you do IVF or ICSI?

Let us know your result when you find out, I get so inspired by the positive stories here on the forum!

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