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    Posted: 01 February 2007 at 3:39pm
After a brief conversation with ginger we think its a great way to get the ball rolling and posting what we are dealing with in the line of infertility.

Ill update it here so its the first topic thing you see Just post in here with your information oki

Jezsika - Jess - Stage 3 Endometriosis removed in September 2004 (Second of 2 surgeries for it) and diagnosed with PCOS. Took 50mg of clomid a year after surgery to give my eggs a boost to get pregnant.
Adhesion problems from Endometriosis when pregnant and also pelvic problems.

Ginger - Simonne - Mild (I don't know what's *mild* about it!) endometriosis, removed in September 2006 (first surgery). DH has 50% motility, with 56% head abnormality, but count is 91 mill/ml so specialist thought this may balance out.

MellyBelly (Mel) - TTC 2 1/2 years
M/C June 06
Severe Endometriosis diagnosed & removed Dec 06
As far as DH's sperm, been checked and no concerns there.

Follow up appointment with OB/GYN 12 March for referral to Fertility Specialist if not Preg by then

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Ginger - Simonne - Mild (I don't know what's *mild* about it!) endometriosis, removed in September 2006 (first surgery). DH has 50% motility, with 56% head abnormality, but count is 91 mill/ml so specialist thought this may balance out.
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Come on ladies come join me and ginger Its nice to know what everyone is dealing with it makes you kinda feel like a family so to speak.

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MellyBelly (Mel)

TTC 2 1/2 years
M/C June 06
'Extensive' Endometriosis diagnosed & removed Dec 06
As far as DH's sperm, been checked and no concerns there.

Follow up appointment with OB/GYN 12 March for referral to Fertility Specialist if not Preg by then

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Hey melly ...do you mind me asking where your endo was? eg. ovaries, bowel ...

I'm curious about your specialist thinking you'd fall pregnant quickly after the surgery, as mine gave me from the 3 month mark. I wonder what the difference is? The only thing I can think of is either different specialist opinions, or where the endo was located...
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Hey there Ginger,

the specialist thought we'd fall pregnant within 3-6 months, but seeing we've already taken so long DH and I pushed for a 3 month appointment. She also thought we'd get pregnant relatively quickly due to already getting PG while having Endo, apparently that was going against the odds for how extensive it was.

My endo was through out my abdomen, none on my bowel, ovaries etc. Patentcy of tubes was good, ovaries where clear of any cysts/endo.

Could just be different opinions from specialists, i am sure they all vary. We were also very clear we didn't want to wait too much longer for further treatment. Because of waiting lists to get in to see her, i made the appointment in jan for March. Another comment from the specialist (who was Jeannie MacDonald) was she reckons if we aren't pg by the time we see her, we will conceive while on a waiting list.....here's hoping. I reckon this is due to me not worrying or becoming over consumed by it all..

Hope some of that helps you..??


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I was just curious

I think things have taken their time for us because my endo was largely centered on my ovaries - so pretty much the worst place it could be hormonally apparently. Joy!

I really hope we (you and me) do manage to pull off pregnancies though before starting fertility treatment. Fingers crossed!

I'm a little surprised that my specialist didn't want a follow up appointment with me ...although she did say that she would do a referral to Fertility Associates if we weren't pg by the new year. Perhaps she was just really confident that things would be honky dory.

It was a good idea of yours though to make the 3 month appointment.
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I don't mind you asking at all Ginger, seeing we are both pretty much in the same boat it's nice to know a little more about what each of us is dealing with.

I too know we (you and I) will get our dreams of becoming PG this year and without the assistance of fertility treatment.

I have decided this month that i am going to stay as positive about it all as I can and not let myself get into the rut i was in on Wednesday.....I am setting myself some goals and things to keep myself occupied over the next four weeks. I've even noted on the calender when the 'right' days are for DH so he doesn't have to ask..

Next week i'll get confirmation of my promotion (yeah looks 99% that i'll get it), then on Sunday next week i am starting a new programme at the gym which lasts for 6 weeks, we have a wedding to go to the following week & I start Pilates, then two weeks later we have my MIL 60th which is when AF is due... so i think i pretty much have myself nicely occupied. I'm also adding in there getting my eyebrows waxed....sorry can't face having bikini wax you're braver than me. And catching up with a friend i haven't seen for sometime, who is also TTC, need to see how she is going. If all of this doesn't keep my mind off of AF then nothing will.

so have you made an appointment with specialist for your referralto Fertility Assoc? I know you don't really want to have to go down that route, but maybe once you've made the next step you'll take your mind off of it all and you never know.... I know that that is what happened for us when we got PG last year, but unfortunately it didn't stay but that aside, i think is what my specialist meant by us being the type of couple who get PG on a waiting list - you could be the same. I am the type of person who plans things and expects them to go to that plan so this has really rattled me, and no doubt made me more worried/stressed about it, which we all know doesn't help.

Oh cripes, look at the length of this post - sorry Ginger, if you're actually still reading this....anyway, i hope you know what i'm getting at and hope i haven't stomped on your toes...




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First off - there was no stomping!

I find keeping busy helps too This month we haven't got a lot going on but I have some winter shopping planned for the end of the month, and I've also booked a pedicure with my beauty therapist a couple of days after AF is due, so while I won't be overly occupied *during* the month, I have stuff to look forward to. Plus I've been thinking more about this book, and I've started some mapping. I might just plow lots of time into that.

The bikini wax is funny ...the first time it hurt like the dickens, but my beauty therapist told me to book the second one for while I have AF and it won't hurt as much. Bizzare advice, but she was perfectly right - it didn't really hurt any more than having my eyebrows waxed!

I've been temping this cycle after the odd happenings at the end of last cycle for me, and so far my chart is almost the exact *opposite* of the last chart I did! Fabulous Nevermind - all I want to see out of it is ovulation.

My specialist is booked up until Kingdom come, but I've spoken to my family doctor and he will do a referral for us as soon as we ask for it - we don't have to go back to the specialist. He recommends IVF, and taking up the 2 free ones available through the public health system before paying for private cycles. I don't know what the waiting list is like though, but for the moment, going on the public list is ok by DH who was otherwise a bit twitchy about fertility treatment. We have to redo our tests (both me and DH) for the referral, but that's no biggie in the scheme of things. It's another reason for charting this month too - just because my cycle was off last month, whereas my other post-op cycles had been like clockwork.

Yikes - I've written a novel as well sorry! But I need to fly and take the monsters to the park now, so I'll talk to you soon!
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Gah Endo sucks balls aye ladies ginger i feel for you mine was all over my bowel and was starting on my ovaries. Maybe its coming back there hence the sore ovaries alot. f**k i hope not i dont want anymore surgeries!!!
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Yeah, I had it on my bowel as well Jess - it's not pleasant! I had it on my ovaries, the outer area of my uterus, on my bowel and in the cavity at the top fo the vagina behind (I think) the uterus ...they have a name for the place, but I can't remember it.

Marvellous!

My temps are interesting this month - running in the low range this month ...I wonder if it's to do with things finally starting to settle post surgery? It's surely taken long enough!
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Yer it sucks i was still drugged up so all i got was on my bowel and starting on ovaries lol and i have PCOS and hadnt ovulated for at least a year. She must have seen the cobwebs haha

Yer mine went crazy like that temps are hormone related so who knows
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Makes you wish you'd known that before TTC ...so you could've saved all that money spent on contraception and doctors!
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YUH! totally! Could have had a GREAT time hahaha
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I can join you with the endo problems. The first tme I had it taken out it was on everything - bowel, ovaries, uterus, tubes the lot. They told me I had extensive endo and were so sorry that it had taken so long to have the op (2 years as they thought I was making the whole thing up ). The second time (after I had Andrew) it was just on my uterus and scar tissue from the previous op, so not as bad but because of the scar tissue it felt really bad. Then there is also the PCOS, started out on the right side (I could feel the eggs leaving the ovary that month) and then in May this year I was told I had it on both sides, and the chances of me getting pregnant again were quite low, well 9 months on and i'm just about ready to have that baby from the pregnancy that was quite a low chance of happening. For some reason (and I think i'm quite lucky) I was still ovulating. As we know PCOS can stop ovulation but it kept happening for me from the right side at least as I could feel it happening. 
My mum who had her last lot of endo taken out (after a hystorectomy) still can feel it when she "would" have AF come but because nothing is there anymore she doesn't get her visiting. So I know i'm in for scar tissue endo for the rest of my life and there ain't much that can be done about it. So those are my issues, and i'm probably heading down the same track as my mum and having a hystorectomy in my early 30's.
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Im having some endo and PCOS issues now i REALLY need to have my scan done i have like what i could refer to as early labour contraction type cramps it sucks!!! My period is almost finished!
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Okay lets see if my daughter will allow me to do this.

I fell pregnant with our honeymoon baby but at 6 weeks started with heavy bleeding. Was an miscarriage. I then couldnt fall pregnant at all for about 7 months and had absolutely no period. When to go see a gynae which immediatly told me if I was always overweight and when I said no and she saw my face she said I suspect you have PCOS.

Did a scan and it was proven positive and bloodwork as well. She refused to put me on meds to fall pregnant and encouraged me to lose weight really really slowly. If I was able to lose 5% she said myx periods will become normal. After a few months of being depressed I said what da heck lets give it a try.

I was really really tired of just timing sex and really didnt feel passion at all for it. I did lose about 13kg in 4 months and she thought that was absoluty great. I thought I might be pregnant again and did a test. Was positive but next day started bleeding. Went for a check up and she said it was a biochemical mc. Dont ask me what da heck that was.

About 2 months later I went back thinking I might have breastcancer as I all of a sudden started feeling lumps in my breast but it went away when my period came. She literally started laughing at me when I explained the cramps down there in the middle of the month ect. She was really nice and told me that is absulotely fantastic you are ovulating.

Well fell pregnant the very next cycle. And hubby wasnt really enthuisiastic at all. Started with bleeding about 3 days later and I was so fed up that I said I dont even want kids anymore. Hubby on the other hand said I was so positive this will be different that he feels it is different.

Did all the tests an there was bleeding but my daughter was perfect and had a heartbeat at 5 weeks already. They think the bleeding is due to another twin. My progesterone was really low so supplemented that and was on bedrest.

And wha la she is now here and really really a miracle in my eyes and she was born around the time we lost our little honeymoon angel.

I hate having PCOS as it is so difficult to lose weight and I hate the facial hair but I learned to live with it.

Okay and this was a really really long post. Sorry.


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