What would you be comfortable with?
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Topic: What would you be comfortable with?
Posted By: daikini
Subject: What would you be comfortable with?
Date Posted: 16 November 2005 at 2:49pm
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Okay, so this might be TMI for some of you... if I embarrass you, I appologise.
Nat has bought me some lovely lingerie (nothing revealing, it's a long robe-style dress, and g-string) for christmas, and I'm going to be opening the present in front of my parents. Now, that itself will not embarrass us. My mum helped me fold some washing last month that included a baby doll style outfit - she just passed it to me and said I could fold it better than she could. The thing is, my 14yo sister and 12yo brother will also be there. My sister will be fine, but my brother may be silly. Would you be embarrassed in a similar situation? ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
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Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 16 November 2005 at 3:16pm
Yes!  Would be embarrassed in front of anyone, esp my parents!!  ------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 |
Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 16 November 2005 at 3:43pm
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LMAO!!! If I opened something like thsat in front of my family they would probably laugh soooo much.... the thought of me trying to squeeze into something like that....
I wouldn't let it bother you Becca - boys arew ALWAYS silly at that age! ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 16 November 2005 at 8:03pm
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My 13yr old stepson is particulary silly when it comes to helping getting the washing off the line, especially when laughing at my "G strings" (actually just plain old bikini undies, shows what he dosent know!!). I get a great laugh out of his embarrassment! ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: Southlandmummy
Date Posted: 16 November 2005 at 8:08pm
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I wouldnt be embrassed but my family is so open and my parents are sick.. as in always gropping each other around us.. although my sister would be embrassed but shes 17..
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 16 November 2005 at 8:18pm
I think I'd be right in saying remember when you were a teenager EVERYTHING embarrassed you, especailly ANYTHING to do with your family! LMAO!!!!! It willb e a laugh!  ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 16 November 2005 at 9:39pm
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nah - wouldn't embarass me.. our families are pretty open and i think it's all good since we are a huge family of girls. Mike's family is very open - as in, argh can't beleive i'm saying this.. I'm the 1st "proper" girlfriend mike ever had... and after we had "relations" for the first time, the next day we went to visit his grandparents, and they asked him about it and teased him... lets just say i would have liked the floor to open up and swallow me...
I guess it's what you feel comfortable with - doesn't sound too raunchy to me.. who cares, as it's already been said, 14 yr old boys make EVERYTHING rude. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja 
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 16 November 2005 at 10:04pm
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OMG Janine. i would've died!!!!!!! Then again i remember being caught in a "comprimising position" when i was 17 with my then-bf. His mother walked in and then later...AT THE DINNER TABLE!!!!.... said "well, i didn't know girls still did that nowadays". mortified beyond belief!
talking about knickers again...boys at that age are dumb and will giggle at anything, I think it'd be a little embarressing but nothing too bad. Go for it! |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 16 November 2005 at 10:44pm
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I have a 12 year old brother and I think he'd be ok. Maybe snicker a bit and tell his friends about it later but nothing that would scar him for life!!!
(Then again, he's the only boy in a family of 6 girls) Poor kid. I gave him the sex talk the other day. He was horrified (which I was relieved about) but I just had to be sure that he would talk to my sister or me before he even thought about getting anywhere near that stage. He put me in my place good and proper "Nikki, why would I have sex when I'm too scared to even kiss a girl???" Like I said... very relieved. |
Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 17 November 2005 at 7:34am
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That is sooooo cute Nikki!! ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 17 November 2005 at 8:30am
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I had the sex talk with my sister on Labour weekend, not the biological stuff - I know our mum covered that when Kathrine started getting her periods, more the emotional stuff. I know she's got a boyfriend (but Mum doesn't realise they are as serious about each other as they are) so I let her know that she could talk to me about all the conflicting emotions if she wanted to. I think she was relieved - and she did laugh when I said that thinking of your parents having sex was gross, but I have 2 kids so she knows I've done it at least twice, and sisters aren't as gross as parents! ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 17 November 2005 at 8:33am
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I wrapped the lingerie last night. I've done it in such a way that when I open it, I can grab the g string before it falls out, then show everyone the dress. This way, Simon isn't going to go into giggle fits! Honestly, he's worse than a girl! I know my parents won't be embarrassed cause a few years ago, "santa's little helper" gave my mum a see-through short nightie and my dad got a novelty sequined g string!
Thanks for your comments, everyone. ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 17 November 2005 at 9:28am
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ew ew ew - men's g strings. argh. I think mike said once that FIL wears them lol argh, TMI!!! ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 17 November 2005 at 10:23am
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My family is pretty open too. I remember I bought my stepdad a leopard print G-string as a joke.....Bad idea coz my mum made him "model" it. I never want to see that much of my stepdad ever again! Lol!!!
My mum was awful when she gave me the "talk". It was very technical & I had to stop her half way through to tell her that I had already lost my virginity! Whoops. She left the talk about 2 months to late. Yet when it came to my sister, it hasn't been a problem although my sister has come to see me about a few details that she didn't want to talk about with our mum...such as BJs etc... ------------- Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6) Successful HWB VBA2Cs! Soon to be surrogate |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 17 November 2005 at 1:05pm
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lol, we never had that talk with our mum... maybe that's why all of us have at least 2 kids each. i do remember my brother visiting from aussie just after i got my first boyfriend, and he went out and got a box of those coloured/flavoured condoms and gave them to me. sooo embarassing! ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 17 November 2005 at 1:19pm
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I got taken to the mother/daughter evening in standard 4 (had videos with bees and flowers etc) and got given sampler packs of sanitary pads etc, then mum gave me (very red faced she was, too) a green colour book for teenage girls, forgot the name of it, a big hardcover everything a teenage girl shoul know type book (maybe that was the title?!) embarrassing! In fact, if I hadn't just had a baby, I'm sure they would still think I was a virgin!! ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 17 November 2005 at 2:06pm
| omg i thought you meant a green colouring-in book for teenagers and was wondering what that would be like..... |
Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 17 November 2005 at 2:23pm
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LMAO Lizzie
I remember that video talk thingie at school when I was standard 4 too... probably the same thing! I used to send away for millions of free samples of tampons/pads as I COULDN"T WAIT for it all to get started... boy, if I knew then what it would be really like (periods I mean not the sex, hehehehehe) I wouldn't have been so keen! ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 17 November 2005 at 3:37pm
I reckon! I used to send away for the samples as well, and conduct experiments with them with my mates after school! I couldn't wait! HAHA then, when it happened, I was sooooo mortified, as we were away on a family holiday, and I said to mum "don't tell dad.." which of course she did, as well as the lady who ran the motels and the shop lady..... Liz, ha ha I was trying to imagine a "birds and bees" colouring in book for teen girls! lmao!!!------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 17 November 2005 at 7:41pm
| i got my first period at 11 and was sooooooo embarreseed. I remember getting my first bra and having the lady at DEKA popping her head in to "see how i was getting on"....she used to be my babysitter.....shudder! |
Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 17 November 2005 at 8:13pm
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I got my first bra at DEKA as well, and between the lady "popping in" all the time and my mother throwing the changing room door wide open for the whole store to see (on a late night friday as well!) the whole experience left me traumatised! Didn't get another proper bra fitting till 2 yars ago, when I found out I was wearing a b when I should have been DD! lol! And then got another when 35wk pregnant (hadn't changed..)
Gosh its hard being a woman!!  ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 17 November 2005 at 9:42pm
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lol We had a set of those books - everything a teenage girl should know - and the one for boys too - they sat at the top of the bookshelf in our lounge - i never saw them move EVER. lolol. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 17 November 2005 at 9:45pm
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We also had this cartoon book called "where did I come from?" if was quite funny. It sat in the bookcase in the lounge. It was never "given" to us, and to this day I still don't know if my parents bought it for us or themselves because it was funny... We used to "sneak" looks at it..lol ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 18 November 2005 at 8:18am
| OOoh, i remember that book. i swear it says "having sex is like skipping rope"....and then something about sneezing. |
Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 18 November 2005 at 9:08am
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My parents have that book too.. IIRC, the sneezing thing is trying to describe a woman's orgasm! ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 18 November 2005 at 2:05pm
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Yes, I remember that!!! and the cartoon sperms!!! pmsl!!
ha ha those were the days... ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 18 November 2005 at 2:11pm
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hahaha we had those books
The other one in the series we had was called "What is happening to me?" and was about puberty. We thought we were soo naughty looking at those books. Quite informative though (despite an orgasm being compared to a sneeze!) |
Posted By: 98765
Date Posted: 20 November 2005 at 2:04pm
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haha yeah my mum gave me that whats happening to me book it was quite informative except that by the time she gave it 2 me i had already learnt it all in school lol ------------- http://lilypie.com">  
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 22 November 2005 at 3:17pm
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Hmmmm, I must have had a deprived childhood, coz we never had those books!
Did get the Catholic school version of the mother-daughter evening tho. I'm pretty open with my Mum, she's good like that, but when my Dad walked in on Willie and I having 'relations' a few weeks ago none of us were quite sure where to look -------------  Maya Grace (28/02/03)
 (02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 22 November 2005 at 4:03pm
I am dying of embarrassment for you right here, i swear I just blushed, and i definately cringed!!! ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 22 November 2005 at 4:08pm
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Me too, Annie! ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 22 November 2005 at 4:17pm
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Mmmmmhmmmmm! I didn't know what to say/do/look.... We didn't realise he was on his way home, and the bedroom door was open, and you can see into our room from the kitchen, and he walked straight in the back door and into the kitchen... ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 22 November 2005 at 4:59pm
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oh no, SHAME!!! ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: AnnaD
Date Posted: 22 November 2005 at 5:14pm
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That is terrible!! Cringe!!
Back to the sex talk thing... I read somewhere recently (can't remember where!!) that suggests that your children should know the basics of sex by the time they go to school? I mean the general gist - where daddy puts what etc! Is this too young? What do you guys think? Quinn is only sixteen months but the thought of that seems bizarre! ------------- Anna and Quinn 10 July 2004 www.quinnariki.blogspot.com and one more on the way.... http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 23 November 2005 at 8:19am
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Kiya knows that it takes "special cuddles in bed" between a mummy and a daddy to make a baby... she believes that God and Jesus (she always says it like that) plant a seed in the mummy's tummy with the daddy's help, and that seed grows in the womb to become a baby. She knows all the technical stuff after that, like how the placenta and umbilical cord work, and how the baby comes out - she knows about vaginal and c-section births!
I don't know about telling her much more than that at this stage! I think any more details can wait 4 or 5 years or so... but I do want her to know before she hits puberty. ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 23 November 2005 at 8:25am
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Emma - LOL, I am so impressed that you are even having "relations"... I still can't be bothered! But I would die if my dad walked in on us... probably wouldn't be so bad if it was mum for some reason??... ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 23 November 2005 at 1:10pm
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Ahhh scary. My brother busted me a while ago. I thought that was bad enough!!!
It's just something about parents walking in that makes it so much worse! I think its because I'd like my parents to always think of me as pure and innocent (though I kinda ruined that image by getting preggo at uni) Ah well... Door closed from now on huh Emma?
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 23 November 2005 at 2:17pm
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Definitely.
And lol Ana - we say we are TTC, but for that to happen you actually have to have 'relations' and we are usually both asleep on the couch by about 8pm. Very romantic ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: lenabeanz
Date Posted: 23 November 2005 at 2:31pm
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Haha David is constantly asleep on the couch - Mind you he is up at 430am to milk the moo moos and is "working" all day!! I am even getting to the point its mainly just me and Arna for tea... "Relations" - yeah well I won't even go there... ------------- http://www.snugglepie.com"> 
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 23 November 2005 at 2:44pm
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LOL! Relations!! I think I am going to have to find that where did I come from book to refresh my memory... ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 23 November 2005 at 2:55pm
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Willie gets up at 4am too, he's a truck driver and he has to be on site by 5am. He's usually home about 5.30ish, so it's a long day, no wonder he's tired! And I work full time but only have part time childcare so there are just not enough hours in the day for me - and I have signed up for night Te Reo classes next year just in case I have any spare time!!! ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 23 November 2005 at 3:02pm
So when will you TTC #2? Gosh, talk about keeping yourself busy Emma! Good on you, though, for doing things you are interested in! 
Speaking of TTC... my SIL had #3 yesterday, a little girl Elisha (el-ee-sha, similar to aleisha). The photos are making me so clucky! ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
Posted By: lenabeanz
Date Posted: 23 November 2005 at 3:05pm
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I signed up for a lifeworks course last year thinking I would have time yet the day before I would always have to somehow finish a month worth of work... got one more book and im done!!
Then next year I am going to do small business management, work as part time merchandiser and work on the farm... taking on too much i think... ------------- http://www.snugglepie.com">
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 23 November 2005 at 3:29pm
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Yep, I am the Queen of taking on too much. I work part time for OhBaby!, also have 3 other contracts for various hours/deadlines and am finishing my PostGrad Dip in Journalism (can't finish it now till Semester 2 next year coz the paper I need isn't offered in S1 which is gutting!).
But I really want to pick up my Reo again, so I am going to do 3 10 week night courses Intermediate, Advanced and Immersion to refresh my memory. And they're free which is awesome. Also will be a good way to get out of the house, because working and studying from home means I don't get a lot of contact with other people (ie. I am a loony toon!) Good on you for going for it Lena, nothing like staying busy! ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 23 November 2005 at 3:30pm
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Oh Becca, I forgot, we will probably start seriously TTC some time next year (we are getting married next Oct), but at the moment we are doing the old "if it happens it happens" thing. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: lenabeanz
Date Posted: 23 November 2005 at 3:48pm
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Yeah it will be a wake up call for me - I went straight from school to having Arna and havent honestly done much since Ive had her - worked 3 days a week when I was pregnant then went back for 2 months after she was born and been a SAHM without doing any study (apart from lifeworks) since...
Good challenge for the rusty brain I think!! ------------- http://www.snugglepie.com">
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 23 November 2005 at 3:50pm
| what's "lifeworks" Lena? |
Posted By: lenabeanz
Date Posted: 23 November 2005 at 3:54pm
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Its run by Open Polytechnic and is a 12 month free course. At the end of it you get a Certificate in Employment skills and Certificate of Vocational and Personal Development. So it's really just about goals, how to set goals for work, personal etc.
Quite good but I got the most out of it at the beginning - the last 3 months was a repeat of the first 6 (revision!) Good if you want to get back into the work force!! ------------- http://www.snugglepie.com">
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Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 23 November 2005 at 4:35pm
I cant even remeber the last time "relations" happened in our house!! Hubby is too scared to go there yet (is that weird?). He is worried that things are permanently stretched (! oh dear, that sounds terrible!!) and "relations" wont be the same! I'm keen but very scared about getting pregnant and having to go through labour again!! Lucky we both too tired to worry about it at the moment!  ------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 |
Posted By: lenabeanz
Date Posted: 23 November 2005 at 5:33pm
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Haha well it took david and I 13 weeks to have "relations" - but I also had an operation "down there" about 2 weeks after Arna was born so that didn't help matters...
My advice is just go slow and just when you are comfortable then try - if that doesn't work then wait a week or so and try again ------------- http://www.snugglepie.com">
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Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 23 November 2005 at 5:49pm
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I tried to tell my DH that you had to wait 12 weeks after having a baby for "the wild thing" Buat a good friend and her hubby had a baby at the same time as us and one day when we went around her DH was telling us how they had their 6 week shag....... So I had to come clean and tell him your only ment to wait 6 weeks ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 23 November 2005 at 8:09pm
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lol first time it was easy to wait cos i had stitches, but this time.. no such luck. lol. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 23 November 2005 at 9:22pm
| really? you have to wait 6 weeks? My midwife asked me at Jake's 3 week exam if we'd had sex yet. Funny, given what she'd seen, but I blushed! |
Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 23 November 2005 at 9:45pm
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Well... you're supposed to wait 6 weeks to let everything down there settle down, and heal...
we only waited 7 days... ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 24 November 2005 at 7:56am
I waited exactly 2 weeks then jumped Spencer. Not that he was really complaining...... 
I had a c-section though so maybe thats why? ------------- Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6) Successful HWB VBA2Cs! Soon to be surrogate |
Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 24 November 2005 at 9:32am
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I didn't have a c-section... ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 24 November 2005 at 10:08am
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OMG!!!! That would have been Rods dream!!! Embarraasingly enough he has the six week mark circled on the calender in red, so everyone would ask what "the big day" meant, and he told them! Oh the shame!!
I had alot of internal stiches, so was scared. Still not up to much, even though we are meant to be casually ttc from this month on....Am waiting for my we op to get rid of the scar tisure (and hopefully return my libido!!) TMI, I know!  ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 24 November 2005 at 11:01am
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I had minimal grazing with Josiah, and was only pushing for 25 minutes... it was all over really fast, and I walked out of the hospital 3 1/2 hours after I arrived. ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 24 November 2005 at 11:23am
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Lucky!!!! ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 24 November 2005 at 11:49am
I was similar to you becca (with minimal grazing and walked out 2 hours after the birth) but although we have had realations a few times I just am really not into it at all  I feel really bad for Peter because he is being so good about it but I feel like I want it less and less the more time goes on!? aaaargh, I should just bite the bullet and go for it. Maybe if I get back into the swing of things it won't be so bad.... ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 24 November 2005 at 1:12pm
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lol tiredness is a big part of it though - come on, half the time you don't get any time to spend on yourself, you body isn't yours any more it's the baby's - you are just a big walking talking milk machine, you have a kid in constant contact with you all day, possibly a toddler hanging off your leg too - what makes them think you're gonna want to spend time on them? by the end of the day you just want 10 minutes to yourself where nobody is touching you! lol, i mean that in the nicest possible way.
argh - with two kids it takes planning too, like a secret mission - right this one's asleep at this time, i have this and this to do tonight, and this one is asleep then, so how about we schedule it for hmmm, 9.30 lololol. takes all the fun away. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 24 November 2005 at 1:13pm
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Once your hormones settle your libido should return.
I was talking to another Mum who was telling me how much better sex is post-baby. I am inclined to agree. (ahhh good old TMI) sorry
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 24 November 2005 at 1:13pm
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ooo damnit... i said sex. i meant "relations"
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 24 November 2005 at 1:16pm
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lolol... i spose it is - maybe cos once you actually want it again and you get time you appreciate it a lot more cos it might not happen again for a long time. he he he ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 24 November 2005 at 1:17pm
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argh, dunno if i'll want it again for a while - he he, last time i just started feeling like it again look what happened... little miss ayja! ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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