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Topic: Military Wives and Families
Posted By: mummy_becks
Subject: Military Wives and Families
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 9:13pm

So how many are there on here. I'm not one just yet but not long to go now. How much do they help you out?

I was told that if you can last the first 2 years of marriage and the military you can handle anything.

How do you pass the time when you are by yourself as DH is away with work??



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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 9:25pm
I can't comment on the Army, but as for the Airforce and being with someone who isn't an officer. They don't do anything. We're pretty much on our own.

In saying that the Officer's wives seem to have more of a group thing going on, especially if they live on Base.
But then a lot of Officer's wives don't work, lucky them.

I have heard Linton can be very clique, and some women will only be-friend you depending on your husbands rank.

They do sometimes offer support when your partner is on overseas deployment, but again this mainly applys to those living at the Camp.

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Posted By: Bombshell
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 9:30pm
there are some awesome forces wives on some of the american forums....made me quite sad at times to read of the TTC journeys of some of them, the bubbas that were born when daddy was in iraq etc...and when we were in hawaii the ribbons were everywhere (magnetic ones) on cars - different colours to symbalise which family member was away - eeg daddy, mummy, wife, husband, son, daughter etc....

My heart goes out to you and your family...were always here to chat to if need be when hubby is away....


Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 9:32pm

Oh I will be spending a lot of time on here at nights I think - watch that post count climb



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Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 11 December 2007 at 10:27am
I think you already know Becks but my DH is an officer in the navy. Currently he is based on land & won't be posted back to a ship until about July 2008. As of today, he is on leave until the end of Jan which will give him lots of time with bubs when he arrives. So being able to build up lots of leave is a real bonus for us at the moment.

When we first got together he left for 6 months in the Middle East about a month later & since then he has been deployed overseas several times for up to 6 months at a time... Yes it does suck but you slowly learn to adjust on your own & believe it or not there are some positives (I used to love receiving hand-written letters & you look so forward to phone calls & their return). I think one of the most impt things is to try & carry on as normally as possible while they're away.

The navy does seem to have several support mechanisms in place for families. They have social workers that are available anytime free of charge, a free baby-sitting service if you needed to make an appt or something on your own & they have a creche type thing too where I imagine you can meet other Mums... They also run school camps, ski trips & Halloween & Xmas parties... Obviously this is the navy but I'm sure the army would organise similar things?? The navy has a NIB (navy info bureau) which you can ring to find out about all these services. They also produce a monthly newsletter which is full of relevant info...

Sorry for the ramble but I hope it was of some use

Emz might pop in here too & give an army perspective...

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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 11 December 2007 at 10:55am
Unfortunately the army is the worst out of the joint forces, but still there is support, you just need to look for it.

I can't really comment on what happens in Linton, but if you live in the housing area down here there are fortnightly newsletters that have events being organised in it etc.

The biggest shock for me was that ranks don't end when they walk out of camp at the end of the day. They take them home and if you are a low rank you get treated with no respect. Although when we lived out there we were quite young (I was only 19 at the time) and had no children so it didn't help.

If you rent off the army, it's very cheap (although it is state housing), and if you have your own home you can apply for a DTLS (Defence Transfer Land Subsidy). PM me if you want to know how much etc. I have never heard of a free babysitting service in the army, but they do have a list of cheap babysitters. They usually run coffee groups too.

When hubby goes away, you can contact the DSO (Deployment Services Officer) 24 hours a day with an concerns (like if you hear anything on the news). They will run monthly meetings to catch you up on info and to socialise with other partners of deployed people.

The first time DH went to Afghanistan, we'd only been living together for a few weeks and I really didn't know how to cope. The best thing is to busy yourself with activities with the kids, spending time with friends and family and starting new projects. They pay really well when they are on deployments so there's extra money there to get someone to mow the lawns or look after the kids if you want to use it for that.

It does get a lot easier - the first time away was the hardest for me. DH has been away for over half of our time together, and you may or may not remember that he almost couldn't make it to our wedding and was also supposed to be going back to Timor last week but got pulled from the trip. He'll be away in May/June next year for 6 months.

The good thing with you guys being up north is that their trips overseas are slowing down at the moment (they're being given to our guys) and because Nigel's only starting out, he shouldn't be going overseas for at least a year anyway.

Wow, this was really long, sorry for the massive post! Remember, PM me anytime, it's hard doing the army wife thing. I don't see myself being able to work full-time until our kids are much older due to them sometimes leaving at the drop of a hat and we are the ones that pick up the pieces.


Posted By: Mikaela
Date Posted: 11 December 2007 at 11:53am
I'm another Navy wife, my husband is an officer and is currently based in Melbourne getting a new ship ready. He hasn't seen his son in two months (he's 4.5 months now) so when we see him this weekend there'll be a big change!

I think the Navy is the best out of the three as far as family support goes.

I'm staying with my parents in Aus at the moment, but when we're in Auckland we rent a house from the Navy and get on really well with the families in other houses around us. Our house is in a block of 4 quite close together and all 4 families have kids about the same age which is brilliant.

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Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 11 December 2007 at 12:59pm
Hi Mikaela

I hope your weekend goes well with P. Wow 2 months, he'll definitely notice a difference.

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Posted By: MummyFreckle
Date Posted: 11 December 2007 at 2:21pm

I am not an army wife, but I was an army brat. I am the first generation not be in the forces in some way shape or form. I spent most of my childhood either living on base or pretty close to it, so did my mun - except she got sent to boarding school. At the time I hated the moving and hated that my friends would move away too, but as an adult I can appreciate that it was a pretty cool lifestyle (I grew up in the UK and then we lived in Cyprus on base, before we came here).

I dont envy any of you, I know that my mum had a very hard time when my dad was away, and he was often in places where there was no contact (like Belize) and she had very little support back then.

I hope that you can find support from each other on here -

 



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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 11 December 2007 at 4:13pm

Wow 2 months he won't regonise him.

We had the induction type meeting today and I learnt a few things. I think the hardest thing going to be for me is that I have 2 young children at home with me (well in daycare), I am going to be studying fulltime and I don't have my parents in the country.



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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 11 December 2007 at 5:28pm
It's definitely do-able Becks, you just need to create a good support network around you for when hubby's away. Luckily most deployments aren't too bad now ie. Solomons is mostly territorial forces and is only 3 months, Timor is still 6 months but he would get a holiday to see you guys in the middle, and Afghan is 6 months (hardest trip as no break and little communication). I think it will take a bit of adjusting to, like any career, because this one impacts on your whole lifestyle. Having said that, I do quite like my own space and when DH goes away for a week or two, while I miss him it's nice to have the bed to myself every so often!

Other bonuses are that officers get paid quite well, and unless they're overseas they always get Xmas off (usually 3-4 weeks). You also get government packages at banks with less fees etc, oh and Hoyts have special rates for him (he just need to show his ID badge). We both get into the movies for $21 due to his DF discount and my student discount! It's the little things in life...


Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 11 December 2007 at 6:16pm
simsam I'm the same as you...5 generations of family in the forces(airforce) but i didnt enjoy the lifesytle(i seem to be the only one) :) both my parents were in it..and my Dad was away a lot..i do agree about rank though we were treated better the further up he got..

It was hard on my Mum but she coped(and did a great job) and fortunately for me they came back from Singapore when they got pregnant with me..and I only had to move 4 times.. but not the lifestyle I wanted for my children..having said that my cousins are in and loving it and for them it is a fantastic lifestyle..so to each their own..:)I think it's just cause I'm a wimp!

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 11 December 2007 at 9:25pm

We were told the first 7 weeks of basis (or as the flash words are Intial Officer Training) will be a culture shock, not only for him but also me with the lack of communication. But we were told that he can take his cellphone up and they will be given out at certain times of the day so he can call us and then i'd call him back as I have free minutes.

We found out about the money for housing and how that will impact on Working for Families, the recruiter has 2 children and a Captain and they still get some money for working for families so that is good to know.

Once he is on Officer Cadet Training (the long 9 month stint away from us) he can take his car up and the computer so at least he will be in more of a contact with him.

But I also found out he is leaving a day earlier  so my ticker is out of date. And he finishes IOT 2 days after Josh turns 1 so once he is back we will have a big party then for him.

He is quite lucky that on IOT his cousins husband is going to be one of the Staff Sergents up there so he will get a little bit of help (Neil said the odd secert phone call home after lights out ) but we'll see.



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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 11 December 2007 at 10:57pm
you may not have family suport Becks, but you have US!!!! and I can hop over and babysit if you need some time out, or whatever. Am also very good with typing assignments etc.


Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 8:05pm
Reading what you other ladies have to go thru, I am thankful DF is in the airforce, we don't get much help but its the least disruptive force to our everyday lives.

The most DF has been away for is 3 months and that was in Blenhiem.

Good Luck, Becks, basic is hard lucky Nigel is doing it in Summer and not winter.

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 11:01am

He's is a littl elucky with the IOT as well as his cousin's hubby is going to be on of the Staff Sergents up there; so he has already told me that I will get extra phone calls home after 10pm just for me. We have a deal - I help him out next year with 1 year of uni if he is nice to Nigel for those first 7 weeks .



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Posted By: nictoddie
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 12:07pm
I'll be back in town from this weekend too becks so if you need anything just holla !!!!! Even if it's just for a coffee and chat.
My brother is in the airforce at Ohakea and had a 6 month break last year and went back in middle of this year, must depend on rank and what you do as he was away all the time and has been away quite a bit since being back in as well

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 9:36pm

He wants to be in the Engineering Corp after he has finished NCC, but it totally depends on if there are spaces for officers there. If he does get in there then we go to Sydney for the 6 months and that time they will take us over there. Just now slowly collecting everything that he has to take up with him.



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I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived!


Posted By: waiukumum
Date Posted: 05 February 2008 at 10:10pm
Hi there everyone, I'm new to the oh baby website and looking to make some friends with mum's who have a partner in defence force. My partner is a CPO in the Navy and this is my first experience with deployment. We have a son who is 13 weeks old. We never thought that he'd go back to sea, as he's already served 20 years, but the unexpected happened and they've sent him back! Its a strange feeling to be without him as I don't have any family or friends around me, and he was my biggest support throught the pregnancy, delivery and the last 12 weeks! I hope someone can give some ideas on coping with this, its not really a life style that I'm entirely happy with! LOL


Posted By: .Mel
Date Posted: 05 February 2008 at 11:04pm
Hey just lurking

First of all Welcome to Oh Baby!!


Navy wife whereabouts are you in New Zealand? There's bound to be some girls on here that would be keen to meet up with you for company?

Join up to your baby's birth month thread that can be found in the First baby section. There's a great bunch of ladies floating around this site...

So sorry to hear that your partner has had to go away when you baby is so young.

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Posted By: waiukumum
Date Posted: 06 February 2008 at 8:28am
Thanks for you reply, I've changed my user name as I'm not a "wife" yet, but it was better than saying "navy mans girlfriend???" I'm in Waiuku, things can be a tad clicky around here. This will sustain me for now, its good to know that there are other ladies out there, whether it be navy, army or air force that go through the same things at one time or another. I don't know how people do it, but I guess I'm finding out the hard way that its possible LOL


Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 06 February 2008 at 9:14am
Hi waiukumum, nice to hear from you & thanks for your PM. I'm sorry to hear that your partner is away at the moment. Is he on Canterbury?? The unpredictability of the navy sure sucks but I hope you got some warning that he was being sent back to sea? They just seem to be so short of good people for all the new boats they've got/are getting... (which seems silly as my DH is sitting behind a desk at the moment doing a completely pointless & boring job - seems a waste).

Do you come over to the North Shore much? We should meet for a coffee or something if you do. My hubby is on land at the moment but he won't always be so I'm keen to have some support networks (coffee groups etc) in place before he goes back to sea. I don't have any family in Auckland either.

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Posted By: waiukumum
Date Posted: 06 February 2008 at 9:35am
Hi again Sally and thanks for your reply. This is going to sound absolutley ridiculous to you, but he's actually on Resolution. It is silly after reading your post's, he's still in bloody NZ! LOL! Although, the hard part there is that he's so close and yet so far. He's gone for about 6 weeks at a time and home for 2 days (weekends). I think I'm just a wimp, when I met him, he became a big support to me and I to him as he has had more than his share of life's woes! I know how it feels to be raising a young one with no family and little support. I guess the navy is quite supportive, but thats little comfort sometimes when all you need is your partner!

I haven't been over the shore for ages, we were looking at maybe moving over there if he had have stayed land based, but thats on hold for now. I'm keen to come over for coffee and chat though and to do it on a regular basis? Especially when you DH goes back to sea, it would be good to have some support there for you too.

(not to sound like a dumby, but what does DH mean??? LOL)


Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 06 February 2008 at 9:40am

DH stands for Dear Husband

I've been alone for just over 4 weeks now. I've spoken to DH 3 times, but the best thing is that time is almost up, the bad news he's only home for 4 days and then back up to the sub tropical climate of Waiouru.

I've had heaps of written letters from him which has been nice and his cousin has come home twice so I have sent up a few packages to him.

I am so hanging out for the 16th of this month (only 10 days to go) just so I can see him again.



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Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 06 February 2008 at 9:53am
I'm sitting here talking to DH & he reckons that Reso is the "worst" boat to be on b/c they do go away a lot & don't come back to AKld much (as you said).
I remember when DH was on one of the smaller patrol vessels he'd be out at sea training some of the little boys & they'd stay out overnight in the harbour!! SO close yet so far away. Seemed so silly to me

We should def meet up soon. We could always meet somewhere in the middle?

PS Not long to go now Becks

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Posted By: waiukumum
Date Posted: 06 February 2008 at 10:10am
Yeah, DH said that it would be like this, he's finding it difficult too, he never imagined this would happen. He has a older son and he missed out on alot of his childhood due to being at sea, and he was determined that it would'nt happen again. Funny how life throws those curb balls at you!! If you want to PM me with your email address and we can swap details from there if you like?

I feel for you Becks, my DH (or something like that and thanks for clearing that up!) has only been gone a week and the first few days were horrible! I think the worst of it is over, and so far it is getting easier day by day. Hang in there, and make the 4 days count when he is home.



Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 06 February 2008 at 10:50am

Oh we will be

Hes already planned how we are spending those days; hes very lucky and hes getting a massage on the Thursday night (something he has been bugging me to arrange for him for a long time) and we may go to the movies together. Good thing is at least during the day (on Thursday and Friday) we have it to ourselves as the boys are in daycare.

I'm actually enjoying being by myself, it has been challanging but life is a challange. Only had 1 bad night when I really missed him and I think that was 2 weeks ago.



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Posted By: waiukumum
Date Posted: 06 February 2008 at 8:58pm
Good on you Becks for doing well on your own. I'm sure that does get easier. For me it was the first two days, they were terrible! But as you say, life is all about challenges! I hope that you have an awesome four days with you DH!


Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 07 February 2008 at 9:07am
So Becks it seems that your DH won't be around on Josh's 1st birthday How is he finding the training??

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 21 June 2008 at 11:21pm

Bumping this as I think we have a few more of us on here now.

Most of you know that I am heading up to Waiouru to be with Nigel next weekend. Will be interesting living on camp with him.



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Posted By: Bubnumber2
Date Posted: 22 June 2008 at 12:01am
Wow, I wasn't expecting there to be more than a couple of military wives/partners here...but it seems like there are a few!

My husband is in the Airforce, but we are currently waiting for him to be transferred to the Army (for a bunch of reasons).

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 09 July 2008 at 7:28pm

Bumping again for K&? her DH is in the army as well.

And OMG I am so over Andrew and his "mummy an army man" when we see them all the time .



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Posted By: Nextbub
Date Posted: 09 July 2008 at 7:48pm
Hey all. Its nice to see there is a bunch of military partners on here.

I'm in Burnham and my DH is in the Army in the Transport section. He is away overseas at the moment, left in May and no he won't be home for the birth of our second daughter but we knew this would happen and decided to conceive anyway. Because of this I feel that I am quite prepared within myself seeing as we have been expecting him to be away on this trip since probably half way through last year.   I am in contact with him quite often esp through MSN messenger and he is missing us way more than what we are missing him lol. Actually I'm quite enjoying him being away lol. This is the second overseas trip he has been on since we have been together.

We meet at the end of 2001 when I was visiting my brother (also Army) and DH is a mate of his. We spent the first year in a long distance relationship - him being in Auckland (he was posted sortly after we meet) and me being in Southland.
At the start of 2003 I moved to Auckland to be with me and after 2 years there we were posted down to here at the end of 2004.
We had only been down here for about 6 months when he went over to Afghanistan for 6 months.   At the start of that deployment I found it quite hard before I settled into it but this time has been a breeze.

Whoa I think that is enough from me for now lol.


Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 09 July 2008 at 8:59pm
Hi K&?

My DH is at Burnham too, infantry and is doing corp training at the moment. Gets back tomorrow, has been away for 3 months.

I hear you on conceiving when your DH is going away, we did the same thing with Jack as DH was meant to go back to Timor at the end of last year but his boss pulled him off the trip because of the birth (good and bad... really needed the money!)

What time did your DH go to Afghan in '04? Mine was over April - September (support company trip). We've been through 2 deployments and 1 other overseas trip. I'm hoping that DH gets another trip soon (was supposed to go again in May but got pulled off that one too because they needed him here) - he needs to blow off some steam as it's been nearly 2 years since he got back from his last stint in Timor.

It's great you can keep in touch with your DH. I hear its a bit better over there now so that's good. And nice for him to be away somewhere tropical while we're all freezing our butts off here!

Haha Becks wonder how long it will take him to get used to army guys walking around? I'm an adult and it still took me a good month to realise I was living surrounded by people in frog suits Thank god we no longer live out at camp, I think I would go bonkers out there. (no offense K&? but been there done that and hated it)


Posted By: Nextbub
Date Posted: 09 July 2008 at 9:26pm
It was '05 that DH went over to Afghan. We moved to Burnham at the end of '04. He went over from June to Dec. Oh and we married in March '06.

I don't mind Burnham too much. Used it it now, but I guess I'm kinda over it too.

How long did you live in the housing area emz? And when did you move out?


Posted By: Mikaela
Date Posted: 09 July 2008 at 9:39pm
Gosh there are heaps of us around now! Pity we're all so spread out or we could have an Oh Baby defence wives/partners meet up

I'm back on the north shore in Auckland now, and DH is going to be away (he's having to work down in Wellington for most of this year, and then he'll be at sea in Oct/Nov) so I'm keen to catch up with anyone else who's in a similar situation. Safety in numbers!

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Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 10 July 2008 at 7:33pm
Hi K&?, gosh you're brave having bubs while hubby is away. How long after the birth will he be home? At least you'll get to choose her name!

My DH is still on land but the boat he's going to be captain of is actually going in the water this month (only a few months late). Don't know when it's being commissioned yet so he'll be around on land for a while longer yet. He hasn't said so, but I'm sure he's itching to get back to sea (& the extra $$ would be useful).

Apparently DH is pencilled in to go to the UK for a course in 2010 which means I'll have to produce bubs #2 before we go. Bit of a bummer because I would prefer a bigger gap but sacrifices are all part of being a good military wife I guess

We will definitely have to catch up soon Mikaela.

I hope you're surviving the temps in Waiouru Becks.

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Posted By: emmakate
Date Posted: 10 July 2008 at 7:56pm
hey all... i just noticed this thread.
i'm an "army wife" that lives in linton housing area. and i love it!! my DH has been to iraq and was being deployed to afgan when we found that we were pregnant with our second daughter (now due in a week!!) the army was really understanding when DH made the decision to stay home for the birth (thank god!!) ...
...just introducing myself!

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Posted By: Nextbub
Date Posted: 10 July 2008 at 8:47pm
Sally - Bubs is due end of Sept and DH will be home on leave for a couple of weeks early Oct and then the deployment finishes in Nov at some stage.

We picked out a name before he left but we are keeping that quite until she arrives and even then I may wait til I've emailed him a photo of her before I actually name her in case we change our minds about the name (though I doubt that will happen).


Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 10 July 2008 at 10:16pm

I am coming up to Auckland in September so will have to catch up with you ladies up there.

Emmakate, I am hopin got come back to Palmy at the end of this year (god know where Nigel will actually be then but I want to go back to my house). You should catch up with the other Palmy ladies they are lovely.



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Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 11 July 2008 at 8:43am
It's nice to hear that the army was understanding with your pregnancy emmakate . You'll definitely appreciate having him around. Although you'll be an expert by now

Well my DH is a sorry excuse for a husband today. He is in bed hungover . He had a work dinner last night & finally arrived home at 1.30am only to get up half an hour later to throw up in my kitchen sink . His excuse? He didn't want to wake up Liam. Charming.

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Posted By: Mikaela
Date Posted: 11 July 2008 at 11:55am
LOL at your DH Sally! My DH got out of going to the mess dinner thank god, given that we hardly ever see him at the moment anyway.

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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 11 July 2008 at 11:57am
Haha Sal! Men eh

We moved to Burnham Jan 05 and moved out March 06. We lived right across the road from the shops and the camp so it was just a bit too close for comfort. If we were in the streets I think it would have been a bit better.

Well my DH is home for a while now. He's supposed to be going to Germany for a couple of months sometime this year (so so jealous of him). If he doesn't go there and gets transferred elsewhere he'll either be going back to Afghan or Timor. I'm actually not too fussed with him not going away though as we are trying to get pregnant again and you kind of need to to tango for that one!


Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 11 July 2008 at 9:09pm

Whas he going to Germany for Emz??

Everyone up here is getting all excited about the Officer Cadets going to Brunei in 5 weeks time - so yes Nigel is going overseas after 6 months , but it is for their jungle training and its only for 2 1/2 weeks - but we get extra pay for those few weeks.



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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 08 September 2008 at 1:06pm

Well I had to attend my first army function on Friday night. Was quite amusing thou.

Nigel trip back from Brunei was eventful, the airforce plan broke down in Darwon so they were stuck there. Last monday I went over to camp and asked the Captain here when they were coming back. Little did I  know that they were arranging for a couple of them to come back on a civie flight.. Nigel finally came back on Wednesday afternoon (with 2 other cadets, the other dad and a guy came back as he mum is really sick) and the rest of the cadets arrived back in Waiouru 12.30am Friday.

The army function was put on by the kippies (the ones who get their degree paid for by the army). We had a BBQ at the Officer Cadets bar (the Malone Bar). When we walked in I could see some of the cadets thinking why are they here. But once we had dinner a couple of the girls came over and were talking to me, we were drinking as well (OMG so cheap there drinks are) and one of the girls was making Andrew go and get daddy to get me more drinks .

Nigel has just put in for corp choices so hopefulyl we will find them out soon, so I know were I am going to be next year. He has said that if he gets his first choice then he is down in Burnham for 6 months, but I will not be going there. I have to think of Andrew's schooling.



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Posted By: susieq
Date Posted: 08 September 2008 at 1:20pm
My Great great uncle and he is far related to The Kelly was Colnel Malone who is probably who the Malone Bar is named after and of course My dad was in the army which is why I lived in Waiouru until he died walking across the parade ground a clot in his leg.


Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 08 September 2008 at 1:37pm

Susie I will have a look next time I am there, or I will get Nigel to have a look to see who it is named after.



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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 08 September 2008 at 5:00pm
Hehe Becks - you could always come down just for a *wee* while and then we could do coffee Plus kids don't have to be in school till they're 6 if you don't want them to be.

So what choices did he make? ie what corp would he be in if he came down here?

DH hasn't really been home much for the last 4 months, sees Jack maybe 2-3 times a week cos of his hours. I said to him I wish he was on deployment because at least then we get paid well for him being away all the time. Is that a bit naughty of me?


Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 08 September 2008 at 6:19pm
What are his choices?
Burnham isn't too bad. I'd take Chch over Waiouru. Its close to the cookie time factory shop. yum yum

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 08 September 2008 at 6:45pm

His first choice was medic corp, he is trained in that area and has already shown up a couple of corprals when they were trying to tell a cadet what was wrong with him (the corpral had no idea what muscle he had pulled), so that would involve training in Burnham. If he gets in there (which I think he will) he will be down there for 6 months. i would prefer to go back to my house, we wouldn't get a house down in Chch so no point being there. He should from there get posted to Linton. And if all going well (the only chick who talks to me at OSC) will also be in the medic corp as well, she is already a gunner but wants a change of direction, and she will probably go to Linton too so I will still ahve her around.

Emz, if he does go there, we will have a weekend down there so will def have coffee.



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Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 08 September 2008 at 6:57pm
Nup, not naughty of you Emz. I totally know what you mean. If he has to be away from his family so much you might as well make it worth your while. Did DH end up going to Germany?

DH got promoted on Friday so that means a bit more money which is all good.

Cheap drinks all good. You've definitely gotta take advantage of all the perks available.

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 08 September 2008 at 7:03pm

I am totally hanging out for the end of November - that is when Nigels gets his payrise!!!



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Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 08 September 2008 at 7:36pm
Yay . Apparently it's only an extra $87 a fortnight but it's better than nothing.

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 08 September 2008 at 7:41pm

His is a big one, almost double what he is one now too.

And Emz I woul totally be the same I would rather him be overseas as well at least it is getting a bit more money.



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Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 08 September 2008 at 7:43pm
Double pay is all good but I guess he isn't being paid too much while he's training.

How much longer will you be in Waiouru for?

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 09 September 2008 at 9:43am

No not all that much while training (well what we get in the hand is pretty much nothing) but once they graduate it goes up so much (and more for him as he has a degree).

Still not sure how long we are here for. If we go back home we will leave here in January.



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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 09 September 2008 at 1:42pm
ooo payrises are great, DH managed to get a paycut with the new system even though on paper it said he got a $8k payrise. Work that one out So we lost $60 a week.

No Sally DH didn't go to Germany as he's still assigned to corp training. He was supposed to go after only doing 1 corp training and he's on his third. He's not a happy chappy but as a compromise they're going to put him at the top of the list for deployment nominations to Afghanistan next year. He refused to go back to Timor yet again so he's holding out for an Afghan deployment as he had fun there last time. I told him he just has to make sure he knocks me up first lol


Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 09 September 2008 at 2:12pm

Yeah we got a paycut too when they had that last round. What does you DH do Emz??



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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 1:14pm

Well I am now hanging out to get back home to Palmy. I keep looking at my ticker thinking not long to go not long to go.



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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 3:06pm
Aww Becks - I hope you guys sort something out that suits both of you.

To answer your last question (which I obviously never saw, I wasn't just being a rude tart, I promise!): DH is a soldier in 2nd/1st. (Lance Corp). Usually he's a gunner in the heavy weapons platoon but lately he's been Section Commander on Corp Training's, and now is on his Junior NCO's promotion course.


Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 3:27pm
Emz re your last post, if DH takes a promotion to Akl we lose 4k a year, he only gains 2k in his salary, and we'd lose our accommodation supplement of 6k. Doesn't encourage promotion options.

Hang in their ladies, its tough coming second to the service and even harder doing it away from home.

The one thing keeping DH in is his super money, we'll have our house paid off when he's done his time.


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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 3:29pm

I think I would feel so much better if I was back home, back in my own environment and back with friends. I know Nigel had a meeting with his GO today so hopefully that has helped.



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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 4:07pm
I often feel like this, and I go up to Akl and stay with my Dad for a week or two on my own, I usually find after a few days I miss DH and want to go back home.

Sometimes I do feel pulled in both directions, and it can't be easy when your DH is struggling.

I went through this a few years ago, when the skyhawks were disbanded, supporting DH in his decision to stay in the airforce and not move to Wellington to be with me was the hardest thing I've ever had to do. It was his career over my own personal happiness.

Have you asked Nigel why he doesn't want to be in the Army anymore? and what he would do instead?
Being in the military does have great rewards especially as an officer. I know a couple of guys who have been in for a few years, they're on great pay and enjoy the work.

Is there someone who's been around a while Nigel could talk to, give him something to look forward to once the training is over. I've been told nothing is harder than the first year, so if he can get through this it will get easier.

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 5:23pm

The reason for him not wanting to be in the Army is because the officers that are training them are infantry and they are wan*ers (and I believe it as I have met a few).

I am sure that once the next 7 weeks are done it will be better.



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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 5:31pm

And thanks Emz, good to know that it often happens them wanting to leave the army.



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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 8:22pm
hehe Becks re the infantry comment, you'll find that the infantry and pretty much everyone else hate officers so he'll have to toughen up! Just like how most people hate 'pogues' (anyone other than a soldier pretty much).


Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 8:27pm

These are infantry officers that are wan*kers, the guys they have being doing training with that are infantry soliders were really good with them as most of them don't want to go into infantry so they won't be their boss (as such). The officers up here that are doing the training are like infantry is the best nothing else is the actual Army - just being dicks.



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Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 09 October 2008 at 3:07pm
How are things going with Nigel now Becks? I hope he's resumed speaking to you so you two can sort something out.

What are infantry officers exactly? Seems they're w..kers anyway!

I have never really heard my DH say he wants to leave the navy. A couple of years ago he started talking about setting up his own business but the reality is we just couldn't afford it now. I am all for him staying in as the financial aspect of it is really good... and getting sent to the UK for a year isn't bad either.

I guess I knew what I was getting into when I married him, not that that helps much when you're stuck on your own in Siberia . I don't mind living in Auckland but it is quite far away from all my family.

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 09 October 2008 at 3:18pm

Yeah it just came down to there is only 7 weeks left why waste nearly 40 weeks of training with that short amount of time. And he was just angry over a few things that had happened but all good now.

Some of the officers are so far up themselves its not funny. We had dinner at the OCS bar on Tuesday night and the kids were there (as were the other staff's children) and some of the officers were looking down on us as we had the children there - they weren't even doing anything noisy either. They think they are better than everyone (well the ones doing OCS are like that).



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Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 09 October 2008 at 3:28pm
That's great Becks, 7 weeks will be over & done with in no time at all .

Eeek, some of the army officers sound a tad arrogant . I've never really come across that in the navy, with the ones I've met at least.



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Posted By: Mikaela
Date Posted: 09 October 2008 at 10:52pm
7 weeks isn't long at all! It'll fly by

I haven't had much to do with the army so I haven't experienced what you have with the army officers. Certainly the navy officers I know aren't like that, so you must have just struck a bad bunch down there. That sucks.

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 12:02am

I think it is just where they come from as well - as there are a few of the officers that are really cool (one always talks to me in the OCS bar all the time).

Not long to go and it is all over and done with.



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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 7:50am
I've had a bit to do with Army officers and yes they are arrogant, and think the sun shines out of ykw.

I think the ones that are trainers are the worst.
The wives are even worse!

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Posted By: Danaj
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 8:06am
Hi Ladies,

I didn't know about this thread!!

My DH is a SPR at 2FD here in Linton. He's in Timor at the mo and due home on 3 short weeks!!!!!! He's going to get the shock of his life when he sees me lol. I've expanded ever so slightly

And, last week he got his last sign off making him a fully qualified chippie. Love the army as his pay doesn't increase till July with back pay but gee, the army mess us around with money? Never!!

We are in the housing area but are hoping to buy our own place in the next year or so. How's everyone finding the new housing allowance over DTLS? has it had an impact? Oh to be an officer where the new pay structure actually has some benefits to it.

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 9:23am

We don't notice the pay for another 7 weeks (7 weeks today!!!), and then I can talk about that. We have very cheap housing here and after talking with a Major yesterday, if I get the job up here she told me I would be better off staying here for the year and then I have a better chance of getting a straight transfer with the school when it moves to Linton.

Does anyone know what "Beat the Retreat" is?? I was told that if I get the job (well the way the Major was talking yesterday I think (and hope) I have it, that I would be required to attend it - but I would be attending it anyway as it is for the Officer Cadets. I know it has the army band and they play the whole 1812 (I love it) complete with Canons!!! But that is all I know. And she (the Major) told me that if I get the job the day of Nigel's graduation would be a paid day off that isn't AL as I am required to attend an army funtion for my husband.



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Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 9:46am
Never heard of "Beat the Retreat" Becks. it seems the army has very different lingo to the navy.

Hi Dana, I really have no idea how the new pay thing & housing allowance will work . DH has tried to explain it to me many times but it still confuses me. All I need to know is how much extra he'll get paid . We are in the process of selling our little 2-bedroom unit & shifting into a navy rental (much bigger - yay). So we will lose some $$ but the rent we will pay will be cheap. With Liam full-on moving now, we NEED the extra space asap!   

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Posted By: Danaj
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 10:26am
Hi Sally,

So you're going to be in Devonport? I grew up on the shore and Devonport was an old stomping ground for us.

DH spent 5 years in the airforce, now 6 in the army and his sister spent a few years in the Navy too before getting thrown out for being drunk on duty so many times lol. She was the first female to go down the line to Chch i'm told. (I forget what they call the military prison down there).

This new pay thing is confusing. It looks great if you're an officer but we've lost a big chunk of DH's super as the contributions have dropped. Looks like they're trying to push everyone over to Kiwisaver which is sucky as the contributions are way lower.

And ANOTHER rent increase GGGRRRRRR. It's still cheap but I want a redec if we're paying this much LOL. Don't like my chances though

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 10:55am

We were lucky that the rent went up just as wel moved so we were told that it shouldn't go up for a while and really it doesn't really need to here.

We have a house inspection here on Tuesday so this weekend I am going to doing a big tidy and clean up so that it is all good here. I can't wait for them to come as our fire is stuffed and we have had 3 people come over and look at it ans they haven't fixed it so we may get a new one - well I hope so.



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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 11:00am

I just found out that all the services do the "beat the retreat" but I have no idea what they do at it. I know the band is there to play and they march and the evening bugle is not played.



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Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 12:23pm
We already live in Devonport so we won't be shifting too far .

I think you guys down the line pay the same rent as us in Akld? $130 a week or something like that? It seems a pretty fair price considering what it would cost to rent privately around these parts.

Lol at your SIL Dana . That's a pretty good effort I must say.

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 12:27pm

Ours is cheaper Sally less than $100 a week.



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Posted By: Danaj
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 1:40pm
We're going up to about $135.00 on the 6th Nov. We're in the standard housing which is the brick and tile. There are nicer houses around that we could apply for but the back yards are heaps smaller and the high ceilings make them hard to heat. We got a log burner installed a couple of years back and the interior is pretty tidy. I like our little house, it's cosy and our neighbors are generally pretty sane.

Pain in the bum those house inspections. We had one about a month after we moved in but haven't had one in over three years now. Weird.

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 1:50pm

Yeah I found it strange that we have one only after 4 months of living here but thats ok if it is the only one we have.

I don't think they can really put our rent up here anymore (well hopefully they can't).



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Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 2:15pm
Hopefully they don't Becks. I reckon that's enough to pay for Waiouru at least.

The navy rentals around here are all ex-state houses but are generally in an ok condition. They're slowly upgrading them with fences, decks etc. They're doing some painting in the one we're moving to so that'll help improve it a bit. I'm just looking forward to having more space, I don't really mind!

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Posted By: Danaj
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 2:20pm
Our rent has gone up consistently every year. Still cheaper than town though and I like not having to deal with a landlord. Our prop manager is pretty cool and any probs are dealt with quickly.

There are some horrid houses down here though. I was still in Akl when Rob got us the house and he declined three before we got this one. I'm happy here until we're in a better position to afford a mortgage without living on two minute noodles.

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Posted By: Mikaela
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 3:10pm
We've never had an inspection here! Or not that they've told us about anyway! And our rent has gone up steadily every year too but it's still way cheaper than we'd pay anywhere else for a 3br with a huge yard in central Takapuna

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Posted By: Mikaela
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 3:25pm
Ooh and Sally you guys must be moving soon! Looks like you have an address? PM me!

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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 4:11pm
Dana what did your DF do in the airforce? My DH has been at Ohakea for the last 12 years.
We were in a married quarter in Bulls for four years, ours was the only one with polished floors.
We bought our own home in Feilding 2 years ago, and I know a couple of airforce guys who have used the accommodation supplement to buy their own house, I like the fact it stays the same each year, with DTLS it was based on the balance of your mortgage. Means as the mortgage goes down we get more towards it yay!

We never had an inspection in the 4 years we were in Bulls, apart from being told to cut the lawns there wasn't much else from housing.

I thought 'Beat the Retreat' was something they do in the messes? or on parade? I've only been to a couple of parades and that was ages ago.

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Posted By: Danaj
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 6:26pm
Hi Fleury, DH was Air Security at Whenuapai. Seems like a life time ago now. He wanted to transfer to the army to do his Chippie app but they said no so he put his papers in and off he went to Waiouru. That was nearly six years ago......

I just had a chat to a mate who is an NCO. He seemed to think Beat the Retreat was the official graduation but that was all he knew about OCS.

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 6:46pm

I know it is the night before the big graduation day so maybe it is just part of the whole grad week.

I don't think we will see Nigel now till the beginning of November. They had an admin exercise starting tomorrow night and he doesn't know if he will be home at night and then strat into the all arm last exercise before they are commissioned!!!



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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 11 October 2008 at 8:59am
Not long to go for him, good on him for sticking with it. I'm sure when he graduates he'll feel a great sense of achievement. He'll be setting an awesome example to Andrew, who sounds keen to follow in Daddy's footsteps.

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Posted By: Danaj
Date Posted: 13 October 2008 at 12:58pm
Hi Becks,

DH said that Beat the Retreat refers specifically to the parade which is very long, drawn out and intricate. It's based off a very old classic tradition for the officers. He said it's cool to watch and is done to the beating of drums and every one is in full get up. It's about an hour long and is followed by tea and scones lol.

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 13 October 2008 at 1:23pm

Haha tea and scones, I doubt that here . I am looking forward to the 1812 being done in it. I know afterwards we have to attend dinner (so I should get the grandparents up that night to have the children ).

They are currently doing their 2nd to last exercise that is an admin one. My uncle wants to take us to Mowhanga (the lake on Army land) to go fishing (and we get fish out of it too!!!) so fingers crossed we can do that after he comes back from his last exercise.



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Posted By: Danaj
Date Posted: 13 October 2008 at 2:04pm
He also said that it is followed by snifters of bwandy (in a terrible english accent impersonation) LOL.

He enjoyed watching it but it was very long and he said kids would probably get bored and play up as it goes on for so long.

Just make sure the fish is gutted and filleted before you get it as your "Tummy Bug" might not agree with it

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 13 October 2008 at 3:15pm

Yuck I hate brandy so I will pass on that. I was told it is a big deal (must be as there is only one graduation a year) up here and almost everyone goes to it.

My uncle always does that job (or the butcher in the case of the huge amount of venision we got yesterday), my tummy bug I am sure was just a tummy bug. It does feel like AF is on her way. If it was a few months on (like this happened in December) I would be hoping I was pregnant!!!



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Posted By: Danaj
Date Posted: 17 October 2008 at 10:28am
Hi Ladies,

I have to pick DH on the 31st at Ohakea. Yay!!!

I always get lost there. Where abouts is Air Movements if coming through the main gate? DH said just to take a left and keep going round but he always sends me in the wrong direction!! I've been there before but can't remember where it is for the life of me.

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 17 October 2008 at 11:05am

I always ask when I get to the guard hut as I get lost as well. But it sounds right, to turn left and something about a roundabout and the parking is across the road.

We are now a military family as I can working for the School of Artiliary. I start on the 28th of October.



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Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 17 October 2008 at 12:22pm
Well done on the job Becks. I hope you got your paperwork/security clearance "issues" sorted.

Yay Dana for your DH coming home. Will he be home for a while now?

We've finally got a date for shifting into our new house - 2 weeks time! Yay I'm happy about that

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 17 October 2008 at 12:27pm

Thanks Sally, it has just been sorted. I had immigration call me and I am a NZ Citizen by decent and as such an NZ citizen. I can still call myself a permanent resident, but for this job I am a citizen.

Yay 2 weeks till you move - will they move you or do you have to do it??



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Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 17 October 2008 at 12:35pm
Nah, we have to it do. We'll get some helpers to help so it shouldn't be too bad. I think I'll be tasked with keeping an eye on Liam now that's he's crawling. Could be interesting . Sounds better to me than lifting heavy objects

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