is it ur choice??
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Forum Description: Had a caesarian section? Planning an elective caesar? Or a VBAC? Or want to know about recovering from a c-section? Talk to other mums who have had c-section deliveries here.
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Topic: is it ur choice??
Posted By: NeoshasMummy
Subject: is it ur choice??
Date Posted: 11 March 2008 at 3:55pm
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So I had a c section for my daughter because she was a big girl 8 14 and after 2 days in hospital going through labour with pitocin AND contractions every 3 mins for 6 hours I couldnt get past 2cm!!!! Anyway when they were getting out they said she was very large and in a awkward position that she never would have been able to get out of. Now we are trying to conceive and the midwife that I had for my last pregnancy was AGAINST csections told me that there was no reason I should have another one becasue that was just a one off. I wouldnt have even had one last time if it wasnt for the intervention of another nurse at the hospital while mine went home to watch "americas next top model". After speaking to my mum she said she had csections with bother her babies for not preogressing as well and we werr 7lb 2 and 7lb 8 so what do u guys think? Will I get to choose or not? I am getting a different mw this time the last one doesnt want to listen to me.
BTW I would like to have another csection because I def dont want a repeat labour like last time I was actually passing out from pain. Was posterior. But I am a slightly bigger girlo so maybe they wont want to? (read that on someone elses post) |
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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 11 March 2008 at 4:00pm
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As far as I know if you have had one c/s then you are offered an elective with subsequent pregnancies, however I think most obs will encourage you to try a labour if at all possible. You will get to see an obs at around 7 months to discuss the options, if they think that you are likely to end up with the same problems then they might be happy to just book you in for an elective. ------------- 
 
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 11 March 2008 at 4:39pm
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You'll have an appt with a hospital OB/reg towards the end of second tri to discuss your options, you can elect to have a second c-sect but Cuppatea is right, there is a push towards trialling labour. However, no one should force you to try for a VBAC unless you are comfortable with the idea.
Bear in mind tho that a high number of posterior babies end up being sectioned, and that statistically first babies are more likely to be posterior than subsequent ones. Having had a long, posterior labour with a giant baby myself I can see why you aren't keen to repeat the experience, but if your next baby is anterior you might find that you have a completely different birth experience, and you may well be able to deliver vaginally. But you do have to be 100% happy with the plan, so it's important to find a midwife that supports what you want, whether it be a VBAC or an elective, and to make sure that she supports you when you go to see the hospital OB's. -------------  Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 11 March 2008 at 6:05pm
^ ^ what cuppatea said  I have had a VBAC if you want to PM any questions------------- |
Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 11 March 2008 at 7:27pm
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sorry why wouldnt they want to if you are bigger?...i def will be opting for another one after my experience last time(sortof similar to yours) ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 11 March 2008 at 7:55pm
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Sections are more difficult if you are bigger, there are more layers to cut thru. My friend had an OB whinge at her about her weight and what a "difficult" c-sect it was going to be and that she needed to lose weight. WHILE she was in labour! ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 11 March 2008 at 8:47pm
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did she tell him to ^&*& off:)! ok thanks for clarifying.. i intend to be 20kg less(done 12 so far 20 to go) but man i would hurt someone who said that:) ! maybe that's why my c section was 'difficult' to sew up! ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: NeoshasMummy
Date Posted: 12 March 2008 at 7:47am
lol Im a 16 pretty normal everywhere else in my body like leg wise im a 14 but after my c section I have this tummy that is just blah and requires a 16 so my pants look baggy in the leg and fit in the waist and same with my jackets big up the top but not down bottom. lol its the biggest part of me  Docs can be so rude though!!!!!!!!!!!! I gained about 30kg in my last pregnancy even though I wrote everything that I ate down and never had takeaways it was just so weird but all they said was I was eating the wrong foods and making myself and the baby fat. In fact when they realised my 8lb 14 baby wasnt going to come out I was told it was because of my "eating for 2" even though it never happened. I still believe something else was wrong to this very day lol. 15kgs from that pregnancy still hang around and im trying to lose them now... very hard after a baby I find
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 12 March 2008 at 10:44am
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LOL and I put on bugger all having Maya due to hyperemesis and she was over 9lb!
And nope, my friend was too gobsmacked to say a word to the OB, we were both in shock, even the midwife was like "WTF?! Is he serious?!" ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: NeoshasMummy
Date Posted: 12 March 2008 at 11:04am
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That is just so horrible!!!!
They can be really heartless and being pregnant with all those hormones makes it so much harder |
Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 12 March 2008 at 11:04am
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far out i cant believe some docs!! ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: NeoshasMummy
Date Posted: 12 March 2008 at 11:14am
| kawwww ur baby is so cute |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 12 March 2008 at 1:28pm
Yup. I know most of the OB's working out of Akl hospital in one way or another and this one has a reputation for being a bit of a w*nk. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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kawwww wrote:Posted By: CuriousG
Date Posted: 12 March 2008 at 1:35pm
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My auntie had the horror birth with her first and she demanded a c section for her second. They did try to convince her otherwise but she stood her ground. She even got to chose the date! ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 12 March 2008 at 1:39pm
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neo thankyou:) i just dont get why you would be a doc or ob if you are a w*nk! get a job without dealing with people.. or maybe better still learn to be professional!:)
I'm pretty sure i will have a battle on my hands about the 2nd c section.. but that is the way i will be going.. (scary thought though) edited to edit the work w*nk as it didnt get edited by itself:) ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 12 March 2008 at 1:46pm
LOL, i wasn't sure whether it would or not so I edited it myself 
I've always wondered why so many men are OB's tho, it must be an ego trip or something? Mind you, the best OB's I know are all men. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 12 March 2008 at 6:30pm
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OMG as far as I know when you see the OB at about 28 weeks you can discuss the options then with them. If you want it (and I don't blame you after that experience) then I can't see why they won't give it to you. I know in Palmy there would be no problem with you having the c section 2nd time round. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: 15 March 2008 at 10:35am
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I was told that as I'd had an elective the first time the hospital would expect me to try for a VBAC. However my MW advised me that if I fronted up with the cost for the OB then obviously there's no prob with a second elective.
I think the rules are different for electives as opposed to emergency c-sects though as there's probably less trauma to the body during an elective (as you haven't laboured first). -------------  
 
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 15 March 2008 at 12:20pm
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And with an elective it's often due to a "one off" like malpresentation of baby so there's no obstetric reason not to try for a VBAC, whereas with emergencies it can often be coz of pelvic disproportion or fails to progress which can reoccur. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: AnnC
Date Posted: 15 March 2008 at 7:01pm
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just to let you know my first was a large baby (9lb 5oz) and was posterior very long labour (42 hours all up with little progress and over 2 hours pushing) but I had VBAC with him he got stuck onmy plevic bone and came out with a huge bruise on his head... he finally made an apperance!!!! .... anyway my second labour was a dream labour - did all the hard work at home, got to hospital within just over half hour there she was - 2 pushes she was out, and she wasn't a tiny baby although not as big as my first (8lb 6oz) perfect position and all. total labour time 4 1/2 hours (and only half hour was bad) So the point I am trying to say is - IF the only reason for wanting a ceasar is because of a labour and nothing medically preventing you from vbac you might have a breeze the next labour... of cause this isn't always the case. ------------- Ann 
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 15 March 2008 at 7:05pm
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that is very true but i think maybe she is like me...scared of what happened last time and not willing to risk it? ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: AnnC
Date Posted: 15 March 2008 at 7:08pm
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I am probably a little biased as I had an elective ceasar with rhyley and would take a VBAC over a ceasar anyday (as long as the labour with like Brooke LOL shame I can't pick and choose ) ------------- Ann
Also Mum to Josh (15) and Brooke (10) |
Posted By: Neeks
Date Posted: 18 March 2008 at 1:03pm
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Keziah was posterior, brow presentation... and still they wouldn't give me a c-section stating that "I could do it"....3 hours later and no further forward THEN they said "We're going to try 3 options, 1: Ventouse 2: Forceps 3: C-Section if the other 2 don't work.."
I went through the wringer and she was getting so exhausted.. she was trying so hard to come down but in the end the c-section won.. she got as far as crowning before the ventouse cup popped off her head (taking a good quantity of skin with it). C-Section took AGES (well so it seemed) she was born with APGARS of 5 & 7 and spent 4 hours in the NICU with a CPAP to clear her lungs. Next time I have to have an elective big "C" and it's on my notes so they have to follow trough no matter what -------------  
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Posted By: AnnC
Date Posted: 18 March 2008 at 9:29pm
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aww sounds awful. as i said Josh labour was a nightmare but he finally came out along with a huge bruise on his head (side) where he got stuck on my pelvic bone (posterior baby too)..... sorry don't get me wrong I am not saying Ceasars are an easy way out or inferror to VBAC nor too posh to push as famously known as. In the end I think what ever gets the mother and child thru the birth safely is what needs to be done (hence my elective ceasar as it was best for both of us). Just wanted to say after a horror first birth my second was p#ss easy and could have 10 of those ------------- Ann
Also Mum to Josh (15) and Brooke (10) |
Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 19 March 2008 at 4:46am
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neeks- yes same for me..he got a 3 :( and for me its not worth the risk to him ..i'm sure I'll have a fight on my hands about it though... ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: Neeks
Date Posted: 19 March 2008 at 3:12pm
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Wow a 3?? That's quite bad.. was he Jaundice too kawwww?
Keziah was borderline for needing a transfusion but spent 12 hours under the lights at 5 days old (after being home for a night we got called back in) she came right thankfully... She's been a real fighter since day dot -------------
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Posted By: Smartmum
Date Posted: 21 March 2008 at 7:48pm
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I have just seen the specialist at 26 weeks after having an elective c section with my daughter, the specialist told me the risks and noted that i want an elective ,but would prefer i think about the risks before confirming.....I will be having another c section though and will let him know next week!
Yes it is your choice if you have had a c section before. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Mookey
Date Posted: 21 March 2008 at 8:50pm
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Smartmum, if you don't mind me asking, what do they say are the risks with having a 2nd c-sec?
I had an emergency c-sec with DS, as I failed to progress and then my obstetrician said I have CPD (cephalapelvic disproportion), so would need to have an elective next time around, which I'm happy with (better the devil you know and all that). Planning on having # 2 by the end of next year. Just wondering what I'm in for? ------------- http://www.cushytush.co.nz - |
Posted By: Two Blondinis
Date Posted: 21 March 2008 at 9:24pm
I read up a bit of info for 2nd time CS's ages ago and all seemed to be the same risks as with the first unless you go into labour - then the risk of uterine rupture increases (but this is still a very small minority). Whatever you do - DON'T google it! I did and you'd think every CS had a uterus tear in half! 
I've had discussions with my old MW and my gnae spec and both said that any medical professional will try to talk you out of having an elective (unless there is no way you can have a VBAC) but at the end of the day it is YOUR body! If your spec refuses - find someone else! ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
 
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 22 March 2008 at 6:13am
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neeks-yes but not bad enough for lights..though doc at 6 week checkup said hes lovely a healthy but has some jaundice still....
yes 3 is bad..hence I'm not risking what happened last time:(! ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: AnnC
Date Posted: 22 March 2008 at 10:53am
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Josh got Jaundince really bad on day one - got taken down to Neo nates and spent a few days under the lights, he had to be tube fed for a little while and was very close to a bloods trans (Which I volenteered my blood for it as he had the same type as me - they never said if they could do this as their answer was 'we will wait and see if hasnt come down in a couple of hours then we will talk more about it' - lucky he did start to drop so no transfusion yay)
wow abgars 3 - I think most of mine were 9 then 10 (although I think Josh was a lil under that 7 then 9 I think but don;t have notes for him so not 100% ------------- Ann
Also Mum to Josh (15) and Brooke (10) |
Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 22 March 2008 at 12:37pm
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ann-average is 7.....theres a few on here (KylahsMum for example had a 1) that had under 7....:( but then he had 10 at 5 and 10 mins..so that was awesome ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: Smartmum
Date Posted: 23 March 2008 at 6:03pm
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75% chance of succesful VBAC.
1 in 3000 chance of mother and or baby dying. No different to an emergency c-section or elective first time around. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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