neocate (again)
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Topic: neocate (again)
Posted By: ElfsMum
Subject: neocate (again)
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 11:45am
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i cant be bothered ringing the helpline..you guys are better:) i know greenish poos are normal (sorry Emma i know i already asked a few times:) ) but his poo is every second day(iassume thats normal after goign from once every feed when bf) and he has no trouble giong just its greeny black.. the helpine lady said black was bad but its more like a licorice colour(though looks black as i change him in the dark)
and I'm already giving him 150 mls(5 scoops) and he's mostly finishing the bottle.. is it normal that it took a week of being really unsettled and now he's sleeping almost back to normal etc..while i got used to it? was like it was when he was first born for a week or so between 2-3 hours or so and then monday night he did 6 hours(then i woke him as it was 11pm) and then he was up every two hours!!! but today is back to normal... oh and totally unrelated..any tips for getting him used to not being wrapped and for weaning him off dummy? or am i cruel to do that now? ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
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Posted By: Kellz
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 11:54am
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I would recommend waiting to everything is a bit more settled down - unless him being warapped or having dummy are causing u a lot of problems? You are both going through lots of changes as it is!
I dont like the sound of licorice colored poo,..and along with the unsettledness,..I would get him checked by Dr. Save a poo before u go- they will wanna look- u can get a container from the dr first so u dont have to take in the gross nappy! As long as he isnt constipated, I wouldnt worry that hes now only pooing once every 2 days. It makes since that it has taken him a bit to get used to the neocate too,...his whole gastic system is delicate and would have had to adjust to something new! |
Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 12:13pm
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hmm Emma's bubs had greeny poos:) he's not unsettled anymore....:) well just monday.. we go to the paed on tuesday..do you think it can wait till then?
so other people's bubs on neocate still had normal poos? ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 12:48pm
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ithink dummy making him more unsettled as he wakes when he drops it! ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 12:52pm
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We swapped Spencer after we had started solids so was a bit hard to tell. I would be concerned about licorice poos as well. Can't hurt to go to the doc about for peace of mind if nothing else.
Also I wouldn't stop wrapping until he loses the startle reflex which is at about 6 months unless he wants to drop it first. One of the worst things i did was thinking that Spencer didn't like being wrapped, plunket wrapped him again at 3 months and it improved his sleeping soooooo much. As for the dummy perhaps try getting him to sleep with out and just giving it when he is really unsettled and then hopefully he will slowly reduce how much he relies on it. ------------- 
 
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Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 1:16pm
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This is out of the Neocate Q and A booklet (have you got the food allergy kit?)...
you may notice a change in the colour of your baby's stools (ranging from khaki to dark green or even black), and differences in the wind your baby produces. This is perfectly normal , particularly if your baby is recieving little or no food. Neocate is a low residue formula. Low residue formulas lower the number of bacteria in the gut leading to reduced breakdown of bile. More bile is present in the stool making it greener in colour. Greer was having black sticky yuck poos for a few days, but now they are just really really dark, and every few days. ------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 |
Posted By: Kellz
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 1:29pm
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Oh thats good to know Aimee. Isla was never 'offically' on neocate so I dont have that info - didnt get anything with the Pepti.
We started Isla on a dummy at a few weekd old, ..and got rid of it about 4 months cos she got to the stage she was needing us to go back and put it in everytime she woke, and was driving me nuts. A good trick I was shown at the mother craft unit at waikato hospital was threading a flannel through the end of the dummy,..so that the flannel sort of props it up a bit so it doesnt fall away. Mind you Isla was always wrapped and side slept cos she couldnt settle on her back (due to reflux). So might not work if sleeping on his back. I wrapped Isla til 10 months 
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 3:09pm
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Ethan hates being wrapped..we only do it cause he sleeps better..
thanks aimee...no i havent got that book..but i assume paed will give me info..the neocate lady when i asked her last time said green was fine..and it would be permanent till solid food.. kellz-yeah thats why for the dummy..and other peoples babies dont need them:) i think its afecting his sleep....but sometimes ..like this morning he didnt care adn slept without it (though that doesnt happen often) adn with it he has been able to go straight back to sleep at night time(except for the unsettledness ) without us puttin i t back in..its just during the day...and as far as unsettled forst 3 days was really bad then unsettled at day and fine at night (5-7 hours) then weird again monday and great again last night and today..babies eh:) as for wrapping as i said he hates it..and fights it everytime but will sleep much better..so not sure what to do:(! i will phase it out certainly by 6 months as they say it affects development(not sure i beleive that) but hopefully have it sorted by then..I'm not one for weaning..probably go cold turkey on the wrap..:) but probably not on the dummy..he loves sucking his hand but obviously cant if wrapped:) ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 7:13pm
Yup, my babies always had greenish-black poos till they were on solids, them Neocate poos is naaaasty! (so is regurgitated Neocate) 
The gremlins never had dummies coz I tried them (I tried EVERYTHING to make them sleep!) but I spent more time getting up to put the dummies back in their mouths than they did actually sucking them so I gave up and they had to learn to sleep on their own. As for wrapping, I wrapped all of my girls till about 7 months, if Ethan likes to suck his hand, you could always wrap him with one arm out, that way he has the security of the wrap still but is able to comfort suck. My Sienna was a one arm bandit. -------------  Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 7:21pm
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wrapping with one hand hasnt worked so fa but havent tried if for a few weeks.. if he wakes in the night we have to re wrap him and put dummy back in before sleep happens again..but he will get used o it..i think i will try still wrapping with one arm out and no dummy:) ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: Kellz
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 7:31pm
| Yeah I would try the one arm out thing. Try some sort of distraction like a mobile etc while wrapping him maybe? |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 8:24pm
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The other thing is, are your wraps big enough? Bigger babes need wraps that are at least 1mx1m and most of the wraps you can buy are only 85x85. The Sleep Store has some info on swaddling older babes, I had to get new wraps for my girls coz they could houdini out of the smaller ones too easily. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: Kellz
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 8:29pm
| Good point Emma! We used home made wraps (material from spotlight) that were really really wide, so I could really strap her in! Lol! |
Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 8:40pm
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I made some out of an old queen size sheet - got three out of it. And cot sheets are good for wraps too, thats what we are using a lot of now. ------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 10:13pm
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Yup, we used flannelette cot sheets too. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: arohanui
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 10:19pm
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I have some AWESOME wraps that are really big. I think they're about $20 for 3 (at Farmers I think?), they're stretchy cotton. They're called bunny rugs and they're by mother's choice. ------------- Mama to DS1 (5 years), DS2 (3 years) and... http://alterna-tickers.com" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 09 April 2008 at 8:46am
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i just worry about flanelette cause of going over his face..we use the ones from the baby factory muslin.. they are pretty big.. but i will have a look when he gets up.. arohanui i will have a look when I'm there next:) ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: pekemoemum
Date Posted: 11 April 2008 at 10:19am
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you porbably have your answser, but yep, we had green/black poos?! :)
and I agree, I'd get / make a bigger wrap :) all the best! ------------- Gina, Reef 15/6/03, Tyde 12/2/07 http://www.pekemoe.co.nz - Peke Moe - Unique NZ Made Baby Sleeping bags for babies who get out of swaddle/wrap |