HPV vaccine
Printed From: OHbaby!
Category: Fun Stuff
Forum Name: In the news
Forum Description: Have your say on hot pregnancy and parenting topics in the news!
URL: https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16852
Printed Date: 22 November 2024 at 9:04pm
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 12.05 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: HPV vaccine
Posted By: mum2paris
Subject: HPV vaccine
Date Posted: 01 May 2008 at 7:44pm
|
At the risk of starting a bit of interesting conversation. what are your opinions on this?
I for one, will be getting my girls vaccinated. There are some that say it will encourage girls to have sex. why? how? it doesn't protect against pregnancy, it doesn't protect against all the other ickies out there, and it won't protect their feelings of going into something as big as sex at a young age. If they're going to do it at a young age, it won't be influenced by the vaccine... I just want to know that well, if by some chance my girls decide that they'll do it before they really should, that the effects of their not-great decisions won't come back to bite them in later life in the form of cancer that could have been prevented. I think it's worthwhile. I see where people are coming from not wanting to think of our girls actually having sex, let alone so young, and that abstinence should be taught more. But no matter what, to say that it won't and that it doesn't happen, is wrong and naive. I think it's a great step in taking some action to help prevent something like cervical cancer... don't we all wish we could probably go back to our teenage years and take back things.. i don't want my girls thinking back in years to come going "wow, i wish i hadn't done that " just because they have cancer that could have been prevented. There are so many other nasties out there, the more we can get rid of or prevent, the better. Your opinions? ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja 
|
Replies:
Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 01 May 2008 at 7:47pm
|
I completely agree with everything you said. I looked into it a wee while ago when my friend moved to aussie cos they do it over there but when i asked my doctors here they didnt really know much.
I will be getting Addison vacinated. |
Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 01 May 2008 at 7:51pm
| If I had a girl then I would especially given the issues that I've had with my cervix/smears/ |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 01 May 2008 at 8:12pm
|
I don't see the big link between the vaccine and an increase in sexual behaviour - talking out of a hole in their arses if you ask me (and you did!).
If I had girls - hell yes - well assuming I looked up the risk of the immunisation etc - but if I chose not to, it wouldn't be because I worried about them sleeping around, it would be because I wasn't happy with the clinical side. |
Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 01 May 2008 at 8:35pm
|
Yep totally agree. I dont see how it would encourage sex. I think it should be seen as a health thing, not about sex. ------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 |
Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 01 May 2008 at 8:55pm
|
If I had girls they would so be getting it. With all my issues I have had I wouldn't want to take the risk. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 01 May 2008 at 8:57pm
|
how does it differ from vaccinating against rubella (so they dont get that when they are pregnant)? We were vaccinated at 11 and I dont remember any great urges to go out and have sex just because I was vaccinated against something.
Did that make sense? Re -reading it didnt to me..Oh well...some poor person might be on my wavelength 
|
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 01 May 2008 at 10:52pm
|
nope, makes sense perfectly. That's exactly what i meant.
Initially they discussed giving it at age 9 to be able to capture all young girls before they were sexually active, however at age 11 the immune response is far better, and everyone thought age 9 was too young. Sadly if you think about it, well, (at the risk of sounding like an old biddy here) IN MY DAY (LOL) it was a big thing at intermediate if you held hands, or kissed a guy on the cheek. Now, it seems it's almost mandatory that you'll have kissed someone - properly, by the end of primary school or intermediate at least, that you'll have a boyfriend/girlfriend by standard 4, and that around 13 you'll be getting into a few more risky things than that. Saly, things are happening earlier. And while certainly don't want to think about it, its the truth. The scariest thing is, in some areas, the 11yr old age for vaccine, will still be too late.  ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
|
Posted By: WestiesGirl
Date Posted: 01 May 2008 at 11:00pm
|
Yep I totally agree too. Prevention is better than cure!
I was lucky enough to be offered it here in Aus for free under the health system here when it was released. You have 3 shots over a 6 month period! First 2 are quite painful (think tetnis (sp?) kinda pain) and the pain can last a good month but the last one is not soo bad. If we have girls we'll be getting them done. ------------- Our Angel July 08  Gone but not forgotten
And to complete our family, our princess has arrived 
|
Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 02 May 2008 at 1:55am
Hmmmm when I was 11 I never thought 'I won't have sex now because I might get the HPV virus and that would lead to cervical cancer'  Maybe it was just me  Blimmin ridiculous.
I like the idea that I have 7 years to decide- unless there are some strong reasons not to get it by then, then both my girls will be having it. ------------- Jen, Charlotte 7 & Kate 3 
|
Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 02 May 2008 at 9:44am
Janine, in MY DAY, I remember dumping a boy by a (return) note passed around the whole class after he sent me one saying that if I didnt meet him behind the bike sheds for a PASH I would be dumped.....too late.. I dumped him first! Pashing boys!!!! YUK YUK YUK was what I thought at 11.
|
Posted By: AliaDawn
Date Posted: 02 May 2008 at 11:16am
|
In my "day" (which was only 7-8 years ago) Barely anyone was out "kissing boys" at intermediate... and certainly no more! but then I've heard it's worse in bigger cities, I grew up in Hastings then Gisborne.
On another note I know 2 guys who lost their virginity very very young, one at 7 by his own choice (he is really creepy and though I wouldn't say nympho, I wouldn't be surprised) and another at 8 by "accident" aka they didn't really know what they were doing. The 2nd guy then ended up being in a sexual relationship with 2 13 year old girls at 11 (at the same time, they were best friends) who did him some serious psychiatric damage... including one telling him the other had died when she moved away. It reminds me that not all kids are nice and innocent... -------------  
 
|
Posted By: MonicaMouse
Date Posted: 02 May 2008 at 11:38am
|
I was having a conversation with my mother about this subject the other day. I asked her that if this jab was around when us girls were younger (I'm the eldest of 3 girls), would she have arranged for us to get it. Without a moment of hesitation she said absolutely. Likewise if B been a girl, or IF we have a number 2 who turns out to be a girl, then yup, there would be a trip to the drs ------------- 
Blair 15/10/2007 Daniel 30/07/2009 |
Posted By: BuzzyBee
Date Posted: 02 May 2008 at 9:39pm
|
A bit OT but I can't believe the age that kids are starting these days!
I do wish however that they had of introduced this vaccine many years ago ...it may have saved me (I will not elaborate as you get the idea ...I've learnt my lesson long and hard & have had to suffer the consequences)
I guess I'm kind of expecting cervical cancer to pop up somewhere down the track, I've already had several smears come back bad and been referred for a few colposcopys before the age of 20...seems to be going back and forth (cells keep changing stages). Every 6 months I require a follow up smear but haven't had a clear one in over 2 years. It's not nice and I wouldn't wish it upon anyone. And TMI but pregnancy was horrible, the HPV really played havoc & I was ridden with them ...spent most of my time at Greenlane getting treatment. But other than during my pregnancy it lies dormant for most part. Can't believe I'm admitting this on a public forum, but I have nothing to be ashamed of. It's something I have to live with. I do urge mothers to HIGHLY consider getting the vaccine for their daughters though. ------------- Single Mum to a darling wee boy of 3 years :) |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 02 May 2008 at 10:04pm
|
No question in this house, my girls WILL be vaccinated. My mum had cervical cancer and had a full hysterectomy at 36.
For those who are interested, I've just posted a press release from The Cancer Society about the HPV vaccination. -------------  Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
|
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 02 May 2008 at 10:52pm
|
oooh thanks Emma, I noticed they had more about it on the news tomight. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
|
Posted By: Kels
Date Posted: 03 May 2008 at 9:26am
|
When it first was available in New Zealand I had already decided that I was prepared to pay for it. I still have to pay for Lesieli. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
Busy mum to Miss 15yrs, Miss 10yrs and Master 4yrs |
Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 03 May 2008 at 10:24am
|
Its a vaccine that helps prevent girls getting a nasty horrible form of cancer, I can't see what the debate is over.
I mean if the choice is between having sex and getting cancer I know what I'd choose. I can't understand people not wanting to protect their daughters from cancer, it seems a no brainer to me. Agree with everything you've said Janine. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">   [/url] Angel June 2012 |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 03 May 2008 at 10:25am
|
Steph - nothing to be ashamed off - RIDICULOUSLY common and TBH I'm just glad when people realise they have it... there are too many people that don't realise and continue on their merry way potentially increasing the numbers of those infected.
And unfortunately HPV doesn't always result in something that you can tell you have. So I may be one of the ones who has a silent strain and have done my fair share of infecting
Sorry - sexual health is one of my passions. Wish more people paid attention to theirs! (Not anyone here People generally)
I think the vaccine is important - ESPECIALLY because it's one of the sexually transmitted viruses that you condoms aren't so successful at protecting against. I don't think it will result in more girls having sex. That is ridiculous. |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 03 May 2008 at 10:51am
|
I personally would like to think that I'd bring my daughters up with more self respect than to be as shamelessly promiscuous as their mother was in her younger days . I think the way they feel about themselves, and the values that I impart to them as they grow up, will have far more impact on their decisions than whether or not they have a vaccine,
IMO the vaccine should be marketed for what it is - a preventative for cervical cancer - and not as a license to have sex. I mean, if you tell a 12-year old that now they've been vaccinated they won't get an STD, of course there's going to be temptation. But if you frame it as a vaccine against cervical cancer and don't even mention the sex angle they'll be oblivious. TBH I think the whole idea that it will encourage promiscuity is just scaremongering from opponents of the vaccine. I mean, we were taught at school that you should use condoms to prevent pregnancy and STD's. Can I honestly say I paid that much attention as a 15, 16, 17-year old? Kids will make up their own minds, and if they are going to be promiscuous they will be. I think it's incredibly shortsighted to blame the vaccine. And don't even get me started on people who oppose sex-ed in schools... come on people, welcome to the 00's! ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
|
Posted By: NeoshasMummy
Date Posted: 03 May 2008 at 7:55pm
|
I will be getting Neosha vaccinated! I has having sex at 15 and didnt even have an idea of what cervical cancer was! I am truly hoping I can prevent Neosha from living her life too quickly the way I have but I also want to have safety for her if she decides which she will that she wants to have sex. ------------- https://secure.fertilityfriend.com/home/30c4ec/" rel="nofollow">  Mrs Te Kani ❤️ Neosha 26/5/2007 |
Posted By: shaz
Date Posted: 04 May 2008 at 8:23pm
|
Been there done that and got the ...
My older girls are 10 and 12 and I will be getting them vaccinated. As soon as I heard about it I'd pretty much made up my mind already. I will have a read of any info released before my final decision. But I am absolutely sure this will not make my girls suddenly run out and have sex. I am pretty open with them and as we watched it on the news I explained the why's how's etc. They know it is something that will help protect them against only one of the many STD's out there. ------------- Mum to Natasha Aroha 9/12/1995, Alexandra Makareta Waimarie 22/4/1998 and....Alyssa Frances Hopaea 18/03/2007 
[/url] |
Posted By: Neeks
Date Posted: 04 May 2008 at 8:31pm
|
Lucretia & Keziah will both be getting vaccinated -------------  
|
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 05 May 2008 at 4:53pm
|
I have a question for those that may not have answered... and they may not read this anyway.
For those that have non-vaxed as babies for other things - would you consider the HPV vaccination? Or would you rule out for the same reasons as the rest? |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 06 May 2008 at 8:56am
|
That's a good questions Nikki, i was wondering the same thing. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
|
Posted By: JPP
Date Posted: 12 May 2008 at 1:10pm
|
I found out I had HPV only once I had gone in for my colposcopy and Leitz biopsy, I had never had any signs of it, had had it for years and not a clue. Apparently it can sit up on your cervix and not flare up outside so a silent one for me. My specialist Dr Blue? Maybe Green hehe at North Shore Hospital told me that it caused my cervical cancer'ish' (caught it just in time apparently) and that had I not been 'such a good girl' hehe and been so regular with my smears it might have been left a little while too long and never been found. If I had girls or the chance myself to have it when I was younger it would be a definate YES! ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://daisypath.com">
|