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Topic: My VBA2Cs Home Waterbirth
Posted By: toniellis
Subject: My VBA2Cs Home Waterbirth
Date Posted: 28 May 2008 at 8:10pm
Just for those who are interested

Monday morning around 5.20am I awoke to a contraction. Thinking nothing much of it I got up & went to the toilet where I had another contraction. I headed back to bed & gave Hubby a little nudge & commented that maybe today was the day… He just cuddled up & sleepily nodded before going back to sleep.
After yet another couple of contractions, I gave Hubby another nudge & told him to wake up so he could time the contractions: roughly 2 &1/2 minutes apart and about a minute long! Okay time to call my midwife!
So around 5.50am I was told to see how things went & to call Ruth back when I felt I needed her. Then I had Hubby call my Mum as I headed to the toilet again.
From the toilet I started telling Hubby what I needed because I was sooo not organised! Main things being to tidy up & get me a hot water bottle because the blimen contractions hurt!
Less than two minutes after getting the hot water bottle though, I was ordering him to run me a bath because the contractions felt so intense & painful. I knew that it was likely that things would slow down with getting into the water so soon but I didn’t care, anything to lessen the pain! And at first it did seem like things were slowing down but then it became intense again. I’m not sure what time it was but I asked Hubby to call Ruth because I couldn’t do it anymore. So she let Hubby know she was on her way.
I think it was about 8am when my Mum arrived with my little sister. Mum came straight in to see me & took over. By now my boys were awake & demanding breakfast so my sister & Hubby sorted them out.
I was crying & telling my Mum that I couldn’t do this & that the pain was too much for me to bear & I wanted to go to hospital for an epidural LOL!
8.10am and Ruth had arrived. She did an internal with me still in the bath and announced that I was not going anywhere as I was about 6 maybe 7 cm dilated! I couldn’t believe it as I had honestly thought I was still in early labour.
It gave me a second wind & with Mum reminding me to breathe through my contractions I carried on as planned.
Hubby had been given the job of setting up & filling the birthing pool which seemed to be keeping him happy & occupied. The second midwife was called & was asked to bring some gas with her. I was looking forward to using that gas!!
15 minutes later though I felt abit of pressure & pushed out membranes so Ruth was quickly on the phone again saying “forget the gas just head straight here”. We live rural so it is abit of a drive.
There was a little bit of meconium in my waters but nothing major & fetal monitoring showed that Bubs was happy still. Also Ruth reassured me that Bubs had most definitely moved from a posterior position to anterior.
I think it was around 9am that I moved from the bath to the birthing pool which was set up in the dining room. Also my Grandma arrived which was a wonderful, lovely surprise. I was feeling the need to push but was worried that I was not dilated enough so resisted the urge & begged Ruth to check me even though she thought I was fully dilated. I think the backup midwife Meredith arrived around 9.30am. Ruth checked me & found I had a small anterior lip on my cervix but was able to push it back so at 9.40am I started pushing!
I felt like a total animal with deep grunts that I couldn’t stop coming out of me as I pushed. I only stopped to ask if the head was moving at all. I think everyone was laughing at me a little bit as I was so anxious to make sure Bubs was coming out in between pushes! I kept putting my hand down to feel the head & it was reassuring to feel the head coming out more & more and quite easily too.
Hubby was sitting behind me (he didn’t want to see anything if he could help it!) while my Mum, Grandma & the two midwives stood watching in the front. Even my sister & boys came to see how everything was going before retreating back to my bedroom with my boys to continue watching videos.

At 9.58am I welcomed my beautiful little girl, Erika, into the world. She was brought out of the water & into my arms after only 18 minutes of pushing.
She weighed in at 8 pound 15 ounces (4.04kg), head circumference of 38cm & length of 52.3cm.
She took to the breast at 10.05am & as I got out of the birthing pool a few minutes later, out came the placenta. No tears, grazes or anything!
It was perfect...


Oh & apparently Hubby did see Bubs head coming out at one point & was soooo not impressed! My midwife laughed at him as he has no worries getting his hands dirty right up to the shoulder when it comes to our cows giving births!!


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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate



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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 28 May 2008 at 8:15pm
Aw that's amazing, thanks for sharing and congratulations on your new arrival

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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 28 May 2008 at 8:29pm
Very cool, couldn't have gone better for you! I'm so excited for ya!

LOL @ your hubby, I was nodding right along with him about not wanting to see the birth (I've tried watching births and almost passed out a few times!)... until the bit about cows. What, he does calf births and can't handle humans? No sympathy any more!!

I still can't believe how fast things went for you! You've had a better VB than I've had, and I've had two of 'em!

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Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 28 May 2008 at 8:34pm
LOL Busymum! Thats what I couldn't get about Hubby! He has helped cows have calves zillions of times but was absolutely positive that he was staying up by my head when I was pushing! He didn't even cut the cord either, although that was okay because I did it

Honestly I don't think I could have a better birthing experience! Although I was a really big wuss about the pain from the contractions, the actual pushing was easy enough.

I keep thinking that it was all a dream though! LOL

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 28 May 2008 at 8:59pm
Aww I had tears you really got the perfect birth, I'm so happy and proud for you

I love the name too, well done toni


Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 28 May 2008 at 9:03pm
Oh wow that is amazing! You go girl and welcome to Erika!

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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 28 May 2008 at 9:09pm
happy tears for you too here..

congrats on a job well done and a beautiful name too!!!

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Posted By: Kellz
Date Posted: 28 May 2008 at 9:11pm
Awww Im in tears! How amazing! Congratulations! That gives me some hope that maybe having #2 could be better than my experience first time around.


Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 28 May 2008 at 9:46pm
   i'm a blithering mess!

what an awesome birth toni...well done hun!!!

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Posted By: james
Date Posted: 28 May 2008 at 9:47pm
aww hu im soo happy for you i know you relly wanted and needed this to happen and look awww i,ve got th sivers now a big congrats

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 28 May 2008 at 11:40pm

I am so happy for you Toni for getting what you wanted.



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I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived!


Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 29 May 2008 at 8:47am
Awww Toni, that sounds like an awesome birth experience for you. It is the most amazing feeling when everything goes so well isnt it - I still feel like Greers birth was a dream! Well done

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Aimee

Hannah 22/10/05
Greer 11/02/08


Posted By: Two Blondinis
Date Posted: 29 May 2008 at 10:18pm
I'm sitting here balling my eyes out for you Toni! I'm so happy for you. It all sounded so perfect (and QUICK!), especially to have 4 generations there (your nanna, your mum, you and Erika )

You're a legend! Well done hun and welcome baby Erica

So are you going to go see those OBs now and gloat that you did it?

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Posted By: Shorty
Date Posted: 30 May 2008 at 11:50am
Aw that is so nice and so well deserved.
Wellcome Erica


Posted By: caraMel
Date Posted: 30 May 2008 at 12:52pm
I've got a few tears too! What an awesome birth, and so special to do it with your Mum and Grandma there too!
I'm so glad you got the birth you wanted!

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Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and:



Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 30 May 2008 at 1:01pm
Aww well done! Great birth! Welcome baby Erika. What a Toni!


Posted By: .Mel
Date Posted: 31 May 2008 at 10:51am

I've only just seen this.  What a great birth for you and Erika.  Congrats on your wee girl!  She's going to give those boys a run for their money



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Miss Attitude (8)
Destructa Kid (3)



Posted By: Roksana
Date Posted: 13 June 2008 at 10:53am
OH WOW....Gives the rest of us hope that we can do this too (may be not at home....LOL).

I am a bit behind but Congrats on your little girl.
Amazing story! thanks so much for sharing!!


Well done you....

My DH is the same, there is no way he is looking "Down There" when baby is being born....Silly men!

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Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 14 June 2008 at 8:59am
Thanks Roksana!
Nearly 3 weeks later & I am still buzzing about it LOL!

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: Roksana
Date Posted: 14 June 2008 at 5:49pm
and so you should...it was amazing!

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Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 08 September 2008 at 12:01am
Just bumping for AJmama... VBA2Cs is totally possible!

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 08 September 2008 at 4:25pm
i'm still in awe of your VBA2C success toni!!

i wish you'd had erika before i had charli so i could've used you as inspiration

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Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 08 September 2008 at 10:08pm
Aww thanks!
My girl is getting so big now & some days it still seems like a dream that I did the VBA2Cs.... It was just so easy that I understand now how women say they can forget the pain of childbirth. I want more LOL!

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: pomikiwi
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 3:30pm
Thanks for sharing your story, gives me such great hope for my VBAC.


Posted By: bext1
Date Posted: 21 October 2008 at 9:23pm
toni, just read you want more :P
haha what would mr hubby say about that hehe

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Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 31 October 2008 at 8:18pm
LMAO Hubby says "No FREAKING way!!!" PMSL oh dear....

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 31 October 2008 at 8:19pm
p.s. can't wait to see ya on sunday

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 31 October 2008 at 8:38pm
No worries Toni, with your track record he'd have to maintain a high level of abstinence and I don't know any men keen to do that!!

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Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 02 November 2008 at 1:10am
LOL Busymum! Actually Hubby is one of "those" guys who is quite happy to just not have some good loving (strange man!!!!) & not only that everytime I mention another baby he goes, "oh crap I REALLY better book in for that snip then!!!"
He REALLY doesn't want anymore kids, he probably wants no more kids alot more than I want another one so I'm sure he will probably get around to having that snippity snip op done soon.... Will be sad for me but the problem is if I did have another baby I dunno if that would be enough, I would probably want another one & then another & then another... PMSL. If I was rich & could just be a SAHM I would probably have a whole brood of kids Sadly that is not the case with me having to work (sux to be self employed sometimes! LOL) so probably best we stop at three kids

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: Kels
Date Posted: 02 November 2008 at 3:32am

Wow just read your awesome story. AMAZING is all i can say and well done to you too. I had a VBAC but your a legend for doing it after 2CS. that must have been scary, I know how much I was crapping myself during labour after my csect.

 



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Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 03 November 2008 at 11:51am
In all honesty I wasn't scared at all. I was far more freaked out in the hospital with the first two kids to be honest with all the nurses & monitors & hearing other people I didn't know around everywhere. At home I was able to relax a lot more & concentrate on what was happening to ME!
And I remember thinking after how EASY it was. 4.5 hours of abit of pain & then done LOL.
If I was going to have any more kids (which hubby has vetoed LOL) then I would do it exactly the same again.

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: 4thtymlucky
Date Posted: 15 November 2008 at 4:36pm
Wow absolutely fantastic..I've just read your amazing story and you're really an inspiration! I had 2 C's and did not enjoy the experience at all. Hubby and I purposefully left the age gap so that the scar could heal better etc. So, we've left the age gap even longer this time and I'm really really happy to say that I'm due in June 09..and now having read your story makes it even more possible..I'm hoping to get a fantastic midwife like yours but will need some help in that area as my doctor has already told me that very few midwives support HB's let alone HBA2Cs...i would love to get some first hand advice (when you're free)...but CONGRATS again and ...yeah wow...I'm really really excited about the opportunity...


Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 25 November 2008 at 7:34pm
Hi! I gave you a call but you weren't home.... So have replied to your PM

Hope I can help....

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: weegee
Date Posted: 25 November 2008 at 10:47pm
This is such an inspiring thread that keeps needing to be bumped - maybe it should be stickied...?

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Mum to JJ, 4 July 2008 & Addie, 28 July 2010


Posted By: 4thtymlucky
Date Posted: 26 November 2008 at 5:55pm
Thanks Toni I've replied to your PM too


Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 28 November 2008 at 9:36am
No worries! Here to help

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 28 November 2008 at 10:11am
I've just come across this, Toni... well done! Awesome birth story!

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Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys


Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 28 November 2008 at 5:04pm
LOL Becca

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 20 October 2009 at 10:03am
Bumpy.... Since I am going for baby #4 LOL

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: neivaD
Date Posted: 20 October 2009 at 5:04pm
LOL your story still makes me smile everytime I read it lol

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Natalie Mama to Miss Pie (04/04) Dude (03/07) Button (06/08) and Thumper (Due Autumn2010)


Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 21 October 2009 at 8:51am
Hehehe yeah makes me smile too! Hoping to repeat the experience this time around too since it is the last bubba ever

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: neivaD
Date Posted: 21 October 2009 at 9:37am
I would quite like that this time too instead of the drama lol

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Natalie Mama to Miss Pie (04/04) Dude (03/07) Button (06/08) and Thumper (Due Autumn2010)


Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 21 October 2009 at 10:34am
Well you will get that with Ruth


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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: 4thtymlucky
Date Posted: 23 October 2009 at 6:27am
Hi ladies:)..I can't wait...due 15/12 at home in the birthing pool (baby willing)...lol..Congrats to you both!


Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 23 October 2009 at 10:42am
Not long for you now then!!! Best of luck!!

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: mummy3
Date Posted: 08 November 2009 at 7:42am
Wow thanks for that story! I have just found this website, had the OHbaby book out from the library, and am mum of two with baby 3 on her way. I have had 2Cs and am pushing for a VBAC for this one. I am starting Hypnobirthing classes to try and help me believe that I can do this...your story has really given me hope. I'm in Chch where were you? And do you know any midwives who'd support it in Chch?


Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 08 November 2009 at 3:11pm
Hi Mummy3.
I was in south Auckland for mine & I am afraid I wouldn't know anyone down there who I could point you to.
Both NeivaD & myself are living proof that it can be done, its a matter of pushing for what you want & finding the right people to help.

Best of luck!!!

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: 4thtymlucky
Date Posted: 19 November 2009 at 5:01pm
Hi everyone getting excited about the home waterbirth...I'm 36 weeks now and counting down...the birth team have been given their duties...lol...except hubby who I will have to tell on a daily basis otherwise he will forget and keep asking me...he's more worried about having a tidy house for the birth team!...lol...best of luck to you mummy3...I hope you find someone, Toni's absolutely right. I got rejected 20 times before I found this site and she gave me Ruth's number...just as well I'm in South Auckland too...I'm sure you'll find someone..don't give up


Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 24 November 2009 at 5:53pm
Awwww not long now!!!!
Best of luck for the birth

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: 4thtymlucky
Date Posted: 28 November 2009 at 11:23am
Counting down...can' t wait...I'm getting so excited and nervous all at the same time..I was induced with my girls so I don't know what to expect for a natural labour...*biting nails*...37 weeks and 4 days now...we set the birth pool up the other night just to make sure Hubby and the girls were all good to go...had to dismantle it though but it's sitting in the lounge ready to be used...I can't wait...I'm feeling sooooo positive about this it's like I'm 5 again and waiting till Xmas to open my presents...lol.,literally ..lol...thanks Toni:)...you're my inspiration:)


Posted By: neivaD
Date Posted: 28 November 2009 at 11:45am
You can so do it, just trust, let go of your fear and go with it Natural labour is so different to an induced labour, ok its gonna hurt, but it builds it isnt just there all of a sudden (usually)
You will be great

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Natalie Mama to Miss Pie (04/04) Dude (03/07) Button (06/08) and Thumper (Due Autumn2010)


Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 28 November 2009 at 9:34pm
Ditto what NeivaD said, just relax & go with it, you will be great

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: 4thtymlucky
Date Posted: 11 December 2009 at 8:27pm
Thanks heaps ladies ...39 weeks and 3 days now...not long to go ...having loose bowel movements over the past few weeks but now also having hard stools in between...is this normal?...baby is facing front so I've been using the rocker to get bubs to turn, also went for a 20 minute walk to the dairy today just to try and get things started a wee bit...this is exciting:)...thanks again...keep the advice coming, I love it:) Both of you are so inspiring...Blessings:)





Posted By: Andriea
Date Posted: 11 December 2009 at 9:07pm
ooooowww Good luck hun - you can so do it - home waterbirths are amazing!!!   

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Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 15 December 2009 at 2:58pm
Originally posted by 4thtymlucky 4thtymlucky wrote:

Thanks heaps ladies ...39 weeks and 3 days now...not long to go ...having loose bowel movements over the past few weeks but now also having hard stools in between...is this normal?...baby is facing front so I've been using the rocker to get bubs to turn, also went for a 20 minute walk to the dairy today just to try and get things started a wee bit...this is exciting:)...thanks again...keep the advice coming, I love it:) Both of you are so inspiring...Blessings:)


I found just relaxing is what made me go into labour.... Although the accupuncture session & stretch & sweep with Ruth probably really helped too
Best of luck!!!

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: 4thtymlucky
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 2:28pm
Oh thanks heaps..I'm 40 weeks and 1 day today...had my appointment with Ruth and we did the acupuncture thing for 20 mins so here's hoping that bubs will make a move within the next 24 hours...she also left me some herbal meds to help out..lol..can't wait...


Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 17 December 2009 at 10:23am
well it might take longer than 24 hours, so don't panic if it doesn't. Ruth did the accupuncture session for me on the thursday & it was monday morning that I went into labour

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: 4thtymlucky
Date Posted: 17 December 2009 at 1:00pm
Thanks Toni:) That's a relief..I went to do some errands at the mall earlier and could feel tiny wee twinges down there...so here's hoping..the herbal meds Ruth left for me is gross! but I've had 2 doses so far and it's a good feeling that I'm doing something proactive to give bubs a hand with making their grand entrance...last night I had such a huge appetite I couldn't stop eating! then I had gas all night and went for a good loose bowel movement this morning so I'm feeling quite hopeful that the next few days might see some progress...if not I'll be seeing Ruth again next wednesday and she's mentioned a scan and visit with the specialist at 10 days overdue...aarrgghh..not keen for either but it's just for a check to make sure bubs bag is stll full of the good stuff and not drying up...i'm soooo excited..i can't wait:):)


Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 17 December 2009 at 2:40pm
LOL what stuff did she give you? I highly recommend the "Pre-Birth" spray. I bought that one myself
LOL did I mention the monday that I went into labour I was supposed to see Ruth that day? was really funny coz instead of having the usual appointment I woke her up early to say "hey cancel our appointment but come for the birth" LOL

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: 4thtymlucky
Date Posted: 18 December 2009 at 8:37am
lol..hey that's pretty hardcase alright...fingers x'd that will happen to me on wednesday if not before then..lol..yeah the stuff she gave me is birth prep stuff and it's foul but as it's only 2mls twice a day until Sunday, it's manageable...then it's 3 times a day until wednesday then it's 5mls 3 times a day until birth! I'm really hoping it will work its magic well before then lol...i had really bad heartburn last night...took over 2 hours to subside and I finally went to sleep after 1am...but waking up this morning, it still hasn't quite gone away and im burping alot...my tummy is rock solid and I'm starting to feel rather uncomfortable sitting up...i can't believe it's Xmas next week, time sure does fly...


Posted By: neivaD
Date Posted: 18 December 2009 at 8:55am
LOL please dont have your baby on monday I have an appointment with Ruth and I need to see her before next year

It wont be long hang in there

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Natalie Mama to Miss Pie (04/04) Dude (03/07) Button (06/08) and Thumper (Due Autumn2010)


Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 18 December 2009 at 12:12pm
LOL!!!!

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: 4thtymlucky
Date Posted: 19 December 2009 at 8:52am
LOL..NeivaD that is sooo funny:)...every evening i go to bed giving thanks to God that bubs and I have made it through another day and for bubs to come when ready because we are all so excited and can't wait to meet him or her...so far no pains or anything at all...just a lot of heartburn over the past 2 nights...bubs still moves ALOT for which I am very grateful cos it's like his/her way of telling me they're okay and doing just fine..I just know I've got a clever bunny in there...lol..we're now into week 40 day 4 and I'm starting to get bored...I've almost finished my TO DO list and I'm doing lots of surfing (websites)...talking to my boss yesterday I told her that I'd put my paperwork off until next month after bubs comes as it stresses me just thinking about it and i'm not really in the right headspace to do it properly now anyway...I offered to take my girls to the fleamarkets early this morning but they'd rather go to the malls which I struggle to find a carpark for and hate all the walking around as there isn't much room to sit around and laze when I get tired...I have the latest issue of That's Life but can't be bothered doing the puzzles...I kinda just want to hold bubs and snuggle right now but hubby says, don't worry, don't force bubs to come out if they're not ready to...lol...quick question while I'm rambling...Toni- I noticed you mentioned a SnS...and I was thinking of asking Ruth for one on Wednesday if bubs hadn't arrived by then..but then when I mentioned it to hubby and explained to him what it was he said not to do it and to just wait...what's it like?


Posted By: 4thtymlucky
Date Posted: 19 December 2009 at 8:59am
BTW thanks for reading my latest update..lol..i just can't wait to put my story up on the Aotearoa Homebirth website too..lol...thanks ladies:)


Posted By: neivaD
Date Posted: 19 December 2009 at 9:08am
I personally would just wait it out without a s&s. I had one with my first child, it didnt work and went into labour on my own a week later. It increases the infection risk, and you can risk having your waters break, which isnt conductive if you and baby arent ready to go into labour yet. Its like a rough vaginal exam, not exactly painful but not really pleasant either. I wouldnt consider one till at least 42 weeks.

The last few weeks are hard, waiting is a pain and quite unsettling (at least thats how I felt) I had a huge mental breakdown a few days before I had D, and it seems to be my trend to release all tensions before labour, because within days baby is here lol I joke that i had my transition with D 2 days before he was born.

Baby is possibly waiting till xmas is over and done with

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Natalie Mama to Miss Pie (04/04) Dude (03/07) Button (06/08) and Thumper (Due Autumn2010)


Posted By: neivaD
Date Posted: 19 December 2009 at 9:09am
Oh and its Tuesday that I have my appt with Ruth, so please not Tuesday lol dont know why I thought Monday, but it was actually Tuesday just gone lol I so would like my brain back!

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Natalie Mama to Miss Pie (04/04) Dude (03/07) Button (06/08) and Thumper (Due Autumn2010)


Posted By: 4thtymlucky
Date Posted: 19 December 2009 at 12:00pm
hahahahaha thanks Neiva:)...I'm patient enough to wait till 42 weeks but Ruth mentioned having to see the specialist before then and he might book me in for a c-section or to be induced...I really don't want medical intervention from the hospital as that was why I had 2 c-sections with my girls...my tummy is feeling nice, tight and hard and bubs hiccups seem to be lower down...but at the same time everything still feels kinda high up unless I'm imagining it to be so...no pains or other signs yet...are the tightenings a sign of impending labour?...i've been having them for a few days now..more often than not...


Posted By: neivaD
Date Posted: 19 December 2009 at 12:51pm
I had prodormal stuff with D for a week or two before having him.
You dont have to see the specialist, nor follow any advice that is given, its just a recommendation.

When I had my consult with him, I said I was happy to go to 43 weeks before considering any kind of anything. I had a consult booked for 41 weeks, but when I saw him at 36 weeks I had said I would not consider anything before 43 weeks from my LMP, so it would have been to discuss what would happen post 43 weeks (in my case I probably would have booked a c-section by the end of the 43 weeks, and in that time tried s&s, tinctures, accupuncture etc)

Labour is so unpredictable, and can change pretty quickly in a very short amount of time.

Do you have any emotional stuff that could be holding you back? Are your dates spot on? How long were your other pregnancies? How about your families gestations?
There are so many things that can have an influence on gestation, and it is just a average date, and the risks do increase slightly from 42 completed weeks onwards but you are a while off that.
Have more to say but have some sewing to do lol
*hugs* The waiting and unknown is hard.

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Natalie Mama to Miss Pie (04/04) Dude (03/07) Button (06/08) and Thumper (Due Autumn2010)


Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 19 December 2009 at 2:12pm
To be perfectly honest, the SnS wasn't very pleasant. I remember Ruth said my cervix was quite soft & stretchy (I give thanks to all the EPO I was putting up there LOL!) but was still really long. She wasn't very hopeful about anything happening so going into labour on Monday came as a surprise to me.

I preferred the SnS to a c-section or induction though. I had just seen the OB who told me he didn't want me going overdue so I was anxious to avoid him doing anything I didn't want.

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: 4thtymlucky
Date Posted: 20 December 2009 at 9:43am
hmmm...thanks heaps ladies..it helps to get good advice that's for sure..like you Neiva I don't mind going past 42 weeks as well (bubs being well and all)..maybe I should do some sewing to pass the time? both my girls were late (8 and 10 days over) when I was induced, not that long really when I think about it..i guess I'm just a bit too excited and need to relax properly and forget about dates etc...had the worst heartburn last night which was painful at the same time as being uncomfortable...and I'm on 3 x daily dose of the herbal meds now too...i've decided to put off the sns to 42 weeks, hopefully with the Xmas break in between I won't be able to see the specialist before then...having bubs in the interim would be better..:):)


Posted By: 4thtymlucky
Date Posted: 22 December 2009 at 10:03am
41 weeks today:) and no signs yet:)


Posted By: neivaD
Date Posted: 22 December 2009 at 10:07am
You could take your kids and go for a picnic or something well done making it to 41 weeks, not much longer to go

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Natalie Mama to Miss Pie (04/04) Dude (03/07) Button (06/08) and Thumper (Due Autumn2010)


Posted By: 4thtymlucky
Date Posted: 23 December 2009 at 9:18am
Thanks Neiva..bubs is still very active in there..so I guess things are okay on the inside...great idea with the picnic..might have an outdoors one..like outside our back door..lol...Ruth is coming to see me today so might ask her to do a cervix check if I'm ripe..or not..I think I need to really relax..my sister is collecting my girls today for last minute shopping...maybe then I can relax, have a bubble bath and a nap:)..lol..


Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 23 December 2009 at 10:34am
Awww sounds relaxing & fun!

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: 4thtymlucky
Date Posted: 23 December 2009 at 2:31pm
Yay...my cervix is ripe..1cm dilated and station -1...I'm really pleased with the progress cos when I was induced with the girls my cervix was still high and closed and after having the gel 2x I'd only gotten to 2cm dilated...Ruth says bubs head is well engaged and ready..just waiting on the contractions to kickstart everything into action now...we did another acupuncture session and I'm still taking the tincture...Ruth reckons a few days away and that we won't make it to 42 weeks..that's really reassuring and I'm glad my body is doing what it's meant to be doing:)...yay I'm so happy and relieved:)


Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 27 December 2009 at 12:31am
Aw good luck!!


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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: 4thtymlucky
Date Posted: 30 December 2009 at 12:36pm
had my bubs on Xmas morning..a wee boy!!...birth story to come, thanks for all your well wishes and labour dust..what an AMAZING experience...VBA2C home/waterbirth....wow...:)


Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 02 January 2010 at 8:36am
CONGRATS!!!!! I can't wait to hear how it went!!! And I'm so pleased for you!!!

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 02 January 2010 at 7:39pm
Ladies, when you have some time I would love some help.

Over time I am realising if I really want the chance to birth in the water then I am going to have a home birth, but DH is very anti the idea.

He is worried about things going wrong and I just dont know how to explain things to him so he understands where I am coming from and a pointer to some reference material would be great!

TIA

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Posted By: HippyMama
Date Posted: 02 January 2010 at 9:21pm
*lurker in*

melnel - it's not related specifically to VBAC or HBAC just home birth in general, but here is a link to a really great article from the blog of an Australian homebirth midwife:

"http://www.homebirth.net.au/2008/04/this-brilliant-article-was-written-by.html" - Secrets Of A Homebirth Dad

I'd also suggest surfing some of the catalogued articles, lots of great information there.

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Mama to two earth walkers & two angels.

Remember, you are not managing an inconvenience; You are raising a human being. ~ Kittie Franz

Next Slingbabies! Meet - Friday 4th May !!


Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 03 January 2010 at 12:17pm
Thanks hippymama but that link isnt working for me

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Posted By: T_Rex
Date Posted: 03 January 2010 at 2:46pm
Mel, if it's useful to you I can share my attempted homebirth story at some stage if you like? We ended up transferring, but I'm so glad we tried at home first. And the transfer wasn't as bad as I'd feared either.

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http://lilypie.com"> http://lilypie.com">


Posted By: HippyMama
Date Posted: 03 January 2010 at 4:39pm
Hmmm... not sure why the link did that, very odd!

But here it is again, you'll have to copy and paste into your browser window though melnel :)

http://www.homebirth.net.au/2008/04/this-brilliant-article-was-written-by.html

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Mama to two earth walkers & two angels.

Remember, you are not managing an inconvenience; You are raising a human being. ~ Kittie Franz

Next Slingbabies! Meet - Friday 4th May !!


Posted By: weegee
Date Posted: 03 January 2010 at 4:48pm
CONGRATS to 4thtymlucky and Becs, looking forward to seeing both your birth stories!

Mel, I'll PM you later, I've got lots of resources you might be interested in, seems we've been going through a similar research process

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Mum to JJ, 4 July 2008 & Addie, 28 July 2010


Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 04 January 2010 at 5:39pm
Originally posted by melnel melnel wrote:

Ladies, when you have some time I would love some help.

Over time I am realising if I really want the chance to birth in the water then I am going to have a home birth, but DH is very anti the idea.

He is worried about things going wrong and I just dont know how to explain things to him so he understands where I am coming from and a pointer to some reference material would be great!

TIA


Hey Mel,
for reference there is a great book called Silent Knife which has a lot of statistics & references to actual studies. Google is also pretty good too and well of course there are those of us here who have done the home waterbirth thing ourselves

My Hubby was very anti the idea as well but I just made it VERY clear to him how important it was for me. My mum was also quite anti the idea but she actually spoke to my midwife about it before the big event and was alot happier afterwards to support my decision.

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 22 December 2010 at 1:20pm
Bumping for a friend

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate


Posted By: 4thtymlucky
Date Posted: 23 December 2010 at 7:59am
I did the same as Toni and made it clear to hubby that a Homebirth was the best choice for me. Mum was anxious too and cried throughout the labour but she was very happy once bubs came and I recovered well from the birth. We're expecting another bubs on Sunday the day after our son's first birthday hehehe (lol, due date Boxing Day) and we we are preparing for another HB. I can't wait I'm so excited I've told hubby to set up the birth pool first thing Monday as we need the space for this weekend's birthday and Xmas celebrations. All the best everyone


Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 29 January 2011 at 10:19am
It is great being able to have the next baby naturally as well.
2 c-sections & then 2 normal births for me.

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Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)

Successful HWB VBA2Cs!
Soon to be surrogate



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