Your baby can read
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Topic: Your baby can read
Posted By: MrsMojo
Subject: Your baby can read
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 7:23pm
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Anyone else watching this on Campbell Live? What do you think? -------------  
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 7:26pm
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I think I'm having enough trouble teaching Miss Five to read! -------------  Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: katie1
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 7:35pm
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Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 7:41pm
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Don't get me started. Have just had a wee rant on the July 08 thread. Basically, it's far more important at that early age to be working on interaction and oral language skills. Oral language skills are shown to be highly correlated with academic and social success. Written language skills develop later and that's OK, there's good reason for it.
ETA: I think Fiona's comments are right - it's great to expose kids to written language and go with them on it, but I'm not a big fan of these "we will teach your child to ....." programs. ------------- Mum to two wee boys |
Posted By: FionaS
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 7:41pm
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I haven't watched it but at this stage I let Miss Elle take the lead with what she wants to learn and do.
I don't feel this is the right age for full-on lessons of any sort as creative play and freedom to explore are vital. If she wants to focus on one book for a while, we go with that but don't sit down to teach her as such. We do point out /emphaise words etc but you kinda have to or you go mad reading the same books over and over (and over and over!). In saying that, if she seemed to want to learn to read, I wouldn't block it. At the moment her thing is learning all the animals (seriously ALL animals...even newt and bison!) and we enable that by talking about them / watching DVDs about them etc. If she was as crazy about learning to read as she is about animals I guess we'd embrace that. Elle loves to learn so I imagine she will be very very keen to learn to read...all in good time! ------------- Mummy to Gabrielle and Ashley |
Posted By: MrsMojo
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 7:54pm
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I'm with you Flissty. I think that there's a reason kids do things in certain order and I watched a show a couple of years ago which actually said why certain stages were important. I was also thinking when watching it that I don't know anyone who was pushed to read early and I also don't know any illiterate people but the guy was alluding that those that don't do the program will be illiterate and he was anti-wiggles, that wouldn't go down well in my house. I ended up switching over because his monotonous tone of voice was annoying me.
p.s. I was surprised to hear that most kids (according to the article) start learning to read after 5 my niece and nephews were all reading before they went to school, I assumed that was the norm. -------------
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Posted By: MrsMojo
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 7:56pm
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Will just add that I feel robbed that there was that stupid piece on and no mention of OB, didn't read that it'd been postponed until partway through. -------------
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Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 8:03pm
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In some countries they don't teach reading till age 7 because kids often need that time neurologically to learn to read.
Am with you on the OB thing - felt quite ripped off as I didn't see Emma's post! ------------- Mum to two wee boys |
Posted By: MrsMojo
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 8:08pm
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I was interested to read recently that many children aren't considered ready for school until at least 6 (hence the govt don't force 5 yos to attend) but the majority of parents enrol kids at 5 because a) it's the norm and b) it's the cheapest form of childcare available. -------------
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 8:10pm
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I didn't get the email saying it had been postponed till I sat down to watch it and looked at my comp.
Maya started learning to read at 3 at preschool but the preschools are restricted on how much they can teach them coz the schools don't like them knowing too much when they start. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: FionaS
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 8:13pm
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I could read and write very well when I started school. I remember begging my mum to make homework for me to do so I could sit with the next door neighbour while she did hers...it certainly hasn't done me any harm, either academically or socially. ------------- Mummy to Gabrielle and Ashley |
Posted By: popcorn
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 8:16pm
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i think thats because different schools use different reading programmes so kids would have to be retaught in jolly phonics, or letterlinks or whatever they are using ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 8:45pm
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I didn't see the article but I taught Hannah to read starting when she was about 3 or just older. By that time she had already learned all her numbers, counting to 10, colours, shapes and letters so I was a little stuck for what next LOL! That's not to say that she didn't play, she just loves to learn. So we ran with what she wanted to do.
Briona's starting to get interested in a few sight words. I think ordinarily she wouldn't have, but she likes to copy Hannah. Hey, why not?! ------------- |
Posted By: MrsMojo
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 8:58pm
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Teresa, the article suggests we start teaching them to read from 3mo and that watching shows designed for kids (such as wiggles) will turn their brain to mush. He also claims that 75% of brain development occurs before age 2 so leaving reading until after then results in illiteracy (in a nutshell).
I think fostering an enjoyment of books in babies is important and teaching kids to read as toddlers/preschoolers is great but I wouldn't force it, once Michaela's ready and interested she'll learn. -------------
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 9:02pm
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Yep, Maya is bugging me for homework lol, she writes the most amazing, complex stories and her spelling is actually really good, she spells everything phonetically. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 9:04pm
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Well I disagree with much tv/video watching as a general rule, but there's a lot more to life than just reading. Surely in the first two years we need to be introducing them to all manner of things - books, yes, but also paint and colour and plants and things like that. I dunno.... did it come across as too narrow-minded? ------------- |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 9:08pm
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Maya has a great Reader Rabbit DVD that is interactive, you play word/letter games on it. I'm going to try and find her some new ones coz they are really good. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: MrsMojo
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 9:08pm
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That's a talent I missed out on. I'm no good at fictional writing. My mum is a writer and both my sisters and my niece are good at it, even my DH is a fab writer. I was in the above average class for english at school (all those years ago) and I'm really good at writing professional letters but crap at making up stories and writing poetry etc. I'm great at maths though. -------------
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Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 9:39pm
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Your child can read ......
My mum will be proud cos , yes ! i can ! |
Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 10:17pm
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Everything in moderation I reckon! You've got to let kids be kids and just explore the world like you said Busymum. ------------- Mum to two wee boys |
Posted By: AnnC
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 10:19pm
we have reader rabbit. Josh andBrooke loved it (got it for her and Josh when they were much younger) .. My parents also brought the 'Reading Master' set... that was for Josh and although he enjoyed the books themselves they didn't make him read any quicker. Brooke was my reader writer etc.... knowing her ABC at 22 months, counting to 10 not long after she thrived on knowledge like that..... so naturally Books were a favourite 'toy' I spent alot of time reading to her and now she loves books (you can tell a book lover by the fact that even though they have read the book can not give it away or part with it LOL we have soooo many books in her room just sitting there) anyhow She never started at 3 months though and now at age 10 her reading level is at 12 year old along with her comprehension and accuousy (sp??? can you tell she didn't take after me for that!)   - so learning to ready after 3 months is a disadvantage - I highly doubt it.------------- Ann 
Also Mum to Josh (15) and Brooke (10) |
Maya wrote:Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 10:30pm
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I like the child led learning appoach. (or baby led learning as they do as Spencers nursery). I think everyone, babies included, learn better when they enjoy what they are doing.
Spencer is less interested in books at the moment and more interested in trying to post stuff out the cat flap. ------------- 
 
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Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 10:31pm
Haha cute! Watch for the cellphone post when its raining though  That ones not so cute!------------- Jen, Charlotte 7 & Kate 3 
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Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 27 June 2008 at 5:52am
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As far as I'm concerned if Maddie wants to learn then I will let her lead me, I'm sorry but the idea of teaching a 3 month old, who can't even eat solids, to read strikes me as kinda silly! ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 27 June 2008 at 9:18am
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I only saw al ittle bit but agree with what the others have said - everything in moderation. I mean there is the thing in your mind that make syou think "wow, wouldn't it be neat if they learnt to do that early" but that's the same for everything, we';re constantly thinking about when they'll smile, then roll, then crawl, then stand etc etc etc.
I think overall it really depends on the kid. Paris loses interest quickly, but is having fun with her reading books i get her from the library with simple things like "they put all of the blocks away, they put all of the cars away.. etc" and that's about where she is at, only because she started to show an interest so i got the phonics simple books from the library and went from there and she's now moved up tot he 5 or more words in a sentence type thing. Ayja has taken her lead, and loves letters and can identify nearly all letters in the alphabet, knows their sounds, and can write them because she sits up with her sister. I've never really pushed her, she just likes to do what paris does. I made up a sheet of paper with capital letters of the abc on one side, and lower case on the other since paris has trouble remembering lower case formation.. so i thought she can use that to remind her. Ayja was the one that grabbed it and spent every waking moment for 2 days up at our breakfast bar practising drawing letters... she has a little more drive, and probably just thinks its a whole lot of fun, whereas Paris knows that school is coming and she'll learn this stuff there so she doesn't really mind either way. I don't mind what they do.. but i think that deliberately teaching and conditioning them these things too early definately robs them of all the other things they're meant to be learning and doing at those stages which are important. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja 
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Posted By: mandz
Date Posted: 27 June 2008 at 11:17am
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I think learning to read at 3 months is going too far, but I do think we should allow our kids to learn at their own pace. So reading to them right from the start, naming parts of their bodies and animals etc. Then they can learn these things as they grow older. Personally my mum taught both my sister and I how to read before we went to school. Never hurt either of us, didn't make us seem too different - well at least not that I can remember!
I plan to try to have Oliver know his alphabet and basic words by the time he gets to school, but if he is really not interested then I won't force him  ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
Zack Robert Henton - 29th December 2009 |
Posted By: popcorn
Date Posted: 27 June 2008 at 3:55pm
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we teach the phonemes and the name of each letter, the basics of how to write their name and the lower case. if you get up to adding the phonemes together to make a word thats a bonus, not all children are ready for more than that before school. some are eager and pick it up really quickly. there are so many things more important to learn that how to read before kids go to school, the basic foundations needs to be laid first in all areas. i think there is way too much emphasis on learning to read, ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 27 June 2008 at 4:59pm
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I've read to Caitlyn since she was a couple of days old, (back then i read her cosmo articles -what? its not like she understood them ....) but it doesnt make her any more interested in reading , and it didn't make her any better at reading in her class than anyone else (shes good at maths tho, and i never did that much maths stuff with her )
I think it depends on the kid, and how much interest they have in it |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 27 June 2008 at 8:27pm
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I was talking to Mum and Dad about this today an Dad pointed out the irony that the theory and the theorist both come from America - and doesn't America have a brilliant literacy record *rolls eyes*
We start reading to our kids early in our house too, I reckon that's a much better idea than trying to teach them to read to themselves!  ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 27 June 2008 at 8:37pm
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What's this, Emma? Getting Maya to read to the gremlins so you don't have to? ------------- |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 27 June 2008 at 8:42pm
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Preeeeetty much ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: MrsMojo
Date Posted: 27 June 2008 at 8:51pm
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That's such a cute pic Emma!
We're the same. We've read to Michaela since a very early age and she's read several book a day but we don't put pressure on her to learn to read. She likes counting so she probably takes after me in that respect and recently she's started singing all the time so obviously she's focussing on that atm. -------------
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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 27 June 2008 at 11:59pm
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I thought, while it was interesting, it was a load of bullocks. It's the same system used with older kids.
Basically, from what I could see him doing, the babies and toddlers would learn that when that 'shape' ie the word is shown, that it means x. He showed smiling, with a smiling child, and he was smiling. Well duh any kid after that being repeated to them every day for a few months/years is going to pick up on it. Doesn't mean that if the child saw it in another context other than flashcards that s/he would know what it meant. Better we teach our kids social skills, as they are the foundation of life, and no learning can take place in a bubble so kids need to know how to interact with materials, teachers, parents and each other. That to me is the most important thing. |