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What is she NOT allergic to??!!

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Topic: What is she NOT allergic to??!!
Posted By: peachy
Subject: What is she NOT allergic to??!!
Date Posted: 27 September 2008 at 8:48pm
I recently sent Lauren's hair away to be analysed for allergies as she has quite bad eczema.

Here is the list of what she is allergic to :

Food preservatives
MSG
Paint Stripper (how random, as if she is going anywhere near that)
Asparatame (sugar sweetner)
Soybean
All citrus fruit
Cocoa
Coffee
Grapes
Kiwifruit
Cows milk
Onions
Pork
Plums
Wheat

What on earth am I going to feed my child!!!


Aaaaarrrggghhhhhh

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Posted By: manz
Date Posted: 27 September 2008 at 9:09pm
OMG Peachy, that's terrible! Poor Lauren & poor you for having to try to find things to feed her! Strange apples aren't on the list, didn't she used to react to them? Is she ok with them now?

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Posted By: kabe
Date Posted: 27 September 2008 at 9:14pm
Peachy, I'd be inclined to take Lauren to a proper specialist, to confirm whether this is correct or not. I've heard mixed things about the accuracy of hair testing. You must be freaking out!

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Posted By: MonicaMouse
Date Posted: 27 September 2008 at 9:24pm
Wow!, I had never heard of the hair testing before reading about them in Oct Mums. I would also get a second opinion if it was me, especially with something as large and influential as food intake (if that makes sense)

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Posted By: peachy
Date Posted: 27 September 2008 at 9:50pm
This is only part of the list, its 6 pages long, but these were the "main allergies to avoid"!!! But the rest is general health which I am slightly surprised about and interested in some of the things they say eg; she is lacking in, Potassium and Iron deficient. She eats pretty much anything I give her, including loads of veges, meat, you name it, she will eat it if I offer!

They have recommended she takes Omega and fish oil every day which I have heard can reduce eczema flare ups, so am going to look into this.

At the end of the day, her allergies are not serious, just eczema causing so while I will follow vaguely the recommendations, I obviously will not cut everything out as that would just be almost impossible.

kabe I am thinking of taking it further and seeing a specialist.

manz, she is fine on apple now, funny ahy, yet when she was first given apple she used to instanty flare up!

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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 28 September 2008 at 8:15am
Wow, that IS a big list! Where do you even start?!

I've always been a bit sceptical of hair testing, and still am, but in the interests of getting to the bottom of the gremlins ongoing health problems I'm about to send their hair off to be tested so will be interesting to see what they come back with. According to 'conventional' testing Sienna has peanut anaphalaxis and that's all. They did have cows milk issues as babies tho and there's been some suggestion that might be exacerbating their ear problems/sucky immune systems so we'll see.

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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 28 September 2008 at 8:16am
PS. Mmmmm, paint stripper

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Posted By: sunnyhoney
Date Posted: 28 September 2008 at 8:38am
Oh man. how awful for you both.
I would follow up with a specialist too. They will hopefully give you access to a nutritionist as well as do more tests??

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Posted By: DJ
Date Posted: 28 September 2008 at 9:19am
Argh! So many fruits on the list! It would be a shame not to have her eat those.

You could try goats milk (since Soy is out too).

Anyssa is still gluten free and it isn't too hard - there are lots of rice and corn crakers and gluten free pasta. She has millet, cornmeal or quinoa porridge for breakfast. These are all available in the organic section of our local supermarket. A's excema flared badly with oats, so I'm not going to introduce any other gluten for a while now.

Lentils, chickpeas, polenta are all good for dinner.

I'm doing the best I can to be preservative free too, but they sneak that cr*p into everything - even frozen chicken pieces!

Sigh, I do all this and A still has excema....

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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 28 September 2008 at 10:43am
Ah that is so hard, I would also suggest seeing an actual paedatric allergy specialist though. And I know you aren't keen on cutting out all those foods but continued exposure to foods they are allergic to can cause the reactions to become worse. I would definitely cut out some of things that have come back like the cows milk and the soy and the preservatives. We are completely preservative, colour, flavouring and any other sort of additive free and its not that hard to do.
Spencer is also soy, milk, egg, nut and strawberry free. Oh and also onions and parsnips
You soon get use to what you can and can't buy for them and how to adjust recipes to suit.

With the iron deficiency thing, eating foods the gut can't cope with can cause malabsorption of iron, I think the gluten one is particulary bad for doing that. Just something to consider.

I really hope you find some more answers, and hopefully a shorter list of things to avoid

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Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 28 September 2008 at 10:58am
In the meantime, if the reactions are only excema forming why not cut those foods out for a couple of weeks and then slowly introduce one or two back in and see what reactions you get.  Maybe introduce the foods that would be a pain to avoid.  She might be ok.  But I second the others, get a second opinion as you dont want your life to be more difficult than it has to be.  and heres hoping she outgrows some of these.


Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 28 September 2008 at 11:10am
Have you thought of seeing a naturopath, who can help devise a menu of foods you can safely give her.
Check packets as soy, milk and citrus are in a lot of things as flavour enhancers.

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Posted By: NikkiB
Date Posted: 28 September 2008 at 11:28am
Peachy. Hope you get the answers you are after with a second opinion.

Interesting that grass/pollen isn't on the list.

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Posted By: peachy
Date Posted: 28 September 2008 at 11:56am
It does she suffers from hayfever though NikkiB, so I assuming that is the pollen/grass allergy!

I cannot believe what soy is in, it is in EVERYTHING! We just went to the supermarket to buy her some special food and soy is such a common thing, much more common than I ever thought!

I have also started her on Flaxseed Oil for children today, that was recommended in the report and came highly recommended from the Naturopath at our local Health World.

I have cut out all dairy products for two weeks now and her eczema is barely even there now.

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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 28 September 2008 at 12:08pm
Yep soy is a real pain. My allergy book says that most people with soy allergy can cope with soy leitchin(sp?) as it is a form that has been broken down quite a lot. Just something to try if you reintroduce it later on as it tends to be in a lot of foods as an emulsifier.

I find signature range and homebrand pretty good for not adding a load of crap to their products and the other good brand to look for is ogran and they can be found at pak n sav and new world or organic shops. I found for cruskits and rice cakes etc though that I had to buy organic to be able to get ones without soy.

Good luck and it does get easier.

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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 28 September 2008 at 12:12pm
well look on the bright side.... peanuts and eggs werent on the list...

apricots?
pears?
Melons?

and aspartame - thats good, one way to make sure she never wants to put that poison in her body...



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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 28 September 2008 at 1:59pm
Interesting that the nightshade family of foods isn't included.
That's potatoes, tomatoes and kumara.

It may mean she has to have a more simple diet with less processed foods, as that's where a lot of the problem foods are.

Plain oats made up with water or rice milk makes a yummie breakfast. Do you have an organic supermarket in Auckland? A trip to one to see how much is available that doesn't include wheat or soy might be a help.

Good luck

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Posted By: soph
Date Posted: 28 September 2008 at 3:15pm
I have heard about hair testing and have been advised that it is not recommend to be done for allergies testing because they can give you a poor or false results.
Skin pricks or RAST test is the best way for allergies from my experiences with medical biochemistry degree.

I agree with OPs that you should take child to allergy specialist or do this elimiation test yourself, by remove one food for three week then reintroduce to see what happening. Then you know which ones is the "true" allergy.
HTH


Posted By: peachy
Date Posted: 28 September 2008 at 4:00pm
soph, I have done exactly this with removing dairy products and her skin has improved immensely!

I am not taking the results as gospel, but most of them I am inclined to believe, not just for allergies, but for general healths sake!

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Posted By: kezplanet
Date Posted: 28 September 2008 at 4:23pm

My nephew was is a similar situation with his eczema flaring up with different foods, his dad is a herbalist and got a blood sample sent off to the usa for testing and came back with similar type of results ranging from not so allergic to very allergic, he is now 13 so takes some responsibility in what he eats but was gluten, egg, dairy, high acid foods, honey, wheat were all in the high catagory, he also had a reaction to apples.  I also found out by defult that Anastasia reacts to egg whites very badly but she can eat the yolks, she is also old enough to tell me that the whites tasted yuck with a very funny look on her face.  We also found it interesting that my nephew could eat Oak Baked Beans but not Watties as there was an extra additive.

Good that so far it has only reacted with her skin and hasn't been life threatening, hopefully she will grow out of most of them



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Posted By: peachy
Date Posted: 28 September 2008 at 4:54pm
Yea Bizzy, I guess it could be worse! I am not down on it, I am actually finding it really interesting what is actually in our food!

kezplanet, that is what this analysis is like.

fluery, I gave her oats this morning for breakfast with just water and she liked them so thats good!

Thats what I am aiming for a more simple diet. Tonight for dinner she had a plain chicken breast baked in the oven and a bowl of steamed silverbeet, brocolli and pumpkin!

I bought her some wheat and gluten free rye bread today, she liked it thankfully, I think it is !!!

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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 28 September 2008 at 9:51pm
Ewww, I agree! The gremlins were wheat free to about 7-8 mths and I used to give them rice bread and just the texture of it was enough to put me off!

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Posted By: DJ
Date Posted: 29 September 2008 at 3:00pm
Peachy, rye and oats contain gluten, so if you want to avoid all gluten they are out too...

Gluten is in oats, rye, wheat and barley.

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Posted By: peachy
Date Posted: 29 September 2008 at 3:20pm
Oh is it? I selected that type of bread for the fact that it was wheat free, she isn't allergice to gluten, but I will opt for gluten free when possible!

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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 29 September 2008 at 3:23pm
You can get rice bread instead, normally in gluten free or organic section of supermarket. Is gross but Spencer use to love it.

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Posted By: sweetpea
Date Posted: 21 October 2008 at 3:57pm
oh my gosh the poor wee thing is allergic to lots. Hopefully she will grow out of it as she gets older. go and see a specialist though and get the skin prick tewsts done to see how she reacts. Some things may only be minor reactions e.g. she just gets an increase of mucos produced.

She may also not be allergic but in tolerant they are 2 different things.


Posted By: peachy
Date Posted: 21 October 2008 at 4:56pm
Well we have had the all clear today!

Lauren had RAST tests last week and she is negative to everything except cats!!

That was the best news to receive today, especially since its her birthday!!

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Posted By: 2girlsandaboy
Date Posted: 21 October 2008 at 4:58pm
Happy Birthday to Lauren - what a great birthday present

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Posted By: sunnyhoney
Date Posted: 21 October 2008 at 6:02pm
Yay, good news!!

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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 21 October 2008 at 6:38pm
That's great news Peachy.

do you have a cat? might not be great news for it if you do...hehehe

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Posted By: 11111
Date Posted: 21 October 2008 at 10:32pm
Originally posted by peachy peachy wrote:

Well we have had the all clear today!

Lauren had RAST tests last week and she is negative to everything except cats!!

That was the best news to receive today, especially since its her birthday!!

Sorry to throw a spanner in the work's, but in my limited knowledge we have had RAST test for Mikey and his Ezhema and they all came back NEH however recently I found out from his doc(not the one who sent us for test) that is is ofeten a false report wit hunder 2's and jsut casue we got a neg does not mean he does not have intollrence   
I s understand how you feel we have been battling this with Mikey for so long. there is nothing worse then wating an itchy kid suffer.   We are waiting to see the specialst how ever it seem's here in the Naki we don't have one at the momnet.

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Posted By: peachy
Date Posted: 22 October 2008 at 8:19pm
ButterflyMum Lauren is having RAST tests again in 6 months time to check again.

I have total faith in the specialist we are seeing, he is one the of the best Allergy Peads around. He has given us some creams that are working wonderfully, wish I had of seen him earlier! I am no longer using 1% hydrocortizone either, just a cream that helps the skin retain moisture. I apply it minimum of 4 times a day.

I have reintroduced some of the foods I was excluding, eg milk and she has not flared at all.

cuppatea, yes we have a puddy cat, but he made me promise I would not get rid of her. He is a firm believer that having a cat in your home will help reduce the chance of eczema children getting asthma. Sounds odd to me, but means I get to keep my cat (much to DH's disappointment)!!

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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 22 October 2008 at 9:14pm
That's interesting about the cat, we have four so Spencer definitely shouldn't get asthma



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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 23 October 2008 at 8:19am
how does that work?



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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 23 October 2008 at 8:35am
Maybe its so they're used to the allergens from cats, my DH gets asthma from cats, but he loves them and living with them he gets used to it and no asthma.

Yay for Lauren must be a relief.

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Posted By: peachy
Date Posted: 23 October 2008 at 11:43am
Not too sure KA. He advised me to keep her as I lived with her when I was pregnant, so I guess its something to do with the fact that Lauren eas exposed while inside me. She is an outdoor cat though, she hardly ever sets foot inside cause Lauren chases her!

I was a little confused too, but I trust his word!

Its her second day of dairy (half half bottles of formula as she doesn't like the taste) and her skin is 100% eczema free.


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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 24 October 2008 at 9:18pm
I know the girls' allergist has this mantra "cats are good, dogs are bad" when it comes to allergies. I don't know the reasoning either but that's what he says.

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Posted By: sweetpea
Date Posted: 31 October 2008 at 3:51pm
now that really interesting about the cat thing as we have a family friends whos daughter is allergic to cats. Diagonesd after she spent sometime at my mum and dads who have a cat. She is going to go on the desesitised thing. Hopefully all her allergies will disappear in time the last time she had tests her reactions weren't as bad so heres hoping. Poor thing is allergic to eggs, tree nuts, cats, some pollens and used to get excema really bad.



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