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Anyone on their first IVF cycle? Printed From: OHbaby! Category: Support Forum Name: Coping with infertility Forum Description: Have you been trying to conceive unsuccessfully? Dealing with primary or secondary infertility? Get support, advice, and help coping here. URL: https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24992 Printed Date: 23 November 2024 at 7:50pm Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 12.05 - http://www.webwizforums.com Topic: Anyone on their first IVF cycle? Posted By: bubbles Subject: Anyone on their first IVF cycle? Date Posted: 04 March 2009 at 9:45pm HI I am in my first cycle of IVF with ICSI and not knowing anyone else who has had IVF, I wondered if I could connect here with others, share stories and support etc. I had 2 embryos implanted last week and now Im waiting for the blood test next week to find out if it worked! Im sure those of you who have been through this know that the waiting is a bit harrowing, and its hard to think about much else. Im healthy and have had no problem with any of the drugs (apart from a sore and tender stomach the whole time and sore breasts) Let me know how it is for you, that would be great. Replies: Posted By: ScaredyCat Date Posted: 05 March 2009 at 8:16am Hi bubbles, wishing you the best of luck for a sticky embie or two even!! Thinking of you in the dreaded two week wait, I think that was the hardest time for me, hang in there! Our first cyle finished mid Feb in a miscarry unfort, so I am now waiting for a frozen transfer in May, and playing the waiting game once again. Anyway, good luck I hope it all works out for you. ------------- TTC # 1 - 7.5 years 2 x IVF - 4 x Trf 3 x BFP's 3 x M/c Feb 09June 10Sept 11 2 Blasties on Ice Posted By: bubbles Date Posted: 05 March 2009 at 8:34am Thanks Scaredy Cat, I appreciate your kind words. It must have been horrible for you to miscarry. All the best. Posted By: Country girl Date Posted: 05 March 2009 at 8:37am Hi Bubbles, I am also waiting for my blood test next week!! This is the first cycle of IVF ICSI that we have and the wait is so horrible. I have no sign of pregnancy (other than heavy breasts which may be other side effect). Do you have any signs?? You were fortunate to have two embryos replaced - I was only allowed one so they have frozen the other suitable embryo's! Any tips on how you may have persuaded them to allow two to be transferred?? I'm also looking for support, and people to talk to so would love to keep in touch. Good luck Posted By: loubee Date Posted: 05 March 2009 at 11:56am Hi ladies. I'm also on my first IVF cycle. I started the buserelin a week ago, so am behind the rest of you. Only side effects I have had so far are heavy sore boobs and I think that is a side-effect of the pill. We are not doing ICSI, and are only having one embie replaced. We are paying privately for this cycle and since I am 30 and we have unexplained infertility we were strongly recommended to only have one embie put back. But it was our choice. For now we have decided to only put one back, but if the quality of the embies isn't great, we will take the specialists advice because sometimes they think 2 low quality ones is better odds than 1 low quality one. Posted By: bubbles Date Posted: 05 March 2009 at 12:24pm HI Country girl and Loubee, It would be great to stay in touch. ...And we all have sore boobs! All the man has to do is think nice thoughts into a sample jar! its not fair. I felt really good on Buserilin and Puregon, though that might have been the hopeful baby related excitment. The drugs after implantation are not so nice for me. To answer your question Country Girl, I had two embryos replaced because Im 41. They dont do that with younger women. I dont think I have any signs of pregnancy this early...should we? what are they? My sister who pops babies out like they grow on trees, says that an oncoming pregnancy feels just like an on comming period - and ive got those signs! Loubee, how come you have to pay for your first cycle at age 30? Posted By: loubee Date Posted: 05 March 2009 at 1:01pm We are paying for first cycle because we are impatient! We are booked in for public funded IVF in September but wanted to start sooner. We have been trying for almost 2 years. Had 6 cycles of clomid and 2 unsuccessful IUIs. We have unexplained infertility so our eligibility for public funding comes from trying for 12 months or more plus the unsuccessful IUIs, plus the fact we are both 30. When we realised that IVF was the last option left for us we didn't want to wait another 6 months to do it. Fortunately we have been able to pay for a cycle ourselves. Depending on the outcome of this cycle we may be reassessed to see if we are still eligible for public funding. Posted By: tulips Date Posted: 05 March 2009 at 9:09pm Hey everyone Today is the start of my first IVF cycle. Quite excited. Injections start about 23rd. Good luck Bubbles and Country girl. Hope you both get BFPs. Posted By: bubbles Date Posted: 05 March 2009 at 10:02pm Hi and thanks tulips, and all the best to you for your IVF cycle. By the way, whats BFP? Posted By: loubee Date Posted: 06 March 2009 at 7:26am BFP means big fat postive or big fat pregnancy. BFN is big fat negative. Took me a while to figure them out! Posted By: bubbles Date Posted: 06 March 2009 at 4:15pm the waiting is hard!! Im trying to prepare myself for either outcome, but telling myself i'll be able to have some wine and coffee if im not preg, is not much consolation! Is anyone else eating as if they're pregnant while IVF-ing? Im doing the whole deal: no soft cheeses, no left overs, meals fresh and hot...Im not sure its necessary so early, but Im trying to make sure I have nothing to blame myself for if it doesnt work out. Posted By: tulips Date Posted: 08 March 2009 at 10:23am bubbles - will you find out at the end of this week? You could be preg now and just don't know it. Posted By: bubbles Date Posted: 08 March 2009 at 4:06pm Hi tulips, I find out mid this coming week (its sunday today) trying to prepare for both scenarios...! Hows your cycle going? You feeling ok on the pill? Posted By: Cruzzy Date Posted: 09 March 2009 at 9:52am Hi everyone, Good luck for eyery step you are about to take , me & my husband have been married for 13yrs & we have not used Birth control for 12,we have unexplanied infertility as they put it. we have almost completed our first ivf cycle . I had my EC on sat after 7 days of coasting as my levels were too high , they got 7 eggs and fertilized 5 , if my blood test is ok on tues they will replant 1 that day. then the TWW Posted By: bubbles Date Posted: 09 March 2009 at 2:00pm Good luck for ET if you have it tmrw Cruzzy, I hope you feel ok and arent too worried or nervous. I thought I would be nervous, but I havnt been actually. Every so often it hits me and I think crikey, I could either be preg or the whole process has been an expensive and invasive waste of time. I'll find out any day now! Posted By: Country girl Date Posted: 09 March 2009 at 5:26pm Hi ladies, Thought I would 'touch base''. Life is so busy trying to forget about my 2ww which will be over tomorrow!!! Scary... Good luck for your EC Cruzzy - dont be shy to ask for extra drugs if you need... bubbles - hope you are well. How are you feeling about this week?? Posted By: tulips Date Posted: 09 March 2009 at 6:42pm Country girl, hope you get great news tomorrow. So, you haven't done a home preg test? Posted By: Cruzzy Date Posted: 09 March 2009 at 8:34pm Thanks everyone for the encouraging words i will keep you informed, Posted By: Country girl Date Posted: 09 March 2009 at 8:36pm tulips - I haven't done home preg test!! To be honest I am too scared.... Really excited to get the result, but on the other hand dont want too in case it is a BFN! Guess the decision is made by now tho.... Posted By: bubbles Date Posted: 09 March 2009 at 10:06pm All the best for your result Country Girl, I'll be thinking about you. I'll know my results this week too, and all I can think about (apart from the utrogestan pessaries not working - which I fear they havnt) is where to be when they call me. I think ill try to be outside somewhere wind swept and lovely. Good luck! Posted By: Country girl Date Posted: 10 March 2009 at 5:48pm Hi Ladies What a day!! My HCG levels are at 12 - and they need to be 50 for a pregnancy! So I either have an eptopic pregnancy, have very slow rising HCG or was pregnant and now have had a chemical pregnancy and the HCG is on the decline!! Have been told to continue with pessaries and have another blood test on Friday - not looking good tho. Thank goodness there are two 8 cells frozen...... best of luck tommorrow bubbles!!! Posted By: bubbles Date Posted: 10 March 2009 at 6:38pm Oh heck! Thats not an easy answer for you today is it CG? I really hope it works out well and I hope you dont feel too lousy. At least you do have those frozen ones to give you some peace of mind.    Posted By: tulips Date Posted: 10 March 2009 at 7:07pm Country girl - this IVF isn't easy. Bubbles - I'm crossing my fingers that you are pregnant with twins!!!!! Posted By: bubbles Date Posted: 10 March 2009 at 8:22pm Twins would be great!!!! One black one and one white one! Both artistic, musical, and sporty geniuses Posted By: lampoon Date Posted: 10 March 2009 at 8:25pm Hi I'm a brand new member and not sure if I'm putting this in the right place. My husband and I have just had our first appointment with fertility associates in hamilton. We have been told our only option is ICSI - bit gutting. Also, have to wait 10-12 months to start. Does anyone know how long we would have to wait if we went privately? I believe it costs about $11,000? Very emotional at this stage Posted By: bubbles Date Posted: 10 March 2009 at 8:36pm HI there lampoon, I had to go private because Im 41. When I told them I wanted to start I was able to start at my next period...we had been with them (FA Wellington) for three Clomiphene cycles though. We had IVF with the ICSI procedure and it has cost approx $11,500 more or less plus all the blood tests at $30 a go. Good luck to you! Let us know how you get on. Posted By: ScaredyCat Date Posted: 11 March 2009 at 8:13am My heart goes out to you Country Girl, I had exactly the same thing, 1st blood test had a HCG level of 38, 2nd jumped up to 228 and unfort 3rd dropped to just 2 for me. But don't give up hope, at the same time as me another IVFer had exactly the same and hers ended in pregnancy and she is due in October, she started low just like yours and it just steadily got higher and higher, so sometimes its just a slow rising HCG level. Wishing you the best of luck for your blood test Friday, hang in there!! ------------- TTC # 1 - 7.5 years 2 x IVF - 4 x Trf 3 x BFP's 3 x M/c Feb 09June 10Sept 11 2 Blasties on Ice Posted By: bubbles Date Posted: 11 March 2009 at 1:37pm My result was negative. Im not pregant. Im so upset. we had 13 eggs harvested, only allowed them to fertilise 4 because we didnt want to freeze or throw any we couldnt use. They made and implanted 2 good embryos, and now I have nothing except a large debt. Its amazing how much of a failure it can make you feel. Posted By: Country girl Date Posted: 11 March 2009 at 3:06pm Oh No Bubbles!!!! I so feel for you - and understand how you feel.... It has been 24 hours for me, and my heart still hurts.... I don't know what I can say to make you feel any better - other than I do know of alot of people who have persevered with this IVF rollercoaster and finally got pregnant!!! It is such a rollercoaster with so many steep hills and dips. I have just read a book called hearts desire that I got from the local library. The book is written by a lady who has been on the IVF rollercoaster just like you - the book really did help me deal with this 'crap'. Best wishes and keep in touch Posted By: ScaredyCat Date Posted: 11 March 2009 at 4:42pm I'm so sorry to hear your news bubbles, it is so heartbreaking to go through so much and to have it not work out and you most definitely are not a failure, it just wasn't meant to be this time. And like Country girl says there is nothing anybody can do or say that will make you feel better right now, unfort you just have to take it day by day and hope the pain lessens as time passes. Take care of yourself and DH, I hope you feel better soon ------------- TTC # 1 - 7.5 years 2 x IVF - 4 x Trf 3 x BFP's 3 x M/c Feb 09June 10Sept 11 2 Blasties on Ice Posted By: loubee Date Posted: 11 March 2009 at 4:43pm Oh bubbles that is not good at all! **hugs** I remember feeling absolutely gutted when our two IUIs didn't work. Just remember that there are lots of others who kept going with IVF and finally got their little miracle. CG - am crossing fingers for you I just got my down-regulation results today and I am responding well to the buserelin. Starting the puregon tonight. It feels good to be moving to the next step. Posted By: tulips Date Posted: 11 March 2009 at 6:16pm Bubbles IVF is definitely an emotional rollercoaster. You are not a failure. Please don't blame yourself. Hope you start to feel better soon. Posted By: bubbles Date Posted: 11 March 2009 at 6:28pm Thanks very much everyone, thats a lovely bunch of support and I hope you are miraculously preg Country Girl. Our prob is that Im 41 (waited too long, never felt or looked 'old') and that IVF cost us thousands. Im not sure I can do it again - running out of time and money. We'll see. Strange things and miracles do happen. Thanks again. xo Posted By: loubee Date Posted: 13 March 2009 at 7:49am Good luck for your blood test today Country Girl. Posted By: bubbles Date Posted: 13 March 2009 at 9:45am Yes let us know how you got on Country Girl. Im really really hoping you have good news. I feel a bit better now, have a lotto ticket for Saturday night, I hardly ever buy them but expensive baby making procedures are egging me on - pardon the pun. Posted By: Country girl Date Posted: 13 March 2009 at 10:14am The blood test is now tomorrow - im really not hanging on to any hope! Did feel pregnant when I was, but no signs anymore (and I am still on the utrogestan!) Saw the councellor yesterday and that was really beneficial for both DH and I. Only two months to wait for a hopefully positive TER!! Posted By: bubbles Date Posted: 14 March 2009 at 4:13pm How'd it go Country Girl? Posted By: tulips Date Posted: 14 March 2009 at 8:37pm Country girl - hope today went okay. Or even better than okay!!! Posted By: Country girl Date Posted: 14 March 2009 at 11:27pm Hi - thank you all for showing so much interest and support! I had my blood test this morning, and HCG came back a 2 - needs to be down to 1 so more tests next week. I wasn't at all surprised tho, as bleeding started yesterday. I am coping better now, and pleased that all the IVF drugs are finally leaving my body!! Looking foward to hopefully a successful TER in two + months. I will stay on here daily hoping to see some BFP's!!! Posted By: loubee Date Posted: 16 March 2009 at 7:28am Sorry to hear that Country Girl. Hope to hear about you getting a TER BFP in a few months! Posted By: ScaredyCat Date Posted: 16 March 2009 at 8:37am Countrygirl, so sorry to hear that, hope you feel better soon and good luck with your TER! ------------- TTC # 1 - 7.5 years 2 x IVF - 4 x Trf 3 x BFP's 3 x M/c Feb 09June 10Sept 11 2 Blasties on Ice Posted By: tulips Date Posted: 19 March 2009 at 5:58pm Loubee How is your IVF cycle going? It must just about be time for EPU? Posted By: loubee Date Posted: 20 March 2009 at 4:07pm Hi Tulips I just got my call from the clinic. Egg pickup on Sunday - eek! I had a scan this morning and had 15 or so follicles bigger than 15mm and of those 4 were bigger than 20mm. No wonder I have been feeling a bit uncomfortable! They were concerned I might need to coast for a day if my E2 levels were too high today but they are fine Taking the trigger tonight and then EPU Sunday morning - we had expected it to be on Mon or Tues but it's nice to do it on the weekend. Will keep you ladies updated on how many eggs they get. Exciting and scary all at the same time Posted By: Cruzzy Date Posted: 20 March 2009 at 5:48pm Loubee, Good luck for sunday . Posted By: Cruzzy Date Posted: 21 March 2009 at 3:30pm Had blood test tday, not good news BFN, me & DH are gutted. Posted By: tulips Date Posted: 22 March 2009 at 10:46am I am so so sorry Cruzzy. You and DH must be heartbroken. Take care. Posted By: ScaredyCat Date Posted: 22 March 2009 at 10:50am So sorry to hear your sad news Cruzzy, take care of yourselves over the next couple of days/weeks, and I hope you start feeling better soon. ------------- TTC # 1 - 7.5 years 2 x IVF - 4 x Trf 3 x BFP's 3 x M/c Feb 09June 10Sept 11 2 Blasties on Ice Posted By: bubbles Date Posted: 22 March 2009 at 10:52pm we need some good ivf news! good luck Loubee! Posted By: loubee Date Posted: 23 March 2009 at 6:48am Cruzzy, so sorry to hear your news. I hope you feel a bit better soon Posted By: loubee Date Posted: 23 March 2009 at 6:52am Forgot to say,egg collection went OK. They managed to get 14 eggs which is more than they expected (we were told 10-12). Hoping that they fertilise well and we get lots of embies! We have opted for blastocyst transfer so aiming for day 5 at the moment. Egg collection was pretty unpleasant, but they gave me extra drugs half-way through and it was over pretty quickly. Spent yesterday on the couch watching DVDs. Off to work today, but taking it pretty slowly as my ovaries feel a bit bruised. Pleased it's over and we can start hearing about how our embies are doing. Posted By: tulips Date Posted: 23 March 2009 at 7:07pm Loubee Bubbles is right, we need some good IVF news to restore our faith in modern medicine. You will be glad the EC is over. Good luck for the transfer! Posted By: bubbles Date Posted: 25 March 2009 at 10:52am I hope you are feeling better now Cruzzy, and Country Girl and anyone else who like me has had their first cycle flop. What are people doing after their IVF fails? - Straight back to use frozen ones if you've got em? - Waiting and trying the old fashioned way for a while? - Looking into adoption? It would be interesting to hear what you are doing and what you are prepared to do. We have a follow up appmnt at FA in april to discuss more IVF I suppose, but hubby and I havnt discussed it yet, I think we both need a break from it. Posted By: Country girl Date Posted: 25 March 2009 at 11:07am Hi Bubbles Every day is getting easier for us so thats a bonus! DH and I are having a TER next month, so I need to ring the clinic on Day 1 - fingers crossed the embryo defrosts o.k. I have decided that I am not waiting another 9 -12 months on the waiting list for a full cycle. We will find the money somewhere...... How are you doing?? Posted By: bubbles Date Posted: 25 March 2009 at 11:46am HI Country Girl, Yes the money is a big issue. We would have to start all over again and pay the $11000+ again. My heart says yes but my head says hang on a minute, all those drugs and your body turned into a medical experiment again...? So right now Im really not sure. I guess I just need a month to get my head around it. We are also moving house this weekend - so I have distractions. My hsband is enjoying us trying the 'old fashioned way' for a while, mainly because of the frequency of the 'tries' I think. Huge enormous amounts of best luck for your TER next month. Keep in touch. Posted By: Cruzzy Date Posted: 25 March 2009 at 5:47pm Hey everyone, Had the last blood test today .not sure why they make you hear it twice. (like the first time wasnt hard enough) Me and DH are not sure what we are going to do now, we have two frozen embies but i not sure what the process is for using them and also heard they carry more risk(not sure if thats true), Right now im not wanting to go throug the whole think agin (this may change in time) There is also the adoption route we talked about it and thought it might worth looking into as ther can be long waits , Oh who knows our heads are all over the place (sorry for the rambling) Posted By: tulips Date Posted: 25 March 2009 at 7:21pm Hi I wish the clinics had a magic wand so that all ladies got pregnant on their first IVF cycle. The whole process is such an emotional rollercoaster and it takes a lot of courage & money to try again. I just started my buserelin yesterday. So I'm excited at the chance of getting pregnant but realistic that it may not work. Good luck to those having a break to try the old-fashioned way. It's more romantic than blood tests & injections!!! Posted By: bubbles Date Posted: 25 March 2009 at 8:49pm HI Cruzy, adoption is an exciting option I reckon. Hi Tulips, good luck with Buserilin, I quite enjoyed the injection part of the process, it felt so hopeful. You might get a sore tummy and hard lumpiness around the site of the injections, but thats normal. I hope you dont wind up having three injections a day like I had though, I had to go out for dinner, to a concert, and on a road trip - injecting in public toilets each time (from my ice pack bag)...felt like a junky! All the best. Posted By: loubee Date Posted: 27 March 2009 at 11:10am I'm sorry ladies but I only have bad news too. We went into the clinic this morning expecting to havea blastocyst transferred (we had 5 good embryos on day 3), only to find that 3 had arrested and the two embryos left were still only 8 cells which means they were probably abnormal so there was no point in transferring them. So we didn't have an embryo transferred and none to be frozen, so all our hopes for this cycle have been shattered. It was a real shock to us since we had been going really well until then (14 eggs collected, 10 mature eggs, 8 fertilised, 5 embies on day 2 and 3). We are both devastated. Thank god we both have the day off today. We were told not to assume the same thing will happen if we try IVF again but I'm not sure what we will do next. Need some time to come to terms with it. Posted By: bubbles Date Posted: 27 March 2009 at 3:59pm Oh Loubee, thats a major bummer. How awful. I know theres not much we can say to make any difference to how you must be feeling right now. Take care of yourself and I hope you have a relaxing weekend doing nice things. Posted By: tulips Date Posted: 27 March 2009 at 5:55pm Loubee I'm so sorry that you didn't get to the transfer stage. What a disappointment after things were going so well. Hopefully you and DH will have the courage to try IVF again in the future. Posted By: karychick Date Posted: 08 April 2009 at 9:45pm Hi, I'm totally new to all this message board stuff and some of the acronyms are a wee bit puzzling, but i am both stoked and gutted to read about the trials and failures (No successes yet??) from very brave women. I'm currently experiencing some of the worst pains and symptoms ever due to being a week into buserelyn and the Pill wrecking havock to my body. None of the sore boobs though, just everything else possible, (about 3 weeks of intermitent bleeding and awful diahrrea, stomach pain... the list gets worse due to a rare disorder I have where my hands and/or feet and/or othr body parts swell to disgusting proportions)... Lots of fun! Has anyone else felt like this? Does it just get worse? Dont start Gonal F for another 2 weeks, not sure Ic an cope with all the wierdness that each day brings. Posted By: ScaredyCat Date Posted: 09 April 2009 at 8:20am Oh no karychick, that doesn't sound like a lot of fun!! Have you spoken to the Drs about all your side affects? I can remember getting some side affects from the Buserlin but nothing like what your having, and once I droped the level of burselin and went on to Gonal F things were much better, so I hope that is how it goes for you too. Anyway wishing you all the best for your cycle, hope it all goes well. ------------- TTC # 1 - 7.5 years 2 x IVF - 4 x Trf 3 x BFP's 3 x M/c Feb 09June 10Sept 11 2 Blasties on Ice Posted By: AmyRay Date Posted: 09 April 2009 at 8:59am Hi karychick! I have just finished a week and a half of the buserelin and three weeks of the pill. I found that i was really tired, had extremely sore boobs and constipation. I also suffered from headaches and dizzyness. It may pay to talk to your doctor about some of these side affects that you are getting if they are worrying you . I am off the pill now and I started the Gonal F on Monday and my buserelin intake has been halved and just like ScaredyCat said, things have been much better and i havent had as many side affects. Just a bit of swelling and bruising to the stomach. It does get easier karychick so hang in there and remember why you are putting yourself through this! These forums are also great - there is a lot of wonderful support on here. Best of luck for your cycle Posted By: karychick Date Posted: 09 April 2009 at 11:05am Hi Scaredycat, yeah unfortunately my specialist is out of town for 3 weeks so .... What are you up to now? AmyRay thanks for your encouragement and advice. It's amazing how much easier this wild ride can feel when you knw someone else is going through it too! You must be a few weeks ahead of me then, although your cycle sounds different timing to mine. Are they all different? Glad you're feeling better, maybe through the worst of the side effects? Who are you going through? I'm with fert +, public funded cycle, and so far they've been really good (not like a few ppl have said about the public system not being as good/thorough as the private ones...) I guess it's just one day at a time. All the best for your next few weeks. Keep my posted! Posted By: AmyRay Date Posted: 09 April 2009 at 11:43am Im with Fertility Associates in Wellington and im having IVF with PGD done. This is because i have a chromosome imbalance. After they have done egg collection, they send some of the cells over to Melbourne to get tested and then they are sent back 36 hours later and the one with the correct chromosomes will be implanted and the rest will be frozen. Well, hopefully that is how it works anyway! They may find that all of the cells are abnormal and then none will get implanted So its a little bit different to what you are going through? All cycles are slightly different depending on what your cause for infertility is. We are also using the public system this time as last time we had an IUI which we funded ourselves. I think the public system has been great. We did have to wait about 6 mths but that was to be expected. Thanks for your support and keep me posted with your progress! its great reading about other peoples journeys and knowing that you're not alone!! Posted By: bubbles Date Posted: 09 April 2009 at 10:24pm Good luck you newbies! Its amazing how different our bodies are, I felt great on Buserilin and the puregon...felt like crap after the drugs stopped (and even crappier when I found out it hadnt worked) Maybe its a good sign to have pain?!! Posted By: naki_chick Date Posted: 10 April 2009 at 1:48pm Hey everyone, I'm a first IVFer on Burselin daily and just finished taking the pill. Last year I had 4 unsucessful IUI attempts with Donor Sperm. I'm only 30 so can't understand why I'm not conceiving. It's really nice to hear all your stories. I don't know anyone who has been through IVF before. Posted By: tulips Date Posted: 12 April 2009 at 11:11am naki_chick Good luck for the IVF cycle! The clinic told me that the success rate is 40% if you are under 35. This is my first attempt at IVF and I'm having my scan on Thurs. Posted By: naki_chick Date Posted: 13 April 2009 at 12:45pm Hi Tulips, Is your scan to see how many follicles you have? I guess 40% are good odds. All the best for Thursday, I think my scan will be the week of the 20th. I have a blood test tomorrow to check for down regulation. Posted By: ItchyFeet Date Posted: 13 April 2009 at 1:10pm I'm joining this thread (finally going ahead with IVF now after trying alternatives). I'm not on the pill and go straight onto the buserelin in a week. My question is, how long were you on the buserelin before any symptoms showed up, tiredness etc? Posted By: tulips Date Posted: 13 April 2009 at 8:12pm Itchyfeet I also went straight onto Buserelin. Best advice is to drink plenty of water. I could feel a headache coming on if I didn't. Only other symptom was a slightly bloated stomach. I'm now on Gonal F as well and feel quite 'normal'. Posted By: ItchyFeet Date Posted: 13 April 2009 at 11:48pm Thanks Tulips, I'm really hoping any symptoms I get won't be obvious to people as it's really rare for me to be sick and I usually have plenty of energy. I don't mind having side effects, just hoping it's not too bad. I've already upped my water intake in preparation so hope that helps. Posted By: AmyRay Date Posted: 14 April 2009 at 2:46pm Thanks bubbles for your support! Hi to naki_chick, ItchyFeet and tulips. We all appear to be at close stages with our IVF cycles. Im a little bit ahead of ya's! I have been on the puregon for 8 days now (along with the buserelin). I had my first scan this morning. There were about 8 follicles all ranging from 10-13mm in size. They need to be between 15 and 21mm ideally. So im waiting for my instructions back but im guessing after talking to the doctor that they will continue me on the puregon and i will have to go for another scan in a couple of days. It was quite nerving having the scan today, i hope the follicles get bigger Apparently they should grow about 2mm per day?? Good luck with everyone elses cycles!! Good luck with your scan on thursday tulips!! Posted By: loubee Date Posted: 16 April 2009 at 10:02am Hi ladies. I'm back after a few weeks off the boards after our IVF let-down - no embryos to transfer. We had a follow up appt the following week with FA wgtn and it seems that the problem may have been that I have slight PCOS (which we were aware of but spec didn't think it was an issue). That means I have a tendency to produce more eggs of lower quality. I don't have it severely though as I ovulate by myself and don't have the other symptoms like excessive hair . So our problem might have been egg quality. Apparently I responded a little too well to the drugs last cycle so we got more follicles and more eggs than they would have liked - quantity over quality.   We are going to try again with a lower dose of puregongand see if we get less eggs We have to give my ovaries time to recover since they got quite a beating at the egg collection. We have another appt mid-May and will probably start next IVF cycle in June. In the meantime I'm going to try and lose 5kg - specialist said I was fine at the weight I am but I would personally feel more comfortable being in my healthy weight range and being a healthy weight and controlling insulin levels can help with the PCOS symptoms too. Off to have a catch up read on the boards. Hope you are all going well. Posted By: AmyRay Date Posted: 16 April 2009 at 10:55am Hi Loubee, i have just been reading your thread and i am so sorry that the IVF didnt work last time. But it sounds positive for the next time. At least they are aware of the PCOS so they can adapt your drugs to suit. I had my second scan this morning and my little follicles are growing at the pace of snails - at least they are growing!! Today they ranged from 11-16mm. So waiting for instructions again but im guessing i will be continuing with the puregon and will have another scan in a couple of days. Its so hard with work! I am trying to give my boss adequate notice for when i may be flying to auckland for egg collection but this cycle is turning out to be quite long!!!!! How was your scan today tulips? ------------- 26yrs old TTC 5yrs Endometriosis & Chromosomal Disorder Natural Jun 07 - BFP but MC at 11.5 wks IUI Jun 08 - BFP but MC at 11.5 wks First IVF/PGD Cycle Mar 09 - BFP but MC at 6 wks Posted By: tulips Date Posted: 16 April 2009 at 6:37pm Loubee - great to have you back. It can't be easy to put the first attempt behind you. I'm so pleased you have another IVF cycle to look forward to. All the best. AmyRay - I had my scan. 13 follicles altogether. Second scan on Monday. We better start cheering them on. Come on little follicles - grow, grow, grow!!! Posted By: karychick Date Posted: 16 April 2009 at 8:05pm Hi all, wow heaps going on/growing inside you ladies All the best over the next few days as you wait... that's such a hard part aye!! I'm still taking busereln but at least all my swelling side effects have subsided (apparently a reaction to the Pill...) So I feel normal again and not really any other side effects thankfully. I have my blood test tomorrow to see if I've down regulated successfully... Fingers and toes crossed... Posted By: tulips Date Posted: 19 April 2009 at 8:50am Hey Karychick How did the blood test go? Do you get to start Gonal F this week? You've had your fair share of side effects. Hopefully it's smooth sailing from now on. Posted By: naki_chick Date Posted: 19 April 2009 at 11:57am Hi Again, It's really interesting to see how everyone is going with their cycle. I have started the Gonal F and on Monday have a blood test. I guess after that will be the scan. Headaches have been a real issue for me. I wake up everymorning with one, and really can't be bothered going to work. At least I'm on a break now for the next few weeks. All the best to everyone! Posted By: tulips Date Posted: 19 April 2009 at 7:13pm Naki_chick Those headaches sound nasty. Have you told the nurses at the clinic? Posted By: naki_chick Date Posted: 20 April 2009 at 9:09am Hi Tulips I will be speaking with the clinic today and I'll let them know. I will increase my water intake aswell. Has anyone else suffered headaches from the drugs? Posted By: AmyRay Date Posted: 20 April 2009 at 11:46am hi all! well ive had blood tests everyday for the last five days. my arms are like pin cushions my estrogen levels are too high so FA have taken my off the puregon and now im only on the buserelin until my hormone levels go down a bit! so that means auckland for egg collection has been delayed a little bit. hopefully my blood results today will be a little better!!! I havent had a scan since thursday but im guessing thats because they are waiting for my hormone levels to drop?? naki_chick - i was getting headaches from the buserelin when i first started and i found that drinking a lot more water helped and i was getting them less. ------------- 26yrs old TTC 5yrs Endometriosis & Chromosomal Disorder Natural Jun 07 - BFP but MC at 11.5 wks IUI Jun 08 - BFP but MC at 11.5 wks First IVF/PGD Cycle Mar 09 - BFP but MC at 6 wks Posted By: Lollypop Date Posted: 20 April 2009 at 9:02pm Hi ladies, I'm so pleased to find this thread since I'm new to ivf. I can see that it's been a bit of a rollercoaster ride for you all Me and my man left the babymaking rather late unfortunately (I could kick myself now but there you go) so after 18 months of TTC we're here at ivf with me aged 40. I'm about to start the microdose flare protocol with FA Wellington next week so am really pleased to find that other people are going through it too. I think I might be a wimp - I guess the thought of it is more scary than the actual process - but are the injections as bad as they sound?? Good luck everyone Posted By: karychick Date Posted: 20 April 2009 at 9:30pm Hi all, thanks Tulip, my blood showed I have successfully down regulated So that's the first box ticked but so many more to go so I'm trying to stay realistic and not overly optimistic. You poor thing, AmyRay, I know what you mean about feeling like a pincushion!! Sometimes it's hard to find a fresh spot     Keep remembering it's going to all be worth it eventually. Welcome Lollypop, it's a funny thing how strong you can be when moments in life call for surprising strength to do things you'd never think you'd ever be able to do. The injections aren't so bad really. (Although I havent started the Gonal F yet), but once you get into the swing of it it really only takes a minute. Good luck. And AmyRay, good luck with your follicles and estrogen levels hitting the right levels to continue. Posted By: AmyRay Date Posted: 21 April 2009 at 10:41am Hi Karychick! The results from my blood test yesterday showed that my hormone levels have dropped since Sunday so this is a good sign. I had another blood test this morning so if they have dropped some more i will be off to Auckland tomorrow. Fingers crossed!!! YAY for down regulating. It feels some what of a sigh of relief when you know you have passed that first stage. Good luck with the puregon/gonal F Hi Lollypop! All the best with your cycle. Its not as daunting as first may sound. The injections become relatively easy after the first couple of days and the Gonal F is easier than the Buserelin so you should be fine. Theres heaps of great support and for some reason it makes the whole process easier being able to talk to other people who know exactly what you are going through. ------------- 26yrs old TTC 5yrs Endometriosis & Chromosomal Disorder Natural Jun 07 - BFP but MC at 11.5 wks IUI Jun 08 - BFP but MC at 11.5 wks First IVF/PGD Cycle Mar 09 - BFP but MC at 6 wks Posted By: Lollypop Date Posted: 21 April 2009 at 11:02am Thanks Karychick and AmyRay - yeah it's hard to explain about ivf to people who aren't involved, it's easier not to say anything really, plus I'm new to NZ from the UK so don't know that many people yet. At least I can talk to my Mum on skype ha ha! AmyRay - good luck with your trip to Auckland tomorrow. Out of curiousity, why Auckland if you're Welly based? Posted By: AmyRay Date Posted: 21 April 2009 at 11:39am Hi Lollypop, they are doing my procedure up in Akld as opposed to Wgtn because i have an extra step which they cant perform down here in Wgtn. I am having IVF with PGD done which means after egg collection (which is done in Akld), some of my egg cells will be sent overnight to Melbourne's fertility clinic to be tested. This is because i have a chromosomal translocation which means i have all the right number of chromosomes but one of them is partially joined to another one which can result in miscarriage or a down syndrome child. So basically they will test the cells in the eggs to see which ones have the right amount of chromosomes and then send them back to Akld a day later. Akld will then complete the IVFprocedure and only implant the eggs that have the correct chromosomes in the cells. I hope my long story makes some sense to you!!!! ------------- 26yrs old TTC 5yrs Endometriosis & Chromosomal Disorder Natural Jun 07 - BFP but MC at 11.5 wks IUI Jun 08 - BFP but MC at 11.5 wks First IVF/PGD Cycle Mar 09 - BFP but MC at 6 wks Posted By: karychick Date Posted: 21 April 2009 at 10:06pm Hi, thinking of you AmyRay and hope all goes really well tomorrow and over the next few days. Take it easy and maybe enjoy some chilled out r&r while you're here. Let us know how it all goes when you can. I start gonal F on thursday so that will be fun and games... heard about a few side effects but hoping not to get any bad ones as off to Melbourne for the weekend (girl shopping and coffee/chocolate therapy..) - long story cut short - the trip wasnt meant to be so close to starting gonal F and the egg collection, but I ended up starting my cycle early & couldnt change flights... Fingers crossed Posted By: Lollypop Date Posted: 21 April 2009 at 10:55pm Wow AmyRay, it's amazing what modern science can do. What well travelled eggs you will have!! Fingers crossed for you. And karychick - have fun in Melbourne. Hopefully a girly weekend will take your mind off the side effects. Posted By: Poppi Date Posted: 26 April 2009 at 4:53pm hi everyone, its great to find this thread as this is my first cycle and am I nervous about those buserelin and gonal injections! I am 40 so i have left it a bit late and we will be doing ICSI with FA so here's hoping Karychick I hope you had a great time in melbourne its a great city Posted By: ItchyFeet Date Posted: 26 April 2009 at 5:53pm Welcome Poppi. We're on our first cycle too, also ICSI with FA. The injections are fine, the thought is far worse than the doing. I wouldn't say it's routine for me yet, but it doesn't hurt at all. I've only had the buserelin so far, and apart from some tiredness, have not had any other side effects. In fact, I sometimes find it hard to even remember we're doing an IVF cycle. Best of luck for when you start. Posted By: avkiwi3 Date Posted: 27 April 2009 at 10:39am Hi All, I have been lurking in the thread and thought it was about time I posted. I am on week 4 of my first IVF cycle. I have a blood test Wednesday morning to see if I have down regulated and can start the Puregon injections. I have lost both fallopian tubes to ectopics but in-between those I conceived naturally and have a 5 year old. So all in all out chances are considered fairly good as I am only 32 don't have endo or pcos and have carried with no problems before. But I guess we will wait and see. Posted By: Lollypop Date Posted: 27 April 2009 at 1:31pm Hi everyone Had my first Buserelin injection this morning, my husband did it and it wasn't as bad as I thought - he didn't have to chase me round the bedroom as I'd imagined. It's a relief that we've finally started. Hey Poppi - like you I'm 40 and have left it a bit late, and we're doing ICSI too. When do you start and which FA are you going to? What protocol are you on? I'm on the microdose flare one, which is a bit shorter I think. Good luck Poppi and avkiwi3. AmyRay - how did it go in Auckland? And Karychick - how was Melbourne and gonal F? Are you close to egg collection? Posted By: naki_chick Date Posted: 01 May 2009 at 8:34am Hi Everyone, It's been a while but I had to coast a few days as my E2 levels were to high. Yesterday we had egg pick up and we have 5 eggs. I pretty much cried the whole 20 minutes. My first sedation pill had pretty much worn off by the time I got into thearte as I think something went wrong with the lady before me. My poor husband fainted mid way through.   However I am feeling much better today. We are waiting for the lab to confirm if all or how many eggs have been fertilised. They were going to do ICSI if it wasn't going to plan. We are using donor sperm so fingers crossed they are doing their job. It sounds like most of you are coming up to the same stage as me. I wish you all the best! Posted By: Lollypop Date Posted: 01 May 2009 at 10:17am Oh poor you naki chick, not a nice experience. And your husband fainting - a bit of a cliche!! Fingers crossed that you have some lovely embies Posted By: tulips Date Posted: 01 May 2009 at 5:42pm naki_chick Sorry your pick up didn't go smoothly Have you heard whether your eggs fertilised?   Good luck! Posted By: karychick Date Posted: 01 May 2009 at 7:43pm Hi all, good to catch up on what's been going on with you. Welcome Poppi and avkiwi3 Melbourne was awesome - so great to get away for the weekend and totally forget about IVF, (apart from smuggling drugs through Customs and sneaking into public toilets to shoot up) Gutted for you Naki_chick - that sounds like a nasty experience but hopefully it'll be worth it all! I've been having scans and bloods to see if we can go ahead with IVF however I havent really responded enough to warrant and egg pickup (and wasting a free cycle) so it's getting converted into an IUI instead. Dont really know much about it at all except I trigger tonight and then we go in and do our thing on sunday morning.... Anyone done this before? Any advice or handy info about success rates, what to expect etc? Posted By: Poppi Date Posted: 02 May 2009 at 9:31am Hi everyone, thanks for your encouragement about the injections. You are right its not that bad - but being the chicken I am, my partner has been doing them. I started the gonal last night. Not too many side effects accept for grumpiness Lollypop - Im on the microdose flare one and are going to FA in Hamilton maybe they put all us old girls on that one naki_chick - all the best Ive been reading this book by Robert Winston (famous english guy from television) called A child against all odds and the way explains things is really good. kary chick - In the above book he says that IUI it can be used for infertility that has a dual cause i.e. both the man and the women have challenges. He doesnt say anything about the success rates but talks about success rates improving if a split ejaculate method is used which means that they just use the first bit. Well good luck everyone Posted By: naki_chick Date Posted: 02 May 2009 at 9:55am Hi everyone, I have two embryo's out of the 5 eggs collected. One was not mature and only 2 fertilised through ICSI. Tomorrow we drive to Hamilton for the transfer. Very excited. Thanks again for your support. I tried to explain to my two sister in'laws what the experience was like but they really don't appreciate the emotions that go with it. They kept saying "wait till you give birth, now that's painfull". Not helpful at all. My husband said to me later he was about to slap them but helpfully changed the subject to his fainting episode. Poppi - last year I had 4 cycles of IUI unfortunately all were unsuccesful. There is another girl I met through the clinic, she got pregnant on the first IUI but sadly miscarried. However she is pregnant now I think on her third cycle and has just hit the 12 week mark. She is stoked and thankful she didn't have to have conventional IVF with the egg collection. Good luck everyone! Posted By: Poppi Date Posted: 02 May 2009 at 1:12pm Hi all naki_chick - Congratulations and all the best for the transfer

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