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Topic: Reasons for C/s
Posted By: fallen
Subject: Reasons for C/s
Date Posted: 05 December 2009 at 10:25pm
Why did you have one?

For me DD was an emergency c/s. She was brow presentation (face towards way out instead of top of her head).

DS was an elective. My liver functions were not as they should so Drs wanted him delivered 2 weeks early. Having already had a c/s Drs didn't want to risk inducing me, so another c/s it was. Turns out he was brow presentation too, so would have ended up with an emergency c/s if I'd tried a VBAC. Midwife thinks its probably something to do with the shape of my pelvis that makes my babys do the brow presentation thing.

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Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 05 December 2009 at 10:37pm
My first emergency c-section was started off as an induction due to mild prec-lampsia, followed by a long labour due posterior baby (31 hours!), then fetal distress because of failure to progress.
My second c-section was just simply failure to progress after I walked in to hospital in early labour, 9 hours later at 5cm they told me I had to have a c-section.

I don't much like hospitals now.

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Posted By: peachy
Date Posted: 05 December 2009 at 10:39pm
DD was an emergency after 27 hours of labour, 3 hours of pushing, failed ventouse twice. She was brow presentation, posterior and a big baby for a first baby, weighing 9lbs and she was born at 38 weeks!

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Posted By: peachy
Date Posted: 05 December 2009 at 10:40pm
toniellis you are an ispiration to us all!!

I have read your DD's birth story, well done!!!!

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Posted By: james
Date Posted: 06 December 2009 at 7:19am
mine was my pelvis is to small for baby to get thur which means any more babys will be a c-section aswell

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Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 06 December 2009 at 9:15am
Originally posted by peachy peachy wrote:

toniellis you are an ispiration to us all!!

I have read your DD's birth story, well done!!!!


Aw thanks Peachy

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Posted By: mamanee
Date Posted: 06 December 2009 at 9:20am
Sam was an elective c-section at 39.5 weeks due to turning himself into a kneeling breech and tucking his foot under my pelvis at about 37 weeks.   There was NO way he was ever going to come out naturally.    Other factors I had were high BP and lots of fluid but the breech thing was the deciding factor. Will be having my VBAC in a few days.


Posted By: FreeSpirit
Date Posted: 06 December 2009 at 9:54am
My labour ended in emergency cesarean because even at 7cms dilated and full labour, my daughter was unable to descend as her skull was impacted in my pelvis. Her heart was slowing to the point of nearly stopping during contractions and she was in full distress. I also had an extended rupture of waters and was passing meconium in the leak.

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Posted By: palomino
Date Posted: 06 December 2009 at 10:22am
Mine was emergancy due to my cervix being unable to dilate. So future ones will be csect too. 12hours on the drip they finally figured it out. Couldn't even have an IUD inserted thats how closed up it was.


Posted By: Mama2two
Date Posted: 06 December 2009 at 12:18pm
I had a natural birth with DD, but ended in a C-section with DS after it became apparent that he was never going to fit through my pelvis due to his size and being posterior. They finally decided this (I had been telling them for weeks after finding out he was much bigger than DD) after a lot of hours of labour when my cervix was starting to swell instead of dilate. I did manage to get to 8cm but he never descended due to the way he was lying.
I was very pleased just to get him out by that time

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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 06 December 2009 at 3:10pm
Spencer was breech so had an elective. I nearly had an emergency one at 35 weeks when my waters ruptured and my labour started, thankfully it stopped cos it was all a bit stressful as I had been told he was head down 12 hours before my waters broke. They wouldn't attempt to turn him cos of my ruptured waters, and I leaked water for 3 weeks, was in hospital and on antibiotics. Was prepped 3 times for emergency each time my "false" labour started, we made it to 38 weeks before he came via elective c/s.

Kyle was VBAC, 14 hour labour, 2 hours pushing then one final push with the help of a vontouse.

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Posted By: LeahandJoel
Date Posted: 06 December 2009 at 6:01pm

Leah was 4 weeks early, after 12 hours of contractions 2mins apart I was only 2 cm dialated, she went into distress, and I was a failure to progress.

Joel was a VBAC, total 10 hrs labour, 3 of those pushing and finally delivered with forceps



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Posted By: Andriea
Date Posted: 06 December 2009 at 7:27pm
1st baby early induction due to mild pre-eclamsia 13hour labour only 2cm fetal distress, my heart rate up the crapper - emergency section

2-5th babys natural births, 2 at home

6th baby - overdue went into labour after 2days still only 4cm, waters had been broken 12 hours, fetal distress, he was having major decels, emergency section where they found his head was in an awkward position and he was never gonna come out the natural way.

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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 07 December 2009 at 10:47am
andriea- did you have to wait till 3 or 4 to get your home birth? i just wondered cause mw not happy with me birthing anywhere but hospital? (not that I'm brave enough fro home birth) :)

E was emergency section after induction twice and eventually he was posterier and 9.5cm and went into severe distress....this baby will probably be an elective .. not sure yet.

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Posted By: X
Date Posted: 07 December 2009 at 11:06am
DS emergency C section after 12 hours labour. Failure to progress (I was 4 cm dilated when I arrived at hospital & never dilated any further, despite having a syntocin drip ). DS went into fetal distress eventually. I could only lie on my left side, if I lay on my right side or my back then his heart rate would drop. They didn't want to give me anymore syntocin because it may have made his heart rate drop even more. They did a blood test using blood from his head & found he was in trouble.

When they took him out he was posterior & his chin was flexed instead of being tucked in. Also the cord was wrapped around his neck. I don't think he was EVER going to come out by himself. His apgars were great though, which led the MW to say that the blood test they did was probably incorrect.

MW wants me to try for a VBAC this time, but I don't know if I can go through the stress of a crash ceaser again. Those were the worst 5-10 minutes of my life. I think I might just go straight to the elective & have a nice calm birth experience this time.

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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 07 December 2009 at 11:58am
odette i hear you on that! i assume mw and OB will want VBAC but i dont think i can emotionally go through that crash c again.. his first APGAR only 3 and had cord wrapped too(forgot to say i was induced due to pre PE)

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Posted By: X
Date Posted: 07 December 2009 at 12:10pm
Originally posted by Four_eyes Four_eyes wrote:

odette i hear you on that! i assume mw and OB will want VBAC but i dont think i can emotionally go through that crash c again.. his first APGAR only 3 and had cord wrapped too(forgot to say i was induced due to pre PE)


Yeah my MW REALLY wants me to try for the VBAC but she has also said that obviously she can't guarantee that I won't end up having another emergency C section. To me I would rather have an elective than an emergency any day. And the recovery from my Csection was great, so I'm not worried about that. The only thing that worries me a little is not being able to pick DS up for 6 weeks, but he'll just have to cope.

I'm really scared they are going to try force me into a VBAC

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Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 07 December 2009 at 12:38pm
My First DS was a ventouse birth (heart rate dropped)
second emergency CS.....I think he was brow presentation too...or posterior...I have had conflicting reports. Basically he was in a perfect position when they broke my waters at 4cm, 2hours later fully dilated and he hadnt descended. MW did an internal and said "thats not what I should be feeling" He was 9lb 2 oz so wouldnt have got through. My OB wonders if my pelvis does a weird twist at the last bit and thats why my babies get stuck. Tom was littler and so made it through.


Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 07 December 2009 at 12:40pm
Originally posted by Four_eyes Four_eyes wrote:

andriea- did you have to wait till 3 or 4 to get your home birth? i just wondered cause mw not happy with me birthing anywhere but hospital? (not that I'm brave enough fro home birth) :)


Four eyes I think you will find that it is more just your midwife rather than having to wait. I was offered a homebirth for my first baby (REALLY wish I had chosen that now!!) but my aunt (who is a practising midwife in West AUcks) just won't do homebirths as the primary midwife because she doesn't feel comfortable doing so. Although she has been secondary midwife for homebirths before.

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Posted By: AzzaNZ
Date Posted: 07 December 2009 at 3:21pm
DD was a c-section because she was breech neither midwife nor gynae/ob would attempt a vaginal delivery with the way she was positioned.

Hoping for a head down baby and a VBAC when I have another. I hated the c-section recovery!

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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 07 December 2009 at 5:03pm
odette - me too..though i asked if OB said prefer VBAC (i asked the mw) can i still choose c section and she said it is ultimately my choice as it is with anyone who has had one before...

I'm worried bout the lifting thing too..though having trouble lifting him too much atm:(

toni- she said that because of my last birth she wouldnt be happy having me birth anywhere else.. I would never do a home birth so i didnt ask her but yeah i guess you may be right.. not sure if she just meant in case something happened(which she mentioned) or other reasons too?

mine was ok but i just hated it..so much blood(thought there might have been less with c section) and noone told me i could get after pains and they hurt a lot:( hopefully this time will be a much better experience!

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Posted By: Andriea
Date Posted: 07 December 2009 at 9:02pm
Originally posted by Four_eyes Four_eyes wrote:

andriea- did you have to wait till 3 or 4 to get your home birth? i just wondered cause mw not happy with me birthing anywhere but hospital? (not that I'm brave enough fro home birth) :)



#2 was a planned homebirth, but I stupidly decided after 17 hours of active labour I needed pain relief. mw came to my house and checked me and I was only 5cm so we went to hospital for pain relief. We got there and she was born 10 mins later with no pain relief , I was gutted I hadnt stayed at home. #3&4 were home water births, #5 was hospital (just, lol) because they were concerned as she was so overdue and Id had a lot of reduced movements, shoulda listened to myself though and not gone as again she was born 20mins after we got there with no pain relief, we were home 2 hours later, lol

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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 07 December 2009 at 9:23pm
KA, you get after pains no matter which way they come out, and sorry to say this but expect them to be worse second time around. Mine were far worse with Kyle and he came out the old fashion way

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Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 07 December 2009 at 10:23pm
Originally posted by Four_eyes Four_eyes wrote:

odette - me too..though i asked if OB said prefer VBAC (i asked the mw) can i still choose c section and she said it is ultimately my choice as it is with anyone who has had one before...

I'm worried bout the lifting thing too..though having trouble lifting him too much atm:(

toni- she said that because of my last birth she wouldnt be happy having me birth anywhere else.. I would never do a home birth so i didnt ask her but yeah i guess you may be right.. not sure if she just meant in case something happened(which she mentioned) or other reasons too?

mine was ok but i just hated it..so much blood(thought there might have been less with c section) and noone told me i could get after pains and they hurt a lot:( hopefully this time will be a much better experience!


LOL yeah most midwives will say hospital only after a c-section.

Sadly afterpains are the joys of having children & happen regardless of how they leave the womb. Each baby the afterpains are worse.
Just personally I would have a vaginal birth EVERY day of the week than have a single c-section again LOL But thats just me

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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 08 December 2009 at 8:35am
Originally posted by cuppatea cuppatea wrote:

KA, you get after pains no matter which way they come out, and sorry to say this but expect them to be worse second time around. Mine were far worse with Kyle and he came out the old fashion way


yeah i didnt know a thing about them..and after people were like oh you dont get them with your first baby..I'm like well i freaking did:) yeah i heard they will be worse but i guess at least this time i will know what they are instead of wondering what the hell was going on:)

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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 08 December 2009 at 8:37am
andriea- thanks for explaining

toni- lol yeah I got that idea:) if they could guarantee me he would be ok then i would go for VBAC.. as obviously the recovery etc is way better.. and the thought of major ab surgery isnt a great thing.. wish i was as brave as you!:)

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Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 08 December 2009 at 10:04am
LOL would it suprise you four eyes that it was not about being brave, it was more I was TERRIFIED of going back to hospital!
I was scared of the doctors, the hospital itself, surgery, the recovery & all the risks involved with c-sections.
I was scared of having 2 pre-schoolers and a newborn baby and having to try & deal with that and recovery, also knowing I had very little time before I had to go back to work (was back after 3 or 4 weeks after the birth).

For me having the vaginal birth was far far less scary & I knew the only way I was going to manage it was under my terms, which meant having Bubs at home.

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Posted By: Babykatnz
Date Posted: 08 December 2009 at 6:11pm
DS was a crash c-section after 72 hours of labour (finally got an epidural in the last 3-4 hours) His heart rate started dropping too low... his apgar was 0 by the time they got him out, and he was rushed off to NICU so I didnt see him til the next day, or hold him til the day after that...

I am another one who knew I wouldnt cope with the possibility of another crash section, and the ob agreed there was a pretty good chance of my having an emergency one if I attempted a VBAC (something in the operation report about adhesions noted inside uterus during first c-section) so he agreed to an elecitve.

My elective was miles better than the crash section. I got skin-to-skin within the first hour, and we were only seperated long enough to wheel us to recovery, and from there to our room. Apart from some blood loss during the op, everything went perfectly. I only had pethidine as pain relief for the first 24 hours, and panadol after that, no burst abcess in transit this time (was a lovely xmas eve/day spent in hospital with DS after an abcess burstfrom my c-section wound in the car while driving up through the Bombays!) and was up and about easily before the first week was out.

I feel I have a much better bond with DD as a result of having that time with her right from her first minutes, and having time to bond with her without trying to recover from a traumatic experience myself.

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Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 08 December 2009 at 9:50pm
jack was an elective c/s at 39wks because he was breech. i was gutted but was happy to have a baby either way. recovery was swift so i thought the whole experience was ok

charli was a week overdue. i was desperate for a vbac and was so happy she was head down. after 6-7hrs labour i started pushing....after 2hrs, her heartrate was all over the place and she would go back up after every push....failed vonteuse, failed forceps i was taken to theatre

i was absolutely gutted! i had managed with no pain relief and was hoping to 'go all the way' as this was our last baby, but she was posterior with her head flexed, so i had no chance of pushing her out myself.

i now have a scar due to a tear on my uterine wall, so any future babies i have will be a c/s

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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 09 December 2009 at 6:33pm
Originally posted by toniellis toniellis wrote:

LOL would it suprise you four eyes that it was not about being brave, it was more I was TERRIFIED of going back to hospital!
I was scared of the doctors, the hospital itself, surgery, the recovery & all the risks involved with c-sections.
I was scared of having 2 pre-schoolers and a newborn baby and having to try & deal with that and recovery, also knowing I had very little time before I had to go back to work (was back after 3 or 4 weeks after the birth).

For me having the vaginal birth was far far less scary & I knew the only way I was going to manage it was under my terms, which meant having Bubs at home.


fair enough..very well said!

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Posted By: jacobsmummy
Date Posted: 10 December 2009 at 2:10pm
With Jacob i had a emerncy c-section at 35wks 5days cos i had a scan that day at 1pm cos i had Gest Diabetes and they discoverd that he had stopped growing (scan said he was 4lb something) and the dopplers were bad, had him that night at 7.56pm and he was 5lbs 1oz and placenta was a 3rd dead hes now 4 and half years old.

With my 2nd baby , baby Isabella she was born by emerncy c-section at 5.44am at 31wks cos i had a placenta apurbtion had bleeding and blood clots after 4am was scary! i had to have a 2bag of bloods (blood trasnfuin)
isabella spent 6wks in neonatal unit she came home at 38wks gestation.

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Posted By: jacobsmummy
Date Posted: 10 December 2009 at 2:11pm
Midwife suggested that if we have another baby that i plan a c-section and i get diabetes when pregnant .

oh isabella was 3lbs 1oz at 31wks.

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Posted By: MissAngel
Date Posted: 10 December 2009 at 7:05pm
Failed to progress on 2nd induction and a whole week of crappy labour that wasnt going anywhere.


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Posted By: palomino
Date Posted: 10 December 2009 at 9:21pm
Just watched the business of being born. Really interesting stuff about c sects!


Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 13 December 2009 at 6:23pm
My emergency one with Caden was after 47 hours of labour, 9.5cm dilated but lip of cervix was in the way and it couldn't be moved so got rushed down for emerg section, lost a lot of blood and had to have a blood transfusion, ai also had what they call Paralyzed bowels, where the kinds stop working and you cant pass wind or anything, that was nasty, had to have x rays etc, but came right after drinking lots of hot water and walking round!

Isabella, I had an elective c section at 41 weeks 4 days as my cervix was doing nothing! So rather than wait it out and risk ending up with another emerg c section I opted for an elective, luckily the hospital could fit me in a few days after my MW appointment! It went well and I was home on day 4!

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Posted By: neivaD
Date Posted: 14 December 2009 at 9:45am
First c-section failure to wait, midwife interference at 9cm, she broke my waters, went back to 4cm, transfered to hospital from birthcenter, epidural, synto, back to 9cm, given choice of forceps or c-section despite everything with both baby and I being fine. Babies head was asynclitic, which would have been fixeable had my waters not been broken and I hadnt had an epi which stuck me on the bed. I had a uterine infection & hemorrhage after that c-section as they left placenta behind

2nd c-section, unassisted birth transfer cos I felt something was wrong. 10cm at arrival, told to push when I didnt feel like it. My time limit was up, bullied into repeat c-section. (But I did feel it was the right choice though) turns out I had a bandles ring, and I sustained a tear in my uterus during surger, as well as an extremely nasty wound infection from the c-section, And severe PTSD.

3rd baby was a totally and utterly boring natural birth, 5 hours from first twinge to picking him up off the bed, no drugs, 1hr 15 mins after arriving at the hospital. Was a planned homebirth, but my midwife wasnt working that night, and her backup wouldnt travel to me.


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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 14 December 2009 at 1:12pm
wow neivaD! That gives me hope that if I have another baby I CAN try for a natural birth again! The hospital etc told me that if I have another baby then it would have to be a C Section, but I know of ladies that have had a natural after 2 or more c sections.

Isabella was going to be a natural birth but it just wasn't happening down there.

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Posted By: mamanee
Date Posted: 15 December 2009 at 9:37pm
Originally posted by neeandsam neeandsam wrote:

Sam was an elective c-section at 39.5 weeks due to turning himself into a kneeling breech and tucking his foot under my pelvis at about 37 weeks.   There was NO way he was ever going to come out naturally.    Other factors I had were high BP and lots of fluid but the breech thing was the deciding factor. Will be having my VBAC in a few days.


Well, I tried for my VBAC, was due to be induced at 41 weeks and two days, got there at 3PM on the Tuesday and was already 4CM, so long story short, I was in active labour for over 20 hours, the pain was so extreme I was passing out from the gas, and felt that something was wrong.   I got to 6CM, then back to 4CM, his head just wasn't coming down and I just wasn't dilating much at all.   Failed epidural, pethidine did nothing.   I begged and begged for a c-section for hours and they finally listened to me at about 4PM Wednesday afternoon.

I will not be labouring again, I would rather be shot.   So elective c-section it will be for any other children I have.   


Posted By: lisa85
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 2:44pm
I personally hated the thought of pushing out one baby let alone two lol! So I wanted one from the start. Esme was breech as well so that just sealed the deal.

I had an elective at 37 weeks.

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Posted By: X
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 6:44pm
Originally posted by neeandsam neeandsam wrote:

Originally posted by neeandsam neeandsam wrote:

Sam was an elective c-section at 39.5 weeks due to turning himself into a kneeling breech and tucking his foot under my pelvis at about 37 weeks.   There was NO way he was ever going to come out naturally.    Other factors I had were high BP and lots of fluid but the breech thing was the deciding factor. Will be having my VBAC in a few days.


Well, I tried for my VBAC, was due to be induced at 41 weeks and two days, got there at 3PM on the Tuesday and was already 4CM, so long story short, I was in active labour for over 20 hours, the pain was so extreme I was passing out from the gas, and felt that something was wrong.   I got to 6CM, then back to 4CM, his head just wasn't coming down and I just wasn't dilating much at all.   Failed epidural, pethidine did nothing.   I begged and begged for a c-section for hours and they finally listened to me at about 4PM Wednesday afternoon.

I will not be labouring again, I would rather be shot.   So elective c-section it will be for any other children I have.   


OMG that sounds awful. You poor thing-what a traumatic experience. I hope you don't mind me saying but after reading your post under birth stories I think your MW is a little crazy & a real beearch.

Right DEFINITELY elective C section for me this time.

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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 17 December 2009 at 4:49pm
Originally posted by lisa85 lisa85 wrote:

I personally hated the thought of pushing out one baby let alone two lol! So I wanted one from the start. Esme was breech as well so that just sealed the deal.

I had an elective at 37 weeks.


hugs Renee that sounds awful:(

Lisa- if you only had one baby the first time you wouldnt necessarily get to choose..so lucky you had two:) i talked to my mw cause bub in great position atm and I'm sure Ob will say VBAC.. and everyone else wants that even DH ..she said ultimately my decision.. cause i already had one (so you will be ok there) if i never have labour again I'll be totally happy..I'm not one of those it's all wonderful and necessary and the way it's supposed to be kind of people.. but having said all that this time i have to think about recovery etc time as well!

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Posted By: jano1
Date Posted: 20 December 2009 at 8:39pm
I was induced at 42 weeks. I was 1cm dilated and despite gels, syntocin and everything else they threw at me, I was still only 3cms after 30 hours. Turns out she was lateral and her head was twisted and facing upwards (what is that called) so was never going to make it out on her own. Luckily she was never in any distress. in hindsight my MW thinks she got stuck at 32 weeks when her head dropped down.

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Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 21 December 2009 at 10:27am
I was an emergency c-section at 33w4d after 5.5 hours of labour and none of the drugs to stop labour working. Jade was breech anyway (which we knew from the word go) so I would've been going in for an elective, but even if she was head down and I had a VB with her, I would have needed a c-s with Amber because she was tangled in my ribs and had the cord wrapped around her neck....so I'm kind of glad that Jade was breech!! I had no probs with recovery.

I know I want to experience a vb as well, but I'm kind of glad I didn't get to experience a vb and a c-s on the same day


Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 03 January 2010 at 12:31pm
I was induced at 38 weeks with PE (moderate but had gone from mild to moderate in 24 hours so were worried about fast progression). Jake was 3/5 engaged and my cervix was softening but still very high (OB said so, MW had a lot of trouble finding it to insert the gel)

After 23 hours I had dilated to 1cm and my waters broken (baby and I were fine to proceed at this point). Contractions came out of nowhere and I went into shock but after 3hours I was 4cm and was given an epi (oh the relief) and syntocinin (still not sure why as up until that point I was dilating fine). An hour later I was 5cm so progressing text book for first birth. Suddenly Jakes heart rate started to drop and another internal showed my cervix was swelling and I was back to 4cm and Jake was possibly brow presentation. While my mw was consulting with the OB Jakes heart started to drop even further (around 60bpm during each contraction which were coming every 2 mins) and the head OB stepped in and instructed a c-section had to be done.

Interestingly, they stopped the syntocinin immediately and Jakes heart rate went back to normal.

When he was finally delivered (after 42.5 hours) he had completely disengaged and I was instructed that there was no way he was ever coming out naturally... something to do with the position he was in.

I still wonder if that syntocinin had anything to do with it....

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Posted By: Janelle21
Date Posted: 04 January 2010 at 2:23pm
I had a C-Section due to a severe case of pre-eclampsia, my boy was born at just 28 weeks he was only 1000grams he is a healthy little boy now at 5 months old! My operation only lasted about 30mins it was fantastic thanks to the awesome team at Auckland Hospital!


Posted By: Chickaboo
Date Posted: 04 January 2010 at 10:31pm
First ceasarian because Rhyley was breeched and ECV didn;t work - he was a big baby and placenta was in the way.

Second cause 'Failure to progress' after waters been broken for almost 3 days, induced on drip for around7 or 8 hours and still only 2cm dilated - same as 24 hour before and Elodies head not even engaged - we made the decision to ceasar. I do not regret it and also got a tubel ligation at the same time (4th child and all not wanting more) Also the OB tidied my scar up - as I have had 3 in the same place. Recovery and night after was so much better than my first ceasar although that could do alot with Elodie feeding much better than what Rhyley did.

I really wanted my VBAC but it wasn't meant to be. I guess I have experienced both types and feel 'qualified' to speak both sides LOL (first 2 were VB and so different from each other as well)

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Posted By: Chickaboo
Date Posted: 04 January 2010 at 10:43pm
On a funny note:

when i was in the maternity home the lady across from me also had a emergency ceasarian (although i never felt mine was an emergency its classed as thaT)

when i was talking to her husband he said his wife wanted a natural birth after having a ceasar first time (VBAC) and I said I was the same (we got induced the same day) and hes like ' Why would you want a Natural - I just don't get it - rather it be pulled out than pushed out any day' LOL Men just don't get it!

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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 05 January 2010 at 12:30pm
chickaboo- yeah my Dh didnt get it either till he saw the recovery and how i was after.. and now he is the one wanting me to go VBAC..

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Posted By: Annie
Date Posted: 12 January 2010 at 12:30pm
Charlie was extended breech the entire pregnancy. My obstetrician scanned at 34.5 weeks and we had almost run out of fluid around Charlie so the chance of him turned was nil.

The next day I was booked in for a C/S and it all went perfectly except for the delay of another day because they didn't have room in their newborn intensive care unit, so they decided to keep him inside for another day and closely monitor in case anything went wrong. But I was in the right place.

Recovery was much easier than I expected it to be. Charlie and I spend a week in hospital with him in intensive care for five of those days because of his size (not too tiny at 5lb5oz). My scar was tiny as my obstetrician knew how big Charlie was going to be when born and only cut as much as needed instead of slitting me hip to hip. Yay for Dr Paul!

It couldn't have gone better and we'll be heading straight to Dr Paul for our next pregnancy.


Posted By: TC747
Date Posted: 12 January 2010 at 9:27pm
Hi
My son was born via em. c/s due to failure to progress during 2nd stage. I dilated fully and pushed for a few hours, but he never descended fully, he was 9lb 6oz, posterior and deflexed head.

I am now pregnant 18weeks with my second, I would like to try for a vbac, but nervous about having another crash section. I would love to hear from anyone who has succeed in having a vbac, seems to be a bit of a rare thing? Alot of c/s friends have ended up having 2nd & 3rd c/s, most electively but some emergency one’s too.

I really feel in a bind, go for an elective & know what you are getting or go for a vbac and maybe avoid a c/s entirely.
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Posted By: X
Date Posted: 13 January 2010 at 9:54am
Originally posted by TC747 TC747 wrote:

Hi
My son was born via em. c/s due to failure to progress during 2nd stage. I dilated fully and pushed for a few hours, but he never descended fully, he was 9lb 6oz, posterior and deflexed head.

I am now pregnant 18weeks with my second, I would like to try for a vbac, but nervous about having another crash section. I would love to hear from anyone who has succeed in having a vbac, seems to be a bit of a rare thing? Alot of c/s friends have ended up having 2nd & 3rd c/s, most electively but some emergency one’s too.

I really feel in a bind, go for an elective & know what you are getting or go for a vbac and maybe avoid a c/s entirely.
Cheers


Your labour sounds very much like mine-my son was in the same position, but he also had the cord wrapped around his neck & went in to distress. I only got to 4cm dilated though, despite having lots of syntocin & 12 hours of labour.

I feel exactly the way you do-adamant I don't want another crash c-section. If that's going to happen I'd rather just have the elective. The MW says it's impossible to predict what will happen. She said it's pretty much a 50/50 chance of successful vbac vs emergency c-section. I don't like them odds, so at this stage I think it'll be elective for me.

From some of the posts I've read it seems that the best way of emsuring you have a vbac is to avoid any drugs during labour, & I am DEFINITELY not doing it without the epidural, so I just don't have much hope of a VBAC for me.

Anyway, just wnated to say I know how you feel. I am seeing a specialist on 15 feb to discuss my options.

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Posted By: Febgirl
Date Posted: 13 January 2010 at 4:04pm
My first birth was about as ideal as you can get - 6 hour labour, gas only, no stitches and I was up and in the shower 1/2 hour later.

This time around things didn't go as smoothly - I was fully dilated within 3 hours of contractions becoming regular but sometime during that period DD turned posterior and got stuck. After a few hours of futile pushing I was taken to theater, they tried forceps but she just wasn't budging so emergency c-section it was.

I feel fine about it, there was no other way she was going to come out (she was 4.1kg, my first was 3.4kg) and I consider myself lucky really - 50 or 100 years one or both of us probably wouldn't have survived the birth. Before this birth the idea of a c-section terrified me but it was a relief in the end to have one after the way the labour went.

I've also found recovery so much better than I'd heard or was expecting, was never in much pain at all.

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Posted By: X
Date Posted: 13 January 2010 at 7:20pm
Originally posted by Febgirl Febgirl wrote:

My first birth was about as ideal as you can get - 6 hour labour, gas only, no stitches and I was up and in the shower 1/2 hour later.

This time around things didn't go as smoothly - I was fully dilated within 3 hours of contractions becoming regular but sometime during that period DD turned posterior and got stuck. After a few hours of futile pushing I was taken to theater, they tried forceps but she just wasn't budging so emergency c-section it was.

Febgirl-having experienced both the vaginal birth & the C section-what do you think you would do if you had another baby? Would you try for a vbac or just have an elective to save yourself the stress of another possible emergency C section?

I feel fine about it, there was no other way she was going to come out (she was 4.1kg, my first was 3.4kg) and I consider myself lucky really - 50 or 100 years one or both of us probably wouldn't have survived the birth. Before this birth the idea of a c-section terrified me but it was a relief in the end to have one after the way the labour went.

I've also found recovery so much better than I'd heard or was expecting, was never in much pain at all.


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Posted By: Nutella
Date Posted: 14 January 2010 at 5:35pm
I had emergency c sect with my little one. I started to bleed but didn't realise how much blood til I was in the hospital. the midwife was a bit concerned so put on the monitor and did internal to see how far dilated I was (5 cm) and next thing I was having a strong contraction and Liam's heart rate dropped to 80. The midwife said 'You're baby is not happy' and immediately called in other people, kept monitoring and then called in the surgery team. Funnily enough my contractions pretty much stopped and I went into what I would call denial or survival mode, I just stared at the wall and stayed relatively calm!!
Turns out that Liam had a short umbilical cord, about half the length of normal so when I had contractions and he was desecending, it was pulling the placenta from the wall...there was no way he was being delivered vaginally. In fact it was lucky in a way that the c sect happened then as if we had waited to see how he kept responding the placenta would have clean come away and would have been a worse emergency.
Next time I am having an elective c sect, because it was so blimmin scary and there is no way to find out if it will happen again or not. Honestly could not care less about the whole birthing experience because we have bonded, recovery was fine, I was home on day 3 and I am just so happy to have our little miracle baby here. Midwife said she would not blame me for wanting an elective next time too so that was nice of her! I am so pleased she made the call when she did.

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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 14 January 2010 at 6:12pm
TC747, I had a VBAC last year after an elective c/s for my first who was breech. I also had an epidural. My labour started at 3pm, I went to the hospital at 8pm (we are a fair distance from the hospital and I was concerned about being stuck in the car for a long time cos of sitting making the contractions feel worse) I got to the hospital and was only 3 stinking cms. By 11pm after trying everything else (except pethidine which I would never take) I asked for an epidural, took till midnight to get it, mw then checked again and I was only 4cm. By 2am the epi was wearing off, despite me being on the one that you can keep topping up and I felt pressure in my bum. Mw had a talk to my about synotycin and "bypassing the vagina" as she called it before checking me again. When she did check I was 10cm already and he was through the lip of the cervix and ready to be pushed out. They allowed me to push for just over 2 hours (epi completely wore off, but I didn't care, pushing is a lot different to the labour before it), then I started getting immense pain between contractions so OB was called into check me in case it was my scar, turns out it was the position he was in and was his shoulder hurting me, because of the time of me pushing and also the pain they offered me vontouse delivery to which I happily agreed, I would have agreed to anything I think. One push with vontouse and his head popped out and then I pushed the rest of him out.

So it is possible and it is possible with pain relief as well. I think if you do decide to labour then it's good to get a mw with VBAC experience, mine was awesome and made a huge difference to how it all went. Also a flexed presentation is something that happens more frequently in first babies so it probably wouldn't happen again.

My friend had an emergency first time around after getting to 10cm but baby not engaging, he was also 9lb 6oz and brow presentation. Second time around she decided to labour, however once again her baby had not descended, they did not wait for her to get to 10cm though and she called time on her labour attempt 6 hours in and at 6cm dilated because he showed no signs of getting in the right position. He turned out to also be brow presentation and they think maybe she has a wafty pelvis.

So in short you can try, if you think it is something you want and it may all go ok or you can decide to change your mind and ask for a c/s at any point. My mw said apart from the baby crowning you can pretty much change your mind as far into labour as you like, there is not really a point where they say nope too late no c/s for you.

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Posted By: X
Date Posted: 15 January 2010 at 8:31am
Originally posted by cuppatea cuppatea wrote:




So in short you can try, if you think it is something you want and it may all go ok or you can decide to change your mind and ask for a c/s at any point. My mw said apart from the baby crowning you can pretty much change your mind as far into labour as you like, there is not really a point where they say nope too late no c/s for you.


That's interesting. I thought that if I went to the specialist apt & we decided I would try for a vbac & see how it went that I would pretty much HAVE to have the vbac. I didn't relaise I could still change my mind anytime. Are you sure? I was worried I wouldn't be ablt to get a c-section anymore, & that kind of freaks me out. I like having the option if it goes to poo. Hmm, may have to talk to MW about this some more. I wish I wasn't so confused...

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Posted By: neivaD
Date Posted: 15 January 2010 at 8:47am
Originally posted by Odettenz Odettenz wrote:

Originally posted by cuppatea cuppatea wrote:




So in short you can try, if you think it is something you want and it may all go ok or you can decide to change your mind and ask for a c/s at any point. My mw said apart from the baby crowning you can pretty much change your mind as far into labour as you like, there is not really a point where they say nope too late no c/s for you.


That's interesting. I thought that if I went to the specialist apt & we decided I would try for a vbac & see how it went that I would pretty much HAVE to have the vbac. I didn't relaise I could still change my mind anytime. Are you sure? I was worried I wouldn't be ablt to get a c-section anymore, & that kind of freaks me out. I like having the option if it goes to poo. Hmm, may have to talk to MW about this some more. I wish I wasn't so confused...


Nah, you will be able to say nope this isn't working, I would prefer to have a c-section. You have an advantage in the fact that you have already had a c-section, though of course if you are 8-10cm (transition time, where many people ask for c-sections lol) they may recommend just holding out a little bit longer as labour often times goes quicker the second time around, and that last two cm may progress quickly and then you would be pushing lol

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Posted By: Febgirl
Date Posted: 15 January 2010 at 2:40pm
Odettenz - No more babies for me but if there was another time, I would try for a VBAC but I would be paying for a private OB in case things didn't go well - we'd find the money somehow! I had to wait a long time before they would take me down to theater due to the hospital policy of making you push for a certain amount of time, my midwife told me afterwards that it was ridiculous and most OBs would have had me in theater 1.5 hours before I finally ended up there (and that's 1.5 hours without pain relief fully dilated!)

Edited - just reread and are you already under specialist care? In that case I would try for a VBAC - my problem was the time period between realising that this baby wasn't going to come out and finally being allowed to go to theater. I don't think you would have this problem.

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Posted By: X
Date Posted: 15 January 2010 at 7:53pm
Originally posted by Febgirl Febgirl wrote:

Odettenz - No more babies for me but if there was another time, I would try for a VBAC but I would be paying for a private OB in case things didn't go well - we'd find the money somehow! I had to wait a long time before they would take me down to theater due to the hospital policy of making you push for a certain amount of time, my midwife told me afterwards that it was ridiculous and most OBs would have had me in theater 1.5 hours before I finally ended up there (and that's 1.5 hours without pain relief fully dilated!)

Edited - just reread and are you already under specialist care? In that case I would try for a VBAC - my problem was the time period between realising that this baby wasn't going to come out and finally being allowed to go to theater. I don't think you would have this problem.


Nope, not yet under specialist care, but will be seeing the specialist at Greenlane hospital mid-feb to discuss options, so I guess I should have some specialist care after that.

My MW pretty keen for me to have a go at the vbac (she says I am young & fit & healthy & should be absolutely fine), but I think she is also the very responsible type & if things weren't going well she would get me a c-section immediately. She is pretty down to earth. She has said she thinks I should at least try labour, but that she will be monitoring me regularly to make sure things are running smoothly. . Hmmm, lots to think about. I guess I have time at least to make up my mind.

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Posted By: monkey33
Date Posted: 17 January 2010 at 10:05am
I had a csection due to DS being breech - it was going to be an elective (I hadn't found out the date yet) but he had other plans and I went into labour at 38 weeks, 1 day.

I have heard of alot of people feeling ripped off having a csection - perhaps it is because I don't have a vaginal birth to compare it to, but I thoroughly enjoyed my birth experience. The recovery is a little tough but nothing unmanageable. I can definitely say it hurt more having the MW feeling how dilated I was compared to any of the surgery or recovery!



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Posted By: TC747
Date Posted: 18 January 2010 at 1:54pm
Thanks for your responses, nice to hear that I don't have to make a hard & fast decision just yet.
I will do some more research and no doubt have multiple chats with MW & OB to discuss options etc...
Will let you know how things pan out!
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Posted By: HollyC
Date Posted: 19 January 2010 at 11:55am
Only really skimmed through all of the replies, so not sure if I was in the same boat as anyone else...

I had an elective caesar - first baby. Had a growth scan at 38 weeks which estimated baby to weigh about 11lb 6oz. Straight to the hospital for a meeting with the OB who almost refused to let me try delivering naturally due to the high possibility of shoulder dystocia, and the likelihood of an emergency caesar in any case. Went in at 7am when I was 40 weeks and 3 days, and E was born at 8:57am weighing a very healthy 12lb 120z!


Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 19 January 2010 at 1:07pm
i am having another c section most likely.. and it will be due to him being posterier.. (again!!) and because i prefer one..but yeah 2 posterier babies!:)

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Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: 21 January 2010 at 12:09pm
#1 was for breech presentation
#2 was because after I weighed up the options I had been given it seemed likely that if I didn't choose an elective I would end up having an emergency rather than a VBAC. I wasn't allowed to go overdue, I had to 'progress adequately' with no complications and I couldn't be induced if I had another IUGR like #1.

As it was after being breech for a few weeks at the end and then never engaging, DD#2 was so NOT engaged that she had to be popped out from under my ribs when she was delivered in theatre so I'm pretty sure I never would have had a VBAC and I think I made the right call with the elective.

My MW thinks my pelvis might be a bit of a strange shape since neither of my babies seemed to like it.

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Posted By: jaylea4
Date Posted: 24 January 2010 at 9:15pm
#3 my waters broke at 8.30pm and had small bits of meconuim in it, rang m/w to tell her she said not to worry not enough of it in the waters, so stayed at hme all nite and decided to go in to get checked coz felt like i was getting closer to giving birth (even though the pains didnt feel as bad as with last 2 labours but 2-3mins apart and lasting ages) and ended up with an emergency c-section due to cord prolapse, he weighed 9pounds 6!   went on to have #4 vbac and going to do it again :)


Posted By: kellie
Date Posted: 30 January 2010 at 5:43pm
I almost had a csec, I had signed the forms and was in the OT but they decided to try forceps quickly, which worked.

I had such a horrible experience (40hours established labour, mecconium in the waters, anterior, failure to progress first and second stage, midwives getting me to push for hours when I was only 7cm dilated, baby in distress and needing blood taken from his head...the list is endless) Not to mention he was huge! 9lb 5oz
I really want to have a csec next time. I hope they will let me based on my first experience because the thought of labour terrifies me.

I know the recovery time is harder with a csec, but I didn't get any sleep literally for 4 days (while in labour and the 2 nights in the hospital. Had some really noisy women in my room, and baby kept feeding every 30mins)
and that really messed me up, I could barely function and was having auditory hallucinations. Also this thing where I would almost drift off to sleep and start having a nightmare but I was still awake, it was sort of like sleep paralysis and was terrifying. I thought I was losing my mind.

So anyway, that is my reason for having a csec next time around. Probally won't be for a while though! ;)


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Posted By: mamanee
Date Posted: 01 February 2010 at 4:52pm
Originally posted by kellie kellie wrote:


I know the recovery time is harder with a csec, but I didn't get any sleep literally for 4 days (while in labour and the 2 nights in the hospital. Had some really noisy women in my room, and baby kept feeding every 30mins)
and that really messed me up, I could barely function and was having auditory hallucinations. Also this thing where I would almost drift off to sleep and start having a nightmare but I was still awake, it was sort of like sleep paralysis and was terrifying. I thought I was losing my mind.       


I suffer from sleep paralysis occasionally and it's awful!   After having a horrendous labour which ended with an emergency c-section, I also had the lack of sleep thing which left me barely functioning.   I literally could not keep my eyes open for the first few days, and just drifting off and being woken a few seconds later by other screaming babies, nurses, beeps and things, it was pretty rough!


Posted By: MyLilSquishy
Date Posted: 26 February 2010 at 8:50pm
Elective CS (well not really as i would prefer a VB.... but not emergency so yeah lol)

breech bubba. tried homeopathy, yoga, swimming, 2x ECVs and the stubborn little mite just doesnt want to budge. if he was bum down breech then i wouldve gone with a VB, but he has one foot engaged, one foot out and his bum resting on his engaged foot (like a cossak dancer lol) he has been breech since 19 weeks..... if he happens to turn then fantastic, but at the moment i have 13 sleeps til DP and i get to meet our little man!


Posted By: mamanee
Date Posted: 27 February 2010 at 12:11am
Originally posted by Kahlia Kahlia wrote:

Elective CS (well not really as i would prefer a VB.... but not emergency so yeah lol)

breech bubba. tried homeopathy, yoga, swimming, 2x ECVs and the stubborn little mite just doesnt want to budge. if he was bum down breech then i wouldve gone with a VB, but he has one foot engaged, one foot out and his bum resting on his engaged foot (like a cossak dancer lol) he has been breech since 19 weeks..... if he happens to turn then fantastic, but at the moment i have 13 sleeps til DP and i get to meet our little man!


Not laughing at you, but it's funny how babies get into such strange positions!    My first was on his knees, with one foot curled under my pelvis and his hands were up like he was praying.

It's funny because looking back, ONLY my son could have done something like that. His character and personality totally fit with funny little antics like this!

Maybe your little boy will be a quirky one too!


Posted By: MyLilSquishy
Date Posted: 27 February 2010 at 2:50pm
lol yeah i think he was asleep during the ECVs coz his heartrate didnt change at all. (well the average on the CTG) but they couldnt even lift up his butt to try and get his foot out of the way haha.

but he also has one hand fisted up by his face like a boxer... he really is his fathers son hehe. stubborn but calm and likes to think hes funny lolz. its amazing how they can get into such strange positions!


12 sleeps! lol im excited having an exact date. its going to be harder to wait than waiting for xmas when i was 10


Posted By: girly_girl
Date Posted: 02 March 2010 at 9:26am
Mine was due to a combination of things - atypical PE, small of dates baby, and full breech. I was being closely monitored by my mw and WAU, but once my platelets started dropping, they declared an emergency c-section, and we were in theature soon afterwards, where my boy was delivered at 36weeks weighing in at 4lb 5oz. Thank goodness for the team at NICU in Waikato!!

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Posted By: Richie
Date Posted: 10 March 2010 at 8:51pm
I had to have an emergency C-Sec after 32 hours of labour and only managing to get to 6cm dilated, despite having waters artificially ruptured and being hooked up to syntocinon (sp?) drip.
Wasn't the most pleasant experience! Mainly cause Epidural ran out at 4 in the morning but the only anaesthatist on duty was busy in theatre for the next few hours so there was no one to top it up so when it was finally my turn for C-Sec, they decided to give me the full spinal block but by this stage I'd already had 5hours of full on pain! Grrrrrr stupid hospitals and their lack of staff

ETA she was 14 days overdue and turned out to be11lb 8oz so kinda glad I didn't have to push her out!!

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Posted By: Babykatnz
Date Posted: 11 March 2010 at 5:19pm
Did anyone watch the story about Josh Kronfeld and his partner, and their birth experience last night? I *think* it was on Closeup? How they described their birth story was exactly how it was for me... brought back some awful memories

SO glad I put my fears aside and had #2 in the end, she more than made up for the bad experience... it couldnt have gone any better with her, and I would do it all over again! (elective c-section at 39+6 my dates, 39+4 their dates)

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Posted By: MissAngel
Date Posted: 11 March 2010 at 6:30pm
Didnt see that, what happened?

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Posted By: Babykatnz
Date Posted: 11 March 2010 at 10:57pm
Their baby had meconium aspiration to quite a bad degree, spent time in NICU, and was only pulled out sooner due to a low heart rate. 90BPM instead of the usual 130-160BPM (They had no idea about the meconium until they pulled him out and he was green tinged, and covered in green goop, just like my eldest apparently was, I didnt see him til just over 24 hours old), DS's got down to 50 at one stage while the staff were still deliberating on what to do with us! They said on the segment that they didnt know if he was even going to survive that first night, and even tho its been just over 6 years I still remember everything I felt as clearly as if it happened yesterday

www.tvnz.co.nz/closeup and it should be there in yesterdays update with josh on the picture. 5 minute video of the segment about bubs.

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Posted By: Lillybetts
Date Posted: 17 December 2010 at 3:07pm
I had planned a natural water birth. Laboured for 41 hours, was in transistion (my contractions were about 20 seconds apart and I was full on pushing at this point), when the midwife brought the doc in and they decided I needed an emergencey CS. Was very scarey and tiring. But so worth it!

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Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 17 December 2010 at 9:27pm
Originally posted by melnel melnel wrote:

I was induced at 38 weeks with PE (moderate but had gone from mild to moderate in 24 hours so were worried about fast progression). Jake was 3/5 engaged and my cervix was softening but still very high (OB said so, MW had a lot of trouble finding it to insert the gel)

After 23 hours I had dilated to 1cm and my waters broken (baby and I were fine to proceed at this point). Contractions came out of nowhere and I went into shock but after 3hours I was 4cm and was given an epi (oh the relief) and syntocinin (still not sure why as up until that point I was dilating fine). An hour later I was 5cm so progressing text book for first birth. Suddenly Jakes heart rate started to drop and another internal showed my cervix was swelling and I was back to 4cm and Jake was possibly brow presentation. While my mw was consulting with the OB Jakes heart started to drop even further (around 60bpm during each contraction which were coming every 2 mins) and the head OB stepped in and instructed a c-section had to be done.

Interestingly, they stopped the syntocinin immediately and Jakes heart rate went back to normal.

When he was finally delivered (after 42.5 hours) he had completely disengaged and I was instructed that there was no way he was ever coming out naturally... something to do with the position he was in.

I still wonder if that syntocinin had anything to do with it....


Turns out a lot of what I was told was utter rubbish!

I did not have PE at all.... when my new mw went over my notes and BT she said that the last lot of bloods done were better than the ones done before. The OB I saw at 36 weeks effectively told me I did not need to be induced and the other OB had erred on the side of caution....

With all that in mind we happily opted to vbac... After a long latent phase (false labour my arse!) of a week, I finally went into labour, 2 hours later I called my mw and she came to check me.. completely effaced but only 2cm dilated. She said she would see me in the hospital in a few hours... less than an hour later I was at the hospital and 5cm (didnt even try for but managed to meet protocol lol). Not long after arriving I felt the urge to push, but it didnt feel "right"... checked again, still only 5cm but boy oh boy did i need to push.

After about 5 contractions of fighting that urge I asked for an epi, my mw said no (lol bless her, I said not before 7cm) and offered me gas. Which worked fine, unless I had the urge to push. An hour later she suggested pethidine to try and dull that urge. Obviously fighting that pushing urge was affecting my ability to dilate and I was not relaxing... an hour later and the pethidine hadnt worked either so we got an epi. Fetal HR had dropped but we were hopeful it was the effects of the pethidine and it would be ok.

Finally, somethign worked though I still had the mildest sensation at the end of each contraction which was weird as I couldnt feel the the contraction. Fetal HR continued to drop, was coming back up at the end of the contraction but not right up so was gradually getting slower and slower.

An hour later another check and no change, still 5cm, fetal distress and I was feeling a slight pain in my scar (even with the epi)... off to theatre we went.

Turns out my uterus is completely covered in adhesions, my bladder is no longer where it should be and is attached to my uterus and abdomen.

If I were to need a crash section, well I would loose my baby and/or my life most likely now... due to the adhesions it is impossible for them to perform a section in under 10 minutes as I would bleed out. This came from the very pro vbac OB who was very disappointed I didnt not get my vbac. I trust her judgement completely.

I have informed her that all well next time, I wont be booking an elective until 40 weeks in the hopes I go into labour naturally... I still want it is a natural as possible.

At this stage cause of sections is unknown. MW thinks the bottom of my pelvis is male shaped and thus the babies do not have the room to turn and come out and get stuck and cant descend properly. OB thinks that I have an ineffective uterus (um, I felt them contractions, they felt pretty darned effective to me!) and DH makes dodgy placentas that can not support a baby through labour (and would accoutn for the small babies).

I reckon its because hospitals scare the crap out of me and I start resisting everything around me.. we will never know!



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Posted By: Anirtak
Date Posted: 19 December 2010 at 8:12pm
Hi, I was induced at 41+2W, 6pm Fri had first lot of gel, mild contractions overnight in hospital so hardly slept, 1cm dilated.

10am Sat second application of gel, 2 cm dilated by 4pm Saturday. Waters were then broken (was on the gas by this time!) and MW decided I needed syntocinon and epidural. It took 2 hours for 4 different doctors/MW to get a line into my arm for the drip (1 failed and fluid was being pumped directly into my arm). So I was all hooked up to the drips/epi/heartrate monitor and they turned the syntocinon right up so I was having strong contractions pretty close together. Unfortunately baby didn't like this and his heartrate was unstable and his head was getting caput succedaneum. At one point the midwife was like "get on your left side RIGHT NOW!". Pretty hard when you can't move half your body! Despite the epi was still feeling the contractions really bad and was also vomiting so they had to put maxalon in my drip. At 11pm Sat was 6cm dilated and EXHAUSTED from basically no sleep for a couple of days. Head of delivery suite said she would come back at 2am Sun to check again. STILL 6cm dilated. So they decided immediately to do c-sec due to failure to progress, they stopped the syntocinon, everyone got ready and I went to theatre.

DS was born at 3.11am Sun (41+4W) 9lb 6oz, turns out he had turned posterior and face was up instead of tucked down so I guess he wasn't really going to come out naturally! But he got a 9 apgar score so very healthy!

Afterwards I bled lots and nearly needed a transfusion and had anti-convulsants for the horrible shaking! Also, bled for 10 weeks after c-sec and they thought I might have retained product. But felt my recovery wasn't too bad but maybe my mind is just blocking out all the bad stuff now :)

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Posted By: Topkat
Date Posted: 08 January 2011 at 4:09pm
I had a pro longed early stage....water broke but labour kept strating and stoping as baby facing the wrong way got to 10cm but had emergency C/S for fetal distress +uterine infection due to waters being broken to long I'm planing a VBAC this time and so far everyone is really suportive

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Posted By: lhw312
Date Posted: 10 January 2011 at 2:18pm
Hi guys, im due july 11, however I will be having a c section scheduled for around end of june or very early july when im 38 weeks.

My reason for having a c section is medical. My pelvis is too small for a baby to be delivered naturally, also I have had spinal surgery in the past, so am unable to have an epidural or spinal block, so I will be going under general anaethestic for my c section.

To be honest im not too worried about it. I've had a lot of surgery in my life, due to other medical problems, have had bone taken from my pelvis and ribs, and put into my spine and legs... so the pain is not really a worry for me. I'm sure it won't be anywhere near as bad as the other surgery i've had.

Then again, ive never had a baby pulled out of me before...


Posted By: LJsmum
Date Posted: 10 January 2011 at 7:12pm
Hi Ihw312 welcome to OBaby!

I've had 2 electives due to a small pelvis. Had a discolated left hip that was missed at birth, have had lots of surgery throughout childhood to correct and bone taken from my pelvis to rebuild my hip. So smaller pelvis. No way baby getting out that way!
Electives are fine, and not really that painful, I recommend getting up slowly the next day and walking around, i could shower e.t.c and walk normally just a little pain. Main thing don't over do it. Like i did! rest heaps and take it esay for a few weeks good luck

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Posted By: lhw312
Date Posted: 10 January 2011 at 10:08pm
^^^
Thanks for your advice.

Still got sooo long to go, so not even really thinking about it now. But I do have a docs appointment early march to discuss the birth plan, so I guess it will hit me then.

Midwife is encouraging me to express milk a couple of days before I have C section, so that even though I won't be awake, atleast baby can still have my milk via bottle (and husband).

Did anyone having trouble bonding with baby after C section (specifically, after c section with general anaethestic)?


Posted By: mcshort
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 2:54am
Yep yep, I had a semi-elective c/s for #1 as I'd been really sick and he was IUGR, and born at 33 wks, so he was whipped off to NICU minutes after he was pulled out. Then #2 was a crash caesar with general anaesthetic.

I think I found it harder to bond with #2 as I had time to prepare for the first c/s, but the 2nd was all very dramatic and the general knocked me about, as they have a tendency to do! Also he had feeding issues so it took a few weeks to establish breastfeeding successfully. However I just spent lots of time looking at him, talking to him, and eventually I felt a stronger bond start to develop.

But... it's 3am and I've been up since 1am, and he's still grizzling so it's still a work in progress

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Posted By: Babykatnz
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 9:02am
I had a lot of trouble bonding with my first (crash c-section, not quite a general as I'd already had an epi, so was just 'topped up' while being wheeled to theatre) but I didnt see him for the first 24 hours, hold him for the first 48 hours, then at 5 days old he was declared healthy and I was on my way home trying to cope with a traumatic experience as well as deal with a baby I didnt know what to do with!

#2 was an elective and my bond with her was instant, if not pre-existing during pregnancy...

19 months after #2 was born there is still a very marked difference between the bond I have between my 2.

I think as McShort said, if its planned and known ahead of time how the delivery will go then it may not hinder the bonding process at all, if bubs is happy and healthy from the get-go, then maybe you could ask that you be allowed skin-to-skin as soon as you come out of general (with someone helping to hold bubs obviously as generals leave you feeling woozy for a while!)

Expressing prior to a c-section is a great idea as it means there is some milk there for bubs right from the start, c-sections dont allow the 'natural' chain of hormones that would normally occur during a natural labour and birth to induce your milk to start being produced, so expressing prior means you can establish a small supply. I did this prior to having #2 and my midwife was really surprised to see that i had colostrum at the ready even with a c-section.

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Posted By: lhw312
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 1:17pm
Well C section is the only way I will be able to give birth, so I've had my head wrapped around it for a while.
My husband will be there for skin to skin contact straight away when baby is born, and he will give baby my milk. My midwife said as soon as im out, and awake they'll basically straight away put baby on my chest for skin to skin (with support from someone else).

From what I've heard, the whole c section takes around 45 mins (is that right??)... alot shorter than the many other surgeries i've had (ranging from 6-12 hrs), so I think i'll pull out of the general pretty fast... hopefully... but my midwife said i'll have a morphine pump, and in the past these have been known to make me very very sleepy.


Posted By: Babykatnz
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 2:02pm
pretty sure you dont have to have a morphine pump. I had one for my 1st c-section and when I had my gallbladder out last year and hated it. Morphine makes me sick and itchy and feel like I have no control over any part of myself. (At one point I realised I'd had my fork sitting in front of my mouth for a few minutes, mouth wide open, but had 'zoned out' and forgotten I was even eating!) With #2 I had a pethidine pump I believe and pain-wise it held virtually all of it at bay, but I had full control, and none of that horrid spaced out feeling!

I have no idea how long my first took, I remember being rushed off to theatre, then my next memory is lying in recovery wondering wtf just happened, and wow... my tummy is so flat! (Another reason why I always refuse morphine if there are any other alternatives! I hate memory loss!) With my 2nd I walked into theatre at 9.10am, had the epi administered (that alone took 1/2 an hour cos they kept mucking it up!) then hooked up to HR monitor on finger, BP cuff on other arm, and she was out at 9.49am, I was in recovery by 10.30am.

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Posted By: lhw312
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 3:11pm
yeah i've had a morphine pump on a few occasions as I can't have an epidural.. but i will def ask my midwife about a pethidine pump instead.

Also do you know how many people are allowed in the room when your having the c section? im hoping to have my mum, and husband. And is it ok for one of them to film, so I can see everything that happened when i wake up?


Posted By: Babykatnz
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 9:30pm
I was allowed my midwife and DP as support people (as it was an elective, my midwife wasnt allowed to be there in a midwife role, she was there simply as a support person) so I would think 2 people would be fine? Might pay to ring the hospitals maternity team and find out from them, as they'd know all the rules and regulations (Mine was at Middlemore)

I was allowed a camera at mine (one of the hospital midwives took lots of photos and a short video of them putting DD up by my head), but I'm not sure what their rules are regarding cameras when you are under a general... again, might pay to ask the maternity team, or even discuss with the OB when you see them?

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Posted By: mcshort
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 10:18pm
The timing: it takes a few minutes at first to get the epidural/spinal block in, then they wait until it takes effect (and they tip the table if it's better on one side than the other, which made me laugh!!). Once it starts, the baby is born really fast, like in 5 minutes?! It's the stitching up of the uterus, muscles and skin layers that takes a good half an hour. But with the distraction of the baby being looked over and given to you it makes the time go a lot faster.

I also had my MW and husband as 2 support people, and I have heard of a CBE student who was an extra support person being allowed in to a birth and take photos, however that depends in a huge way on the staff that are on that day. When my husband left with our son to go to NICU then my sister was allowed in, but they were strict about her not coming in until the other had gone.

Write it in your birth plan and give it to the OB when you meet with them, and also take a copy in with you in case they misplace it, you can say "oh here, I have a spare for ya". Cheeky but effective :o)

lhw312 have they said they want to do a general? It's pretty rare to have an elective with a general is all...

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Posted By: lhw312
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 10:54pm
Originally posted by mcshort mcshort wrote:



lhw312 have they said they want to do a general? It's pretty rare to have an elective with a general is all...


Yep, only way for me to give birth as i've had a spinal fusion, so cant have a spinal block or epidural.



Posted By: mcshort
Date Posted: 13 January 2011 at 10:20pm
Originally posted by lhw312 lhw312 wrote:

Originally posted by mcshort mcshort wrote:



lhw312 have they said they want to do a general? It's pretty rare to have an elective with a general is all...


Yep, only way for me to give birth as i've had a spinal fusion, so cant have a spinal block or epidural.



Ahhh that would explain it! Thanks :o)

A friend of mine has MS and if she was unable to deliver vaginally I think a general was on the cards for her too.

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Posted By: lhw312
Date Posted: 14 January 2011 at 10:57am
Yeah im honestly not too worried about it at all.. Since up until about 30 years or so ago they only did C sections with generals, as they didnt have epidurals then. I know of a few people in my family who have had it done with a general, just because it was the only way they did it back then.


Posted By: mcshort
Date Posted: 15 January 2011 at 3:37am
I was thinking about this again, they don't generally allow anyone but medical people into theatre with generals for a number of reasons, however do ask when you have your appt. My husband had skin-to-skin in recovery until I was comfortable taking our #2 myself after the general - I wasn't epecting a general so I think that affected the bonding however it is starting to deepen over time



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Posted By: tiptoes
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 8:29pm
I had an emergency c-section for failure to progress and a distressed baby. Turned out he was also posterior, had a flexed head/neck and was pretty big so just wasn't gonna come out!

Fingers crossed for a smaller baby in a better position this time

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Posted By: Carlie
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 9:18pm
I'm Due in May but they say i will probably have a c section due to my placenta lying over my cervix (plancnta Previa).. i go for a scan tomorrow and hope that it has moved up. Has anyone had this before? this is my first pregnancy and i'm quite nervous about the whole thing.


Posted By: mcshort
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 9:25pm
Originally posted by chelle chelle wrote:

I had an emergency c-section for failure to progress and a distressed baby. Turned out he was also posterior, had a flexed head/neck and was pretty big so just wasn't gonna come out!

Fingers crossed for a smaller baby in a better position this time


Have you heard about the book "Sit Up and Take Notice" by Pauline Scott? It's got some really fantastic advice on how to encourage optimal foetal positioning - I used it with both my pregnancies (but with the second he was a mover and shaker, and would change position every other day right up until 41 weeks...) it has some great ideas and straightforward advice and reasons.

And remember that scans are estimates too, if you're really keen on having a VBAC then get second opinions etc and discuss all the options thoroughly. Best of luck!!

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Posted By: Carlie
Date Posted: 17 January 2011 at 4:34pm
Its all good, had scan today and placenta has moved 'yay'

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Posted By: newme
Date Posted: 17 January 2011 at 5:13pm
Great news Carlie!
Hope the rest of your pregnancy goes smoothly


Posted By: Emmi_
Date Posted: 17 January 2011 at 5:19pm
hey mcshort, where did you find your book? any ideas on where i can find a copy?

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Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 18 January 2011 at 3:34pm
From memory, I was allowed 1 person in with me for my c-s (emergency, with an epi - Mum came in) but if I needed a general for any reason, I wasn't allowed anyone - possibly because of the nature of the surgery?? I went into theatre at about 9am, and the girls were born at 9.30am and 9.31am. I was on a morphine pump and it was bliss. I had skin to skin for 2 hours with both girls straight after I got out of recovery (I think it was about 10.30am??) even though I was not with the world in the slightest and they were both hooked up to monitors and other stuff (born at 33w4d).



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