"Safe" Takeaways/Fast Food?
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Topic: "Safe" Takeaways/Fast Food?
Posted By: AliceM
Subject: "Safe" Takeaways/Fast Food?
Date Posted: 13 February 2010 at 9:55am
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Is there such a thing? I've read about how salads are pretty much a no go zone, which would be in most burgers. And I guess that's the end to my once a fortnight falafel souvlaki!
We're meeting friends tonight for burgers (takeaway which means I could get something from somewhere else) and a movie. I'm already classed as difficult as I'm a vegetarian. I'm thinking pizza would be the best option? Freshly made and hot are the key things aren't they? Thanks for any info or opinions you guys can offer. It's only been a week since we found out I'm pregnant and wow, it's really made me think about stuff that you just take for granted when you're un-pregnant! |
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Posted By: Raspberryjam
Date Posted: 13 February 2010 at 11:43am
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Think your pretty safe with Pizza, but couldnt think of anything else
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Posted By: Jelly
Date Posted: 13 February 2010 at 11:48am
You're pretty safe with a nice hot pizza, you can even have one with camembert on it because the heat kills the bacteria in the cheese. Hot camembert doesn't seem right to me though! Pizza isn't an odd thing to want for dinner either, so your friends won't be wondering what's up. Win win  ------------- http://lilypie.com">  
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Posted By: Katep
Date Posted: 13 February 2010 at 12:34pm
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In my first pregnancy I didn;t go near takeaways except pizza, occasional subway and chips from maccas. And I agree, pizza does seem very safe as it is all cooked.
hmmm, this pregnancy is way different though, I am eating anything, infact I had a cold cheeseburger for breakfast. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Flutterby
Date Posted: 13 February 2010 at 12:40pm
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I didn't worry too much while pregnant either. I'm vegeterain as well . I had burger fuel burgers as the have a high turn over so knew the salad would be fresh. I also had falafel kebabs but only if the salad looked fresh. ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: bext1
Date Posted: 13 February 2010 at 1:33pm
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yeah i had a kebab the other day and that was YUM!!
I guess though for me, this is number four so I'm not too worried. I even had cold ham at xmas and have deli meats. ------------- 
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Posted By: FreeSpirit
Date Posted: 13 February 2010 at 3:48pm
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Just look for an A grade health rating! If a resturant has that, you're fairly safe to eat what you want fresh off the menu. ------------- http://www.babysfirstsite.com"> 
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 13 February 2010 at 4:56pm
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for me i avoided all except fish and chips and cheese pizza..:) boring but not worth the risk for me. ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: 0mrs0ana0
Date Posted: 14 February 2010 at 10:03am
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I'm curious about Subway?
I was thinking no to all the deli meats, but even the "hot" meats don't seem to be all that hot and the dressings don't seem to be very chilled (or clean sometimes!) I read something on the Ministry of Health site to stick with Fish & Chips! Well I don't wont to have F&C's every time we want to eat out! I'm fat enough as it is w/out eating F&C's during my PG! ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Renderbaby
Date Posted: 14 February 2010 at 10:31am
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Hiya,
With regards to places like Burger fuel you can ask them to specifically wash the salad on the burgers for you. Just mention that you are pregnant or have an allergy. I am I am 8 weeks 6 days pregnant and have had it once. The guy behind the counter was only too happy to help once he understood the risks. xx Amanda |
Posted By: Richie
Date Posted: 14 February 2010 at 11:43am
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My MW told me that anything deepfried (ie Fish n Chips) is generally the safest as the heat of the oil is hot enough to kill pretty much any sort of nasty. So fair to say I've eaten heaps of FnC's!! I do eat Maccas on the odd occasion, only cheeseburgers or filet of fish tho cause they don't have salad in them. I've stayed away from anything chicken, even chicken pizza.Also haven't gone near Subway as my MW told me that is one of the worst places to eat while pregnant due to everything being of the deli variety. Can't wait till bubs is born so I can get my hands into a nice big smoked chicken sub tho! I'm hanging out for one!! -------------  
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Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 14 February 2010 at 1:20pm
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Lol , I ate lots of subway , ate so much while pregnant that im over it now .
But man , this thread is making me hungry ------------- 
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Posted By: ItchyFeet
Date Posted: 14 February 2010 at 4:09pm
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I'm a nut about sticking to the MOH guidelines, but I've discovered a whole load of takeaway type food I can eat (vegetarian options only)
Hot chips Hot wedges Nachos without the sour cream, salsa or guacamole (bit dry, but still) Jacket potato from Wendys (the sour cream is sealed so I feel fine about that) Asian noodle bar noodles without the meat - I know it's from a deli type counter, but it's from somewhere I used to go regularly and they cook them especially hot. Japanese tempura veges without sauce - worked out I ask them to cook only these plates of veges for me and it's delicious (I do miss sushi though) Pizza (have only tried Hell's) vegetarian option, but I wouldn't have the ones with feta etc. Basically hawaiian without the ham is good. Have eaten lots of McD's fries and apple pies. Jesters pies - check which are the fresh ones and they will also extra heat them for you (A grade food rating nationwide) ETA I always ask for everything to be extra well cooked and will send it back if it isn't steaming hot when I get it. I won't touch anything from Subway, burgers, milkshakes or icecreams e.g. Wendys or softserves, pies or sausage rolls, most items in a cafe deli counter but order off the menu (I eat loads of scrambled eggs on toast, cooked extra well) kebabs, feta, rice or most Asian style takeaways. Needless to say, a kebab on rice is my most looked forward to meal! ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Kalimirella
Date Posted: 14 February 2010 at 4:10pm
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Lol, I'm a subway fan too, I just get toasted and check for fresh gloves and rinsed salads. I used to work in Subway and they are generally clean and tidy in my experience. At the start of my pregnancy I also quite happily ate deli salads but I worked at said deli and knew how they were all prepared. ------------- Kiara is 3 and Teagan is 2, now we're expecting our long awaited 3rd! http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: MyLilSquishy
Date Posted: 14 February 2010 at 5:36pm
| yeah ive been eating subway. not as much as i would like too, but have had it a couple of times. and i eat deli meats (normally salami which is prolly worse than anything else lol) but the one thing i HAVE stayed away from is soft serve ice cream.... DP knows that as soon as bubs is born and we go home (hoping to be home within a few hours... unless i give birth at something silly like 3am) then we are stopping at either McDs or BK for some soft serve ice cream. mmmmmm. |
Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 14 February 2010 at 6:33pm
depends who you ask really...although it is all fresh the meat has been sitting there a long time sometimes and you cant guarentee the veges are washed.. ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
0mrs0ana0 wrote:Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 14 February 2010 at 6:35pm
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its one of those personal things .. people tend to be anal about it(like me:) ) or not at all or somewhere in the middle...i went by the guidelines given in the food safety book in the pregnancy pack thing. ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: WestiesGirl
Date Posted: 14 February 2010 at 8:26pm
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I ate subway after the first trimester and also ate Maccas, kebabs, indian and thai. When we ordered Subway I always ordered the chicken fillet and asked them to cook it a little longer. With the other takeaways I was more selective with what I ordered.
Gosh, this is making me hungry now  ------------- Our Angel July 08 Gone but not forgotten
And to complete our family, our princess has arrived 
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Posted By: MindyW
Date Posted: 15 February 2010 at 11:09am
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I have BK or maccas and try to just have the burgers without the salads in it, and just have extra fruit etc when I get home ------------- My Beautiful Little Emily http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: flakesitchyfeet
Date Posted: 15 February 2010 at 11:37am
| I've had maccas and subway. I ask for fresh salads and for it to be toasted at the end of the making, not just after the meat, and at maccas I asked for it to be freshly made. |
Posted By: MindyW
Date Posted: 15 February 2010 at 11:55am
Isnt all maccas made to order now? ------------- My Beautiful Little Emily http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Raspberryjam
Date Posted: 15 February 2010 at 12:06pm
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I think if its a regular place you go to and you know they are clean and the food is fresh then all good - I wouldnt touch chicken from anywhere - when I was pregnant with milla i bit into a raw burger from burger king - has put me off for life let alone BK or KFC while preggers- luckily i didnt get sick but wouldnt chance it again
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Posted By: flakesitchyfeet
Date Posted: 15 February 2010 at 8:55pm
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I think so MindyW but it doesn't hurt to just make sure
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 15 February 2010 at 10:07pm
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I ate what I wanted my last pregnancy, except chicken from KFC etc. ------------- |
Posted By: 0mrs0ana0
Date Posted: 16 February 2010 at 1:45pm
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oh god! we had KFC the other night...I thought it was reasonably safe because they have strict standards on keeping the food hot enough??? ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: M.i.s.s.y
Date Posted: 16 February 2010 at 3:53pm
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im craving kfc rite now.....mmmm yum! -------------    
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Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 16 February 2010 at 4:29pm
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I'd be guessing that most KFC is totally fine, 0mrs0ana0. At the same time, chicken is risky, and that's why lots of people would rather not eat it unless they'd prepared it or knew how it had been prepared. I don't eat KFC (didn't really beforehand, so no hassle there!), but if I did I'd zap it in the microwave just to be sure.
I eat chicken pizza if it's hot. I eat (hot) McD's burgers without salad and dressing etc. It appears that the types of bugs that are most likely to hurt babies can be killed by heating the life out of them, so I'll eat most piping hot things. I have eaten Subway, because earlier, I thought it was the dressings etc in deli salads that could carry listeria. I didn't realise fresh vege that wasn't properly washed was another bad carrier - who'd ever have thought?! Obviously, I didn't pick up anything and kill Bubs, and I bet the risks are slim, but I don't now JIC. -------------   
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Posted By: Hunnybunny
Date Posted: 16 February 2010 at 4:33pm
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It's not just the food not being hot enough that has a risk, with KFC especially, its the fact the food has been sitting there hot for a while.. So sometimes, cooking it a bit extra won't help.
And often its not sitting there at a hot enough temperature which means it'll help breed bacteria, and heating it extra won't help... So IMO, I'd stay away from that stuff, unless you went in to the counter, and explained you were pregnant and asked them to cook a hot batch of chicken, then you can see them cooking it and know its freshly done! |
Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 16 February 2010 at 4:44pm
I'm not sure I know about any bugs that breed up when something's held at a high heat for long periods? (Provided it is a really high heat, of course). I mean, a chicken casserole could easily cook for two hours, which would be longer than KFC would be sitting round being heated, and that's not an issue? I'm admittedly not an expert, though... but that's a new one on me. Totally agree, food sitting round at a medium temp that's not hot enough is a sitter for breeding bugs. Nothing they'd prefer better. I'm guessing that's why most people prefer to avoid KFC, because I doubt the heated racks really are that hot. At the same time, most bugs that did breed when the chicken was sitting warm should be killed by a good proper re-heat? Listeria would be, as would salmonella, campylobacter would as far as I'm aware, and I'm pretty sure about toxoplasma* as well... I know there are bugs that heat doesn't have a huge effect on, but they don't seem to keep popping up on the list of 'avoid while pregnant' ones. (Still, I'd avoid chicken that had been sitting at room temp too long myself, even after a re-heat, it's just kind of a reflex reaction!) Gah, sorry for the long post. This stuff kind of interests me, I need another hobby
(*ETA that sitting warm shouldn't introduce this one anyway) -------------
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Posted By: flakesitchyfeet
Date Posted: 16 February 2010 at 4:52pm
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Yep, a proper reheat is sweet, so my old midwife told me
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Posted By: WRXnKids
Date Posted: 16 February 2010 at 6:16pm
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Only places and foods i have avoided are ones that ive had food poisoning from before like Burger King in Invers other than that i havent avoided much. I wont get deli salads from the supermarket if they look like they have been sitting ages and any deli meat i will only have in a toastie but i lived on Subway toasted spicy italian subs with josh and KFC and KFC has been big on my cravings this time.
To be honest i feel so crook most of the time when im preg so if i feel like something i will eat it otherwise i end up feeling worse or dont eat at all. I also think im more likely to give myself food poisoning than eating from a takeout joint or resturant that has health restrictions in place. Just my opinions tho and they certainly arent shared with everyone. Oh and you will find that soft cheese's are fine as in NZ they have to be pasturised which kills the bugs they just recommend eating them the day you open them if having them cold. Store brought dressings like mayo are also ok because they are pasturised. Blue cheese's are out because of the mould. -------------   
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Posted By: AliceM
Date Posted: 16 February 2010 at 8:19pm
Awesome information, thanks everyone. In the end, went for pizza minus the camembert but then I could only eat 2 pieces before I felt full  Although they were 2 damn tasty pieces!
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Posted By: 0mrs0ana0
Date Posted: 16 February 2010 at 8:49pm
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Has anyone else noticed that they get fuller quicker?
I'm a big eater (& a big girl  ) but the last 2 weeks I can't eat much, I'm eating more regularly, rather than big meals, but when I have meals I'm eating about 1/2 what I used to...
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Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 17 February 2010 at 6:47am
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Yep, totally. I've felt that way from quite early on, which makes me wonder why... surely that early Bubs couldn't have been getting in the road of my stomach? But I agree, my appetite dissapeared. -------------
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Posted By: JoJames
Date Posted: 17 February 2010 at 8:44am
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I think its just a pregnancy thing, I've lost 10kg in both pregnancy's just from the fact I can't eat so much any more. Very depressing when you go to Lone Star and can hardly eat the meal because you drank too much before the meal came out.
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Posted By: Hunnybunny
Date Posted: 17 February 2010 at 10:48am
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Yeah I was meaning the food sitting there too long at the wrong temperature, cos I know when I've gotten chicken at KFC especially it hasn't exactly been hot
I didn't think that re-heating it would be enough, but I could be wrong, to me, I wouldn't risk it, simply cos if its been sitting there for too long, whats there to say it already hasn't gone up and down in temperature? I've seen them dump cooked chicken into the deep fryers again to get it back to piping hot
WRXandjosh, I avoid burger king too, although I've never been sick from it. I also avoid copper kettle as I got food poisoning off chicken burger there (so did my bridesmaid) we were both careful as we split the burger and both agreed the chicken was fine, turns out not so fine
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Posted By: Pregwithnumber1
Date Posted: 17 February 2010 at 5:10pm
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The only takeaways I've had is fish and chips because I fugured the boiling hot oil would destroy any nasties - but I guess you can never be too sure.
The last time I ever had McDonalds was 11 years ago when I had a salad burger after school (I'm vego) and then got the WORST food poisoning I've ever had in my life. I had to get a special injection to stop me vomiting from A&E. It was then that I found out unwashed veges can carry nasties like E Coli, Samonella and Listeria. Nasty!! For that reason I only have F&C - no pre-made stuff or burgers or anyting like that. I'm pretty sure Pizza is ok though, becuase those veges are cooked and there is no meat on a vege pizza. Makes you think twice though aye! ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 17 February 2010 at 6:18pm
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Yea, I didn't initially realise that - and I am quite interested in food safety too (from time to time, I do a bit of cooking for large crowds with our church - I live in fear I'll give the whole lot food poisoning, so try to be really safe). I always took care to wash veges etc, of course, but thought that was more about pesticides and stuff. I was kind of surprised to hear they breed up stuff like listeria!
ETA Ew about the re-fried KFC, Hunnybunny!!! That's just gross. -------------
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Posted By: MinaNZ
Date Posted: 18 February 2010 at 10:16am
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Wow all this info is really interesting. So far i've stayed away from any takeaway that has chicken in it (lucky i'm not a big fan of KFC).
The takeaways i have had (BK, Mccas, Chinese) have either not sat right in my stomach or they've made me bloat. I seem to be going off anything that's too fatty or greasy. So what's left to try pizza?? ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 18 February 2010 at 11:38am
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I dont like KFC anyways, always makes me feel sick as dog, but when I was pregnant, I didnt eat any chicken that I hadnt prepared myself, chicken that isnt cooked properly can be nasty nasty and Id rather not risk that while pregnant.
But I ate anything else lol ------------- |