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Topic: July mummys
Posted By: my2angels
Subject: July mummys
Date Posted: 24 July 2006 at 4:50pm
Im going to class myself as a july mummy even though Addison was born in June (only by a day) I was just reading through the names and thought how simialar they are we have
Addison (Addy)
Amelia
Ashlee
Erin
Ella
Caitlin
Any I have missed? And all girls, how funny.
So how are all you July mummys doing? Im loving having a wee baby again and we have settled into a routine quickly which is handy. It amazes me how much I love my children everytime I look at them. Right have to go at 'catch the bear' that has apparently gotten into our house and is eating Kobes banana.



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Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 24 July 2006 at 6:00pm
Hi ! Thanks for starting this thread for us Robyn, I had it in the back of my mind to do it, but then nap time came up. I do think it's quite amazing and neat how all the July babies have been girls, and the names are all gorgeous too. I don't know if I can really say we are into a routine yet, but Erin is feeding roughly four hourly, which I'm finding reasonable to manage, and am also finding it easier to sleep when she sleeps. Am secretly hoping she starts sleeping through the night sooner rather than later, but know that I can't really push it, and will just have to keep up with the cat naps. It's been great having her daddy around to help out, he doesn't go back to work until the 8th of August. I'm sort of thinking I will go back to work at least part time at this stage, although again it's not fixed in stone - I haven't got around to bugging Barnardos about why they never sent me the registration forms that they said they would. Ah well, I guess that will be my next project ! That's really it for now though, dinner time for us soon and then Erin will be 'due' for another feed - oh ! that reminds me, I think she's going through the growth spurt my midwife warned me about - not that she's been extra grizzly or anything (yet), but fed for an whole extra half an hour this afternoon. Her 'feeds' usually take just inside an hour if you include the nappy change in between. I am also contemplating whether it would be worth trying to change her to being changed, then fed, then put back to bed without a break in the middle, but will wait and see. Right, enough of my rambling - hope to hear from some of you other July mums again soon

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Jacquie - Mama to Erin, 13.07.06 - Chief Cat Chaser & Marmite Sammie Eater



Love many, trust few, harm none. ~Anon~


Posted By: baalamb
Date Posted: 24 July 2006 at 7:09pm
Hiya, great idea to start this up!

Ashlee and I are doing great. Was lovely to have a week with hubby, but he's back at work this week so I'm kind of stressing myself out a bit because when he was at home, he'd settle her and be able to put her down so easily. Takes me just a little bit longer!

I can't believe how strong she is already. She initially loved being wrapped up with her hands and arms tight but recently has been wriggling and getting them free so she can have a good suck on them. She's yet to learn how to keep her hands there though so it's a bit of a hit and miss game for her!

We too are feeding basically 4 hourly (although like you Jax, we've hit a growth spurt I think too!) during the day, then having her last feed about 10ish, then letting her sleep through the night until she wakes herself which is usually around 2, sometimes later.

Ashlee gets rather overwhelmed with too many visitors and not enough sleep during the day which can be rather tiring on us both! But we're managing that and I'm much happier with her having a grizzle during the day than in the middle of the night hehe. Can't complain otherwise!

Looking forward to hearing from the other July mummies!


Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 24 July 2006 at 7:41pm
We are into 4 hourly feeding to, 2,6 & 10 which is great plus I know how much she is getting with bottle. She doesnt seem to wake up much yet, has one time during the day where she might be awake for a couple of hours but thats it, she even sleeps if someone comes over and picks her up. We tend to give her half her bottle, change bum then rest of bottle and bed. Sometimes though we have change her first to wake her up!Hubby went back to work after a couple of weeks but its been pretty flexible so far which is great. Im going back to work part time only 8 hours a week once the paid parental leave is over but thats only cos hubby will be able to look after Addy so she wont go into care yet.


Posted By: shelleybean
Date Posted: 25 July 2006 at 10:33am
Oh it's so nice to hear all about the new babies!!!! I so can't wait for our wee precious to arrive (not long to go now). Thanks guys for all your input....Take Care and rest up while you can.



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Posted By: 11111
Date Posted: 25 July 2006 at 12:21pm
baalamb good the hear thing's are going well it is rather sucky when the hubby goes back to work i bet your's found it rather hard to go back. see I have to keep sneaking into the July babies now to keep updated.

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Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 25 July 2006 at 2:01pm
Well, Erin slept through the night last night but mummy didn't - kept waking up thinking she'd be hungry and waiting for her to start crying ! Eventually shut off again and dozed back off. However, during the day today has been completely topsy turvy, she is definitely having a growth spurt - feeding for longer and more often, not settling etc. Our midwife did warn us but... oy... tired mummy AND daddy. Going to have a shower and try to nap now, she may or may not be hungry again in a couple of hours *sigh*

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Jacquie - Mama to Erin, 13.07.06 - Chief Cat Chaser & Marmite Sammie Eater



Love many, trust few, harm none. ~Anon~


Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 25 July 2006 at 2:13pm
oh it's so fun huh.There is something that was suggested to me that might help with increasing supply and helping bubs not feed for so long... if that's any help

i mean you can usually hear and feel when you let down.. cos baby start guzzling etc... but once they get to the point where they are sucking sucking sucking and really only swallowing every 6 or 7 sucks them they've drained that side...and you swap....
it was suggested to me to watch for signs that the milk flow has slowed, then switch sides and do the same.... then could change her bottom once she thought she'd had enough, give her a play, start with the side i'd finished with and swap back to the other side again once it was all drained.... worked really well and i soon learnt to know when she had finished each side and wasn't getting anything any more... cos Ayja was like al eech - she'd just suck all day even if she wasn't getting much.

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Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 25 July 2006 at 3:16pm
We are doing well here, Ella is a big baby and shows it with her eating lol, we had our first really good night where i only had to get up once to feed and change her last night it was bliss hehe

Her umbilical cord came off today, thank god for that coz man did it stink! lol

Shes started the pooing faces LOL its hilarious! I managed to catch one on my phone camera i was larfing so hard hehe


Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 25 July 2006 at 9:00pm
oh what good babies during the night we all have! Addy is pretty good too unless she is having wind issues. She has started the grunting pooing noises and faces too, sooo funny. Im sure she has started smiling but not sure if thats possible at her age or if its still wind. I cant believe she is 4 weeks this thursday, its gone so fast. Jess now you will have to watch her belly button doesnt get infected, quite common apparently its all pretty gross really


Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 26 July 2006 at 9:10pm
I'm sure she's old enough to start smiling!!
Han started smiling at 10 days... tried to tell my midwife who didn't believe me until I put her next to the washing pile and she started gurgling and smiling away. (Didn't smile at a person until much later... but she's always been a weird one!)

We need pics to see the smile! (any excuse to cluck over a little baby )


Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 26 July 2006 at 9:23pm
Had my midwife come over today and Addison is now 9lb 7oz so has gained a whole pound in 4 weeks. I cant believe its been 4 weeks already, the time has gone sooo fast.
I will try to take some smiling photos, she looks so cute when she does but I never have the camera handy!


Posted By: baalamb
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 11:21am
Yeah it does go way too fast! Our lil precious is 2 weeks today. I had a bit of a moment last night where I was looking at her thinking 'sheez, I'll never get this moment again' which is all a bit sad really haha! She's just growing so quickly.

I've put a couple of new photos on my http://gary2kirsten.weddingannouncer.com/photoalbums-10521.html - website . I've just noticed too that most of them are of her frowning!! Must get some 'pretty' ones haha


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 3:42pm
Robyn - Yeh the midwife said that, but its all healing really well

Shes just got really dry skin from being overcooked so im oiling her up and using moisterising baby massage mousse to discovered she loves to have her nappy off to kick around cept i dont leave it off to long otherwise she pees or poos and catches me off guard lol


Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 4:38pm
Aw cute! I love the frown!!!! - it's ike she's staring at you saying "Whaaat Mum??" *in the really grumpy teenage voice*


Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 4:38pm
Addy has really dry skin too, it looks like its peeling on her hands and feet and just dry everywhere else. She hates having her clothes off though. we are trying to get her to settle herself back to sleep but not with the bottle because she always falls asleep drinking.


Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 4:40pm
cute wee photos of Ashlee, she is beautiful! Just out of curiosity are your babies in 0000 or 000 clothes?


Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 6:19pm
A bit of both, depends on the make !

And Miss Erin is now feeding 2 hourly. *sigh*

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Jacquie - Mama to Erin, 13.07.06 - Chief Cat Chaser & Marmite Sammie Eater



Love many, trust few, harm none. ~Anon~


Posted By: baalamb
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 6:53pm
Ashlee's in 0000 for the moment (she's got short legs like her mummy ) but that won't last much longer, and it really does all depend on the brand.

She had a grizzly afternoon, but I shouldn't complain because she generally is a really good wee girl. She makes a complete liar out of me though because I'll send hubby a message saying 'Just about had enough of her crying' and the minute he turns up, she pipes down and doesn't make a single noise!

Jax, is Erin over her growth spurt or is it still going?


Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 8:47pm
I didn't even get to finish that post properly before she started wailing again LOL Has been feeding on and off since 4pm, had to balance my dinner on one side of the chair and her on the other just to get something to eat - she's finally gone down now for a little bit, although I'm not holding my breath. Just feeling a bit edgy since I didn't get a chance for an afternoon nap, she was too awake ! Hopefully tonight will be another good sleep for her, and that will be the end of the growth spurt - but at the same time I wonder if she's just going to be more awake during the day from now on? Also not sure whether to wake her again late tonight for a "last" feed, or just to zonk out myself and then get up for what is bound to be a feed at a more ungodly hour... meh. I think poor Roland finds it frustrating too, I REALLY hope she settles a bit more soon. We've got visitors tomorrow, well, the midwife is coming over for Erin's 2 week checkup and my mum is dropping some stuff off - thankfully not staying too long (not that I don't love my mum, but she knows what it's like, plus has a student to teach tomorrow morning as well).

*takes a deep breath and then exhales slowly*

Tomorrow is a new day, and we'll be fine !


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Jacquie - Mama to Erin, 13.07.06 - Chief Cat Chaser & Marmite Sammie Eater



Love many, trust few, harm none. ~Anon~


Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 9:08pm
Hmm, perhaps I spoke too soon? I was going to try and "nap" for a couple of hours, then Roland was going to wake me around 11:30 and I would give her a late feed - but I can hear her crying again now, and we only put her down half an hour ago. Letting her cry for a bit, since she doesn't sound terribly upset, and hoping that if we have to get her up and end up doing another feed now - that she'll go down after and THEN have a long sleep.

Moo moo moo.

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Jacquie - Mama to Erin, 13.07.06 - Chief Cat Chaser & Marmite Sammie Eater



Love many, trust few, harm none. ~Anon~


Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 9:15pm
Big hugs, Jax!

Don't forget to look after yourself too, okay? Plenty of fluids and rest when you can. Talk to your midwife too.

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Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys


Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 9:44pm
is Erin really hungry or just snacking each feed? Maybe she is waking cos she is missing you, my midwife said that will start happen and everytime you put them down if they are asleep they will realise they arent cuddled in and wake up crying. Thats why we are trying to work on her settling herself in bed with a dummy but she hasnt got the hang of keeping it in, Kobe was never big on the dummy either but we will keep trying.


Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 10:35pm
She's feeding pretty well each feed, although a couple of times I have taken her off when I think she hasn't latched properly. Some of the time today I reckon you'd be right Robyn, she'd be waking up and just wanting cuddles, she'd settle for a bit (but not sleep) if her dad or I picked her up for a while. For me the key factor in how I feel is sleep, plus copious amounts of Rescue Remedy and cups of tea - and speaking of sleep, I am finally going to go to bed. She's just fed for about an hour all up, so fingers crossed.

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Jacquie - Mama to Erin, 13.07.06 - Chief Cat Chaser & Marmite Sammie Eater



Love many, trust few, harm none. ~Anon~


Posted By: sleepy
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 9:03am
Hi
I'm going to join this thread too - even though my baby Nerissa (another girl!) was born on the 29th of June.

My wee girl is a pretty good sleeper at nights and goes down between 11 - 11.30pm and wakes at 7.00ish - which makes for a very happy Mum and Dad. I am trying to follow the Contended Little Baby programme which is a great guide but because Nerissa doesn't wake at night she doesn't always settle for her daytime sleeps - although I do get one decent 2.5hr sleep out of her in the day.

I can totally understand what you went through last night Jax - the very same thing happened to me at the same age that Erin is at! The thing that got to me was that (like you) Nerissa would settle for half an hour or so then cry (when we just thought she had gone off to sleep) - when we picked her up she was as happy as Larry! I came to the conclusion she wanted cuddles - so I had to let her cry a bit but she did settle herself. I also think that this coincided with a growth spur.

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Posted By: baalamb
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 9:45am
How did your night go, Jax?

I tend to agree with the cuddles thing. My specialist told me that newborn babies only tend to cry for 2 reasons - they're hungry, or they want to be held. He pointed out that toddlers run around with full nappies and it doesn't bother them. That's really helped my sanity! I know that she can't simply be hungry if I've just fed her so she must want a cuddle. Occassionally I reckon she cries if she's got a pain in her tummy from wind or something or if she's really overtired, but usually its just for a feed or cuddle. I don't feed her within 3 hours now since she's past her growth spurt.

It's really hard to just let them grizzle, but I give Ashlee 10 mins in her bed to grizzle, and if she's really wound up, I'll go in and give her a cuddle and put her back down but generally, when it's almost *almost* time to run in to her after that 10 mins, she stops!


Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 10:43am
She slept right through ! Mind you, I woke up again at 2am thinking she was going to start crying for another feed - and even though she didn't, it took me until about 4:30am to fall asleep again! Then up at 7am to start the day, and she's had two feeds already, with no signs of falling asleep at the moment (typing this one handed with her in my other arm). Haven't heard from my midwife yet, who is due to visit today, and might have some ideas for settling her better. Found yesterday a little stressful, but managed, and am just hoping today is a little easier.

Am hoping to have her daycare stuff sorted by mid next week, looking at going with Barnardos KidStart, but we'll see - this wouldn't be until the end of September when my maternity leave finishes.

Also trying not to think about how I will do things once hubby goes back to work, he is off until August 8th, and it has been SO good having him around - but again, I'm sure I'll manage !

Lastly, it's not that I don't want to keep up breastfeeding ans almost feel embarrassed saying so - but I am finding it really tiring / draining and not really enjoyable. Plus with the aforementioned going back to work, it will be nigh on impossible to express - so the thought of slowly switching her over to formula has crossed my mind. Not 100% sure how to go about it, but ultimately happy mum = happy bub, right? *sigh*

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Jacquie - Mama to Erin, 13.07.06 - Chief Cat Chaser & Marmite Sammie Eater



Love many, trust few, harm none. ~Anon~


Posted By: baalamb
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 12:55pm
Eek, how were your boobs after she slept through?! Ashlee slept for 6 hours on her 2nd night at home and I was almost praying she'd wake up soon because my boobs were just about killing me they were so huge!

I too was stressed and really worried about how I'd cope when hubby went back to work (he only had a week off) but you do manage because you just have to. You'll probably surprise yourself at how you cope on your own during the day. I did!

Absolutely a happy mum = a happy bub. And they can totally pick up on your emotions too.


Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 1:02pm
Jax dont feel embarassed about thinking of switching to formula, you have to what is best for you and at least you have given it a go, more than I can say for myself although I did give it a go with kobe so know its not for me. Are you going back to work full time or part time? Im always scared if I let her cry to much at night it will wake up Kobe but I do need to let her settle herself more.


Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 1:03pm
Sleepy your wee girl was born the same day as Addison


Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 1:10pm
LOL My boobs were ok, a little sore, but one was a lot fuller than the other so I knew which one to feed from without having to really think about it ! My midwife said if my breasts get TOO sore and full, and she has been sleeping or resting for a reasonable time, to wake her up and feed her - or at least to express some off, rather than risk mastitis.

With work, I'd be going back part time at first 15 hours a week, and not sure for how long.

I guess I feel the most stressed when she's unsettled, even though I know we'll be fine and can do this (and love her to bits !!). And I'm also glad I have a place to vent and stuff, you ladies are lifesavers.

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Jacquie - Mama to Erin, 13.07.06 - Chief Cat Chaser & Marmite Sammie Eater



Love many, trust few, harm none. ~Anon~


Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 2:20pm
While I'm not against bottle feeding at all and only have limited understanding of what you are going through with breast feeding... I really didn't notice that it was "ok" until Han was around 6 weeks.
Really depends whether you are willing to wait that long to assess if it still isn't doing it for ya.
But otherwise, once again, apply my parenting motto!


Posted By: meow
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 2:35pm
I agree with Nikki, Ella was a feeding machine until 6/8 weeks.. and I've just realised she had mild colic in that time too which meant she screamed/frenzy fed for about 4 hours each evening.. it does get easier and once you've both mastered it, it becomes a breeze.. I've had masitis 4 times and it is horrible, but I managed to get rid of it quickly.. probably should have been prescribed antibiotics the first time to avoid it coming back.

So if you decide to continue with the breastfeeding I will support you and will answer any q's you have, if I can remember that far back! But in saying that, if you decide to bottlle feed, then that's fine too!

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Posted By: baalamb
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 3:36pm
Yeah I'm the same with being stressed when Ashlee's unsettled. Had a bit of a weep today when trying to settle her. Just coz I felt so helpless! But yes, I love her to bits even when she is screaming. I also love 5 o clock and knowing that hubby will be walking in the door at any moment to help out!


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 3:45pm
Dont let yourself feel bad for thinking of formula feeding, at least you got the chance to breastfeed, i wanted to so badly that when i didnt have colostrum and the midwives were really trying to get ella latched on i was in tears coz i didnt know what to do. But now that i have made the decision and everyone (midwives) knows im bottle feeding i feel 100% better. (plus it means i can nudge hubby to go and feed her if im zonked lol)

Im having issues with ella waking at about 4am and thinking its playtime she was wide awake this morning and didnt get back to bed till 6am. Midwife has said feed her, dont talk to her at night while feeding her, change her nappy, burp her and put her straight back to bed. (easier said than done lol)

I hope things start getting better for you jax.


Posted By: james
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 4:04pm
oh jax dont feel guilty if bottle feeding is want you want to do then thats fine i went thur the guilts when i started bittle feeding james and still do now sometimes but if its easer for u and dad then bubs wont care were her food comes from only that she getting someso chin up my dear we are all hear for you and any worry you may have

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Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 4:09pm
I totally understand re the bfing thing - I was sooo ready to sto pafter a week, but set myself a little goal to reassess at 6 weeks. Things were going ok but not great at 6 weeks, so I set another goal of 12 weeks, and you know what 12 weeks went by and I had totally forgotten about it, and we are still going now. Actually now that I think about it, Hannah was having one formula bottle a day back then cos I was knackered and that worked well, but after a while we didnt need it anymore. I am not in any way saying bottle feeding is bad, cos it isnt, but it really does get easier... Even more important tho is a happy mum Hope things get better for you soon Jax

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Hannah 22/10/05
Greer 11/02/08


Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 4:12pm
Yeah, it's not going to happen right away, but it's just something I'm considering... gotta do my research first ! I'm just aware that they can pick up on when we're tired out and stressed, and while it's perfectly manageable at the moment and I'm going to give it some more time, I guess I am checking out all my options.

She's feeding really well, but I guess because she *is* sleeping more during the night she is compensating during the day - and she burps well enough too (not to mention the small mountain of dirty nappies).

Had my midwife visit today and feeling a lot better overall after talking to her about everything, and it will be a lot closer to when I go back to work (end September) before I look at actually putting her on formula.

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Jacquie - Mama to Erin, 13.07.06 - Chief Cat Chaser & Marmite Sammie Eater



Love many, trust few, harm none. ~Anon~


Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 4:13pm
Oh ! And I managed to get a nap late this morning too, which probably helps, sleep of my own is a critical factor LOL (I know that sounds terribly obvious...)

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Jacquie - Mama to Erin, 13.07.06 - Chief Cat Chaser & Marmite Sammie Eater



Love many, trust few, harm none. ~Anon~


Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 6:19pm
As the others have said, don't feel bad. I had to put Andrew on a bottle at 3 weeks as he was a very hungry baby and drained both sides of me and still wanted more. My MW was the one who helped me with the bottle feeding. However Plunket just looked down on me for topping my baby up with a bottle. I couldn't believe it when our plunket nurse told me that Andrew was just greedy and should get what he is given from the breast, I didn't know what to say when she said that. Lets just say I didn't see her again after that. Jess I so hope you get a nice plunket nurse who doesn't say anything about you fully bottle feeding Ella. It's so not your fault the fact you have to bottle feed Ella and no breast feeding.

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Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 6:36pm
ive found the key to the whole bottle feeding judgement thing is to be firm and not ashamed you are bottle feeding. this time round things have been so different because i am more positive and know im doing whats right for me so havent had any bad responses but even if i did i can handle it now.


Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 11:13pm
I remember feeling the exact same way Jax and I even posted on here about it and followed aimees advice for setting goals. Maybe you could try expressing a bit and have hubby give her a bottle so you can sleep and sometimes hubby can be better at settling bubs cos they can't smell the milk.


Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 8:02pm
Erin appears to be a bit more settled in general, had a good visit from the midwife on Friday, was nice just to be able to have a good talk about how things have been going with someone (other than Roland!). Now we're pretty sure that she's just decided to be more awake during the day, and it's more a matter of us adjusting to it than her LOL The only really worrisome event was tonight, when she got really fussy at the breast and kept crying and coming off - it might have been wind even though we burped her - then thankfully she settled in the end and is now asleep (I think!).

And just randomly, I think I might actually end up being able to grow my hair this time, I still can't quite pull it all back into one pony tail, but it's getting heaps longer - this is something I've been meaning to do for AGES and just never had the patience for.

Last but not least, I know this is a bit of a touchy subject, but how are you other ladies going weight wise - if you feel comfortable talking about it that is? I made a thread about appetite stuff in general, but I've noticed the weight is coming off reasonably well, I reckon I gained about 16kgs all up when I was pregnant and have lost 11kgs so far. Not that this gets me back into my nice pre-preggy clothes, or gets rid of the jelly belly and stretch marks

I also appear to have become an expert in daytime TV shows, plus have learned more on the 'mideast conflict' from BBC World than I ever thought possible !

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Jacquie - Mama to Erin, 13.07.06 - Chief Cat Chaser & Marmite Sammie Eater



Love many, trust few, harm none. ~Anon~


Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 8:21pm
Just one thing i can think of with Erin Jax, when she cries and comes off the breast - does she sometimes sound like she is choaking? I had the prob after the first couple of growth spurts that Ayja had... that she had increased milk supply so much that when i let down it was too much too fast and she would not be able to drink fast enough.... i always wondered why she would choose that point to start fussing.. just as she started getting the good stuff. It took a fair amount of perserverence and having a towel on hand constantly until it all settled down and she could handle it.

Just an idea

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Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja



Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 8:27pm
i was weighed three days before having her and have lost 12kgs since then and think Im just about back to pre baby weight. Im not 100% sure what that was though but close to where Im at now and am able to wear my pre baby clothes but my tummy is really gross and floppy still. When I was at the hospital a couple of weeks ago they weighed me and I was like yippee (cos I had lost 10kg since having her at that stage) and the nurse goes 'thats good is it' really disgusted like. I was a bit annoyed cos I know Im over weight so I just said yeah thats good for me cos Ive lost 10kg and managed not to add stupid b@#tch!


Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 9:13pm
Janine - I wouldn't say choking, it was more like she just pushes her mouth of the nipple, then would scrunch up her face and cry... then settle for a few seconds, latch back on and drink for a bit, then start up again ! Like I said though, it didn't last too long and she eventually settled back down again (whew). Mind you, I have noticed her making 'gulping' sounds so you're probably right about it having something to do with my milk supply - hopefully that little tanty was a one off though.

Robyn - what a nasty nurse ! I would have had a hard time not saying something back to her. I'm probably about 4kgs away from pre-baby weight, but just before I found out I was pregnant I was trying to get back to a normal weight, so eventually I'd like to lose a total of about 10kgs more. Exercise will help, but I'm going to go easy on myself with that for a while yet, and just start with regular walks etc.

Oh ! And almost forgot to mention (again, slightly embarassing) but we had our first "Ouch!" today - mummy was a bit clumsy and didn't look properly at what she was doing when I was going to go put her into her bouncer, and donked her poor little head on the toy bar - should have taken the darn thing out first. I know babies are durable, and it wasn't a hard knock at all, but I felt so bad because she seemed pretty upset LOL

Ah well, thankfully we all got over it in the end !

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Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 10:08pm
Man 10kgs, wish I had that to lose but apparently to get back to my healthy weight I need to lose at least 25kgs. Im suppose to be morbidly obese at the moment so the hospital tells me but Im not like those 250kg woman you see on tv or anything! But Im setting myself small goals, first one is to lose another 5kg so fingers crossed it happens before I lose motivation.

Addy gags all the time with her bottles but I know they arent to fast because other times she is fine, must be when she is super hungry and being a wee piggy or something.

Dont feel bad Jax, there will be many more ouches. I have had to cut my nails cos I kept scratching Addy.


Posted By: sleepy
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 11:44pm
I have had heaps of ouch moments with Nerissa - the worst has when I brushed her head with my engagment ring - she survived with no marks but I felt terrible!

With the breastfeeding I am now expressing twice a day and making Nerissas 10.30pm feed a bottle of expressed milk. I have found this great as she is a sleepy feeder and this feed used to take forever and if she didn't get enough she would wake in the night. I know exactly how much she has had and it is much quicker. It also means if I am really tired DH can do this feed.

Weight wise I put on 9 kgs in my pregnancy and lost 5 when I had Nerissa so have only 4kgs to go am back in pre-pregnancy clothes but only just! I have noticed I am eating heaps more - probably due to the baking etc people have brought me but that is all gone now so hoping to get back into good eating habits and losing the last 4 kgs!

What a cow of a nurse - can't believe she would say that - some people!!



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Posted By: Sarah Beth
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 8:41am
just a lurker here... My2angels, I am in the same position as you and need to lose a good 25kg to get to my healthy weight. As someone who, has tried all sorts of diets, I will say, Good for you for losing the 10kg, I know how hard it can be (under normal circumstances with no baby!). Keep going and eventually you will get there!

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Posted By: baalamb
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 11:36am
We had a bit of a rough evening last night Our first one since being home! We're thinking Ashlee had a bit of a tummy ache and it took everything in the book to try. She won't take a dummy and initially wouldn't even take some cooled boiled water from a bottle. Man, it was stressful! Certainly took it's toll on both mum and dad. Eventually, we got her settled after some more water, some more gripe water, and some more booby but man, it was hard!

Re the weight thing - I was on Weight Watchers at the time I found out I was preggy (actually had a meeting the very day I took THAT test!) so I know exactly how much I weighed from the word go. I ended up losing around 6-7 kgs initially, not from morning sickness (I didn't have any really bad) but just from a general loss of appetite and cravings for good food like fruit etc! I put that on when I reached about 12 weeks and at the end of my pregnancy, I added 9 kgs to my pre-baby weight. I wouldn't have a clue what I weigh at the moment, but I seem to be dropping it by the day and can definitely notice it in my clothes. I'm still very swollen from the c-section and that's going down slowly too. Can't wait to have the strength again to do some tightening exercises for that area! Even walking around the mall at the moment makes me rather sore.


Posted By: BabyCam
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 11:45am
Hi Guys,
I had Cameron on the 26th of June - which I think is close enough to join this thread. I was on this website a lot before I had him as ErinC - but something happened and I couldn't log on for ages, but Im back now - thank goodness. I've really missed it!.
Jax, I am really not enjoying breastfeeding. I have to feed via nipple shield as he has never latched properly. He will latch now, but gets really frustrated and comes off and starts crying, so I feel a bit lazy but I just cant be bothered trying anymore.   He is perfectly happy with the nipple shield, but the midwife has been trying to get me to stop. Also I'm pretty sure Im doing it wrong because I cant get comfortable and by the end of the day my neck and back hurt, oh and Im still using a pillow, it just seems really uncomfortable and awkward with out it.

He has also gone through stages of crying after a few minutes and squirming. I thought it was wind, due to something I had eaten. I had coleslaw the other day and for the next few days he did that when he fed, so thats what I've put it down too. I have discovered that he doesn't like it when I eat chocolate or tomatoes as well.

Cameron started sleeping really well and has always slept for between 6 and 8 hours at night, but in the last few days its been 4 or 5 hours. The worst thing is that he is not settling after I feed him, its awful going back to bed and then hearing him start to cry!

Although all that was completly forgotten yesterday when he did his first proper smile. I nearly cried and then felt really stupid.


Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 12:09pm
I used nipple sheilds st the start too babycam and i had people telling me to stop. A karitane nurse came around and helped me and said people have bf for a year using nipple sheilds so don't worry about it if it makes things easier for you. If you are worried about your milk supple just express a little bit in the shower each day. I also used pillows and found it really hard without them until Jack got bigger.


Posted By: sleepy
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 12:11pm

Baby Cam - Totally know what you are saying re the nipple shield - Nerissa wouldn't latch either and my midwife recommended nipple shields - I had a replacement m/w for a few weeks while mine was on holiday and she kept trying to get me to latch her - however it was frustrating for both her and I and she was more than happy on the nipple shield so I left her on it! She now latches most of the time but when she doesn;t after a couple of tries or my nipples are sore on goes the nipple shield! My original midwife said that it was perfectly ok to continue with the nipple shield as she had to with her babies. I'm still using pillow too. My comment is to do what suits you for as long as you want to!



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Posted By: sleepy
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 12:11pm
Just out of curiosity how long do you ladies leave your baby to cry if they don't settle straight away???

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 2:16pm
Sleepy - I leave Ella for 10 mins but only if her cries are interrupted by little whimpers, thats how i know shes only playing me if its full on crying i get her up.

I so hope i get a nice plunket nurse aswell, its not like they can say anything to me not producing breast milk, its a hereditary thing and ill be getting rather pissy if they are rude about it thats for sure.

Weight wise, i have no idea lol i know my tummy is getting smaller and i have one pair of non maternity pants that i fit lol i havent weighed myself im a little scared to hehe
Personally having issues with my own little upset tummy lately, spent a couple of hours last night throwing up, and now i feel a little funky, i think im a little run down and may have a tummy bug GAH typical seeing cory has a cold aswell lol Ellas the only good one here haha

Having sleep issues with Ella she just wont go down at night unless shes in the same room as us, am contemplating putting the portacot in our room and letting her sleep like that, im not much of a stirrer with her, i sleep with the monitor next to my bed so am used to it now, i only wake when shes crying.

Well thats me for now am going to go and get some dishes done while the little madam is sleeping.

Take care girls


Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 4:17pm
Thanks Sarah Beth, it is hard aye, thats why I want to keep going while i have the motivation and it can only get better as the weather warms up.

Having never really done the breastfeeding thing Im curious why are nipple sheilds not good for long term use. I would have thought they would support you if it means you breast feed for longer.



Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 4:34pm
Its because they can reduce your milk supply because theres not the same stimulation and can make bubs refuse breast when u want to give it up the same way a bottle can, although they now have a wee hole for babys nose so they can smell u.


Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 5:51pm
Had a reasonably good day today, went up north to Snells Beach to visit grandpa (on DH's side), Erin likes being in the car and pretty much slept all the way there and back.

However, that's about the only times she's really 'slept' today, and has been feeding really frequently again (thought maybe it had settled back to four hourly, wrong!). Mind you, the days she has fed heaps during the daytime she has then slept *right* through the night without waking.

Eh, babies ! So confusing LOL I don't mind getting up in the night too much, but it's nice to get sleep too.

Haven't had a nap today, which is probably why this entry is so rambly.

Oooh, here's something I just remembered - has anyone else experienced that kind of 'dopey' feeling when bub is on the breast and having a feed? I reckon it's from the oxytocin, but makes me a bit drowsy LOL Although I try not to get my hopes up that *I* will get to sleep !

With nipple shields, I tried one in hospital when we were initially having a bit of trouble latching, but don't need it now even though I still have the shield somewhere in the nursery.

I am going to try and enjoy this week as much as possible as it is the last week I have with DH still at home, and then he goes back to work I know I'll manage, and that he needs to go back at some point, but it's so great having him around !

Last question, sort of LOL At least for this post - have you all turned in the registration of birth certificates for your bubs? I'm posting mine tomorrow, the only reason I haven't been able to get it out sooner is that I had to get my mum to find my actual certificate of NZ citizenship (I am a citizen by descent, mum is kiwi, I was born in Canada)... so that I could give them the rego number. We're ordering just the one copy for now.

Right, Erin is up again, might need ANOTHER feed... so off I go !

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Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 7:58pm
Yep I already have Addisons birth certificate, it only took about a week to get back which was cool, now I jsut have to remember to send it into the IRD so I can get her an IRD number and for the family assistance.

Addy has had a real sleepy day today so I have a feeling we are going to be up all night. Its funny though cos you guys say how your bubs are awake all day, I jsut couldnt imagine that. Addy might be awake for a couple of hour then sleep but the next time round she will be back to sleep straight away. What do you to do entertain them or do they just want to lie on you?

Jax definately enjoy your time with hubby, I soo miss having my hubby home and kept saying we should move to the middle of now where so we dont need any money and can both stay home or even just work part time! I think I also miss adult company


Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 9:51pm
Ah, now there is the million dollar question, how DO you "entertain" a two and a half week old baby? LOL Well, I don't know if I'm really the best person to answer - all we've got up our sleeves are cuddles with either mummy or daddy (on the couch or wherever), lying in her bouncer, or tummy time on a mat on the floor or bed !

Anyway, she initially was still sleeping lots during the day, but not as much now - although again, it's not like we are into a strict routine or anything, more like a vague schedule

She FINALLY went down around 6:30pm, and I'm going to wake her again soonish, that way her feeding and changing will *hopefully* be over with by 11:30pm at the latest, and then mummy and daddy can go to bed - I am really looking forward to it right now (as mentioned earlier, I haven't had the chance to take a nap today, ugh).

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Posted By: emeldee
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 11:01pm
How to entertain a newborn? Cats walking by are entertainment...
I used to put Andrew (and Sean) on a mat on the floor and have music playing with a mobile above - something bright to look at. Andrew had a set of yellow and black bees above his bassinet that he would enjoy watching. When the weather is warmer, you can take them outside in a pram and park it under a tree - babies usually get a kick out of watching leaves moving about. In general, really newbies don't need all that much stimulation, pretty much everything is new to them.
Breastfeeding wise - your midwife should be able to help you by recommending the right formula and talking about starting up feeding. Eventhough you aren't planning on starting the bottle feeding just yet, you may as well use her expertise in the six weeks that you have her services.
Re the bottle feeding - I have a coffee group that was organised through the local plunket of mums with kiddies born close to Andrew's birthday. All but one of the six regulars started breastfeeding exclusively. By three months, all but one was supplementing with bottles for various reasons that included fussy eating, supply issues, returning to work, personal choice. There can be a lot of pressure on women to breastfeed, however remember that for whatever reason you are not, if that is the case, then that is valid. If you want support with breastfeeding to give it a go for longer and you are finding things tough, talk to Plunket about support at a local family centre or with a lactation consultant.
(Oh, and I crashed this topic because I'M a July baby )

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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 8:20am
I used to put the girls down under their palygym on a blanket.. although alot of the time i think it must have been pretty boring after a while cos they always fell asleep under there - i like to think that it was because it was stimulating their brain so much they just got exhausted, lol

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 8:58am
woohoo just wanted to say i LOVE fisher price aquarium ella fell asleep to it everytime last night! best investment ever!

ew gross she just barfed on me lol


Posted By: baalamb
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 10:32am
We're pretty lucky with Ashlee as well in the fact that she goes straight back down usually after a feed and change. Not much awake time at all! Although in saying that, I feel awful because she's in her bassinet in her room, wide awake just looking around. I had her sat up on the couch with her tri pillow to look around but she grizzled so thought she was tired and put her in her bed, but she's just looking around the room, listening to her lullaby CD, and not making a single noise. But she's happy and content so best leave her be, I guess! Can't complain if she's not grizzling.

Lol at the barf!!! Ashlee 'christened' her nana before she christened me with a spew


Posted By: emeldee
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 10:42am
Janine, You just reminded me (baby brain has arrived for the long haul)...Andrew's favourite thing when he was a tiny (rather than a toddle-terror) was his playgym Turtle. It had interesting flaps on the base for tummy time, and had dangling star fish, something else and a mirror on the top for when he was on his back. It lasted right up until he could reach the mirror and started pulling it down but 'turtle time' was excellent.

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Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 11:06am
Just thought I'd mention quickly that the Baby Einstein 'Lullaby' CD is absolute MAGIC, I think it helps a lot in settling her. We had a good night last night, down from 11-6ish, then after our feed / change / feed she was down again until 9:30 am or so. So mummy is feeling pretty good, contemplating going on an adventure to the post office, but it depends on whether or not miss munchkin is still peckish (she is making sort of hungry faces, either that or daddy's whiskers tickle too much!).

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Love many, trust few, harm none. ~Anon~


Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 12:41pm
Well, miss munchkin had her top up feed, and then mummy went to get some milk and visit the post office - turns out I haven't forgotten how to drive or interact with salespeople in shops after all (Haven't done either since she was born, until today.) She had a bit of a grizzle at Daddy while I was out apparently, but he let her just cry it out for a bit while he cuddled her, and now she is out like a light Yay Daddy !



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Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 1:57pm
Do any of you have bubs sleeping out in say the lounge with you during the day or do you put them into thier rooms? We have Addison in the lounge so she gets used to noise, she can sleep through a noisey game of whaca mole and her cousins racing round like nutters screaming at the top of thier lungs. Then we just wheel her into the bedroom at night.

she had a good night, went down around 10pm, woke at 2am for her feed but then missed the 6am on and didnt wake up till 8am. Now we just need to lose the 2am feed.
We have our first plunket visit tomorrow, quite looking forward to it.


Posted By: baalamb
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 2:12pm
Makes ya feel a whole lot more human huh Jax?! I walked around to get our lotto tickets the other day and it was lovely really, not having to drag a whole half a house around with me!

I've occasionally dragged the bassinet out into the lounge, but not often. We've got a quiet house anyway, it's just hubby, baby and I so it doesn't get a chance to get overly noisy! I can bash around in the kitchen and it doesn't wake her though and we've got a small flat.

We took Ashlee to a relatives place to watch the rugby a couple of weekends back and in a roomful of excited adults screaming at the rather loud TV, she didn't make a single peep! I'm still a lil bit cautious about using the vacuum cleaner while she's sleeping (well, that's my excuse anyway )


Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 2:27pm
If the girls fell asleep under their playgym i used to leave them there, cover them up with a blanket and they'd be fine... otherwise i'd sleep them in their bedrom. basically i would leave them where they fell asleep mostly, Ayja did the same a few weeks ago, she didn't want an afternoon sleep, so i decided since we were going out that night i'd give them late afternoon bath, gave ayja hers, got her dressed. left her in the lounge to play, and went and put Paris in the bath... thought about 5 mins later, "hang on that's really quiet, what is she doing?" came up to the lounge and she was asleep on the floor. so i left her there, was only another 30 mins til dad was due to be home and we'd go out, so thought at least a cat nap would be good to stop her being a whinger. lol.

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 2:28pm
My friend had her baby out in the lounge with her when he was first born (way back in September last year) for the first few weeks. He got used to all sorts of noises that way. Now he sleeps in the same room as his older sister and sleeps through her tantrums when she doesn't want to go to sleep.

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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 2:30pm
we used to worried about it being the other way round - we used to go get ayja alot at first when she would make any noise just in case she woke Paris - till we realised someone could drive a freight train past Paris's bedroom window and she wouldn't wake up!

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Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 4:36pm
It's also just Erin, hubby and myself at home, and if Erin falls asleep we pop her into her bassinette and leave the door cracked - but continue going about our normal business. She doesn't seem to be bothered by what noise we *do* make though. Have discovered that if she fusses at the breast (ie cries and wont feed) that it's definitely wind, had another mini tanty today, and I *finally* managed to burp her then she settled - whew (dad seems to be better at burping her somehow).

Feeling more confident within myself at the moment too, which is nice, although it does seem to just build slowly day by day. The difficulty now though is that I'm starting to dread when hubby goes back to work, not that I won't cope, but more for the lack of company and wonderful affection / cups of tea etc. *sigh* Ah well, someone's got to pay the bills !

Tomorrow is going to be interesting, they're restructuring my department at work, and with some of the changes going on they need to have meetings with the staff at my level (as you do)... so I found out today I have to go over the material as well, they are apparently going to courier the info pack out to me then go over it on the phone, I'm hoping it won't take as long as some of the other meetings have in the past ! The other option was to go in and go over the new info or whatever it is with the HR lady, but I didn't think that would be very practical.

Okay, enough rambling for now !

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 7:41pm
Well today i went and got my hair done YAY i feel human again! Miss Ella attended and i swear was cuddled to death lol, went and visited another friend who has a baby to whos 10 days younger than Ella.

I let Ella fall asleep on her bean bag in the lounge shes so used to loud sounds, she was demanding cuddles all day today which i dont mind

Got a hamper today (another one) from Corys work i have the biggest supply of wipes and barrier cream now lol ahh well they will all get used Dammit there is wine in the basket to but it is red wine and i hate red wine


Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 8:56pm
Do you think its possible to get the baby blues your suppose to get at around 4 day at 5 weeks instead? i dont know why but Im feeling so down the last couple of days. Things have been pretty stressful as we are building a house and had some problems with the bank which I have been left to sort out plus Kobe is really sick and has been grizzly and grumpy and just wanting cuddles. Im sure its not anything to do with Addy cos she is great, sleeps well, doesnt cry and Im not feeling stressed at having two kids if you know what I mean. Getting my period back so soon didnt help either. Oh well I guess it will pass, sorry for being depressing.


Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 9:02pm
It's okay, that's what we're here for Robyn ! I'm not sure what to say, except that if you feel it's getting overwhelming - ring someone, anyone ! That's what things like Lifeline are for, unless you're comfortable enough with just venting at us. Lots of

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Posted By: james
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 7:50am
oh hunny if it gets to bad ring yiur doc and get some help as pnd can hit at anytime if not keep venting here thats what we are here for

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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 8:17am
Was just about to say that - even if you think it's mild PND can develop anytime in the first year.. so it's worth checking out.. or even having a talk to you plunket nurse about it. That said, getting your period back could cause a big surge of interesting hormones and you probably already have a decent amount of the "new mummy" hormones still hanging around even though you aren't b/feeding. so add it all in together with the stress and probable sleep deprivation and sick kids and it's a bit of a nasty cocktail.

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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 8:21am
For me, I don't think I ever got baby blues but did get "life blues", where suddenly all this crap happens and instead of enjoying your new bub, you have to deal with that. I had the drama of getting our stuff from japan through customs, trying to organise Lewis' flights, paying for credit cards etc, when Taine was born and while the kids were angels - life got me down a lot. which led me to yell at Jake. then feel guilty. what a lovely cycle. Is this kinda what you mean Robyn?


Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 8:25am
thanks ladies, i dont think its deression as such, i just feel flat and blah if that makes sense.
i think addy is getting kobes bugs cos she had a bad night and was breathing pretty hard and only wanted to sleep upright on me. on the upside looks like we are going to have another nice day outside


Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 9:21am
Well, we had a REALLY unsettled evening, but... *drumroll* THEN Erin slept right through from about 11:15pm to 7am this morning !! Had a big feed this morning of course when I got her up, and is grizzling a bit now, but hopefully it will be a while before the next one or having to 'top up'.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 9:30am
Im so jealous lol i get about 4 hours at a time at the moment lol




Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 9:36am
If it helps, this only happens every couple of days, and is usually preceded by frenzied feeding (ie: just about hourly), lots of awake time, and lots of grizzling ! Plus I'm still not quite out of waking up every couple of hours and wondering if she is hungry or going to start crying.

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Love many, trust few, harm none. ~Anon~


Posted By: BabyCam
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 10:55am
Hi
baalamb - Cameron just lies in his bed looking around too. I feel guilty because I think he might be bored, but I really dont want to get him up, so we have hung a mobile to give him something to look at. He seems to be awake most of the morning at the moment. Im wondering whether to have him up and entertained or leave him in bed to cry, it seems to be developing into a bit of a pattern. Does anyone know at what age they start to stay up for longer - everyone says they should only be up for 60mins but Cameron seems to be able to stay awake for way longer? He was also sleeping 6 or 7 hours at night, but its moved back to 4 or 5 now.

Thanks for the advise re: nipple sheilds - I will keep going with the nipple shields because it seems to be the only option. He latches well but just doesn't suck properly. Yesterday he went without the nipple shields for about 5mins but then started crying because his suck was weak and he wasnt getting any milk.

Erin


Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 10:18pm
We had a good day, but another unsettled evening, she woke around 4:15pm for a good feed but didn't want to go to sleep after that - at least not properly. She dozed a bit, but then from about 8:30 onwards was crying on and off, gave her some gripe water after a bit of a booby top up, and then finally Super Dad solved the problem - took her and wrapped her up, cuddled her, plus I think she just knocked herself out with all the crying. I was thinking about that whole not letting them be awake for more than an hour at a time thing, but would have really struggled with that today. I reckon it's not always applicable ! So Erin fell asleep about 9:30pm, and then we debated whether or not to wake her up again for a "last" feed, as I'm not sure that she'd sleep through if we just let her go from 9:30pm (earlier than she normally does). I realise that even if she has a good feed once woken around 10:30pm and then goes back down that she might decide to wake during the night anyway, but oh well. I also realise I'm rambling.

I guess I've had a lot to think about today, received some interesting information about the next step of the restructuring that's going on at work, and find out in two weeks or so whether or not I will still have a job to go back to. Can't really go into any more detail than that though, since nothing is confirmed yet, and they are just starting the process of 'consulting' all the staff who might be affected by this particular stage of things.

Right, 15 mins to go before I turn into the Magic Mommy Milk Machine again and then hopefully some proper zzz's !

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Jacquie - Mama to Erin, 13.07.06 - Chief Cat Chaser & Marmite Sammie Eater



Love many, trust few, harm none. ~Anon~


Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 02 August 2006 at 11:35am
How did your night go Jax? We had a much better one, Addison went down about half ten then woke again at 4am for a quick bottle and burp then down again till her brother woke her at 7am so cant complain. she is a bit unsettled at the moment though so think its going to be a long day which is a bugger because its to cold to go out and I have my whole family coming for tea tonight so need to do some housework (I will find the motavation to do it soon honest)


Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 02 August 2006 at 12:11pm
We had an awesome night, she slept from 11pm through til I woke her up at 8am ! She had a good and proper feed after that, and is just about to wake up again. I'll see how tonight goes, and then my midwife is due to visit at the end of the week, so might bring it up with her and see if she has some advice for helping our evenings be a bit less unsettled but still have Erin sleeping through the night. The closest I get to housework is occasionally making sure that the kitchen doesn't look like a tip ! Our carpet is in desperate need of a vacuum though *sigh* Someday

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Jacquie - Mama to Erin, 13.07.06 - Chief Cat Chaser & Marmite Sammie Eater



Love many, trust few, harm none. ~Anon~


Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 02 August 2006 at 12:14pm
Ive noticed I get really impatient and short with Kobe if I dont have the house reasonably tidy, at least have the kitchen useable which is odd considering i am not a house proud person and normally dont care.


Posted By: BabyCam
Date Posted: 02 August 2006 at 3:44pm
I agree that being awake for 60mins is not always possible - especially when he has his bath etc - and sometimes he can feed for ages.   

I had another wakeful night - he only slept for 3 hrs at a time last night then woke at 5.30 and didnt go back to sleep till 9.30 and then it was only for half an hour, so I put him in the car and went shopping.   Which has turned out to be a brilliant idea. I bought a dummy and I just tried it out, it was in his mouth for 2mins and he was asleep. yay!!!!


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 02 August 2006 at 3:56pm
Ahh im in the process of battling a baby that is hard to get to sleep but once is asleep is a gem! and a cat that has started to bring in lots of "presents" for attention lol last night it was a weta again and she doesnt stop meowing till you praise her for her present, she then goes off and eats it! and today she caught a bird and brought it inside it was still alive LOL got such a fright!

Ahhh have the funniest video clip of ella having gripe water, she hates it and screws her face up its so funny!


Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 02 August 2006 at 4:14pm
Have you ever tasted gripe water? I took a tiny little drop of it just to see what I was inflicting on my poor angel, and it's disgusting ! LOL So, I'd be screwing my face up too if I was force fed that stuff... that said, it is kinda cute to watch

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Jacquie - Mama to Erin, 13.07.06 - Chief Cat Chaser & Marmite Sammie Eater



Love many, trust few, harm none. ~Anon~


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 02 August 2006 at 4:45pm
Hehe the smell is enough to put me off lol

Heres the video sorry about the poor quality but it was only using the digital camera and the light was really poor!

http://s29.photobucket.com/albums/c298/Jesscoburn/Ella/?action=view¤t=Ellavsgripewater.flv&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch1

(Sorry this is the only way the link would work )


Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 02 August 2006 at 9:10pm
awww how cute.


Posted By: Two Blondinis
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 10:39am
Awww that's sooo cute! Caitlin doesn't seem to mind it (we're giving it to her using a dropper) but that said our lil' chunky monkey will drink just about anything! She has already gone past her birth weight!

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 11:11am
hehe i loved the tugging on the bib as if to say EWWW GET IT AWAY!!! lololol

Ella is being a wench and has only gained 75gms since birth weight but is definately drinking more now so the next weigh should be interesting! Midwife said they can plateau and then gain heaps.


Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 11:18am
Erin had lost about 100gms from her birth weight when she was weighed just before we left hospital, but by our first proper home visit from the midwife at 8 days, she had gained it back and then some - by another 120gms I think. We have another m/w visit today, but don't know if she will be weighed, they might not do that until her 6 week checkup? Last night was pretty average, she didn't grizzle as much in the evening, went down around 11:15pm, but woke again at 4:45am. She had another feed just before 10am, and has just gone back down - so time for mommy to have a shower so I don't stink when the m/w arrives

And I know I've said this before but, I am SO going to miss hubby when he's back at work from next week - what a sook I am !!

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Jacquie - Mama to Erin, 13.07.06 - Chief Cat Chaser & Marmite Sammie Eater



Love many, trust few, harm none. ~Anon~


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 11:32am
Totally know what you mean Jax, Cory went back this week and the house seems so much larger and complicated without him here to help me hehe but each day gets easier as you get used to it. Always look forward to seeing him after work to


Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 2:01pm
the midwife should weigh her every visit. today was my last midife appt, was strange to think i wont see her again


Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 2:06pm
My midwife was saying that they only weigh her if there is a real reason to, ie: suspect that baby isn't gaining enough or something. I'm not sure how many home visits from my m/w I have left after this, I will ask her when I see her today. Speaking of which, she txt'd me back this morning to say she'd probably drop by 'early afternoon'... it's 2pm ish and I haven't heard anything further ! It's just that Erin is due for a feed soon, and I'm hoping she'll just go back down afterwards... so hopefully my m/w hasn't got too caught up or is still planning to come 'early' afternoon. *sigh*

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Jacquie - Mama to Erin, 13.07.06 - Chief Cat Chaser & Marmite Sammie Eater



Love many, trust few, harm none. ~Anon~


Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 2:11pm
mine used to do the same and it made it so hard to make any plans.



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