Food intolerances where to start?
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Topic: Food intolerances where to start?
Posted By: caliandjack
Subject: Food intolerances where to start?
Date Posted: 23 July 2011 at 8:18pm
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DD has sensitive skin and has developed a couple of patches of rough dry skin on her scalp and a little bit of ezcema.
I've been given a list of the main food intolerances from a nutritionist. Where do I start in working out what bothers her and what doesn't? ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">   [/url] Angel June 2012 |
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Posted By: 2crazykids
Date Posted: 23 July 2011 at 8:26pm
| I think pick one to cut out and see if there is an improvement. Sometimes they have more than one, but for example my boy has heaps, I first cut out milk and saw an improvement but not 100%, so then I cut out the next one, Soy, and say a huge improvement. They are 2 main staples. Then from there it got a lot easier to tell what bothered him i.e. pink marshmellows not everyday but when he had them he flared up (food colouring) or 1 dried apricot he flared up straight away (preservative) |
Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 23 July 2011 at 8:28pm
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Being 9 months old - She hasn't had soy yet and I've stopped giving her dairy as I found shop bought yoghurt gave her a sore tummy, she was ok on the eziyo one. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> [/url] Angel June 2012 |
Posted By: 2crazykids
Date Posted: 23 July 2011 at 8:30pm
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It's a wonder though that the Nutritionist didn't plan it with you i.e. ours tells us what to try next i.e. Olivani then Pea's etc, then after that try such and such food. They should be really guiding you a lot more, it's such a hard road if they're not guiding you, It was for us, I'm no food expert, I'm just a beginner!
P.s keep a daily food diary , BIG BIG HELP! |
Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 23 July 2011 at 8:36pm
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It was over the counter I think I need to make an appointment with a naturopath and get some more guidance.
I do feel a bit lost as its not something instant with her more she gets a sore tummy later on. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> [/url] Angel June 2012 |
Posted By: 2crazykids
Date Posted: 23 July 2011 at 8:44pm
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Ok I see. I got a referral from my GP to a Peadatritian, and the Pead refererred me to the Nutritionist which we see each of them every 3 months. (Through the public system, although we had to wait 3 months for the appt to come through the first time) But they tested him for allergies etc and have both been amazing at putting plans in action for us re: skin care regimines and meal planning.
Plus you will be amazed at how much soy she has actually had - go look at your bread, crackers, biscuits, they all say "contains soy", margerine, sausages, just about everything you can think of contains soy...marmite...list goes on. My boy can't have any of it! He is a bit easier to tell if he reacts as he gets a full on rash pretty quickly. |
Posted By: 2crazykids
Date Posted: 23 July 2011 at 8:45pm
| Is she bf? or formula? |
Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 23 July 2011 at 8:55pm
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She's bf - she was very windy as a newborn and I adjusted my diet then and things improved. I'll have a chat to my GP this week. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> [/url] Angel June 2012 |
Posted By: AandCsmum
Date Posted: 23 July 2011 at 9:13pm
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Hey Fleur, I'm not surprised that you've asked this, I did wonder when you said a while ago that she had sensitive skin.
I would start very simply take out dairy both in your diet as well as in her diet. Do that for a few weeks as it takes up to 6 weeks for dairy to clear from both your & her system. I would see a dietician, they are worth their weight in gold. Agree that you need to do a food diary for both you & C. Also agree, be very wary of how much soy is in things. Soy Lecithin (322) should be ok but things like HVP are nasty. I also find that Coopers cradle cap quantity is dependant on if he's reacted to stuff. ------------- Kel http://lilypie.com"> 
A = 01.02.04 & C = 16.01.09 & G = 30.03.12 |
Posted By: AandCsmum
Date Posted: 23 July 2011 at 9:17pm
Oh & half the time GP's don't know  ------------- Kel http://lilypie.com">
A = 01.02.04 & C = 16.01.09 & G = 30.03.12 |
Posted By: snugglebug
Date Posted: 23 July 2011 at 10:07pm
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Yeah Id have to say, bypass the GP an go to the paed, it took months to figure out my son's dairy intolerance I was told he was just being a baby by the GP then in the end she just said I dont really know, go to a paediatrician. Although I think that all they will tell you anyway first off is to do the elimination of different things- dairy, soy, wheat etc and see how you go so you might as well try that first maybe? ------------- Me 28, DH 29 DS born 20 Nov 2010 (4 years old) #2 due October 7 http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 24 July 2011 at 9:56am
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The GP hasn't been very helpful so far, she had a nasty rash on her a couple of weeks ago and they couldn't tell me what it was or what to do about it.
Dairy does seem to be a trigger for her - unbenown to me my Dad had given her some of the froth off his coffee and it gave her almost instant dioherra. I don't have dairy a lot myself only on my cereal for breakfast. A food diary sounds like a good idea. Catherine hadn't had craddle cap since she was little, she has a couple of patches this week - trying to work out whats caused it. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> [/url] Angel June 2012 |
Posted By: AandCsmum
Date Posted: 24 July 2011 at 12:00pm
If you want something nicer for your cereal than rice milk  get oat milk, it's quite a mild sweet taste.
Green kiwifruit can be a high allergin as well. The cradle cap could have come on cause of that dairy froth. Try keeping her totally dairy free and see how you go. ------------- Kel http://lilypie.com">
A = 01.02.04 & C = 16.01.09 & G = 30.03.12 |
Posted By: kabe
Date Posted: 24 July 2011 at 2:33pm
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Just skim read the responses, so apologies if someone has already suggested this! I'd be inclined to get her tested for allergies in the first instance with either a RAST (bld test) or a skin prick test. That way you're not eliminating food unnecessarily from both your diet and hers. Eczema on the face, then diarrhoea were the first sign that my daughter had food allergies. Your GP or a paediatrician can give you a form to get the tests done.
I personally wouldn't muck around with trying to eliminate things, I'd just go straight to proper testing. Then the nutritionist can make dietary suggestions when you know what you're dealing with. Good luck! ------------- http://alterna-tickers.com"> 
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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 24 July 2011 at 3:17pm
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thanks Kabe - she's been on solids for 3 months now and for the most part I've avoided dairy anyway - she also had a patch of eczema on her leg long before she started on solids.
I'm aware that eczema is closely linked with asthma and there is a family history of it on her Dads side. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> [/url] Angel June 2012 |
Posted By: AandCsmum
Date Posted: 24 July 2011 at 4:57pm
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Kabe, testing is useful but in the case of intolerance, even severe intolerance, they don't show anything up.
Definitely get skin pricks done, but don't think that it's going to give you any answers, it might but just as easily it might not. ------------- Kel http://lilypie.com">
A = 01.02.04 & C = 16.01.09 & G = 30.03.12 |
Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 24 July 2011 at 5:09pm
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I don't think she has allergies as such, more a sensitivity to certain things - as the naturopath said at our mothers group its more a build up of exposure that causes intolerance rather than a single incident, which I think is why its harder to pin point what bothers her.
Keeping a food diary is a good idea. I'll look at dairy she doesn't have much so it will be reasonably easy to eliminate. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> [/url] Angel June 2012 |
Posted By: AandCsmum
Date Posted: 24 July 2011 at 5:27pm
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Look at it in all the foods you eat as well?
Have a look at the links on this page http://www.sswahs.nsw.gov.au/rpa/allergy/resources/foodintol/friendlyfood.cfm - RPAH Allergy unit page 3 shows how an intolerance works. ------------- Kel http://lilypie.com">
A = 01.02.04 & C = 16.01.09 & G = 30.03.12 |
Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 24 July 2011 at 5:30pm
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This is the list of Common Food Intolerances I've been given - Dairy, Cane Sugar, Yeast, Nightshade (potato, tomato, eggplant and capsicum, Gluten, Apples, Citrus and Peanuts.
Catherine doesn't have peanuts or any of the nightshade family to start with, she's had mandarins seemed to like them. Apples is in everything to do with baby food. I don't give her a lot of bread or crackers - she prefers fruit to savoury foods so that's what I give her. It's a balancing act working out what I can give her that she'll eat and like without giving her an upset gut. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> [/url] Angel June 2012 |
Posted By: AandCsmum
Date Posted: 24 July 2011 at 5:49pm
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I've never heard of cane sugar as a food intolerance.
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A = 01.02.04 & C = 16.01.09 & G = 30.03.12 |
Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 24 July 2011 at 5:53pm
------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> [/url] Angel June 2012 |
AandCsmum wrote:Posted By: AandCsmum
Date Posted: 24 July 2011 at 8:12pm
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I'm almost picking that it's the sugar which is actually in the cane or the least processed sugar that they would be talking about. I think normal highly processed white sugar will be fine. ------------- Kel http://lilypie.com">
A = 01.02.04 & C = 16.01.09 & G = 30.03.12 |
Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 25 July 2011 at 3:57pm
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GP wasn't the most helpful she does have eczema and seemed to think it was an age thing, she did say to stay away from diary easy enough to do with her diet, how do I eliminate it from mine? ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> [/url] Angel June 2012 |
Posted By: 2crazykids
Date Posted: 25 July 2011 at 4:17pm
| switch to rice milk or soy milk, and use Olivani spread (it's the only dairy free spread) I always found Soy milk nicer than rice milk personally. It's in the same isle as coffee etc. And do the same switch if your a baker, and in mashed potatoes etc, you can't really tell the difference. Dairy free pikelets: 1tbsp Olive oil, 2 cups flour, then rice/soy milk to right consistancy. I cook like 2-3 batches up at one go, freeze in portions, a great snack on the go with Golden syrup, for me as well as kids! lol Love pikelets |
Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 25 July 2011 at 4:32pm
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I like soy milk so that's easy and will grab some olivani will be a good change for me from butter. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> [/url] Angel June 2012 |
Posted By: snugglebug
Date Posted: 25 July 2011 at 10:07pm
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Thanks for the dairy free pikelets recipe 2crazykids. Im thinking of going dairy free Im not breastfeeding anymore but DS is intolerant so it would make life simpler for cooking/shopping if we all did until he grows out of it (hopefully hehe)
Also with the RAST tests if you do see a paed they will organise that but my understanding is it is not always very accurate at such a young age? We are having it at 1 year... ------------- Me 28, DH 29 DS born 20 Nov 2010 (4 years old) #2 due October 7 http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: snugglebug
Date Posted: 25 July 2011 at 10:15pm
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Can you use oliviani instead of butter in baking? ------------- Me 28, DH 29 DS born 20 Nov 2010 (4 years old) #2 due October 7 http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: AandCsmum
Date Posted: 25 July 2011 at 11:20pm
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GP's can order RAST & skin prick tests.
Taking dairy out of things you make is easy, just switch to a dairy free spread instead of butter & use rice/soy/oat milk instead of cows milk. Basically with foods you buy watch out for anything that contains dairy or has whey/casin products, the MFD database has a list of dairy free foods. Or if in doubt ask, there are a few of us who are dairy free around here. ------------- Kel http://lilypie.com">
A = 01.02.04 & C = 16.01.09 & G = 30.03.12 |
Posted By: snugglebug
Date Posted: 26 July 2011 at 12:16pm
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Awesome :) DH has bad exzema and we've never figured out why so maybe going dairy free could have other spinoffs, who knows ------------- Me 28, DH 29 DS born 20 Nov 2010 (4 years old) #2 due October 7 http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: AandCsmum
Date Posted: 26 July 2011 at 2:21pm
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My advice if you don't want to go "milk" free on coffee or tea oat milk is definitely a nicer taste than soy. ------------- Kel http://lilypie.com">
A = 01.02.04 & C = 16.01.09 & G = 30.03.12 |
Posted By: T_Rex
Date Posted: 26 July 2011 at 7:22pm
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Yep, olivani substitutes for butter in most baking.
A&C's mum, my brother was intolerant to sucrose (cane sugar) and fructose, and apparently it is pretty common. He did grow out of it though, fortunately. Good luck C&J, it's so tricky to figure it out. Especially if, like DD, she's intolerant to more than one thing - when I went dairy free initially, I simultaneously upped my fruit intake and turns out fruit was just as bad so I saw no improvement. When I tried adding dairy back in though, she definitely got worse. ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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