TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1
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Topic: TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1
Posted By: frankie
Subject: TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1
Date Posted: 12 March 2012 at 9:39am
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Thought we'd start up a thread for those of us TTC # 2 after fertility struggles with # 1.
Just a bit about me, it took us nearly 2 years to conceive DD, we did 3 rounds of clomid unsuccessfully and then moved onto IUI, we conceived DD first round - yay! DD's now nearly 16 months and we've not been using contraception for a year, no luck yet. She is still BF (four feeds a day) so I'm not even sure if I'm ovulating. AF came back in November just before she turned 1. I'm using OPKs but haven't had the elusive 2 lines as yet. Tempted to go to FA to get monitoring to see if OVing but of course money is an issue!! I just find it so frustrating not knowing what is going on. Anyway enough about me, hope to chat with some more of you in a similar situation soon  ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 12 March 2012 at 10:37am
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Hey Frankie - thanks heaps for starting up this thread!
So, about me, it took us 18 months to conceive DD. After what felt like a million blood tests, ultraounds, an MRI, a scare where blood tests showed a possible brain tumour playing with my pituatary (sp?) I was finally diagnosed with a heart shaped uterus (which shouldn't impact on conception) and PCOS (but thankfully no tumour!). Due to DH's low sperm count and motility etc, and my PCOS we were advised that we would probably need IVF with ICSI. Just two months later we got our surpise BFP  , the week before we received our letter giving us the date for our first appointment with FA.
So we never ended up having to have fertility treatment but I hung out with clomid pill poppers who were great through all of the testing and waiting! I hope that we'll get a second miracle conception but fully expect that we'll need a little help. We haven't been using any contraception since DD was born a year ago, got AF back about five months ago but like before, cycles are all over the place and suspect I'm probably not ovulating. I'm also still BF (three feeds a day) but am going to work on dropping the middle of the day feed over the next month or so. I struggle with the decision to wean because I would really love to keep BFing for another six months at least but I know that with our history it needs to be done  ------------- After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10 DD1 Mar 11 After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13 DD2 Oct 13 |
Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 12 March 2012 at 10:37am
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Ooops, that ended up being a bit of a novel! ------------- After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10 DD1 Mar 11 After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13 DD2 Oct 13 |
Posted By: frankie
Date Posted: 12 March 2012 at 1:00pm
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The decision to wean or not is a hard one isn't it. My DD absolutely LOVES her milk and she won't drink anything else, not water, not even juice! so I'm a bit stuck until I can get her to drink water, as she needs some fluids! Although people tell me that if I wean her she will start to like water. I really want her to self wean but I'm not sure that will happen.
I also need to lose weight as considered medically obese which won't be helping my TTC efforts. I struggle with motivation as I am an emotional overeater - which I do more of when TTC or when I'm "trying to eat healthy". Catch 22! ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: bugbug
Date Posted: 12 March 2012 at 5:17pm
| i'll pop in and say a quick hi, but not time to post much today. i've been hanging on clomid thread for a (short) while as on 2nd month of trying that. DD number 1 is nearly 4 and no luck since AF arrived back when she was about 4 months old (BF until 18 mths tho). i'm not on the young side, and i'm running out of eggs prematurely and unexplained fertility issues for many years although did concieve DD naturally. so who knows if it will happen for me but i do consider myself lucky to have 1 miracle. that's why i like the idea of this thread as i really feel for those having trouble concieving number one and feel a bit bad talking about my struggles when at least i do have 1 child IYKWIM. |
Posted By: frankie
Date Posted: 12 March 2012 at 6:01pm
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Hey Bugbug, yes I know what you mean, I know when I was initially posting in the Clomid thread that I didn't mind those who already had a child posting, but I imagine that some probably don't want to hear about our babies, even pregnancu and childs age tickers can be hurtful when you're at your lowest in the journey.
I forgot to say that I had/have? "unexplained" infertility. I find it really interesting that I got my BFP immediately after I had an HSG xray and on our first IUI - pretty sure that one of them was responsible for me finally falling pregnant. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Buttons2
Date Posted: 12 March 2012 at 10:31pm
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Oooh... exciting Frankie & Ariel to see you on the journey again xx And good luck BugBug.
I've just been hanging out on OB a bit again - DD's are 5 & 1 yr now and age is a ticking... getting a feel whether we TTC another or just enjoy life with our two gorgeous girls  ------------- http://lilypie.com">  
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Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 13 March 2012 at 8:37am
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I'm lucky frankie, that my DD will drink water and cows milk, but boy does she get grumpy in the middle of the day if I'm late giving her a BF - she will start climbing all over me and grabbing at my top! It did take a while for her to drink water, we just kept giving it to her during her meals and she gradually caught on.
hi bugbug, and yes, like frankie, I know what you mean. I must admit, I got rid of my child age ticker when I posted the other day in the CPP thread. And hi Buttons. It's a hard decision to TTC when you've struggled in the past. DH and I recently agreed that we'll just keep trying to have children until I'm 40 (I'm 31 now), or earlier if we decide to stop sooner, but at the moment I'm finding it difficult to imagine spending the next 9 years constantly thinking about TTC (although HOPEFULLY there will be at least one more pregnancy in that time). Frankie, I've heard that about HSG's before, people getting pregnant right after having them. I'm pretty sure an HSG was top of the list of procedures our public gynae was recommending to FA that we have. It's funny that you say "had/have?" - I wonder the same about my PCOS - the only reason I ended up with that diagnosis is because I wasn't pregnant - I had some cysts, but not such huge ones that it was obviously PCOS, and none of my blood work showed up strong signs, so it kind of became my default diagnosis. But I figure if they let me keep the PCOS label then maybe I'll be able to get fertility treatment just a little sooner. ------------- After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10 DD1 Mar 11 After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13 DD2 Oct 13 |
Posted By: frankie
Date Posted: 13 March 2012 at 10:14am
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Hey Buttons I can imagine like Ariel said that it's a hard decision to TTC for a 3rd when you had such trouble with 2. If you're anything like me I guess you're thinking "do I really want to put myself through that again".
Yeah that's the thing Ariel, I guess I'm not infertile because I managed to fall pregnant and carry a baby to term. I just have fertility issues I spose! ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 14 March 2012 at 2:11pm
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A friend told me she is pregnant today. Her daughter is seven months older than mine, and surprisingly, I actually felt really happy for her straight away and only a teensy bit sad for me. It helps that she's been really open with TTC so I kinda knew it was coming (she doesn't have too many issues conceiving although she has miscarried in the past).
But all the pregnancy announcements surrounding me lately have got me thinking about trying to keep busy, and I've decided I'm going to concentrate on losing weight. We have a wedding near the Great Barrier Reef (Aus) to go to in late September and I'd love to be able to wear a bikini while I'm there. When I was TTC the last time the public gynae said I should be under 64kgs and for every 5% of my body weight I managed to lose I would increase my chances of getting pregnant, so I'm going to hang onto that. I'm currently about 72kgs I think so it's only 8kgs but given I'm terribly unfit at the moment I think it will be a little bit of a struggle. If only Abby was walking I could take her to park and run around - hopefully we have a late resurgence of summer once she does start walking and we'll be able to get out together a bit. ------------- After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10 DD1 Mar 11 After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13 DD2 Oct 13 |
Posted By: frankie
Date Posted: 14 March 2012 at 8:08pm
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It is much easier to take the news of a friends pregnancy now that I have one of my own. I just feel envious more than anything nowadays. It still annoys me when someone falls pregnant by accident and the child is unwanted, it just seems so wrong!
Snap Ariel, I've been thinking just the same thing. I keep thinking about TTC all the time again and I really don't like being in that space again. Also here I am wasting money on OPK's and contemplating seeing FA again, when I should really just knuckle down and try to lose some weight first, which is free! I did lose a few kgs right before I conceived DD so it could well have been that which got my body working. Does your little girl like to go out in the pram, you could start walking with her perhaps as a means of exercise? ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Ceres
Date Posted: 15 March 2012 at 11:03am
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Hi girls, nice to find this thread. Nice to see some familiar faces in here Frankie, Ariel, and Buttons (and not nice, IYKWIM - be nicer if nobody had to go through this twice), and good to 'meet' you bugbug. Quick rehash, I have PCOS which was annovulatory. It took a year of failed clomid cycles ('not responding, not ovulating') to be given ovarian diathermy (ovary drilling), the month after the surgery with low dose clomid, ovidrel, and progesterone we conceived DD. She was weaned at 10 months for health reasons which is a whole other story, but I got the surprise of my life when I actually got an AF, naturally, following her weaning. Because our specialist had said the best time for me to conceive a second would be directly after weaning we made an appointment right away with Repromed (having heard good things about them). Our new specialist put me on metformin, which has seen me since ovulate, ON MY OWN (!), every month. Unfortunately I still have a rubbish luteal phase of 7 days which is obviously not long enough. We did a clomid, ovidrel, progesterone cycle in February which resulted in a BFN, and have just had this cycle 'off' to regroup. Unfortunately this cycle has been super loopy, and I've had spotting every day since my AF ended, so my specialist has called me in for a review next week to figure out what's going on.
So know what you girls mean about thinking about TTC. I am based at the hospital one day a week and accidentally got off on the maternity floor the other day. Fraudian! |
Posted By: frankie
Date Posted: 15 March 2012 at 8:32pm
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Hey Ceres
I went to my GP today (for a few things) and discussed TTC with her. She basically said until I wean DD there is probably no point in serious TTC as it's impossible to track things when you're feeding. I asked her about getting some bloods to check whether I'm OVing or not, she said she could but the results wouldn't mean anything, as I might ovulate one month but not the next, seeing the amount the baby feeds can vary on different days, therefore affecting OV. I kind of thought this was the case but it was good to get it confirmed. So I'm gonna concentrate on weight loss for now. I plan to wean DD from day feeds at 18 months and have her completely weaned by 2. I'm just going to have to learn to be patient until then......! Thank goodness I have my lovely little girl and if she is all I ever have, then I am still incredibly fortunate. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: KH25
Date Posted: 16 March 2012 at 10:41am
Just lurking - saw a few familiar names and was having a little nosy  I just wanted to say all the best for round two (or 3 lol), I hope you all get your another little miracle in your lives - and all your little ones are so gorgeous, I love seeing updates on FB Good luck guys  ------------- Kelly, mum to DD, 19Jun06 (26wks 1lb15oz) DS1, 24Oct10 (32wks 4lb11oz) and DS2, 31Dec11 (32wks, 4lb11) http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: frankie
Date Posted: 16 March 2012 at 11:10am
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thanks Kelly, hope your little brood is all good x ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Ceres
Date Posted: 18 March 2012 at 9:11am
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Hi Kelly! Thanks for the luck! Love your pics on FB too, how incredible to have the two boys so close together. Is DS1 walking now?
Frankie, hopefully you manage to catch one of those ovulatory months. From what I understand losing weight definitely ups the chances of ovulation, so fingers crossed it doesn't take much. Are you going to use OPKs to try catch it or just take it as it comes? I can't believe your DD is only two months shy of 18 months. It has gone so fast. I'm on CD1 today, which means I guess that if the specialist gives approval, we can do a day 5-9 clomid cycle this month. Not entirely sure what he's going to say though, given how this month has gone. From my pre-DD annovulatory days to a 21 day cycle with spotting every day. Still, will be good to hear what he has to say! |
Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 18 March 2012 at 4:19pm
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Hi ladies. This feels like old times! Which is good and bad, I guess. I don't quite fit the bill, but of course I'm lurking... and I'll be joining when we start trying for a third. Because Emily happened so soon after we had Jacob (one AF then bam), despite us thinking it would take longer with the troubles we had having him), I have no idea what to expect this time round.
I can completely relate to the idea of not wanting to 'start' TTCing because you don't want to open yourself up to all the pain you went through last time. That was one of the reasons I was determined not to use protection after Jacob was born - that way I could just see what happened without having to make a decision at some point to stop using it, which immediately puts the pressure on for something to happen. This time, though, DH has said he wants a bigger age gap (I'd be fine with another small one, but I guess it takes two ) so I'll have to do that at some point.-------------   
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Posted By: frankie
Date Posted: 18 March 2012 at 5:03pm
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Yes I'm doing OPKs this month, I think I'll lay off them for a few months after this month as they're a bit expensive. Especially since I'm starting them on Day 10 and going through until AF starts, as cycle length has been erratic since AF returned.
Ceres, have you done any googling on what it might be? Seems strange huh. Also, what do you guys think re coffee and it's effect on conception? When TTC # 1 I cut down, then switched to decaf, then read that was bad so cut it out altogether. I adore coffee and just don't wanna give it up, plus "needing" it takes on another meaning when you've got a baby I reckon! He he Hopes I'm glad to hear you'll be back for round 3 ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: bugbug
Date Posted: 19 March 2012 at 8:52pm
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hi all,
frankie, i've never been a coffee drinker so don't have that issue... but i do like the odd diet coke and so i sometimes cut it out for a week around ovulation - but i don't think there's much point doing it that way. I'd need to cut it out permanently to really help. but i figure i got pregnant first time around drinking a V every arvo and so it can't be worse than that - and i won't deny myself some pleasures when it probably won't make a fat bit of difference! anyway my good news for today (as good a news as there can be on day 2 grrr - yep another wasted clomid cycle). anyway the good news - finally after 7 mths of waiting, i got my HSG tubes flush thing booked this month. it's on this thurs so i had to promise i wouldn't be bleeding by then, so i'm trying to bleed super fast - any tips to help! (actually i should be sweet by then i decided). And an extra good reason that it's a good month for my hsg, is that DP and I will be away from each other on day 13 till day 16 this month so it would be pointless paying for a clomid cycle, so i'm feeling kinda happy :) |
Posted By: Ceres
Date Posted: 19 March 2012 at 9:41pm
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Re coffee and its effect on conception, last time I cut down to one espresso a day and this time around I'm doing the same. No other caffeine in my diet (tea, chocolate, etc). I don't know that it would make a big difference unless you were a massive consumer but anything that can be done in our control to help and all..
Good luck with the HSG bugbug, I know Frankie is a fan of what they can do! Sorry, no idea how to bleed faster haha - perhaps stay upright for the week?!
Dr Google tells me a likely culprit might be ovarian cysts, Frankie. Which I guess would make sense given I have PCOS. I have a scan form to book in for imaging now, so figure I'll book in for later in the week after AF ends. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">  http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">  <
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Posted By: bugbug
Date Posted: 19 March 2012 at 9:50pm
| hee hee upright for the week! might struggle with that one :) AF actually started saturday evening (just calling sunday day 1) so should be done by thurs. But still got fingers crossed as i can't stuff this appt up! |
Posted By: frankie
Date Posted: 20 March 2012 at 8:52pm
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Oh good luck bugbug, really hope AF has finished by Thursday for you. Think I said I got pregnant the month after my HSG so fingers crossed it might help you too. If you have any questions about it feel free to ask away!
Ceres, hope it's not an ovarian cyst. Although I guess a diagnosis is good, as long as it can be fixed. How would that impact on your TTC? Day 19 and no OV yet. I really mustn't be OVing then, darn it. Will keep testing as last cycle was 37 days. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: bugbug
Date Posted: 21 March 2012 at 7:38pm
| well didn't bleed all day, so should be good for tomorrow. bit nervous and not sure what to expect. i read on here i think that you get an idea on results straight away, ie if your tubes are blocked - is that right? i'd be surprised if mine are, but can only see... |
Posted By: frankie
Date Posted: 21 March 2012 at 7:44pm
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That's great news Bugbug!! Not sure where you are, I went to a place on Manukau Rd in Epsom (Auckland), the nurse there was really lovely and talks you through it, even holds your hand during the procedure, really nice lady. That was a few years ago but hopefully wherever you are going the people are just as nice. Mine was pretty uncomfortable, however others have told me that they found it no worse than a smear, guess it all depends on the individual. You can take panadol and nurofen beforehand which might help. It is over pretty quick though.
We had a debrief with the radiologist immediately after and she told me that my tubes were clear, I think they can also tell you if your uterus has any issues too. Good luck, hope it goes well ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: bugbug
Date Posted: 21 March 2012 at 9:29pm
| thanks frankie. will let you guys know how it went after tomorrow :) |
Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 22 March 2012 at 8:47am
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All the best for today, bugbug -------------
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Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 22 March 2012 at 9:45am
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Hi Girls,
Sorry I haven't been on for so long - been hectic with birthday planning - DD was 1 yesterday and feels a little crazy to have a 1 year old - her birthday party is Saturday so probably won't get a chance to come back on here again until next week. Hi Ceres. That's great news that you ovulating by yourself! I hope you don't have a cyst, although it is always nice to have answers and hopefully a plan of attack - I found the the worst thing is not knowing why, and not having anything you can do. Frankie, that's stink that your GP said no point in seriously TTC until you've weaned, but I guess it makes sense. I don't bother doing OPKs, as you said, it gets a bit expensive if you don't know how long your cycle length is going to be, or even if you are going to ovulate at all. Not sure about caffeine, I try to avoid coffee but do have a couple of hot chocolates a day so am probably getting some caffeine that way. Hi Hopes, yup, it certainly does feel like old times. Hope you will be joining us soon on the TTC wagon! Bugbug, good luck with HSG today! Heard of a few people getting their BFP after having one. As for me, I'm CD5 today - last two cycles have been 40 and 42 days days so I'm wondering if I'm settling into a 40-ish day cycle. That would make a change from the sometimes 20 days and sometimes 60 days cycles I had before DD. Unlike you Frankie, I'm totally impatient so now that DD is 1 I think I'm going to work on weaning her and hopefully have her fully weaned by the time she is 18 months. I am tempted to just stop cold turkey (as I read somewhere that the chances of getting pregnant are increased the more suddenly you wean) but two things about that freak me out, firstly, I think DD would TOTALLY freak out and secondly, would be worried about mastitis (which I have so far managed to avoid) - so just to make it easier for everyone will do it gradually and probably cut out the afternoon feed over the next week or so and then that would leave only the first thing in the morning feed and the last thing at night feed (and the occasional middle of the night feed). Now that DD is 1 I am getting A LOT of people asking if we are going to have more, and I always answer yes, but it's a bit frustrating as some of the people who are asking know that it took a while to get pregnant the first time and I'm not really in the headspace at the moment to go through the whole thing with them again. I do have one friend though who knows we are TTC and I must admit, it is really lovely to have someone IRL who you can talk cycle lengths, and temps, and ovulation with who really gets it (I try not to talk to DH about it too much as I don't want him to feel pressured and then be unable to....ahem....perform) Right, better get going, hope you all have a wonderful weekend and keep your fingers crossed for me for a nice day on Saturday for DD's birthday party! ------------- After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10 DD1 Mar 11 After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13 DD2 Oct 13 |
Posted By: bugbug
Date Posted: 22 March 2012 at 10:12am
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well all went ok - thanks for well wishes :) I feel fine now - feel like i should be back at work, but oh well... took the whole day off, so i'll go with that.
Turns out i do have a blockage on the right side though. So i guess that means every second mth, my chances of concieving are pretty low. combined with my age and low number of eggs that are supposedly left (less than there should be), i guess things aren't looking great. But on the positive side, i know i ovulated mostly left side last month and right side previous month (due to monitored clomid) so it's my dud right side again this month (when DP will be away over ovulation anyway) and then my good left side next month (all going logically of course) where we may decide to go IUI... maybe.... so looking at bright side, and will wait to hear from FA. they think that will be this arvo. |
Posted By: frankie
Date Posted: 22 March 2012 at 3:08pm
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Pleased it went okay Bugbug but sorry to hear about the blockage. Thank goodness it's just one side. Are you private or public through FA? Hope they can come up with a good plan for you.
Aww happy birthday to your DD Ariel! How exciting. It's such a big milestone, the first birthday Good luck with the weaning, I hope it goes well for you! Oh and I'm totally not patient, just trying to be, ha ha. Totally sympathise on the "are you going to have another" questions. I'm getting that a lot too and it's really frustrating, especially as like you, I'm getting it from people who know I struggled the first time. It's like they think that having one baby fixes your fertility problems!?!?!?
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Posted By: Caronz
Date Posted: 22 March 2012 at 4:32pm
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Hi everyone,
We have been trying TTC#2 for what feels like forever!!! we know we have male factor issues so have been doing DI (doner insemination) 10 of them last year in fact! Now we have to make the tough choice as to if we do another drug stimulated round of DI or IVF, or do we count our blessings and be happy with our happy healty DS (who is nearly3) such a hard thing to decide. Wish I had a crystal ball, or last nights winning Big Wednesday ticket ------------- TTC since 06 with MFI IVF with ICSI 2007 BFN DI Sept 08=BFP DS 06/09 TTC #2 since June 2010 DI#2 Aug10=BFP MC@10weeks 2011= 10 rounds of DI 4 with clomid- all neg May 2012- IVF |
Posted By: bugbug
Date Posted: 22 March 2012 at 4:54pm
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i spoke too soon re no pain - cramps started after an hour and i'm layed up on the sofa. not too bad though. I'm private - so got to consider what i spend compared to likelyhood of it working. apparently less than 5% chance to concieve on IUI for me...
And yeah i get all the questions too - it's the rudest question in the world "are you having another?" or "when are you having another?" well one of the rudest questions IMO. |
Posted By: frankie
Date Posted: 22 March 2012 at 8:06pm
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Oh sorry to hear that Bugbug. I think I had cramps for a few days, not the nicest is it, they were better each day though so hopefully you'll be feeling a lot better tomorrow. Hard decision whether to go for IUI or IVF isn't it, the funding (or lack) of NZ sucks really. Hope whatever you decide to do that you get a BFP very soon!
Hi Caronz, gosh you've had a hard run. I can imagine it's a really hard decision on whether to keep going or not with trying. The drug stimulation may make a difference? Do you have good size follies without? Funnily enough I was considering doing an unmedicated IUI (opposite to you!) as I'm still BF but as I'm pretty sure I'm not ovulating there is no point really. Garr I hate waiting and not being able to do anything!!! ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 26 March 2012 at 7:25pm
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Hi all,
Back after the madness of organising a first birthday party - gosh, it was exhausting (still recovering now - am SUPER tired!). Was great fun though and had people from out of town make the effort which was really nice. Sorry to hear about the cramping bugbug, how are you feeling now? Hi Caronz, you've been through a lot and understand why you are thinking hard about where to go from here. I actually feel really terrible now about asking people in the past if they were going to have another one - it was well before we were TTC and I just didn't have any real idea how difficult it can be for some people. Now, if the other person brings up more children then I'll ask (or if they ask me), but otherwise I just don't bring it up. So today was day 1 without a middle of the day BF and DD seemed to handle it well. Just distracted her with toys then gave her an afternoon tea of yoghurt instead. I am hoping it doesn't result in her waking in the night for a feed so I guess we'll see how we go. ------------- After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10 DD1 Mar 11 After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13 DD2 Oct 13 |
Posted By: bugbug
Date Posted: 26 March 2012 at 9:37pm
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am fine now thanks arieangel... still a little crampy the day after but fine by saturday.
glad dropping the BF is going ok. my DD dropped her midday BF on her first birthday - just wasn't interested anymore, but it certainly didn't result in her waking in the night for it either so i'm sure you'll be fine :) |
Posted By: frankie
Date Posted: 27 March 2012 at 7:41am
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glad you had a successful party ArielAngel! Good luck on dropping the BF, hope your night went okay.
Good to hear your cramping has stopped bugbug. Are you TTC this month or waiting for next month? FA wouldn't let me TTC the month of my HSG, think it was something to do with possible radiation in my body affecting things? As for me, have been doing OPK's since day 9, on day 26 now, was just about to give up but decided there was no harm in perservering until AF arrived,to rule out a late OV. Lo and behold last night there was a much darker line than I've ever had before. Not a positive but possibly leading up to one?? Was quite exciting just to see something other than a pathetic wimpy looking 2nd line! Hope you all have a great day ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 27 March 2012 at 6:21pm
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Glad you are feeling better bugbug.
And congrats on the dark line on your OPKs frankie - I never got a positive OPK so that must be pretty cool. I remember when I got my BFP with my DD I worked out that I'd OV'd on CD40! Day 2 today of no daytime feed and it seems to be going ok - DD didn't sleep quite as well last night, but that could be anything as she had those nights before when I was still BFing in the middle of the day. Oh well, better head off as it's time for bedtime stories - hope you girls are all well ------------- After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10 DD1 Mar 11 After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13 DD2 Oct 13 |
Posted By: bugbug
Date Posted: 28 March 2012 at 8:27pm
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they didn't mention about not ttcing this month frankie, but i wouldn't concieve anyway as should be ovulating off what i now know is my blocked side. hoping to do IUI next month...
oh and yay for a dark line... :) |
Posted By: frankie
Date Posted: 28 March 2012 at 8:34pm
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Yeah I wonder if I have been giving up on the OPK's too early, I just assumed I'd be ovulating around Day 14 but clearly not. Decided this month to just keep going till AF arrived and what do you know. THink I had my LH surge sometime today as I had a dark line this morning but back to negative this afternoon. Serial testing much?? He he. Thank goodness for internet cheapies! Of course now I have my hopes up big time of a possible conception, and then you think "well why not!" but argh you know it's going to hurt when the BFN comes. Welcome back to the rollercoaster Frankie!
That's great that your weaning is going well Ariel, hope your DD had a better night last night and tonight. Awesome that you have IUI to look forward to bugbug. Always good to have something in the pipeline I reckon. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Ceres
Date Posted: 28 March 2012 at 8:42pm
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Hi girls, sorry for the big break away, life has been busy!
Welcome Caronz. What a journey and a half you've been on. Have all your IUIs been medicated? Lots of strength to you with making the call on the next step x. bugbug sorry to hear you had pain post-hsg. I always thought it was random what side you ovulated month to month? (I'm free to be corrected though!!) I think I remember you saying your DH was away during ov time this cycle so you'll be trying next month? Fingers crossed that unblocked side does its thing at the right time .
Sooooo excited for your positive OPK Frankie! Such a big step! Ariel good work with dropping the midday feed. Does your daughter drink water well (or cows milk at all)? I think, in theory, if you can get them to eat yoghurt and cheese and get milk in through cereal or sauces (imm, macaroni cheese), that the calcium level is okay to wean to water if they don't take to milk or formula. Don't quote me on that but I do know a few mums who have done exactly that. I used to get SO frustrated with the 'when are you going to have children?' comments pre-DD - in fact, pre even TTC DD. We were together 8 years before we started trying, married for 3, and people just all put their noses in. When we were actually TTC, it was even worse. This time around though, I don't mind it so much for some reason. I normally say we'd love for her to have a sibling if we are lucky enough - people that know our history actually haven't tended to probe. This is with the exception of some family members who have put noses in where they are not wanted and come out with comments like what Frankie's had, 'having a baby fixes things, it will be easy next time', ummmm... hmmm. I think, no, I'm sure, yup, still have problems! We had our specialist review last Thurs, and luckily (woohooo!) nothing sinister seen on scan. Just to be doubly sure, I had blood tests done but the doctor thinks that the 'whole cycle spotting' was related to an inefficient ovulation, and probably a oncer. Still, just in case it is related to something more concerning, we're not allowed to do a medicated cycle this month so we can see what happens with this cycle. Which suuuucckks. I hate waiting when you know there is zero chance of anything happening naturally. We'll book in for a clomid/ovidrel/progesterone cycle for the start of next cycle though, which, based on current form, is probably going to start in about 10 days .. so isn't *that* long to wait. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> <
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Posted By: bugbug
Date Posted: 29 March 2012 at 8:18pm
| oh no, i thought it was alternating sides (but not strictly, but pretty much so) and my last 2 monitored cycles certainly showed that. hmmm guess i'll wait and see what FA say when they phone... at least i'll know from a scan which side my follicles are, and if wrong side, i wont go through with the iui... |
Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 30 March 2012 at 10:37am
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That's interesting, Ceres, I felt exactly the same way - I hated the 'when are you having babies' comments when TTC, and didn't tell anyone about our fertility issues. The second time round I was quite upfront when people asked 'when are you having another?', I'd say that we'd like one at any time, but since we'd had trouble having DS it could take a while.
And because we *did* get pregnant very quickly second time round, I get everyone saying 'Oh, it's always that way, isn't it, it's probably just because you were relaxed about having one and busy focussing on him'. Um, yea, perhaps not. I never realised that kind of comment could be as annoying when you have got a baby as when you're trying for one!! -------------
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Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 30 March 2012 at 2:16pm
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That BFP is still a possibility Frankie – don’t give up hope!
I must admit though, that BFNs don’t hurt quite as much as they used to, I think I’m just used to it now . It’s kind of like buying a lotto ticket, you know there is a chance you’ll win big and get a little excited at the thought, but you aren’t very surprised when you don’t actually win.
Ceres, DD does drink water really well so we will probably more or less wean her onto water and yoghurt and cheese and milky cereal. She drinks cows milk but she isn’t very enthusiastic about it – she might get better as she gets older and more used to it. And yay Ceres for nothing sinister on your scan! Sucky that you have to wait a whole cycle though just to see what is happening, luckily time seems to go so quick when you already have a little one so the next 10 days should fly past. We have only had one person mention that once you’ve had one baby it might be easier to get pregnant again – luckily, because depending on my mood I might just snipe back at them that it’s been nearly a year of unprotected sex and we still aren’t anywhere! (no need to mention that I’ve only had AF back for five or so months but I still like to count TTC from when we first BD’d after having DD because it was entirely intentional, trying to catch that super-fertility that can happen right after having a baby) ------------- After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10 DD1 Mar 11 After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13 DD2 Oct 13 |
Posted By: frankie
Date Posted: 30 March 2012 at 4:33pm
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Annoying Hopes, man people need to keep their comments to themselves.....
Agree with Ariel, 10 days is not too long to wait Ceres, 9 now he he! It always sucks when you have to wait though so I do sympathise. Thanks Ariel, yeah I agree the BFN's are nowhere near as bad and almost expected, I think it's just cos this month I'm pretty sure I've ovulated so it's like a real chance. We'll see I love your lotto analogy!
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Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 03 April 2012 at 2:02pm
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How's the wait going Ceres - less than a week now!
I'm pretty confident we now have DD well weaned off the middle of the day feed , which means she only gets first thing in the morning and last thing at night now. I don't think she particularly needs the first thing in the morning one as she feeds, then plays for about five minutes and then grumbles for breakfast. We might be going away this weekend though, so I'll wait until we know what we are doing before looking at getting rid of that morning feed.
Looks like we might be finished weaning well before she is 18 months by the progress we are making so far. I feel a little guilty that I'm not more upset by weaning  - I do like our nice quiet time together as DD isn't really a very snuggly/cuddly baby but I am more than ready to have my body back. ------------- After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10 DD1 Mar 11 After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13 DD2 Oct 13 |
Posted By: frankie
Date Posted: 03 April 2012 at 6:30pm
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Sounds like it's going well Ariel. Don't feel guilty, you've BF'd her for a whole year which is such an achievement and will have given her a great start
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Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 04 April 2012 at 6:47am
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Yes, don't feel guilty, although I had nteded to breastfeed DS longer than I did before he weaned himself, and although I did keep trying hard to make sure I couldn't persuade him it was still a good idea, there was definitely part of me that enjoyed him being weaned. Pretty normal, I'd say -------------
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Posted By: frankie
Date Posted: 04 April 2012 at 5:57pm
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Ha I must have known something, AF arrived today. Ah well. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: bugbug
Date Posted: 09 April 2012 at 9:56pm
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Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 10 April 2012 at 2:40pm
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Hey everyone,
It's been quiet in here - guessing we've all been busy with Easter! That's stink that AF arrived frankie - Hopefully this coming cycle will be your one!
We went away this Easter and got to catch up with family and friends - was really lovely and DD LOVED playing with a friends two little girls (2.5 and 4) - really tugged at my heart strings - I so hope that we can get a little sibling for DD. The dieting and exercise has been terrible lately though - not helped by a teething DD who wakes two/three times a night and then decides that 5am it is time to wake up - am sooooo tired and end up having chocolate and coke just to stay awake. Would be a lot easier if I didn't have to squeeze in work during naps and in the evenings. Speaking of work, I should head off and do some before my meeting tomorrow. Hope you are all well *baby dust to all!* ------------- After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10 DD1 Mar 11 After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13 DD2 Oct 13 |
Posted By: Ceres
Date Posted: 11 April 2012 at 1:42pm
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Sorry that your AF played games and arrived early Frankie. That is always massively disappointing. I think you were thinking of looking into B6 supplementation? What are you thinking you'll do with this cycle?
Glad you had a good Easter Ariel, I so know what you mean about watching other siblings. In our case too I'm desperate for DD to have a sibling as company as she can't go to many toddler activities because of her serious allergies. I had a crazy month. My AF arrived on CD21, but I'm almost positive I didn't ovulate. In any case, have been able to start clomid again (CD3-7), and am now CD 7. First BT is Friday. Bring it. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> <
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Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 11 April 2012 at 3:21pm
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Great to hear from you Ceres. Good luck for that BT on Friday.
That sucks about the allergies - I guess there is just too much risk of contamination. Are there allergy playgroups? I'm on CD 25 and have been having light brown spotting - if this is AF on her way, then I seem to be having a 25/26 day cycle followed by a 60-ish day cycle, then back to 25/26 days etc 
I'm pretty sure AF is on her way because I'm a bit emotional today - am feeling down because I'm pretty sure my neighbour is pregnant (we both have one year olds and did the same antenatal class) - she hasn't "announced" it, but she's said a few things about number two, then she touched her belly one time, has been to the doctor recently and is posting lots of little baby stuff (incl room decorating ideas) on Pinterest. I'm not the kind of person to ask outright but wouldn't be surprised if she tells me she is pregnant in a month or so.
So, I think I'm going to head off and have a five minute mope and "woe is me" fest (and perhaps eat some chocolate biscuits) - and then try get over myself and bake a cake for DH for our "13 years of being together" anniversary tomorrow! (and then seven year wedding anniversary is next week). ------------- After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10 DD1 Mar 11 After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13 DD2 Oct 13 |
Posted By: bugbug
Date Posted: 11 April 2012 at 5:39pm
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sorry to hear that you think AF is coming arie. and i know what it's like 'knowing' someone is pregnant and waiting for them to announce. i think when we are ttcing, we are so in tune with those things so we have time to prepare for the happy news of others?
i had sort of good news today. well i would never have thought the tube blockage i found out about a couple of weeks back (hsg test) would be a postive thing. apparently i now have points to qualify for public funding... but for one thing. I need to re test my FSH (is that what it's called) and get it 15 or under. it's currently 16 which means i don't qualify. so have form for free test on day 2 (coming soon) but don't like to get my hopes up... i'm soooo close. then i can do IUI for 4 cycles funded, instead of paying for the 1 cycle we were going to stretch to. IVF would mean waiting list and i'd be too old by then... So no idea if i should hope for that, but apparently the number can go up and down a bit, so very possible. The last FSH test was months ago tho, so unlikely to have come down? it's the test which indicates how many eggs are left... gotta go, dinners beeping - but yeah that's where i'm at. |
Posted By: frankie
Date Posted: 11 April 2012 at 5:55pm
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Oh big hugs Ariel! It is always hard when someone you know is pregnant who had the first baby around the same time as you. Two of the girls in my coffee group are and I found it hard when I found out, although I was pleased for them at the same time. Hope you enjoyed the chocolate biscuits and baking.
Speaking of which, how hard is it to eat well!!!?!?!?! I know it's what I should be doing but just for that reason I find myself "rebelling" and eating worse than ever. Ceres good luck for this cycle! I'm envious of you going through a FS, so good to have the monitoring. As for me, still undecided as to what to do this month. Part of me wants to take a break because I'm so over it already and I HATE the way it's making me feel (desperate and obsessed). The other part says "no, what if this is the month and you miss out on a chance?". Guess I'd better make up my mind, must be on CD8 about now. Seriously contemplating going back to FA....read something the other day about clomid being fine while breastfeeding, would be interesting to talk to FS just to see what they say/recommend. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 11 April 2012 at 10:02pm
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Thanks girls, you are awesome
I am totally happy for her - I think it's great that she doesn't have any issues getting pregnant - I wouldn't wish this on anyone, I just wish I could wish fertility on anyone I wanted, including myself! And yes bugbug, it is good that I have time to prepare for the news - the more I think about, the more excited I am - as I will really be able to help out in those first few weeks/months when life is just crazy. She isn't the first in my coffee group though, there is one girl who is due with her second in May (her son will be about 14 months old) - she was actually the hardest to hear about as I had just got my head around the fact that I'd missed that super fertile period just after you have a baby, I really missed being pregnant and I just wasn't expecting any pregnancy announcements. I generally prefer to get texts telling me about pregnancy announcements as by the time I get to see the person I am over my own disappointment it's not me and am truly and wholly happy for them. I remember going to a party when I was pregnant and a friend of mines wife was there and he knew I was pregnant but he hadn't told his wife, who I knew wanted to have kids (but they were waiting for a year or so), and I really felt for her as she had to congratulate me amongst the shock of it . Next time (because there WILL be one) she is definitely going to be on my text list.
That's great news that you might get public funding bugbug - I saw your other message about getting your FSH lower, and honestly have no idea, but good luck! Oh frankie, I know what you mean about the eating! We have lots of crap in our house from DDs birthday, but as soon as it is gone I am definitely not going to buy any more - I figure if it's not there I can't eat it! And I can join the desperate and obsessed club too frankie - most days I think I'm ok, but again, I think with AF creeping up I am really feeling it at the moment. I was reading the other day something about clomid reducing supply which was why it wasn't recommended for BF mums - but I figure that if your child is getting enough calcium and nutrients from their food (and maybe cows milk) then if your supply reduced it wouldn't be a big deal. I have probably only got one chance with getting DH to agree to pay for a private appointment so I've resigned myself to waiting until DD is weaned (only 5.5 months to go!) but if you do decide to go would love to know what they say. Right, that is a bit of a monster post - think it is time to do a bit more work before I head off to bed!------------- After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10 DD1 Mar 11 After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13 DD2 Oct 13 |
Posted By: Petunia
Date Posted: 13 April 2012 at 2:21pm
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Totally agree Ariel, easier to hear about it via text or facebook, that way you can have your own little private pity party and be over it by the time you see them!
I've decided to try this month, may as well. Started the OV sticks yesterday so will see what happens. I will probably go back to FA around June, that will mark a year that we've been trying. I'll definitely let you know what they say Ariel! Edited to add that this is Frankie, months ago I changed my forum name but it didn't work and I'd set up a new account, no idea why my computer has randomly logged me in as this now!!! |
Posted By: bugbug
Date Posted: 14 April 2012 at 11:29am
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Hey urgent question which there doesn't seem anyone i can phone to ask today on this...
my day 2 for my fsh test is due tomorrow (sunday) and i really want to get it done on the suggested day for the most accurate (and therefore hopefully the most favourable) results. I have heard that pathlab in angelsea st is open for an hour on sunday morning for fertility patients. Can i use this service for doing my day 2 FSH test or is it only for daily bloods? And what time is it open, is it 8am? I might ask in my other thread too... very very nervous about this test so having a super healthy eating day! (and yes tried ringing pathlab but no one answers - it's just a message service with their general opening hours) |
Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 14 April 2012 at 12:11pm
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Hey Frankie/Petunia - I was reading your post and wondering who this person was - then got the end and realised - lol.
Sorry bugbug, I'm in Wellington so can't help - hopefully someone can answer for you. So no AF has turned up yet, which is odd. Had some very very light spotting CD 24-25 and I thought it was AF on her way but nope, now CD28 and it's all just stopped - it's good news for DH though, he'll get some BD on our wedding anniversary! ------------- After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10 DD1 Mar 11 After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13 DD2 Oct 13 |
Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 15 April 2012 at 5:52am
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Petunia... I quite like it Very pretty, it suits you!
Sorry, I can't answer your question, Bubg bug Why don't you rock on up there and check with them? I guess the worst that can happen is a wasted trip. -------------
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Posted By: Petunia
Date Posted: 15 April 2012 at 8:23am
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Ariel! Any chance that could have been implantation spotting?!?!?!?! Keep us posted!
Bugbug sorry I don't know either, definitely agree it's worth a trip. Good luck! He he Hopes, is a cute name but I want to be Frankie and I can't seem to log out of being Petunia! Ha ha you guys will think I'm one of those trolls who have multiple posting identities 
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Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 15 April 2012 at 9:05am
Yes, because you're so like that 
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Posted By: bugbug
Date Posted: 15 April 2012 at 9:07am
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yes well i did rock on up there... and they were closed! but i saw a couple of other people pull up and stay in their cars so i waited and watched and they opened about 10 minutes later. 8.30 - 9.30 apparently. she seemed ok with me having that test today too, but hopefully it was ok with fertility clinic. to be honest, it was easier than trying to do it monday anyway.
so now the worst wait of my life! so nervous... but what will be, will be, i guess Arie, i wondered about implantation spotting too! fingers crossed. |
Posted By: Petunia
Date Posted: 15 April 2012 at 10:51am
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Really hope it's a good result Bugbug! Awesome timing for the BT, worth the trip definitely!
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Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 16 April 2012 at 9:00am
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Hey girls,
I've been thinking about the weird spotting and I'm thinking it was AF thinking about coming, and then because DD has been waking 3-4 times a night (and I've BF her 2-3 out of those times just so I can get back to bed) my hormones have scared it off! Being a POAS addict I don't even think I have any pregnancy tests around at the moment to even try, but TBH, I generally don't test until CD60 anymore. On the bright side, DD slept through the entire 12 hours last night for the first time in two weeks - long may it continue! Yay bugbug on getting the test done yesterday. Uh oh, Tiki Tour is finishing (DD LOVES it!) so better head off and get her ready for a nap. Hope you are all well ------------- After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10 DD1 Mar 11 After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13 DD2 Oct 13 |
Posted By: Ceres
Date Posted: 16 April 2012 at 10:20am
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I thought we had a new member in the group too .
Ariel, good luck. I really hope that you do get a massive surprise and it does turn out that it was implantation spotting. And YAY at your DD doing a STTN. It knocks you around when they do a good stink of sleeping then decide to stop for a bit doesn't it! Happy anniversary too .
That's great you were able to get the test done BugBug. Crossing fingers for you. AFM, got my BT results back friday - estrogen at 1300 on CD9, unheard of for me! Scan Saturday morning and had one 22mm follie and 10mm lining, so triggered with ovidrel. I have a BT tomorrow to check progesterone and will start pessaries at 2pm. So now in the dreaded 2WW. Makes it so much more anticipatory when you know you're actually, really truly, in with a chance for once. Get the feeling the days will drag, but I do have an exam next week (eek!) so that should be good distraction!!! ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> <
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Posted By: Petunia
Date Posted: 16 April 2012 at 7:50pm
Hoping you have a nice surprise too Ariel I'd be testing but that's just because I do it to put an end to stupid pointless fantasizing, I am shocking for working out due dates and things for babies that haven't actually been created 
Exciting stuff Ceres! Hope it goes fast for you
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Posted By: bugbug
Date Posted: 17 April 2012 at 8:13pm
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just have to let you guys know - my FSH came down from 16 to 12.5 - so public funding here we come!!!! can't believe it, was so happy i cried!
Only for iui's though, as waiting list for ivf is too long and i'd be too old, but first IUI this month - here we come! maybe my eggs aren't as old as they thought, or maybe my 2 days of watching what i ate, really did the trick... |
Posted By: Petunia
Date Posted: 17 April 2012 at 8:17pm
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Aww that is awesome Bugbug!!! I bet you are stoked Really hope it works for you......I got pregnant with my DD on my first IUI cycle When will you start the cycle??
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Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 18 April 2012 at 11:23am
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OMG Bugbug that is awesome news! Yay!
I am a little tempted to test - CD 32 today, so IF I had a normal 28 day cycle I would probably get a postive if I was. I would probably have to buy some more tests though - do you guys get yours cheap online? Great results Ceres - and goodluck for the 2WW - hopefully it flies by. ------------- After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10 DD1 Mar 11 After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13 DD2 Oct 13 |
Posted By: Ceres
Date Posted: 18 April 2012 at 1:40pm
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WOOT! Fantastic news Bugbug!! How exciting! Are you doing a natural or medicated IUI? Was thinking you must be CD5 today so not too late to start clomid if doing medicated?
Ariel .. test, test! I've got internet cheapies from tryingtoconceive.co.nz. They're quick, but not super quick, to deliver (they send free of charge from Australia). Biggest + is that they're super cheap though. Sorry frankie, no idea on the profile logout. Is there a FAQ somewhere on the site? Got my progesterone level back yesterday, at 2DPO it was sitting at 17. So definitely ovulated. And I *think* that's a reasonably good number too. Progesterone supplementation because my LP has never ever managed to last longer than 7 days though. So now I have all the high progesterone symptoms, and lingering hcg from ovidrel shot, that mimic pregnancy symptoms. So I can't even obsess about potential symptoms as it's more than likely it's just the drugs. End of 2WW needs to happen quickly! .------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> <
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Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 18 April 2012 at 2:21pm
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That's great news that you ovulated Ceres. I guess in some ways it's good that you can't obsess over potential symptoms - I do it all too often!
And thanks for that web page - I'm going to order 50 tests for just over $20 - that's such a good price! And for free delivery, even if they take a week that's not so bad. So you girls will just have to wait until they arrive! ------------- After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10 DD1 Mar 11 After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13 DD2 Oct 13 |
Posted By: bugbug
Date Posted: 18 April 2012 at 6:52pm
| yes day 5 today, but already anticipated an iui cycle so started clomid day 3. only 1 tablet a day this time... so will see what happens. first blood test sunday. had an appt to learn how to inject myself and get consent forms and stuff today. So it's all go! |
Posted By: Petunia
Date Posted: 18 April 2012 at 7:39pm
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Wahoo, go bugbug Awesome that you had the foresight to take the clomid!! Best of luck for this cycle
I have the same tests Ariel, I use them for OPK's as well, good deal huh. Hope it's a BFP!! All is sounding good Ceres, hurry up 2WW!!! I *think* the 2nd line OV on my OV test was slightly darker than normal today, CD 17, so we'll see what happens. |
Posted By: Ceres
Date Posted: 19 April 2012 at 11:47am
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Oooerrr Frankie, that sounds promising!
Bugbug, good work on starting clomid cd3! And good luck with the injectables. Yay Ariel, they do take about a week to arrive from my experience - hanging out for them to get to you now! hehe! ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> <
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Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 20 April 2012 at 12:05pm
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Hey girls,
Managed to find one of my pregnancy tests this morning so caved and POAS but a BFN  I'm surprised by how upset I am considering I didn't even think I was pregnant in the first place and only tested so I could stop wondering.
Good thing about 50 tests coming though is that I will be able to POAS all the time! Right, off to do some work, then maybe have lunch and if Abby is still sleeping might have a nap myself. Hope you girls are all having a donwerful day and if you are having good weather you are getting to enjoy it! ------------- After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10 DD1 Mar 11 After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13 DD2 Oct 13 |
Posted By: Ceres
Date Posted: 20 April 2012 at 12:55pm
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Sorry Ariel . Seeing 1 line never gets any easier, does it . Hopefully it's just a wee bit too early. Had to LOL at the 'donwerful day' though, I know you typo'd, but initially read that as 'downerful day' and thought, 'huh?, surely not ..'. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> <
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Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 20 April 2012 at 4:16pm
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Lol Ceres - I didn't even re-read my post at all! I will leave it there so you will all get a giggle like I did.
But yes, I hope you all have a wonderful day! ------------- After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10 DD1 Mar 11 After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13 DD2 Oct 13 |
Posted By: Petunia
Date Posted: 20 April 2012 at 4:54pm
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aww sorry about the BFN Ariel Ceres is right, they never get any easier. Big hugs x
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Posted By: bugbug
Date Posted: 22 April 2012 at 10:05am
| sorry too about the bfn ariel. In my 15 years (give or take) of ttcing, i've only ever taken 3 preggy tests myself. (2 of those, i was actually pregnant but lost 1). So you can see that i hate testing... at least if AF is not here and i haven't tested, i feel like there's some hope - so i'd rather not test! I still remember the disappointment of my first ever BFN (years before i ever got pregnant for the first time) and don't ever want to go through that again! crazy i know! |
Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 23 April 2012 at 2:21pm
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Wow bugbug, you have a lot of restraint!
Previous to getting my BFP I think I'd done four tests. But back then I didn't really believe I could get pregnant - so much worse now, knowing that I CAN get pregnant. Am feeling better now though, although AF STILL hasn't arrived - CD37 today *sigh* DD has been a right pain in the bum today - wouldn't go to sleep this morning (tears if we even walked into her bedroom) but I think she is FINALLY asleep - it's so exhausting sometimes! So, did you girls love being pregnant or just endured it to get the baby at the other end? I ask because I have two friends who hate being pregnant - one of whom just had her third bubs and won't have any more because of it. I LOVED being pregnant . Even though I had morning sickness until 18 weeks, then had giant elephant feet for the last 8 weeks - I just loved it. I loved not having to worry about my weight, I loved being able to wear comfortable clothes all the time (including to work) and I never got big and clunky, I always felt glowingly lovingly pregnant (although sometimes now I look back at photos and think maybe I SHOULD have worried more about what I was eating!). ------------- After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10 DD1 Mar 11 After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13 DD2 Oct 13 |
Posted By: Petunia
Date Posted: 23 April 2012 at 3:07pm
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Yes, a lot of restraint Bugbug!! I think I'd done probably about 10 before my BFP and since, err, possibly the same. Thank goodness for internet cheapies
Ariel, do you think she might be ready to drop to one sleep? That's what my DD did when she went to one sleep, just refused to go down in the morning. I loved being pregnant too. The anticipation of what was to come and the thought that I had a baby growing inside of me was just so wonderful. Towards the end I did find it a bit hard (physically) and I was pleased to not be pregnant once she was born but I have sooooo missed being pregnant! I still find myself touching my stomach randomly every now and then, old habits die hard I guess. |
Posted By: bugbug
Date Posted: 23 April 2012 at 6:23pm
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oooh yes i loved being pregnant too. Even though i too had really bad ms until 17 weeks. i think partly because i knew it was an amazing blessing to be pregnant because of all the infertility. It was very very hard on my body though and i still have issues, so why i want to do it again when i'm even closer to 40 i don't know!
had to tell my boss today why i needed to keep having time off as it was getting so difficult. didn't really want to as my friends don't even know, but had to be done. Tomorrow have more bloods, then scan so be interesting to see what 50mg of clomid does to me... (100 and 150 have been too much as i discovered in my clomid-only cycles) Also hoping i have an egg on the non-blocked side or i'm stuffed! |
Posted By: bugbug
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 6:03pm
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well my hopes were in vain... 2 eggs, but both on the blocked side so decided to abandon this cycle. apparently that doesn't count as 1 of my 4 cycles now - but i'm not getting any younger the longer it takes! but it does mean i can go to my nana's funeral on thursday so i'm not as upset about it as i otherwise would have been.
i wonder if i don't ovulate much on my left as that's why i'm not getting pregnant... anyway i guess we'll have more of an idea in a months time - seems such a long time! |
Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 6:30pm
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I so think having trouble getting pregnant makes you appreciate it so much more, even if you are sick and tired all the time. Might be different the second time around though - know a few friends who are finding it a bit tough at the moment because you can't just rest whenever you want and if you are still getting up in the night then you get really tired.
And I'm sorry bugbug
Glad though that there is a positive that you can go to your nanas funeral. I have my fingers crossed that next month you ovulate on your unblocked side! As for me, the inlaws have paid an unexpected visit - it's nice that they are making an effort to come and see Abby but it's put me out of wack a bit as I don't really feel like I can get out of the house as it's eating into their time with their granddaughter. They are lovely though, and only here for a couple of days. ------------- After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10 DD1 Mar 11 After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13 DD2 Oct 13 |
Posted By: Ceres
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 8:15pm
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Bugbug sorry to hear that you've got follies on the wrong side this month, and that you've had to disclose to your boss, I imagine that can't have been easy. And to have lost your Nana too, I'm really sorry. What a crap time of it. I'm glad you can see a positive in being able to attend the funeral though, and I'm crossing fingers tightly for you that next month the follies are on the left side!!
Ariel I'd second the though that maybe Abby is ready to drop to one nap. DD did just over a week ago, it's gone really well. She does one 2 hour nap over lunch typically now (although today she only slept an hour then was sooooooo grumpy and tired at 6pm she ended up in bed at 6.30pm). I had my MIL here too, we took DD to the park, so it was an excursion for all and we still got fresh air. Hopefully the next couple of days go quickly and things get back on track quickly! I loved being pregnant too, I didn't do a lot of sleeping through my pregnancy, needed a support belt, and had pretty awful heart burn - woke up vomiting with that frequently (though no morning sickness) - but it was a magic magic time. At the end I was pleased it was over, sooooo exciting to be able to, gasp, sleep on my tummy again , but I really really really hope I get to experience it again. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> <
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Posted By: blondie_2010
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 8:33pm
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Hi ladies,
I hope you don't mind if I join in.....I have one son who we conceived after trying for months and months before discovering I don't ovulate on my own (I have PCOS). We are now trying for our second and I am hoping we won't need any intervention...it's been 2 cycles so far and no BFP... Last time I got referred by my GP to the hospital so treatment was free but took about 3 months to get the first appointment. I think if we have the same issues this time we might just go private but I am not sure... |
Posted By: Petunia
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 9:04pm
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Oh bugbug that sucks So sorry to hear your cycle was cancelled and that your Nana has passed away. Hoping that next month the follies are on the unblocked side.
Not too long to go now Ceres!! Any signs/thoughts?? Hi Blondie2010! Of course you can post in here but I hope your posting is relatively shortlived (in the nicest possible way). As for me, I've decided to stop offering DD's mid afternoon BF, which will cut her down to 3 a day. First day today and she didn't ask and I didn't offer, she was fine! I'll just have to really persevere with getting more water into her to ensure she has enough liquid. No OV for me as yet, on day 24. Sigh..... |
Posted By: Ceres
Date Posted: 27 April 2012 at 9:47am
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Welcome Blondie, I hope your stay here isn't too long as well.
Good work on the weaning off one feed Frankie! Bugbug I meant to ask you, you're getting funding for the IUIs right? How does that work with having already had a child? I thought (obviously incorrectly) that you didn't qualify for funding until you'd been trying unsuccessfully for five years with a second child? Very interested though as I'm thinking we are in the same boat and are going to have to elevate our treatment to the more expensive options.. Cos' yeah, got a BFN this morning. Gutted but not totally unexpected. You really do wonder whether you're ever going to see those two lines again don't you. 1 May marks the six month point of trying with metformin/clomid again. I'd so hoped we wouldn't be going on the 'long' roller-coaster ride again but it is starting to dawn on me that it seems apparent we are .. ETA: I used a Discover test, so no chance I was testing too early. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> <
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Posted By: Petunia
Date Posted: 27 April 2012 at 9:24pm
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Yes I was wondering about funding if you already have one child, I'd have to lose weight to be considered though. I didn't mind forking out when I worked full time but now that I am a SAHM, paying is less appealing...
Totally know what you mean Ceres, everytime I test those "as if, why would that ever happen to you!" feelings come creeping back. Garrrr. Totally not fair that you're having to go through this again and six months is five months too long! Hope you are not too down about it.
I had a much darker line on my OPK tonight, very close to positive. Wonder if I am getting an LH surge but not necessarily ovulating? |
Posted By: bugbug
Date Posted: 28 April 2012 at 2:36pm
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re the funding, i wasn't eligible until they found out I had a blocked tube - that put my points high enough. So not really sure how it works apart from that. (i was put into the trying 3 to 4 years bracket)
Found out today via phone call from the doc that i have to go ahead with the cycles from now on, even if on blocked side which is kind of sucky as it really seems a bit pointless despite the fact that supposedly the eggs can migrate across. obviously not happening for me or it wouldn't take 3 years to get pregnant. so feeling a bit down about that. But at least i got to the funeral this month. Oh and if i want to go on ivf waiting list, i have to either do it now (and not do the iui's) or wait until all 4 cycles are complete and then go on the list only if i'm under 40 (and that might be pushing it). So gotta still try these iui's but that looks like it might be it... |
Posted By: Ceres
Date Posted: 28 April 2012 at 6:09pm
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Argh, very frustrating about the non-cancellation if the follie is on the wrong side bugbug. Could you pay privately for a scan to see what side it is on and then decide to go ahead with a publicly funded IUI then *if* it is on the right side?
Speaking of public funding, just found this: http://nationalwomenshealth.adhb.govt.nz/services/fertility/eligibility-for-public-funding#Accessing So, I was wrong on the 'one child no funding' thing. Pretty exciting! ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> <
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Posted By: bugbug
Date Posted: 28 April 2012 at 7:32pm
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Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 30 April 2012 at 1:05pm
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Sorry I haven’t been on in a while – it has been a hectic week!
Abby is still all over the place with her day sleeps and it’s driving me bonkers! Not helped by the fact that she seems to think 5am is an appropriate time to start the day. Today I got her up and when DH got up at 7am I handed her to him and said I was going back to bed! Which I did until 8.15am when she woke me up – I suspect DH put her down for a nap and I imagine she was probably happy enough to have a sleep until she pooed! Ah well, just need to be grateful for the extra hour of sleep. Welcome blondie! And like the other girls, hope your stay here is short. Good job Frankie (aka Petunia) on dropping that mid afternoon BF. I felt I was doing really well on dropping the feeds but as Abby has been waking in the night recently (darn teeth!) I have been feeding her back to sleep – so even though we are down to only two day feeds, sometimes she gets 2-3 in the night! Any sign of OV yet Frankie? on the BFN Ceres. Even knowing it could take a while doesn’t make the wait any easier.
I remember looking into the funding thing when I was still pregnant with DD (as it is always possible we will have to go that route) – it is nice to know there is that option, but I’m not sure if mentally I could “try” for five years (if we had to, to get the points). That sucks bugbug you can’t cancel this cycle – also think it sucks you can’t go on IVF waiting list yet – how long do you have before you turn 40 and have to be on the waiting list? As for me, CD44 today – as I’ve previously had some 60 day cycles I’ve decided I could possibly be ovulating around CD46 so for the next few days will make sure the BD’ing gets done (even if I am exhausted!). Oh, and my 50 tests turned up – haven’t used any yet – will wait until after CD60 I think, the last BFN was a bit hard on me and for now I’d rather have that hope. Ok, better make the most of the fact my daughter has FINALLY gone to sleep and do some work. ------------- After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10 DD1 Mar 11 After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13 DD2 Oct 13 |
Posted By: Ceres
Date Posted: 30 April 2012 at 1:41pm
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Oh yes, I forgot to mention that was exciting about the OPK Frankie, 2WW time?!
Ariel sorry to hear about the early start, wouldn't wish that on anyone! With the night settles, have you tried have your DH go in to resettle her (just thinking, if you're trying to wean - it might be helpful to getting her to resettle without boob - we did it and it took two weeks total to get her night weaned. Now if she wakes with teeth or sickness she'll resettle without a drink (or if she has a cold we'll give her some water, but that's more to help with hydration) fairly quickly. Not to say it would work for every baby, but DD would *not* resettle without a BF for me - but for dad, no problem. Once she stopped associating night waking with a BF she was fine for me to resettle her without a feed. Could be worth a go? Just waiting for the call now to say it's an official BFN. I'm going to book DH in for a SA this week whilst waiting for AF to decide whether to do another clomid round or start working out where to from here. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> <
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Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 30 April 2012 at 2:09pm
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We have tried DH settling her and she just cries for him - it is far quicker and easier for me to settle her. I don't always feed her - sometimes a quick cuddle is all she needs and I'll pop her back into bed. Other times I'll offer her water first, but probably 50% of the time she just gets really upset until I BF her. She has me wound around her little finger!
She was night weaned but when we went away at Easter she was really unsettled so I fed her in the night, and then by the time we got back some big teeth down the bottom (for DD, teeth numbers 9 and 10) were coming through so she's just been really unsettled in the night - waking 4-5 times some nights. I'm just going to have to bite the bullet I think and just refuse to feed her in the night - need to wait for a quiet patch at work so I'm not worrying about having to work while exhausted. What do you think the options are going forward Ceres? ------------- After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10 DD1 Mar 11 After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13 DD2 Oct 13 |
Posted By: Petunia
Date Posted: 30 April 2012 at 6:18pm
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That's good news about funding for a 2nd child Ceres, I just assumed that there was no funding too! Sorry about the BFN is it as hard getting a BFN when you're having treatment as it was with number one?
Bugbug that seems really silly to go ahead with a cycle when it's unlikely you'll ovulate, waste of public money really! Hopefully you'll strike it lucky next IUI. Ariel, we got DH to go in and resettle DD when we were trying to night wean. She did cry a bit but I think 5 minutes was the longest we had to leave her to cry. It only took 3 nights and she hasn't woken in the night since, except for once when we were away from home. It's a hard one isn't it. Am sure you'll get there one way or the other. I got an positive OPK on Sat night so made the most of it . Probably too late in the cycle though, it was day 25 (I had been 2 days ahead of myself when I posted late last week, duh!) and last cycle was 34 days so not sure if we wasted our time or not, but worth a try.
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Posted By: bugbug
Date Posted: 30 April 2012 at 7:27pm
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in answer to the question above - i'll turn 40 at about a week after my 4th cycle finishes - really really bad timing! (that's only an estimate at this stage but probably pretty close, not helped by the fact that clomid makes my cycles longer than the usual 26 days). so really really hoping one of these IUI's work, considering that if i'm ovulating on the wrong side each time then it's pretty unlikely. sigh.
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Posted By: frankie
Date Posted: 01 May 2012 at 7:45am
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Bye bye Petunia - Frankie's back!!
Oh that is so unfair bugbug. I will cross my fingers that you'll have luck with the IUI! ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: blondie_2010
Date Posted: 04 May 2012 at 12:54pm
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I have asked this in charting thread too but thought you girls would possibly know more....
Hi ladies, Hoping someone will be able to help me in here....I have PCOS and conceived my first child using clomid after doctor said I didn't ovulate on my own. We are now trying for number 2 naturally. I think I may be ovulating on my own and that maybe the tests I had done were inaccurate because I was tested too early (my cycles are around 38 days long). So about 10 days ago my CM turned watery...then 2 days ago I had a positive OPK on CD24 (which I have NEVER had before). Today I have loads of EWCM (CD 26). So a couple of things: We have been BDing every 2nd day for the last 12 days (yesterday was the last time as I thought the positive OPK meant I was about to ovulate that day). Now that I have EWCM do we need to BD again today? My poor hubby is over it, lol, so only want to if we need to IYKWIM. Secondly, do you think maybe I have always ovulated on my own but just thought I didn't as doctors tend to test you on CD21? Would appreciate any thoughts or comments. Thanks :) |
Posted By: frankie
Date Posted: 04 May 2012 at 3:00pm
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Hey Blondie, yes I would BD tonight also. When you get a positive OPK it means ovulation is imminent within 12 - 36 hours so it is worth doing it tonight. You may have already ovulated or you may not have, so it's worth a try. Know your DH feels, we feel like that too but I always try to take the attitude that this one last BD might be the one....
I'm wondering myself about your 2nd question too, I've been getting positive OPK's around day 25 and now I'm wondering if perhaps I was always a late ovulater. Interesting huh. Hope this last BD does the trick
How's everyone else getting on? I'm just waiting for AF to show, or a reason to test! About CD 31 I think, last cycle was 34 days. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 06 May 2012 at 11:57pm
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Welcome back Frankie!
And blondie, I would bd too (although that advice is probably a bit late now!) I can't even remember what CD I'm on now, maybe CD49? I check my book every three/four days and update it. Will wait to CD61 to test as I've had a few 60 day cycles and it seems like such a waste (although I guess not so bad when you have 50 tests sitting there!). Am awake because DD won't go to sleep - I'm sure if I fed her she would, but I'm really trying not to. ------------- After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10 DD1 Mar 11 After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13 DD2 Oct 13 |