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Topic: Clomd Pill Poppers
Posted By: skiltz
Subject: Clomd Pill Poppers
Date Posted: 10 September 2012 at 9:40pm
New thread as the other one has some "issues" -

You can still read the old thread by going to  http://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/topic10938_page568.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/topic10938_page568.html



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Posted By: Mumma2be
Date Posted: 10 September 2012 at 9:43pm
Perfect thanks! :-)


Posted By: ThistleFern
Date Posted: 11 September 2012 at 8:57pm
Thanks skiltz!

How's everyone doing now? Mumma2be - Sorry I can't give any advice on what to do after clomid for your short luteal phase. I hope someone can help you out with some info there.
Kerny - how's this month going since the HSG?
Soda - hope you're settling in to your new home now. Will keep my fingers crossed that all the distractions have had a positive effect.

No news with me. I'm unmonitored this cycle. Will have day 21 bloods but no scans etc as I wanted to have a break from it all. Trying to decide whether to try IUI next month. We're still quite busy with unpacking etc (yes, we have bought this place Kerny so it's pretty exciting). We also pick up puppy on Friday. In fact, we've decided to take one of her litter-mates too so we'll have two! Can't wait!

Good luck this month ladies :-)


Posted By: _Soda_
Date Posted: 12 September 2012 at 8:57pm
oh i was wondering where this thread went! hi all! Thistle yay for a new house! nothing like owning your own home Smile we are settled now but still a bit of a mess in the spare room..but i just close the door and walk away lol. will get onto it eventually. itll be babys room once we have number 2, so itll be unpacked eventually lol. and ohhh a puppy! what kind do you have?? i have a cat who would hate a dog in the house so we cant get one until she dies which probably wont be for another 10 years knowing her.. love puppies!  who knows? you might get a surprise BFP before you have a chance to do IUI!! hope so! x x Kerny how are you going?
Im around 6dpo now and just waiting waiting waiting to be able to test lol. i only temped the last few days so dont know my exact ov date, but my temps are higher than they have ever been- even with my BFP chart with my DD! so hoping that means the clomid is really doing its thing this cycle Star question- does anyone else have random days while on clomid where you cant help but eat and eat and eat?? i had one of those days yesterday it was shocking..i ate SOOO MUCH!! im back to my old self today but gee whiz it was pretty insane.. thinking it was my crazy post ov hormones? i see on my BFP chart that on 5dpo i had extreme hunger too..and i havent noted that on any other chart.. so hoping its a good sign? i know, you arent meant to have any weird things happen until after implantation so not holding my breath. but it could be connected to my hormone levels perhaps? weird anyways... will keep you posted! :)


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Posted By: ThistleFern
Date Posted: 13 September 2012 at 12:04pm
Soda - I have a quick and random question for you if that's ok? One of my friends is convinced that she has PCOS as her cycles are all over the place (she's currently on day 42 of this one!) and she has some of the other symptoms. She's just had bloods done to check and the doc says they look fine but we just want to know exactly what they'd expect to see. Can you remember what yours were like when you were diagnosed? Did you have them on a particular CD because obviously she has no idea where she is in her cycle so can't relate the results to anything.
I just thought you might be able to offer some advice/info given what you've been through? Thanks in advance, TF xx


Posted By: kerny
Date Posted: 17 September 2012 at 8:10pm
Hi girls! It's been a while - I couldn't find the forum and then I've been in Australia at a conference. Was really good and DH came over for the weekend which was nice. We got home today and I am now really tired.

Since I had my HSG this cycle, I've been so much more relaxed. Had a few drinks over in OZ, been drinking a bit of coffee and not worried as much about taking my temps. It has been nice not to stress about it all. I plan to get back into it all next cycle.     

Thistlefern - 2 puppies that is so awesome! Hope you are getting through the unpacking. We are also thinking about IUI. It won't be this cycle coming due to work commitments but possibly the following cycle.   The specialist hasn't really been able to explain how it would help with our issues (which appear to be with implantation and endometrium lining) so we are quite reluctant to spend the money and get our hopes up if it is unlikely to help. I am finding it quite hard to decide what to do. Have you decided for certain?

Soda - glad to hear you are all settled. Awesome about your temps. Got my FX for you.     


Posted By: ThistleFern
Date Posted: 18 September 2012 at 9:16am
Great to have you back kerny! Sounds like you've had a lovely relaxing month. It's good to take a break from it all now and again.

We've still not decided about IUI. Things are a bit full-on with the new house and the puppies so we may put it off for a couple of months. Will let you know.
It's interesting that your issue may be with implantation and lining. Why do they think that? Is it because of your spotting? That's the only explanation I can come up with for us struggling too. My circulation is pretty bad and I have some fluid retention in my lower legs so wonder if the blood supply to my uterus and lining is a bit rubbish. I've been going to a massage therapist for a few months to see if we can get things moving and make it all nice down there for a baby :-) It's worth a try! AF has been heavier since I started doing that so surely that's a good sign? Like you, if that is the problem I can't see how IUI would help and it may be a waste of money for us.

Soda - how's the symptom spotting going? Is your ticker correct in saying CD2? I hope not!


Posted By: kerny
Date Posted: 18 September 2012 at 9:12pm
TF - to be honest the specialist hasn't really said definitely that is what the issue is but when I raised it with him (and also the acupuncturist) they both agreed that it could be that. I have pretty bad circulation too. And I just read about how sitting down a lot, which I do at work all day, can mean that there is not enough blood flow where it needs to go. That is good about the massage therapist and AF increasing - the same thing happened with me and acupuncture. I think that it is a good sign - it means the lining is building and then shedding properly. I think we are pretty definite about not doing IUI. The specialist has referred us for public funding for some other drug treatment which would cost about $3k to do privately so we might wait for that. I really want to move onto something before Christmas though. I hate feeling like time is just slipping away!    


Posted By: ThistleFern
Date Posted: 20 September 2012 at 5:23pm
kerny - what does the other drug treatment involve? Is it likely to give you more of a chance than IUI? I know what you mean about time slipping away. It feels like everything takes so long and we just go from cycle to cycle, waiting and waiting (and getting older - I'll be 38 in a few months so time is definitely running out). How long have you been TTC now? (you probably said ages ago and I can't remember)

I had my progesterone BT today and it was 107 so just the same as usual. Nothing changes really. I'm CD22 today so 9 days to wait!


Posted By: kerny
Date Posted: 21 September 2012 at 9:54pm
TF - I think the other drugs are injections, I think they are called gonadotropins. My understanding is that they are still used to induce ovulation but I am hoping that the hormones might stop the spotting. We will have been off contraception for 2 years and have been getting treatment for a year. I am a little bit younger (I turn 31 in March). The doctors keeps saying that I am still relatively young but I am worried as being younger it should be easier to get pregnant. I am worried that as time goes on it is going to get harder and harder and our chances will get smaller and smaller.

It is day 1 for me. We weren't really trying last cycle since I had the HSG. We aren't on any drugs or anything this cycle but are going to try to eat healthy, not drink and (most importantly) BD at the right time.    

Hope the next 9 days go speedily for you. FX!


Posted By: kerny
Date Posted: 26 September 2012 at 8:21pm
Hi girls. How are you getting on?


Posted By: ThistleFern
Date Posted: 01 October 2012 at 12:45pm
Not sure if any of you are still on here.
Kerny - How are things going for you being clomid-free this cycle?
AF arrived for me yesterday and we've decided to stop the clomid too. I'd been on it for 4 months with no luck so thought I'd see how my body copes being off it. We've decided not to go ahead with IUI for now and just wait for IVF early next year. I'll do all the usual stuff of eating healthily, no alcohol, no caffeine and just try to focus on the new house and puppies and see how it goes.
I'm not sure I belong anywhere on this forum now which is quite sad as it's good to chat to people and see how everyone's doing. Maybe it would still be nice to update anyway? Or maybe we should start a general infertility thread for those of us who are just plodding along and not trying anything in particular?
Good luck to you all.


Posted By: monkeys
Date Posted: 01 October 2012 at 2:39pm
hey guys!! thought I would pop in and say hi... on a fully monitored cycle this month, with today being CD2, so start pill popping from tomorrow. Also on metformin, high dose folic acid and baby aspirn to hopefully make the next one a sticky one
Hope everyone is doing OK xx

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3 little Angels July 10, May 11, Apr 13


Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 02 October 2012 at 12:27pm
I'm officially going to be in here soon - next week I'll start taking the pill to bring on AF later in the month, and then after Labour Weekend I'll start popping! I'm excited to finally be doing something instead of just waiting!

Any tips? I've heard mention that taking it at night lessens any side effects, is there anything else I should know?


ThistleFern - I hung out in here all the time when TTC the first time around and I never popped one clomid pill, it was just a nice place to hang out and chat with others who knew what going through infertility was like.

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: monkeys
Date Posted: 02 October 2012 at 2:51pm
That would be my big tip Ariel - to take it at night, I had the odd hot flush but that was all. I know what you mean it is great when you get to start doing something proactive rather than just waiting - also are you doing a monitored cycle? If so I find the 2 weeks before OV fly by with popping the pills, then bloods then scan etc - unfortunately though I haven't found a way to make the TWW go quicker!!


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3 little Angels July 10, May 11, Apr 13


Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 02 October 2012 at 7:27pm
Thanks monkeys. I'm only doing a Reviewed Cycle - so just day 21 prog - unless my first cycle doing that shows up anything alarming. I was surprised the Dr didn't want to do a monitored but I guess perhaps 50mg isn't a huge dose?

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: kerny
Date Posted: 02 October 2012 at 10:11pm
TF - sorry to hear about AF. It is nice to have a break from the drugs, blood tests and scans for a while but also good to have IVF next year. Hopefully you won't need it though. I think you definitely should keep posting on here even though you aren't on clomid anymore - I plan to, as long as no one minds? I am really happy with this cycle - no spotting before ovulation for the first time in months and months. So stoked - I hope its a good sign.

Welcome Ariel! Yep, I agree definitely take it at night. The only thing I found was that I got a bit emotional - but it is hard to tell if it was the clomid or just TTC in general. Were you taking anything when you got pregnant with your DD?       


Posted By: ThistleFern
Date Posted: 03 October 2012 at 9:51am
I think I will hang around here for a little while. It's good to have the support :-)
Monkeys - Good luck with the monitored cycle this month. Sounds like they're doing everything possible to help it stick this time. Sorry about your losses. You're right about the first two weeks going quickly with all the tests and scans (epsecially if you're like me and had to have LH/oestradiol bloods taken every day for a week to check for ov!) The TWW is painfully slow though. Distraction is the key!
Ariel - I think I only had a day 21 test when I started out on 50mg and when that didn't do anything they increased it to 100mg and started doing scans too. I took Clomid during the day and didn't have any side effects at all so I don't really have any tips. If anything I was probably better on it than not so I'm a little bit worried about what this drug-free cycle has in store.
Kerny- Great news about the lack of spotting this month! Hopefully everything is on track now. Good luck!


Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 03 October 2012 at 10:46am
Kerny - I wasn't taking anything when we got our BFP for our DD - it was a big surprise as we had just been told a couple of weeks earlier that we would need IVF by our public gynae and the week we got our BFP we received our letter for our first appointment with FA.

Thanks ThistleFern - it's good to know that a reviewed cycle is normal, I've heard mostly about fully monitored ones. And yay for hanging around!

I hope the 50mg is enough to get things going properly - at this stage all I really want is to have a nice regular 28 day cycle and know I have ovulated somewhere around day 14. Of course, I'm now all excited (and nervous!) because my next cycle might be the one where we get UTD and I think a BFN will be that much more disappointing.

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: ThistleFern
Date Posted: 03 October 2012 at 11:20am
Ariel - 50mg may be enough for you, especially if you already ovulate on your own and just need it to be a bit more regular. Fingers crossed that you don't have to wait long for that BFP. It is awful when you get your hopes up only to get a BFN. A couple of months ago I had a really good cycle and got what seemed to be implantation bleeding for the first time ever so when AF arrived on time it was even more disappointing that normal.
That's a great story about your DD. Did you do anything differently that month that may have helped?


Posted By: monkeys
Date Posted: 03 October 2012 at 2:32pm
some people find 50mg is fine, others its too much or not enough. From reading lots of forum topics on it a very generalised view is that FS normally do fully monitored cycles at least for a few to monitor your response rate, and also to tell you to cancel a cycle if you have too many follies to avoid more than twins(has happened to me once), where as Gynes and Drs that prescribe it tend to only do the day 21 prog

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3 little Angels July 10, May 11, Apr 13


Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 03 October 2012 at 4:04pm
My cycles are all over the place (from 32 to 70+ day cycles) so sometimes I don't ovulate, which is why the Clomid will hopefully help me ovulate every cycle. When I do ovulate, it's often not CD14 - with DD I worked out I'd ovulated on day CD40! I know we are hugely lucky to have fallen pregnant with DD naturally but there is obviously something hinky going on with me, and it would be nice to know what it is - I had always hoped for a large family but now I'll consider myself really lucky if I get a sibling for DD (of course I already feel blessed having one).

ThistleFern - The things we did differently in the couple of months leading up to our BFP were
-> I changed jobs (I was quite stressed in my previous job)
-> I lost about five kilos (exercise and diet)
-> DH and I went on a health kick where we cut out caffeine and alcohol, ate mostly organic fruits/veges, cut out trans fats (so no takeaways and very few commercially baked goods (bread, biscuits, chips etc)), avoided soy, and only had full-fat dairy (so no lite milk etc)
-> Replaced a lot of our plastic food storage containers with glass, and bought BPA free drink bottles.

If I personally had to pinpoint anything, I would say firstly reducing stress (which I did by changing jobs) - I'm sure if we are stressed out that our body isn't going to be concentrating on making babies, just on survival, and secondly, the weight loss - there is lots of evidence to suggest a loss of weight if you are overweight/obese can help with fertility.

Of course, the fertility doctors would probably say it was just time - even though DH has sub-par swimmers and I don't always ovulate, eventually, given time, they think we should probably fall pregnant by ourselves - it's just how much time, and how much worse are DH's swimmers and my cycles going to get as we grow older.


Monkeys - that's interesting. I am going through FA, but I think our Dr is quite relaxed - I wonder if that is partly because neither DH or I expressed any alarm when he mentioned twins being a side effect of clomid and I have already had a relatively complication free pregnancy and birth (so although there would be added complications, we at least already know that I can carry a singleton with no real problems). I would however hate the decisions that would come with three or more embryos.

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: weetie
Date Posted: 03 October 2012 at 6:24pm
hi everyone - have been checking in on the thread from time to time but thought no one was posting lol .... teach me for only having the thread on my bookmarks huh?

Day 14 here - no clomid this month or for the past couple of months. Things are too stressful here and thought it was better to step away from the whole "omg I must get pregnant now" stage.... but its still very much on my mind all the same. My birthday next month and I really thought i would have had a bub by now ... not still ttc. Would make for an awesome bday present but don't know. Think I might ring and get a repeat script off the specialist and try clomid again now things are calming down here again.

Hope everyone is well!


Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 04 October 2012 at 1:46pm
Weetie, it is a pain that they had to change the thread! And this one is missing the "i" from Clomid

I definitely thought I'd be pregnant by now *sigh* - I don't know what I'll do if we don't get pregnant on these three cycles of clomid. Like you weetie, probably take a break - the constantly focussing on TTC definitely does your head in!

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: monkeys
Date Posted: 04 October 2012 at 2:34pm
I would LOVE twins Ariel!! Not triplets though which is why the 3 follies was a bit scary!

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3 little Angels July 10, May 11, Apr 13


Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 05 October 2012 at 9:05am
Gosh, three follies would be scary - you hear enough stories of people with two who then end up with triplets because one of the eggs splits, let alone starting off with three! I watched an American One Born Every Minute the other day with Quads - she managed to carry them to 34 weeks and although little I thought the babies were quite a good size for being multiples and prem.

DH and I would quite like twins, but the FA Dr was saying there are 4-10 times as many complications with twins which is definitely scary too.

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 05 October 2012 at 9:06am
Oh, and received a copy of the letter the FA Dr sent to the GP - it pretty much says he doesn't think the clomid will do a lot for my cycles (which sucks) but he also says he doesn't think we'll need to go as far as IVF (which is awesome!).

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: monkeys
Date Posted: 05 October 2012 at 11:27am
Yeah our Dr at FAH really doesn't want us to have twins because of the higher risks and our history of MC.
That is not cool abou the clomid - hopefully you prove them wrong!! FX if it doesn't do the trick then IUI does (guessing that would be your next step). A friend had no luck on Clomid but is happily UTD now after only 2 months of IUI xxx

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3 little Angels July 10, May 11, Apr 13


Posted By: kerny
Date Posted: 06 October 2012 at 9:38pm
Hi everyone - hope you are all having a nice weekend.

Good to hear from you weetie. Sorry that things are stressful. I hope that they calm down again soon.

AFM - day 16 and I think I ovulated today or am just about to. Unfortunately, I was naughty and had a bit of a blow out last night. I've had a really busy few months at work and ended up having a few drinks to celebrate it all being over - a few too many as it ended up. I have had a hangover all day today. It is the first time in ages and it has reminded me why drinking too much is dumb! So I don't have huge hopes for this cycle and feel a bit like I've only got myself to blame. The only positive thing is that at least I've got it out of my system before we move onto the next stage with FA. How do you girls find cutting out alcohol coffee etc?     

edited for typo


Posted By: Mrs Impatient
Date Posted: 07 October 2012 at 8:45am
Hi Girls
I'm new to this, so hope you don't mind me jumping in. It's so good to be able relate to so many of these posts as it is a lonely path when all friends and family seem to have no issues getting pregnant. I work full time and my husband does shift work, and I also had a blow out on Friday night and had a few drinks, I think because I knew I had my period and all the stress of trying to conceive makes me want to take advantage and drown my sorrows for a night. My 35th birthday this month and really thought I would have had a baby by now and not still trying to conceive. Have been told I have to loose another 4 kg's before the Dr will start any treatment for me, even though I am paying for it as my BMI will still be too high for public funding. So frustrating and I get depressed at the thought of having to loose this weight and then I get angry and stressed with the pressure. Not a great cycle, but am trying to stay positive and not let getting pregnant take over my thoughts 100% of the time, hard though.


Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 08 October 2012 at 11:48am
Hi Kerny - I find cutting out all alcohol and caffiene really hard. This is my last cycle before starting clomid so I have been having a glass of wine with dinner most nights as from next cycle I think I'll just stop altogether. Like Mrs Impatient, I will often have more than a couple of drinks when AF arrives...

Welcome Mrs Impatient. Most of my friends I've had for a while, and family, don't have any trouble getting pregnant either, and it's so hard to relate when they talk about accidentally getting pregnant, or when they start scheduling to get pregnant at a certain time. I have made some friends more recently who do have trouble getting pregnant too and it's SO nice to be able to talk to someone who understands.

I also have to lose weight, although I think I'm probably still in the right range for public treatment - my FA Dr just thinks it will help with my cycles/fertility immensley (sp?), but it is so hard to get motivated. DH keeps telling me I should go for walks or runs more often but it can be so hard to find the time - and I know I make a lot of excuses and I should just MAKE the time but sometimes the last thing I want to do is exercise.

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: Mrs Impatient
Date Posted: 08 October 2012 at 7:34pm
Hi ArielAngel
Yes, I enjoy my coffee too, don't find it too hard to cut out the alcohol, just find that I hit it hard when AF arrives because I know I can and I'm usually upset that I have had another unsuccessful month. Congratulations on your DD! I hope you are successful with a sibling for her soon
Do you have any syptoms from clomid?


Posted By: ThistleFern
Date Posted: 08 October 2012 at 10:26pm
It must have been a weekend for blow outs as I had a few on Sat night too. Well I say "blow out" but it was only 5 glasses of wine which was enough to give me a terrible hangover yesterday since I've barely had any alcohol over the past 3-4 months. I've not missed it too much. I've switched to decaf coffee too but I read that's not so good because of the way they remove the caffeine. Anyone know anything about this?
Not had the best day today. We decided to rehome one of our puppies as two was just too much. Not an easy decision and really hope the other one will be ok on her own.
Welcome Mrs Impatient. You'll find that we all totally understand how you're feeling. It's so difficult. I know how you feel about the age thing too. I'm 37 and thought I'd have a couple of kids by now but haven't managed one yet! How long have you been TTC?


Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 09 October 2012 at 11:22am
Bugger - wrote a long post then lost it! (so, just briefly...)

Thanks Mrs Impatient.

Haven't started Clomid yet, will be my next cycle - will take at night and hopefully avoid any horrid side effects.

Sorry you had to rehome a puppy ThistleFern, it's never easy losing a pet *hugs*

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: Mrs Impatient
Date Posted: 09 October 2012 at 7:11pm
Hi ThistleFern
I'm so sorry you had to rehome one of your puppies, but I bet the new family will look after him/her and love them very much. I love my fur baby (kitty)
Been TTC since March 2011, how about you?
What are you trying at the moment?
Anyone done IUI yet?


Posted By: monkeys
Date Posted: 10 October 2012 at 8:03am
Hi ladies! Nice to see some chat in here! I had my first bloods for the cycle yesterday with more tomorrow and a scan tomorrow, really hope
For a couple of nice big juicy follies!
Haven't done IUI yet but a good friend had a few clomid unsuccessful clomid cycles but got UTD on their 2nd IUI

Sorry about the puppy, would be such a hard decision to make, hope
Your other one is doing ok.
I have been ok cutting out coffee as long as I have my trim decaf latte each morning
Lol, makes me feel like I am still having it. Can't do the plunger decaf though, lucky I had a nespresso at home so i just have their decaf pods. Apparently if the decaf is
Water pressed its ok which I know the Robert Harris plunger is

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3 little Angels July 10, May 11, Apr 13


Posted By: ThistleFern
Date Posted: 10 October 2012 at 12:16pm
Mrs Impatient - I'm not trying anything at the moment. We've had a couple of cycles with 50mg clomid and 4 of 100mg with no luck so having a break for now. We were considering IUI but things are a bit full-on for us at the moment with the puppy (and a new house) and we're not ready to spend money on something that may not work for unexplained infertility. We've been TTC since Feb 2010 and qualify for IVF early next year so may hold out for that.
Monkeys - Good luck with the bloods and scan. I'm sure there will be a couple of lovely follicles there. It's always pretty cool seeing them on the screen as it gives you hope. Thanks for the info on the water-pressed decaf coffee. Good to know.

The remaining puppy has been missing her brother terribly for the past couple of days so there's much barking going on. I really hope she settles down. He's doing ok as he's gone to a home with an older dog for company. He'll have forgotten us already!


Posted By: weetie
Date Posted: 10 October 2012 at 5:48pm
omg I cannot give up coffee!!! I don't find not drinking alcohol a problem as we very seldom drink anyway. Stress levels will hopefully reduce dramatically as we are leaving this job (stress levels get over the top and our lives come a distant last to everything!) 8 months until we move back to our own home so is a really exciting venture!

Sad to hear about having to rehome a member of your family Thistlefern - we may yet have to do this and I am really not looking forward to it. They become family too easily huh?

Day 21 here and I feel like I have been slapped with pms big time today. One of those days when everything is annoying and frustrating!!!


Posted By: Mrs Impatient
Date Posted: 10 October 2012 at 6:23pm
HI Weetie - I know those days well, and actually get menstral migraines most months, although this month just gone wasn't bad.
Although I am not on clomid I jumped onto this thread as there seems to be lots of ladies in the similar sort of position I am in.
Have unexplained infertility, which is frustrating but hoping for success this month. We have our second appointment with FA in November and I am hoping we can start some treatment then to get us moving
Monkeys - Good luck, fingers crossed for you
Thistlefern - Fair enough. What does the clomid actually do? Do they usually suggest this first? We were going to ask to go straight into IUI


Posted By: ThistleFern
Date Posted: 11 October 2012 at 1:43pm
Mrs Impatient - Clomid isn't generally given to help unexplained fertility. It helps more with those who have known problems with ovulation/irregular cycles/PCOS. It helps to release more FSH/LH to stimulate the follicles to grow, rupture and release the egg. If you already ovulate fine then it most likely won't help. It might put you at risk of over-stimulation and you could release too many eggs. I was only given it because I was misdiagnosed as having endo by a surgeon during my laparoscopy and was given treatment that stopped my cycles completely for 8 months so we were trying to bring them back. Now that things seem fine I'm trying to see if I can ovulate on my own again.
That was all probably a bit long-winded, sorry!
Your FA may be happy for you to try IUI first instead. Unexplained infertility is a complete pain in the arse! If you don't know what's wrong it's difficult to fix. So annoying!

Weetie - Hope the PMS calms down and you're able to find time to relax and also hope you don't have to rehome your fur baby. We didn't have ours very long and he was already part of the family.


Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 11 October 2012 at 3:23pm
Hope your scan went well today Monkeys.

Mrs Impatient - I don't have regular cycles and am sometimes anovulatory (sp?) so I'm on clomid to see if that helps with regularity and ovulation.

Weetie, changing my job is one of the things I credited in regards to getting pregnant last time - hope the next 8 months flies by.

As for me, day two on progesterone (sp?) - no crazy hormonal stuff yet I don't think - do you get that on the prog or just clomid?



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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: Mrs Impatient
Date Posted: 11 October 2012 at 7:41pm
OK, thanks for that, hopefully just get straight into IUI then
Been crazy busy at work and working late every night but strangely feeling quite relaxed and positive this month


Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 12 October 2012 at 7:17pm
IUI is our next step - we have both my issues and male factor infertility.

I love those months where you feel relaxed and positive - it's just so much easier than being obsessed all the time. I'm feeling that way this month - not that I think we'll get pregnant, but because next cycle might be a really good shot (next month I'll be crazy and obsessive! lol).

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: kerny
Date Posted: 12 October 2012 at 9:17pm
Hi everyone. Hope that you have had a good week. Yippee! It is Friday.

Thistlefern - it's really interesting what you said about clomid not being used for unexplained infertility. When I first went to FA they put me on clomid even though it wasn't clear what the issue is (and still don't). I think the Dr said at the time that we could just start on clomid and see if that does the trick or do lots of tests and try to find out what is wrong first. At the time, I was just really keen to try any treatment that might help so I started straight on clomid but in retrospect it might have been better to wait a bit as I don't think clomid really helped at all as I ended up with a thin endometrium.

I am very happy - after pestering FA for ages they have finally confirmed that my letter about getting public funded treatment is in the mail which hopefully means that we can get started on that next cycle. I trying not to get my hopes up this month because of my big night last week and because we were pretty useless at BDIng at the right time.

Monkey - hope your scan went well.

Have a great weekend everyone :)    


Posted By: kerny
Date Posted: 12 October 2012 at 9:19pm
PS I have been a bit better with the coffee this week. Only had hot choc and decaf and not even every day. Drinking was OK but I had a cheeky drink last night with a friend and then one after work today. I must do better next cycle!


Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 15 October 2012 at 9:26am
I hope everyone had a fantastic weekend.

Ours was busy tidying up the house and sorting out a few things so it just flew by.

Kerny, that's great that your letter for public funding is on it's way, and great work on the caffeine front.

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: monkeys
Date Posted: 15 October 2012 at 10:24am
hi all!! Thought I had replied but maybe not!! Had one big Follie at the scan, so its been all systems go in our house - got a positive OV test yesterday and today had a big temp drop so looks like OV is today, FX we have done enough!

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3 little Angels July 10, May 11, Apr 13


Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 15 October 2012 at 11:29am
That's great about OV monkeys! FX you caught that eggie!

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: Mrs Impatient
Date Posted: 15 October 2012 at 5:12pm
Yay Monkeys FX for you

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Posted By: ThistleFern
Date Posted: 16 October 2012 at 12:42pm
Monkeys - Excellent news about your big follie and OV. FX for this month!
Kerny - Has your letter about the public funding arrived? What's your next step?

Where's everyone at in their cycle now? I'm CD17 but because I'm having no monitoring and not on Clomid this month I've no idea what's going on (which is kind of nice in a way) Planning to go for progesterone test on Friday so will see if anything actually happened on its own.


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TTC since Feb '10
Unexplained infertility


Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 17 October 2012 at 8:18am
Hey all,

I'm on CD24 today - five more prog pills (over next two and half days) and then just waiting for AF to arrive. Feeling quite nervous now just because this coming month will be the best chance we've had in a while.

Crap! Just realised that DH is away in November and if AF is late in arriving then he'll be away bang in the middle of expected OV time! Have worked out I need to get AF by this time next week, FX!

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: ThistleFern
Date Posted: 17 October 2012 at 10:20am
Good luck with the timing Ariel. Hope it all goes to plan. Have you noticed any difference being on the progesterone?

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TTC since Feb '10
Unexplained infertility


Posted By: Mumma2be
Date Posted: 17 October 2012 at 8:01pm
Feeling gutted, spotting tonight so time for us to take the next step. HSG this month and have a rest from Clomid, then IUI the following month. Feeling like it will never happen. Does anyone know if you can reqest to still have monitoring on a non-Clomid cycle to see what the body is up to on its own?


Posted By: kerny
Date Posted: 17 October 2012 at 9:59pm
Hi all. Hope you having a good week.

Monkeys - good to hear about your scan and positive OPK. FX for you!

Mumma2be - sorry to hear about the spotting. It just makes your heart sink, eh? All the best for your HSG. I had one last cycle and while it wasn't the best thing in the world wasn't too bad. About the same as a smear just took a bit longer and there are heaps more people around :)

I had spotting last night and a bit today so don't think it worked for us this month. Bit sad because I'd heard about lots of people getting UTD the cycle after their HSG. The letter about the funding arrived over the weekend. DH and I had to get more bloodtests today and then we are going to FA on Friday to be taught all about the next step. We are doing ovulation induction which (as far as I can tell) is a bit like using the IVF drugs (i.e. injections) without the IVF bit. I am a bit nervous about the injections. I am ok with needles but having to inject myself every day doesn't sound very nice. Wish me luck!


Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 17 October 2012 at 11:31pm
ThistleFern - Since being on the prog I'm definitely spottier, which is a pain. I would say I'm maybe a bit grumpier than usual, but it could also be that DD is pushing my buttons more lately and DH isn't helping

Mumma2be - Sorry about AF being on her way. I'm sure you could ask to be monitored if you wanted to.

Kerny, sucky about AF being on her way for you too. I've heard the same thing about HSG's, but also about people getting pregnant in the 2nd or 3rd cycle after them too. I'm terrible with needles - so glad that clomid is a pill!

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: monkeys
Date Posted: 19 October 2012 at 8:01am
Hey ladies, how are you all going?
I am 4DPO now. Had bloods yesterday - which I still doing quite get, since I am not day 21, or 7 days after OV!!
I am glad though that I have been charting so I know when I OV'd otherwise based off what they have said I would be trying to test to early. Meeting up with some girls who used to be in this thread next Saturday - so may have to test then just for them! That would be 12DPO
Hope you are all doing good xxx

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3 little Angels July 10, May 11, Apr 13


Posted By: Mrs Impatient
Date Posted: 19 October 2012 at 6:39pm
Kerny & Mumma2b - Stinky AF, wishing you both the best of luck for this month
I am CD15 and we have done everything we can for this month so the dreaded 2 week wait begins
Fingers crossed
We have an appointment with FA in 2 weeks time to discuss IUI but they still haven't got back to me about saying that they weren't going to do any treatment (even though we are paying for it) if I don't lose another 3 kg's which is frustrating.
Hoping for the BFP in 2 weeks


Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 20 October 2012 at 8:36am
Hope the 2WW goes wuickly for your Mrs Impatient!

Good luck for testing next week monkeys. It's always so nice to catch up with people who understand the struggle to conceive so you can be honest with them rather than trot out some party line.

As for me, had some spotting overnight, which is odd as I only took my last progesterone pill last night AF should take a couple of days to arrive (well, that is my understanding) - so I'll guess we'll see.

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: Mrs Impatient
Date Posted: 21 October 2012 at 7:42am
Thanks AreilAngel, totally agree it's so nice to be able to talk openly and honestly about the anguish of TTC. I hope your timing works out and your HSG goes well. I had mine last month and it's not too bad and over fairly quickly and they say it gives you a better chance, so if you have IUI the following month FX it works. Best of luck


Posted By: kerny
Date Posted: 21 October 2012 at 10:11pm
Hi everyone. Hope that you are having a nice long weekend. Yay for the extra day off!

Finally day 1 for me after days of annoying spotting. So - I had my first injection of Gonal-F today. It wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. Didn't hurt that much and was over and done with pretty quickly. Has anyone else been on it? What kind of side effects can I expect?

Got my FX for you Monkeys and Mrs Impatient.


Posted By: Naki
Date Posted: 22 October 2012 at 4:41pm
Hi kerny
Yay for you! Always takes forever when you are waiting for AF to arrive. I was 7 days late last cycle and I am NEVER late, I swear it was my brain playing tricks on me as it knew I wanted to start my IVF cycle so badly. I did an antagonist cycle and started 225 units of Gonal F on day 2 of my cycle. I also took the antibiotic azithromycin the same day to prevent miscarriage and boy was I sick! I had nausea, hot flushes, body tremors, massive pressure in my head which caused my vision to be unfocused, diarrhoea (sorry if TMI!) and couldn't move off the couch. I came right after about 3 hours and then when I did my next shot of Gonal F on day 3 I was fine apart from a bit of a headache. I spoke to the nurse at fertility associates and she said it would have been a reaction to the antibiotic, not the Gonal F. Only side effect was a headache each night after the jab and a bit of nausea here and there, nothing major! The pen was really easy to use as well which is great! Good luck with your cycle!!


Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 22 October 2012 at 7:32pm
I'm CD1 today Kerny, so our cycles are just one day apart! Glad the injections aren't too bad.

As for me, have a sick DH so he's pretty useless at the moment and a bloody grump to boot. I hope he's better when I start on the clomid as I've heard it can make you a bit emotional.

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: kerny
Date Posted: 22 October 2012 at 9:40pm
Ariel - yay glad we are only one day apart. Nice to have a cycle buddy.
Hope your DH feels better soon. I did find that clomid made me quite emotional so hopefully he'll be out of his grump before you start. What day are you starting?

Naki -thanks for the info. So far so good - don't seem to have much in the way of side effects. Like you say, the pen is really easy to use thank goodness! That is really interesting about taking antibiotics to prevent miscarriage. Did FA explain how it works?   

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Posted By: ThistleFern
Date Posted: 23 October 2012 at 9:13pm
Mumma2be – when is your HSG? Did you find out about doing a monitored non-clomid cycle? Hope it all goes well this month.

Monkeys – Good luck with testing at weekend.

Mrs Impatient – How’s the 2WW going? FX for your BFP so that you don’t have to go on to IUI. Surely they’d let you do it regardless of the 3kg, if you’re paying for it?

Kerny – Hope the injections make a difference this month and you don’t have any horrid side effects.

Ariel – Good luck with your clomid cycle. Hope your DH feels better soon.

AFM, I had my progesterone test and it came back at 54! This is the first month I’ve ovulated on my own since my laparoscopy in Sept last year when I was put on the treatment to stop my cycle. Good to know that my body can still do it. With not being on the clomid or being monitored this month I don’t know exactly when I ovulated so it’s just a matter of waiting to see what happens over the next week or so. Wish me luck :-)


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Unexplained infertility


Posted By: Mumma2be
Date Posted: 23 October 2012 at 9:24pm
Hi TF, I am having the HSG on Thurs, my clinic is letting me do bloods on Day12 (Estrogen) and Day 21 (Progesterone). Im really interested to see what my HSG results are and also to see from my Day 12 and 21 how they compare to my results on Clomid. Fingers crossed! Prog level of 54 is fantastic, fingers crossed this is your month!


Posted By: ThistleFern
Date Posted: 23 October 2012 at 9:38pm
Sounds like a busy month Mumma2be. Glad they're monitoring you to see how things go without the clomid. Will be interesting to compare. Hope your HSG goes well. Mine wasn't too bad. It was in the afternoon and I managed to go back to work for a couple of hours afterwards. Keep us all updated with your results.

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TTC since Feb '10
Unexplained infertility


Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 24 October 2012 at 8:26am
Kerny, I've heard that clomid makes you emotional so I really hope that DH is feeling better soon.

I start pill popping tonight, eek! Have days 12 to 16 scheduled in my calendar too, for at least once a day BDing - DH is looking forward to that part

Yay for Ovulating ThistleFern - it's so nice when our bodies do something they should be doing! Good luck - I really hope you caught that eggie!

Good luck for your HSG on tomorrow Mumma2be.

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: Naki
Date Posted: 24 October 2012 at 6:31pm
Ariel just remind DH what a grump he was when sick if you need some pampering during your cycle!!! Nothing like a bit of guilt trip to get some special treatment yourself!
Kerny the antibiotic is a precautionary treatment as a few studies have suggested that there is a bacteria commonly found in the reproductive tract of adults that can increase the risk of miscarriage. FA did a case study and 18% of the males they tested were positive for the bacteria so now they treat everyone for it "just in case" as it is too expensive to test everyone for it apparently. Crazy huh!


Posted By: Mumma2be
Date Posted: 24 October 2012 at 9:15pm
Has anyone taken a break from Clomid? We are having a break this month for HSG, i have held it together pretty well so far but this month I am on no treatment and am feeling quite disheartened by it all and feeling a bit low. I thought i would feel great being off the Clomid but i feel worse than when im on it. I am wondering if its perhaps anxiety about the HSG and the results but just wondered maybe my hormones are going a bit crazy as they have been used to clomid for a few months. Anyone else had this?


Posted By: kerny
Date Posted: 24 October 2012 at 10:15pm
Mumma2be - I felt the same way when I stopped clomid for HSG and to work out the next step. I think that the emotional effects of clomid might hang around a wee bit but the biggest thing for me was that I felt like I wasn't doing anything to move forward on our struggle to have a baby. I felt that at least when I was taking clomid I was doing something! I did feel better once we'd had the HSG and had a clearer picture of where to go next. I hope that you feel better soon. All the best for tomorrow.

TF - yipee for ovulation. that is awesome :)

Ariel - all the best for the first night of pill popping.     


Posted By: ThistleFern
Date Posted: 25 October 2012 at 9:05am
Mumma2be - I was going to ask the same question! I'm not taking clomid this month and my mood seems to be worse than when I was on it. Yesterday I was so stroppy and miserable all day even though I'd just got great results back from my blood test. I think Kerny is right in that it's because it doesn't feel like we're doing anything to move forward. Even when I ovulated fine on my own for the 18mths I still didn't get pregnant and then 6 months of clomid didn't help so being off it again is unlikely to make a difference. I'm now in limbo for the next few months while we wait for IVF so it's easy to get disheartened.
Just focus on your HSG but try not to be anxious. You're heading in the right direction to maybe get some answers and then you can have more of a plan. Hope it goes well today.

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TTC since Feb '10
Unexplained infertility


Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 26 October 2012 at 9:12am
I think the hormonal mess is kicking in . I feel a little sorry for DH, and to be fair, he hasn't had a strong warning - I think that will be tonight's conversation.

How long will I be emotional for? Would be nice if I could tell him there is an end in sight.

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: Ceres
Date Posted: 26 October 2012 at 1:50pm
*lurker in*

Ariel, I found any symptoms disappeared pretty soon after the last tablet (I got hot flushes and visual disturbance + moods with the higher doses). So hopefully it goes away quick-smart for you after that last tab x.

*lurker out*

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Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 29 October 2012 at 10:59am
Last pill is done and dusted! Now just to wait four more days and then the BD marathon begins lol

Mumma2be - how did the HSG go?

How is everyone else?



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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: ThistleFern
Date Posted: 29 October 2012 at 11:23am
Ariel - hope your hormones have settled down a bit now and that DH is also feeling better. Enjoy your marathon ;-)

Yes, Mumma2be - how did it all go?

CD1 for me today. Feeling a bit crap to be honest. Being off the clomid seems to have reduced my cycle from 31 to 29 days though so that's ok. Means less waiting around each month (by 2 days!) Not sure where to go from here really. We have our appointment in Dec to get ready for IVF so looks like that's where we're headed.
A few of you are planning to move onto IUI aren't you? I'm quite tempted but not sure it's worth it. I may have to chat to DH again and see if it's an option he'd be keen on.

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TTC since Feb '10
Unexplained infertility


Posted By: Mumma2be
Date Posted: 29 October 2012 at 4:04pm
Hi girls, sorry for some reason I thought I had posted but must have dreamt it :-) The HSG was totally fine, much like a smear just a little more uncomfortable but not unbearable at all. It took ages for them to due it due to tilted cervix and uterus and the metal thing (?) which wouldnt stay in place. All tubes appear clear so guess that rules that out. As I mentioned im on a break from treatment this month, had E2 levels done today as I havent had levels checked other than on fertility treatment, it was 342 and Im day 12 so quite low from what I gather. Does anyone have a chart showing the range it should be? Naturally i was ovulating around Day 15 but as I have been having treatment this could be different this month?

TF- We are looking at IUI next cycle, Im not sure there is much point and really dont know what the best course of action is going to be. On Clomid i have had good E2 levels and follicles and everything is always spot on but i never get preg, so im not sure IUI is really our best option if you know what I mean.

Can anyone tell me what their IUI experience was like? I have no idea what is involved but just imagine a turkey baster lol. Are you awake when they do it?


Posted By: Mrs Impatient
Date Posted: 29 October 2012 at 7:08pm
Hi Ladies
I'm not on clomid but have found there are a few of you on this forum that are in a similar situation as me with unexplained fertility
We are seeing the Dr from FA on Friday morning to discuss starting IUI, would love to hear from anyone who has been through this
Currently on CD25 and waiting to test (hoping of all hopes for BFP)
Good luck to all

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Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 30 October 2012 at 11:28am
Mumma2Be - Glad the HSG was ok. Is E2 estrogen, or something else? I'm only having day21 prog so will have no idea what the rest of my hormones will be doing.

Welcome MrsImpatient. This really is a great thread - I was on here before I even did clomid and as IUI seems to be the step after clomid there are a few people on here who will be going through that too.

Oh, and I always imagined IUI to be like a turkey baster situation too! lol


ETA - Finally called and got my AMH - 9.35 - which is just on the borderline between normal and reduced fertility for my age

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: ThistleFern
Date Posted: 30 October 2012 at 12:38pm
Mumma2be and MrsImpatient - sounds like you're both in same situation as me at the moment with nothing obviously wrong, good hormone levels, follies etc but nothing happening. Still not sure about IUI. I think I'll wait to see how others get on to see if it's worth it. Go on - you first ;-)
Good luck for this month MrsImpatient. Not long until testing so you never know.

Ariel - How did you go about getting an AMH test done? Did you have to request it and pay for it? I've not been offered one by my FS but I'd be interested to see what my levels are like with being a bit older. Borderline still gives you some hope. Maybe even though there's possibly fewer eggs the clomid will help you to release more at once and increase your chances? Fingers crossed.

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Unexplained infertility


Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 30 October 2012 at 8:51pm
ThistleFern, my FS sent me for the AMH - probably because he will use that as a reason to justify telling us to keep on trying for a couple more years before resorting to IVF (well, that would be my guess anyway). I did have to pay for it - almost $92 - but I figured it was money well spent to find out if there was an issue and if time would be a factor.

I was reading about the AMH on the FA website, and it says although AMH is an indicator, age is still the biggest factor in fertility so at least I kindof have that on my side. I'm trying to be positive and like you said ThistleFern, hoping that the clomid will increase those eggies and just give us a bit more of a chance.

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: Mumma2be
Date Posted: 30 October 2012 at 9:38pm
ArielAngel I had the AMH test done, mine was about 11.5 from memory and Im only 31! I was really upset as thought it was quite low but my specialist said its fine, I just wouldnt want to wait to have more kids. Do you mind me asking how old you are?

I keep hearing people talk about Gonal-F, does anyone know what this does differently to Clomid? Is anyone on any other treatment on top of Clomid?


Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 31 October 2012 at 10:06am
I'm 31 too Mumma2be! From what I saw on the FA website, 11.5 is below average but still well into the "green", anything below 10 and you start moving into the "orange" which is where I am at. I just got the results off the nurse so I guess she can't really tell me too much or be particularly reassuring.

The FS said he would monitor our case but we won't have any appointments with him again until next year and only if the clomid doesn't work - I am hoping/assuming that the result isn't too alarming which is why he hasn't called.

I hear people talk about Gonal-F too, and metformin, but not sure what these do.

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: kerny
Date Posted: 31 October 2012 at 10:06pm
Hi girls
I'm currently on Gonal-F after being unsucessful on clomid (5 cycles). I'm on what FA call an ovulation induction cycle using the drugs to help ovulation but not doing IUI or IVF (at this stage). I think for me Gonal F will be better because clomid thined my lining. It is an injection which is a bit scary but I've got used to injecting myself each night :) So far emotional side effects have been much better - I was pretty emotional on clomid. The only side effect I've noticed is that I feel a bit sick in the morning and a bit tired. We thought about doing an IUI cycle while waiting for public funding to come through but decided against it and in the end we didn't really have time.

Mumma2be - glad the HSG was OK. Nice to get it over and done with. Maybe you could talk to your doctor about trying Gonal F next?

ArielAngel - yay for making it through the pills.

MrsImpatient - Welcome! But I have my FX for you that you won't need to stay long    


Posted By: Mumma2be
Date Posted: 01 November 2012 at 8:49pm
kerny, I have responded quite well to Clomid in terms of follicle numbers, size and everything else but havent had success with getting pregnant, might take to my specialist about whether Gonal F would help. I can only assume that our issue is with fertilisation or implantation as everything thats been tested is fine grrr


Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 02 November 2012 at 10:10am
How did they know the clomid thinned your lining kerny? Did you have an ultrasound?

That is the thing that worries me about only having day 21 bloods, is that if there is anything else untoward happening that they won't pick it up. One of my biggest fears is that we'll get a BFP, be really stoked, and it will turn out I overstimulated and am pregnant with quads and they will make us decide whether we terminate some (reading that back, it is funny that that is my fear, and not getting a BFN).

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: Mrs Impatient
Date Posted: 02 November 2012 at 7:10pm
Hi Everyone
Well I we had our FA appt today and decided we are going to have Nov/Dec off and start clomid and IUI in Jan
Got AF this morning, so was gutted as I had worked out I would be able to tell my family at Christmas because I would be a few days off 12 weeks :(
Feeling positive about our decision though
Kerny - Thanks for the welcome and kind words and would be interested to know about the thining of your lining. Is this common? WHat effect does it have?
ArielAngel - Yip that would be scary. We would be alright with twins but anymore than 2 and I would freak out

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Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 04 November 2012 at 7:06pm
Oh Mrs Impatient . Glad that the FA appt went well and you have a plan for next year.

As for me, had a busy weekend and a busy week - part way through our BD marathon - not sure what CD I am, maybe 13? I'm feeling pretty positive about this cycle.

Anyway, time to head off and make dinner - a late one today!

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: kerny
Date Posted: 04 November 2012 at 9:53pm
Hi everyone. Hope you had a nice weekend.

MrsImpatient - sorry about AF. Sending you hugs. Hopefully it will help having had your appointment and having a plan in place for next year. But FX you won't need it.

The doctors noted my thin lining when I had my monitoring ultrasounds while on clomid.   Apparently it is a relatively common side effect. Thin lining causes issues with implantation although I think there is some debate about how thin is too thin. It has been much better now that I am on Gonal F. It would have been interesting to know what it was like without any drugs but I didn't have any scans during that time.

I ended up having a pretty crazy weekend. I went in for a scan and blood test on Saturday morning. I had 3 follicles which were big enough to release. The doctor who did the scan talked to the doctor in charge of my treatment and because of the risk of triplets they recommended that either we stop the cycle or have follicular aspiration where they take out the some of the follicles and then IUI. We decided to go with the latter. It meant going to back to the clinic for a trigger shot on Saturday afternoon and then in for much of today for the aspiration and IUI. It is quite a lot to process. Hopefully, it will give us a good chance this cycle but I'm not quite ready to get my hopes up yet. Been feeling really sleepy and a bit sore since I got home. off to bed for an early night!    


Posted By: ThistleFern
Date Posted: 05 November 2012 at 1:18pm
Wow Kerny, that sounds really promising! It's great that you managed to get the IUI done there and then without having to think about it too much. I think you made the right decision given the two options. Will keep my fingers crossed for you. Hope you're feeling a bit better today and have plenty of time to relax and put your feet up.


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TTC since Feb '10
Unexplained infertility


Posted By: Mrs Impatient
Date Posted: 05 November 2012 at 5:51pm
ArielAngel - Thanks, have my FX for you

Kerny - Thanks, FX for you for this month. I really hope it works for you.

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TTC Mar 2011
4 IUI all BFN
IVF Dec BFP


Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 06 November 2012 at 11:10am
Kerny - that is great that they could do the aspiration so quickly for you. It would have been frustrating to have to cancel the cycle.

As for me, have a stupid cold which has been hanging around and it has gotten worse so am feeling like sh*te today. Am pissed off at DH too as when he left this morning he told me to tell him if I needed him to come home to help look after DD, and when I text him to say could he come home early, he calls and tells me that actually he has three jobs to finish today and he was probably going to be late home - why the f*ck didn't he tell me that this morning instead of making it seem like he might be able to help out.

Anyway, sorry for the rant. Think I might go and tidy the kitchen and get things ready for dinner (and if I'm lucky have a nap), so that this afternoon I don't have to do, or think about anything. And hopefully I'm in a better mood when DH gets home, as I'm CD 15 today so still in the midst of our BD marathon.

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: Mrs Impatient
Date Posted: 06 November 2012 at 6:48pm
ArielAngel - Hope you were able to get in a nap and feel better. Males aren't the most intelligent creatures sometimes
Good luck with your BD marathon
Since you are on clomid, do you have to get regular bloods to make sure you produce too many folies?
I am regular and unexplained fertility so we are going to try IUI with clomid in Jan

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TTC Mar 2011
4 IUI all BFN
IVF Dec BFP


Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 07 November 2012 at 8:25am
Thanks Mrs Impatient. I did have a nap and felt a little better. Have had to brave work today but luckily the boss is away all day so at least I don't have to be super productive.

I'm not having regular bloods at all, just day 21 progesterone (which is next Monday). My FA Dr is pretty relaxed which in some ways is awesome - he didn't say, but it was probably an unmonitored relatively low dose clomid, or he would have just said for us to keep trying by ourselves for another couple of months. Although, having said that, now that we have my low AMH result he will probably be more proactive.

It's actually scary/nerve wracking now that I realise that in a weeks time I'll know if I ovulated this cycle, and if I did, that there is a good chance we could get our BFP this cycle. I guess at least that means that rather than a 2WW I'll only have one week to wait before I could start testing (lucky I have a pile of cheapie tests at home!).

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: Mumma2be
Date Posted: 07 November 2012 at 7:21pm
Well being my month off with the hsg done I went ahead with day 12 and 21 tests. Results for progesterone were 3.7 so even though I thought all along I was ovulating this may prove I wasn't so perhaps clomid us the answer for me after all, so confusing. Iui now confirmed for next cycle..... Nervous!!!!!!!!


Posted By: Mrs Impatient
Date Posted: 08 November 2012 at 7:49pm
ArielAngel - Good that the boss wasn't there. Hope you have a speedy recovery and FX for a BFP this month

Mumma2be - Exciting!!! Are you taking clomid to help ovulation or to help with IUI? We are starting IUI in Jan. I can't wait, I really want my baby now please ha ha

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TTC Mar 2011
4 IUI all BFN
IVF Dec BFP


Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 09 November 2012 at 7:37pm
Mumma2be - that's disappointing you didn't ovulate on your own, or is it possible you ovulated late? IUI is exciting though, such a good chance (especially if you know there are no blockages).

Mrs Impatient - I want my baby now too! Obviously our orders have been delayed somewhere along the line

As for me, CD 18 today. Hopefully I've ovulated like normal people (around CD14) as DH is away for a few days. I'm looking forward to the blood test on Monday and finding out the results - I'll probably ring FA on Wednesday, is that too soon?

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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: Mumma2be
Date Posted: 09 November 2012 at 8:03pm
Do you mean Blood results to check for ovulation? If so I always get results the afternoon of the day i get bloods done :-)



Posted By: ArielAngel
Date Posted: 09 November 2012 at 8:31pm
Yup Mumma2be, the day 21 progesterone. I just don't want to call and nag that's all - might leave calling to Tuesday arvo then, cause at least that way I won't be at work (and if it's bad news I might cry).


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After 16 months TTC, surprise BFP July 10
DD1 Mar 11
After 9 months TTC, BFP on 4th Clomid cycle Feb 13
DD2 Oct 13


Posted By: Mrs Impatient
Date Posted: 09 November 2012 at 8:41pm
When I read over my info from the FA they said they ring in the arvo of the blood test to let you know. Good luck

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TTC Mar 2011
4 IUI all BFN
IVF Dec BFP


Posted By: Mumma2be
Date Posted: 09 November 2012 at 9:11pm
Im not with FA but as Mrs I said, i was always called by them on the afternoon of the test, i never had to chase them :-)



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