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Topic: toilet training anyone?
Posted By: Bizzy
Subject: toilet training anyone?
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 1:07pm
anyone else want to talk about the trials and tribulations of toilet training.

I think a lot of us have started, are thinking of starting or have already been thru it so might have some useful info.

I nearly lost it this morning at poor gabriel. Any one got any ideas on how to get him to do no 2's in the toilet?

maybe if we get enough good info we could make it a sticky?

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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 2:50pm
Maybe I'll just sticky it anyway!

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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 4:16pm
The only way I have encourage Han to do poos is to make "straining" faces at her on the toilet. Completely bloody ridiculous I tell ya!

And good timing. If I saw her start to pull the poo face I used to rush her to the toilet. Seriously rush. Like the world was ending.

Have you tried the potty? This is going to sound terrible... but also sometimes if Hannah is blatantly refusing to go to the toilet (yay for the strong willed child) then I sit her in front of the TV on the potty. (I figure good toileting habits can come later )

But then you have days like yesterday... where Hannah had poos on her hand and her foot but no "pile" to be found. I am dreading the day I find this mystery poo. I'm hoping like hell she was just playing with it because if I find a month old log in my wardrobe I will not be a happy camper.


Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 4:39pm
i have never seen him make a pooing face..??? if he was regular that might help too.... but no not my boy...

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Posted By: .Mel
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 4:45pm
My son was terrified and I would do things like sit on the floor while he sat up on the toilet, I tried giving him books to read, sticker charts the works. I never used potty's with either of them... and then one day out of the blue, he went on his own and we never looked back, I think it's all about timing, perservance, patience, all that mummy stuff. My daughter was fine, went on the loo no problems, no accidents, she just decided that it was time for her to be a "big" girl. She did however require one of us to be there with her, and she'd lean forward and wrap her arms around your leg while she did what needed to be done.


Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 4:59pm

I did the sticker chart with Andrew to get him to do poos. After he realised that he would get a sticker for doing them in the toilet he was doing them in there all the time. Haven't had an accident since the sticker chart. He somehow knew that once the sticker chart was full he had done good and he has continued to do them in there. I used winnie the pooh stickers (as he loves Tigger) and when the sticker chart was full he got a Thomas DVD. He knew there was an incentive to do it and just did it. He also went all the time at daycare but never got a sticker there (maybe the first few times)

Andrew was also never big on the potty and went straight on the toilet.

I have heard of people cutting a hole in the nappy so the poos can come out and the child still has the nappy on and therefore fell more secure about doing them in the toilet. Also sometimes children are afraid to do them on the toilet as they are flushed away and its like a bit of them has been flushed away. Also the sound of the poos hitting the water may frighten some children. To stop that putting paper in the toilet first can stop the "plonking" sound.



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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 5:20pm
One thing I've thought of but never done, is a sticker straight on the hand instead of a sticker chart. For a 2yo that is, because their memory is so short.

And most of the TT process really just comes down to patience and perserverance. For a lot of people it takes 6-8 months (and Hannah was one of those), just stick with it, be encouraging, and don't flip-flop with nappies and undies on any given day (except for sleep times) because it can just cause confusion.

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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 6:02pm
Originally posted by mummy_becks mummy_becks wrote:

I have heard of people cutting a hole in the nappy so the poos can come out and the child still has the nappy on and therefore fell more secure about doing them in the toilet.


Noooo! Not the cloth nappies!!!


Posted By: caraMel
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 6:15pm
Originally posted by nikkiwhyte nikkiwhyte wrote:



But then you have days like yesterday... where Hannah had poos on her hand and her foot but no "pile" to be found. I am dreading the day I find this mystery poo. I'm hoping like hell she was just playing with it because if I find a month old log in my wardrobe I will not be a happy camper.


Sorry Nikki, that had me in hysterics!!
We had our first 'poo's in knickers' experience yesterday and that was bad enough, I'm so not looking forward to hidden poo's!

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 6:50pm

Good point Nikki, not the cloth nappies, only the disposable. Considering the cost of the cloths I wouldn't be cutting holes in them.



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Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 8:50pm
We never had a problem with number twos but we did make a game/joke out of how loud he could make it go plop and now he goes big one coming mummy, going to be big plop (TMI i know sorry) also we found some cool wiggles toddler wipes at the supermarket. they are just like wipes and in a container like the baby wipes but have the wiggles on the front and they are fruit scented. we used them when my friends we girl was coming each week cos she didnt like doing poos in the toilet, so they were allowed to use the special wiggles wipes if she did poos.

I read somewhere that once you make the call to toilet train dont go back to nappies, at the time i thought this was totally impractical but i think it does really work, it only took kobe 10 days before he got the hang of it and 3 weeks before he was having no accidents and a month before he was dry at night too.

Im trying to decide if i should be encouraging Kobe to stand up when he pees or if that doesnt come till later


Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 9:06pm
I guess it simply depends on his height? Hehe Mrs mum of three girls here so scrap that if you want

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Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 24 January 2007 at 9:18am
jack always stands up when he pees........because he only does it on the carpet!!!
he has started taking his nappy off now and running around with no pants on, so i always find lots of wet patches on the floor. i have to sellotape his nappy on him now, and everytime we take it off to change him he says 'toilet' so i tell him to go into the bathroom and he just runs off to his bedroom. if i get him into the bathroom and onto the toilet he just sits there.
a couple mins off the loo and he's peeing on the floor!!!!
if i could just get him to go on the loo once, i think maybe he would get the idea......? i've got some stamps to put on his hand when he does go..finally

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Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 24 January 2007 at 9:45am
Vanessa have you tried reading him a story while he is on the toilet? the first time kobe said toilet it was completely out of the blue so off we went, and ended up waiting there for half an hour. the next time we took a story and that kept him on there for ages. probably not the most hygenic place to read stories but it works.


Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 24 January 2007 at 9:47am
i have had gabriel in full time undies since the 2 jan (a new years resolution of sorts) and before that we were sitting him on the toilet every night before his bath to get him used to it....after being in undies full time it took him threee days to finally pee on the toilet... there was nearly a party in the toilet that day.!
I so nearly lost it at him yesterday when he pooed in his undies again....but i know that will be bad.!!! so am trying to be patient mummy - not a role i play very well at all tho.

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Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 24 January 2007 at 9:50am
yeah its frustrating when you know they know to go to the toilet aye. Kobe had an accident on christmas day, to much excitment and toys and children to play with i think but in the middle of trying to get a big cooked lunch for 25 people it was the last thing i needed. Managed to keep my patience, just!


Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 24 January 2007 at 8:53pm
We are doing our first night with no pull up on. Should be interesting.

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Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 24 January 2007 at 9:26pm
Good luck!


Posted By: nictoddie
Date Posted: 24 January 2007 at 9:52pm
my son is 3.5 years and he has just successfully tt, I started about a fortnight ago as I wanted him out of nappies before he went back to kindy, first day was a right off accidents all day, second day he got the wees down pat he was not keen on toilet so we have a larger potty with a lift out insert so we would go off to the toilet and he would flush it away, no 2 accident was yuck! First night he woke up dry was amazed, he continued to go wees successfully and 3rd day got him on the big toilet with insert thought he was neat!! He won the past the parcel pressie at my nephews birthday that week and we told him when he did poo on the big toilet he could have it, naughty I know, well took him 3 days and he yelled out poos coming and ran to the loo ... boy did we have a party.... he got the present it was a hotwheels car crusher. He has been dry coming up 2 weeks at night and going great during the day, he tends to have accidents when we are out and about as he is not keen to go on other people toilets hehehe but I'm sure we will get there. Patience is the key good luck

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 25 January 2007 at 10:24am
Well I ended up putting a pull up on him at about 10.30pm as he refused to go toilet. Then this morning he comes into me saying he needs to go wees and the pull up is dry. I think he knows that he needs to wait till the morning, so tonight all going well i'm not going to lose the plot and just let him go without a pull up and if he doesn't want to do wees when I wake him up then thats ok.

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Posted By: nictoddie
Date Posted: 25 January 2007 at 11:36am
Well done sounds like he is doing great

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Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 25 January 2007 at 3:17pm
well i don't know what to do.
jack knows the word 'toilet' and what it is and where it is, just doesn't do anything in it. he is always taking his nappy off and running around with no pants on, pissing on the carpet. he doesn't seem to put 'toilet' and 'pee' together, today when he pee'd on the floor he was saying it was raining!
should i just continue sellotaping his nappy on (we may try cloth on him too) and wait a bit longer to TT him or put him in undies? he has a couple of pairs and has worn them a few times but 5-10mins after i put them on, he wets them
i've put him on the toilet a few times and he sits there ok now, but doesn't do anything. like today, he said it was raining so i looked at him and he'd started to 'dribble' so i rushed him off to the toilet and sang the abc's and practised the counting. he was on for about 5mins and then wanted off but still hadn't done anything. i then put him in bed for a nap with a cloth nappy on, which he didn't like, but that's another story......
well that was a long question huh! any advice greatly appreciated ladies

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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 25 January 2007 at 4:19pm
A lot of children take a lot of getting used to the toilet before they can relax enough to "let go". Sounds like he's still warming up to it. Perhaps you can get one of those toddler seats or use a potty? And I'd keep the nappies on until he gets the connection

PS I read somewhere that a lot of boys don't get it until they are 3. Not syure if you wanted to know that or not tho

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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 25 January 2007 at 4:23pm
he might be a bit young yet...maybe keep him in nappies for a bit longer but get him used to the toilet too maybe by putting him on in the mornings and before bed or bath at night. we did this for gabriel for a while with nothing happening but you could see his confidence increasing about the whole thing. and it started good habits off like washing hands after etc...

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Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 25 January 2007 at 4:27pm
well the only advice i have is what we did with kobe. It worked for us so might be worth a try.

No nappies except for naps and night time. Buy heaps of undies for a start. Then in the morning put him on the toilet and see if he will go then get him dressed in undies (helps to leave pants off unless you are going out cos its easier for them to just get undies off quickly) Dont go back to nappies no matter how tempting it is so i would wait till you can spend at least a week reasonably close to home or at least only at places your not worried if he has an accident. The first week he will wet himself heaps and you will be thinking you have started to early, by the second week it might just be once or twice a day and the third week will be sweet (roughly that time line anyway) Dont go back to nappies once you make the decision cos he might get confused, if he wets his undies then its uncomfortable and he will soon realise to go to the toilet. Always have a potty or step stool in front of the toilet so he can race there himself and even put a potty in the back of your car if you need to. We did a sticker chart but had ditched that by the end of the week cos he wasnt really interested. Well thats all my advice and what we did with Kobe. He was out of nappies completely, including night time nappies within a month and its very rare for us to have an accident. Normally its if ive put pants on him that are to tight for him to get them off in a hurry. Oh and I would sit him on the toilet every hour or so.


Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 25 January 2007 at 4:29pm
Hehe just realised that goes against all the other advice you have been given but as i said its just what worked for us. Oh and ive discovered boys 'dribble' just before they poo so its always a good warning to get them to the toilet.


Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 25 January 2007 at 6:18pm
I got Andrew a 10 pack of undies from K Mart as they worked out the cheapest and if the got ruined it didn't matter so much money wise. Once we had made the decision to TT it was undies during the day and a nappy at night, till we got the pull ups. We never went back to nappies at all as I had been told it can confuse them. We did the sticker chart thing - can always try it to see how he goes with one. We started the sticker chart with plain stickers for wees and special stickers for poos as we were really trying to get him to do poos on the toilet. Maybe if you try the sticker chart get some stickers of something he likes to go on the chart and maybe some plain ones to go on his hand or top. We had the sticker chart right by the toilet door so he could see how well he was doing. When the sticker chart was full Andrew got a Thomas DVD so he knew that he was working towards something he wanted. I'm pretty sure Andrew was about Jack's age when we started with him.

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Posted By: nictoddie
Date Posted: 25 January 2007 at 6:43pm
I would say yup boys do tend to take longer, to me it sounds like he is not ready but if you can bare with lots of accidents you have to be really patient, i was told that boys are less control muscles than girls that is why it takes longer for them to get it , my boy is 3.5 and he as only just done tt in the last 3 weeks I was like you and would put him on the potty he'd sit there for 20 mins half hour quite happy get off and pee his pants

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Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 25 January 2007 at 7:29pm
i think i'll leave him a little longer and see if he gets the meaning of 'peeing'. i've started putting him in cloth nappies now as charli is in them full time so i can't see the point in paying for sposies for jack when he can use charli's one sz cloths. and it's a good excuse to get some more cool nappies
i've got stamps to put on his hand when he does go on the toilet but will leave it for another month and see.

robyn, funny you mention about 'dribble' before poo...i put him down for a nap straight after and when i got him up he'd pooed

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Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 25 January 2007 at 7:46pm
Yeah its one of those things that a female wouldnt know. Ive had to ask my husband a couple of times 'is this what you guys do' now know way more about guys than i really needed to


Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 26 January 2007 at 9:16am
First night of no pull up and a dry night . I did get him up around 10pm to go to the toilet and i'm going to contiune doing that for a while.

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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 26 January 2007 at 9:23am
Well done Andrew!!!


Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 26 January 2007 at 9:37am
thats great! well done Andrew


Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 30 January 2007 at 12:23pm

Just an update. Andrew is now 5 nights no "special undies" (pull ups) and no accidents.



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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 30 January 2007 at 4:07pm
way to go..

i have brought a poo present for gabriel for when he finally does poos on the toilet...

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Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 30 January 2007 at 5:15pm
Well done Andrew


Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 30 January 2007 at 9:05pm
I found stamps on the hand were a graeat incentitive for the child with the goldfish like memory. we also put stickers on the calendar for dry days. i initially gave him a present for "five dry days" etc, but he didn't really get the assoication. we started tting the day jake turned two and are still battling with poos. Most days are dry, but i swear, he saves his poos for naptime and bedtime so he can say "poos mum" and then come out and have a bit more playtime....every bloody day! and I've treid chaging his naptimes and putting him on the loo - doesn't matter the time - which makes me think he has a lot more bowel control than I give him credit for!


Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 30 January 2007 at 9:15pm
Liz - Han is the same at bedtime. Even if she has done poos only an hour beforehand... I swear she actively tries to push them out to stay up longer! ARGH! Drives me absolutely mad.


Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 30 January 2007 at 10:13pm
well i think we have had a poo success tonight. hubby went to change him into his nappy for bed and he had dirty undies so we put him on the toilet in case there was more to come - and i wasnt looking but i heard a small splash and gabriel had a strange look on his face... so i took that as success.!!! Yay.

so now i have made up a sign for the toilet with a lollipop attached for the next poo success.

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 02 February 2007 at 2:24pm

Yay I can pack away the pull ups. Andrew has taken to holding it in like a fish to water and i'm going to put them away (a whole packet minus 1) so when it comes time we have them for the next one. First thing Andrew does when he wakes up is come in to my bed, says "I woke up" and then goes off to the toilet. I'm very proud of my boy, especially after the MIL tells me he may have the same problems her eldest had and wasn't nighttime TT until 6. Sorry but my boy doesn't have the mental issues your eldest has, (I don't like my BIL at all hes a mental health nurse working in the same ward he is an out patient in) i'm thinking of getting him something for being able to hold it in overnight but can't think of what to get him. He loves Thomas and we have a number of Thomas things for him in a Thomas bag for when the baby comes so I may have to go and have a look at the DVD's again.

How are the poos in the toilet going gsmum???



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Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 05 February 2007 at 3:06pm
with caitlyn i waited until she could make the connection that the "wet stuff" was coming from her, and then i told her that u put it in the toilet, she was about 1 and a half or 2 (good grief im getting forgetful i cant remember when my only child startd going to the toilet) she gets up herself in the middle of the night and goes wees too.

But as for doing number 2s in the toilet? she did the first few times and now has decided she doesnt like to, and shes 5 in june, she'll either go in her knickers or if i notice her going (she gets very agitated and eager for me to go away ) and stick her on the toilet she doesnt go,no matter how long shes there for, shes a really bright girl in all the other ways, her plunket nurse said intelligence wise shes age 5 and a bit so why am i still cleaning poo off her knickers hmmmm?

sorry for the rant esp since caitlyns hardly a toddler


Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 05 February 2007 at 3:23pm
i have had nothing .... think it was just wishful thinking before. he doesnt seem to get it or care when he has done poos in his undies. i'll have to keep plodding along i guess.

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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 22 February 2007 at 9:24am
success at last....

yesterday gabriel came into the lounge and said he had been to the toilet - nothing new in that tho and hubby and i sd thats good... then later i went into the bathroom and there it was in the unflushed toilet... Yay... i did check with hubby tho that it wasnt him..
i was bummed that i didnt get to see him do it tho and give a big hooray and make a song and dance about it... so hopefully it wont be long before he does another in there ...

our poor kids, i wonder what they would say if they knew we discussed their toilet habits online...

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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 22 February 2007 at 9:26am
oh - and earlier that day i had popped out and left the kids with hubby and when i came home i found toby with no pants on sitting on the toilet.... so maybe it wont be long before i have no kids in nappies...

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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 26 February 2007 at 5:34pm
Go Gabriel! And Toby too!

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Posted By: PandTsMummy
Date Posted: 11 March 2007 at 8:26pm
In desperate need of help in the toilet training area!! My husband and I are going mad and have tried everything we can think of but have reached the end of our patience now! Please can someone help us? Our 3 year old daughter started her toilet training on 27 Dec last year. The first day was dreadful and every time was an accident. The second day the same, but the third day something seemed to click and she mastered the wees thing quickly. Poos, she was a bit scared at first but after doing it a few times she was fine with this too. Now 2 1/2 months later she seemed to have almost gone back to square one. More with the poos than anything else. But with both things she will hold on and hold on and hold on for ages! She will be doing the toilet dance, holding her crotch and crossing her legs but when asking her if she needs the toilet she says no. So I either have to physically carry her down there kicking and screaming to go or just leave it up to her to go on her own (thought it might be a control thing), but she will sometimes just get there in the nick of time or not. With poos she won't even try and get there anymore, she just does poos in her pants and then tells us, or sometimes won't even tell us and when I ask her she denies all knowledge. I have taken her to the doctor to check there is no bladder infection as to why she doesn't want to go, I have tried backing off and not nagging or showing much interest and have tried the sticker thing again, but NOTHING IS WORKING!!! I have now got so desperate I have put her back in pull ups, because it was stressing me out so much. Can anybody help?!


Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 12 March 2007 at 9:40am
What age did yu guys start TT? Deb, I know Toby and Jake are around the same age maybe? Jake has, in the last 2 days, just started to "tell" you he needs his nappy changed, he will come to you and pull at the nappy and say "wet", it only happens, though, if the nappy is really full, so I'm thinking maybe putting him back in cloth full time, to encourage the awareness, or is he still a bit young? hhhmmm

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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 12 March 2007 at 10:15am
well i didnt start gabriel proper till he was three. at the mo toby will sit on the toilet and go pssss (the noise we used to make to try and encourage gabriel) and it is so cute. he hasnt done anything on it yet tho and doesnt tell me he is wet. i think it will be easier for toby tho cause he gets to watch gabriel. i dont put him in undies but i do encourage him to get on the toilet when he has no nappy on.

p&ts mummy - i dont really know cause i have had accidents almost every second day with gabriel - most minor but we havent got the poos thing properly sorted yet. All i can suggest is maybe go back to basics. is there something that has knocked her confidence? like a fall in the toilet?

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Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 12 March 2007 at 10:16am
Annie - Joey has done a wee in the potty twice now (and lots of times on the floor, hehehehe) I think he is probably too young to tt but he tells me when he has done "peepee" in his nappy and occasionally will tell me before hand so I can help him get on the potty. I just fgured since it's so nice and warm and he i running around without a nappy on most of the time I could just leave the potty there and see hwat happens - ne pressure :) Seems to be ok so far but not expecting him to realistically (sp?) be out of nappies anytime soon...

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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 12 March 2007 at 1:08pm
Annie I'd delay it just for yours and Charlotte's sake... that's because I started TTing Hannah when Briona was 2 weeks old and it was a bit much with so much bfing and on-call tting as well.

But in saying that, Briona is starting to get it as well. She has learnt the word "poos" and usually it just means something is in her nappy, but in the last couple of days she will sometimes tell me soon before she does poos. I might have some winter TTing coming up I guess.

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Posted By: rug_nz
Date Posted: 12 March 2007 at 11:31pm
Hey, just wanted to know if anyone TT early, any tips from here.

Ash has been using a potty for #2s since 5 months old (only had about 5 dirty naps since).

We have just started putting her on the potty at most change times (will do all soon, when get a into g), she does #1s most of the time then.


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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 13 March 2007 at 10:13am
I was TT early (10 months and I was out of nappies) but that was 25 years ago and I did live in Oz where the weather was warm enough to not be wearing anything. I would say have the potty out so she can get to it when she wants to.

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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 13 March 2007 at 1:36pm
Sorry I didn't start TTing Hannah until 20 months and introduced undies at her 2nd birthday.

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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 3:51pm
i finally got gabriel to do poos on the toilet the other night... YAY!!!!!

it seems to me if he doesnt have an accident during the day he will wait till he has his nappy on at night... so i refused to put it on until he went on the toilet.

i was very proud...its so weird standing in the loo tho watching him on the toilet, i feel a bit perverted...

anyway heres hoping we might get more on the toilet. and then after that hurdle is crossed we can look at night training...

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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 4:03pm
Wooooo! Go Gabriel!
That's cool Deb - now you know he CAN do it and it is a matter of battling his will

Hannah has regressed in a huge way since starting creche 4 days. It's driving me frigging mad.
I think it is because creche take her to the toilet every hour or so, and she doesn't have the opportunity to recognise when she is feeling 'full' and take herself off to the toilet (she was doing this previously - for the WHOLE of summer!). I absolutely refuse to go back to nappies tho as it just seems pointless (unless someone gives me lotsa money so I can buy a whole new nappy stash). She does poos fine in the toilet and will run there and climb on herself... it's just wees. The other day she had a whole day of accidents. Not one single wee in the toilet. ARGH!!!!! I have to pretty much re-train her every single weekend.

Sorry, just had to vent.

I guess I'm pissed off because she initiated this toilet training session rather than me... so I thought we were home free!

Anywayyyyy... some good news is that she has been dry at night for the last 4 nights! She is dry most nights but has only reached 4 nights in a row a couple of times. I don't wanna get my hopes up yet... especially seeing as days are going so badly, but still! Yay!


Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 9:46pm
Jake has had a "poo breakthrough" - can't take much credit for it though as it was more luck. he likes the splash sound and to wave goodbye (that sounds gross, but hey!). tried him on no naps for naps - no go. he wet the bed and got REALLY upset about it. so naptime nappies I think for a while longer.


Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 31 March 2007 at 10:04am
nikki could you speak to daycare and ask them not to take her every hour... or maybe it is related to other stuff that is going on?, a lot has happened in her world lately.

i had a wee break through today too...

i had been doubting wether gabriel was really getting it but this morning i know he has. he was still wearing his night nappy at brekkie time (cause i dont feel well) and half way thru he got down from the table and said "go toilet" and took his nappy off... i listened outside the door and boy he could have had a horse in there with him. i was so proud tho cause that is the one time he could have just gone and i wouldnt have known about it - so now i know it really has clicked...so maybe the poo thing wont be too far off now either....

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 31 March 2007 at 10:34am

I was going to say the same about the daycare. You can ask them to ask her if she needs to go not just take her there. She needs to feel that she needs to go so she can take herself there.

We had some slight problems with Andrew once Josh was here. More the nighttime problems. So now when I get up with Josh to have a feed I get Andrew up to go to the toilet before I go back to bed so we don't have a wet bed. DH wanted to put him back in pullups but I stuck my ground and told him we were not going back to them. Andrew will go straight to the toilet when he gets up in the morning which is one good thing.



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Posted By: Sunflowers
Date Posted: 06 April 2007 at 11:31pm
Quote But then you have days like yesterday... where Hannah had poos on her hand and her foot but no "pile" to be found. I am dreading the day I find this mystery poo. I'm hoping like hell she was just playing with it because if I find a month old log in my wardrobe I will not be a happy camper.


OMG this is so funny

I'm just lurking here as my DD always say "mummy, POO , POO" after she has done a poo and starting to think about training her when she turns 2.



Posted By: tashzmum
Date Posted: 14 April 2007 at 9:32pm
i am about to start tt miss two but i really need some help. our girl was two at the begining of the year and she knows when she needs to go as she stands by the bathroom but she is terrified of sitting on the potty or the toilet.she gets really upset so we left but she stil stands by the bathroom if she needs to go and she loves to follow and watch other other people go to the loo(our guests last night got a big fright) and she says poos and wees but i dont know what to do about the scared of sitting bit???and help please. i dont wanna put her in undies until she isnt scared of sitting on the potty or toilet.


Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 14 April 2007 at 10:33pm
It takes them a while to get used to sitting with nothing under them. Try sitting her on the potty (with the potty her feet can reach the floor), keep one hand on her so she feels secure, read her a story, and then regardless of whether anything is done, get her off after that. Small but steady positive steps really are the key at the beginning. Until she can get over the paranoia, she will probably hold everything in - tight! When I started TTing Hannah, I used to ignore every third "poos" call so she would get it done, cause otherwise she was just anxiously holding on and getting constipated

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Posted By: tashzmum
Date Posted: 15 April 2007 at 10:45am
cool thanks.i might see if she will sit on and watch her fav dvd.and listen to a book.


Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 15 April 2007 at 3:41pm
I think you are all going to hate me, but my boy has partially TT'd himself! I let him run around in the nuddie for weeks while it was warm & he used to watch us go to the loo....then one day he runs off, a couple of minutes later I hear the toilet flush and he comes running back & announces "I done wees!!", I didn't actually believe him but told him he had done a brilliant job. Anyway, next time he went running off to the loo I followed him & I couldn't believe it! He climbed up (monkey style) up onto the toilet, squat down & peed into the toilet. No potty, not kiddy seat, nothing. That was 3 weeks ago now I think? He still goes & has even done poos in there all by himself without me having to remind him or anything. I usually get a call following #2's for me to wipe for him (he bends over for me) but otherwise I'm not needed. ONLY PROBLEM is that he only does it while naked soooooooooo how do I get him to do it with clothes on? He gets extremely upset if he wets himself!

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Posted By: tashzmum
Date Posted: 15 April 2007 at 3:53pm
umm sorry cant help with getting him used to taking his cloths off.i am new to this myself. but well done on what you have done so far
well today has been going really well. miss 2 has decided she loves the potty and has gone wees on it several times today and has had dry knickers on all day, no wet ones.so we seem to be making progress.


Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 15 April 2007 at 5:01pm
Just wanted to say I don't hate you ... well done though!

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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 22 April 2007 at 9:35pm
yay for gabriel - he did poos on the toilet tonight.!!!   

this is only about the second time but i really think he is getting to know when he needs to go and after all the fuss we made of him hopefully it wont be long at all. and then i can finally concentrate on nights...


Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 22 April 2007 at 9:45pm
Wooohoooo Gabriel... every little bit is closer to being fully TT

I think Hannah has had quite a few accidents back in Rotorua... but is better than she was a few weeks ago. She's started running off to the toilet by herself instead of coming to me and it being a bit late. So yay! Getting there!

Must remember to get mattress protector as she is having mostly dry nights... the last stretch (before she left) was almost 2 weeks.


Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 22 April 2007 at 10:04pm
Grrrr. jake has gone back to wettin everyday. Am so frustrated as he was doing so well for a while. I ask him all the time, and he'll say no, and seconds later pee! Back to the stamps I think! anyone tried getting one of those "potty elmo" things?


Posted By: meow
Date Posted: 23 April 2007 at 8:27am
Originally posted by nikkiwhyte nikkiwhyte wrote:

Must remember to get mattress protector as she is having mostly dry nights... the last stretch (before she left) was almost 2 weeks.


Can you let me know where you get it from? We have been lazy and haven't bothered with night training yet

However, she is fully daytime trained and hasn't had an accident in months

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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 23 April 2007 at 9:13am
liz i have emma's potty me elmo and it didnt do a thing here...but emma had great success and so did another friend of hers.


Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 23 April 2007 at 9:31am
Matress protector - Warehouse. We haven't got one but I know they are there, I keep forgetting to get one when I am there.

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Posted By: meow
Date Posted: 27 April 2007 at 2:19pm
Ended up getting a mattress protector from the baby factory. It is a small mat which has pieces on each side to tuck under the mattress.

Used it last night and we took her to the toilet at 10.30pm. She was dry until she got into our bed around 2.30am.. do you think she's not ready yet? She was dry for ages a few months ago

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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 09 May 2007 at 2:37pm
Okay, we have a new strategy that seems to be working. Jake went to the toilet 20 x and as a reward got talking Shrek. Now Shrek is a bit naughty and can't go to the toilet by himself we told Jake. Jake has to "show him" how to go to the toilet and then Shrek goes. It has worked really well so far. Still a few puddles, but we are working also on the theory of not giving him attention for that, but HEAPS when he successfully pees in the toilet.

jake is really funny with shrek. He sits on the toilet and makes me hold Shrek so he can "see" and Jake says "see shrek, like this!" and then we have to hold shrek over the toilet for "his turn". It's quite funny. then they wash their hands. Now if only i can ocnvince him that shrek doesn't want to share in Bathtime...


Posted By: james
Date Posted: 09 May 2007 at 4:12pm
james has strated peeing on the toilet at childcare he has gone 2 times on thursday last week and 3 times on monday and he just pulled me to the toilet and sat there clapping for himself is it to early to tt hes almost two now but i,m worried he might be too young

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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 2:54pm
Originally posted by gandt gandt wrote:

yay for gabriel - he did poos on the toilet tonight.!!!   

this is only about the second time but i really think he is getting to know when he needs to go and after all the fuss we made of him hopefully it wont be long at all. and then i can finally concentrate on nights...


ok that post was made on the 22 april...last night gabriel FINALLY did poos on the toilet again.

it is soooo hard.


Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 2:57pm
oh james if he wants and doing well let him go for it...

i have always been of the opinion that if they can undress themselves and get off their undies ok then that is a big part of TT...


Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 3:06pm
Hi Luana, no James isn't too early to start training and apparently (hopefully) if they initiate the TT they 'get it' earlier and the TT journey is not so long. Briona's about the same age and she has just started asking to go toilet when she passes a motion. Most of the time she'll say when she's actually doing poos, but we've caught a couple in time!

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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 3:46pm
We are back in trying to use reverse-psychology on this Murphy dude after Han was dry for 2-ish weeks and then the moment we tried her nappiless at night, she peed everywhere.

So just bought two new night nappies.

She's been dry again for atleast the last 3 nights.

We'll see how we go.


Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 3:47pm
P.S. Added bonus of this method is that I really don't mind if she stays in nappies at nights because they new ones are just so cute! (Ecobubs )


Posted By: james
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 5:22pm
thanks guys i think james might of been a fadd but hopefully tt wont be far away

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Posted By: Leish
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 6:37pm
Heres a bit of a laugh for you ladies doing the TT thing at the moment. Our cats toilet trained Christopher. He was about two-ish and out the front of our house and came inside with no pants on one day and proudly announced that he had done poos in the garden. I was mortified and went looking for it and sure enough - there it was in the garden. He thought that was where you did poos cos thats what the cats did!! It was hilarious - esp the next time he did it and DH found him squating in the garden

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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 8:11pm
Jake has started crying and coming to me saying Poos, mama when he's done poos and wanting to sit on the loo (you know, shuting the stable door after the horse has bolted...)I think we are getting close..

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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 30 July 2007 at 9:09am
bump....


Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 23 August 2007 at 4:31pm
wooohoooo!!!

we had some success today with gabriel doing poos in the toilet all by himself at his own instigation. Yay!
i was at the clothes line and i could hear him yelling and when i asked where are you he said in the bathroom, uh oh i thought... i went in and he is sitting on the loo and he points in there and said Look! ever so proud he was too. and so was i...

Ahhh the things a mother is proud of..!!     


Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 23 August 2007 at 4:54pm
Originally posted by fattartsrock fattartsrock wrote:

Jake has started crying and coming to me saying Poos, mama when he's done poos and wanting to sit on the loo (you know, shuting the stable door after the horse has bolted...)I think we are getting close..


Annie this is where Briona is now at, how is Jake getting on now?

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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 23 August 2007 at 5:20pm
toby tells me when he has done poos but hasnt indicated he wants the toilet.


Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 23 August 2007 at 5:22pm
Oh yeah, I meant to say here than Han is out of night nappies! Yay! I've been putting it off for so long, keeping her in nappies even when she's been dry, and finally decided to scrap them when she started wanting to wear knickers. Anyway, I take her to the toilet just before I go to sleep and it's been working well!!

Sorry for jumping in Theresa. I just wanted to be publicly proud of my little girl!


Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 23 August 2007 at 5:24pm
Oops, just read the rest of the posts.

Well done Gabriel!! He sounds like he's on track now


Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 23 August 2007 at 6:10pm
Yay for hannah!!!!


Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 23 August 2007 at 6:45pm
np Nikki, all in different stages - although I'm a little jealous that my Hannah isn't there yet. Well done for yours!

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Posted By: Helen21
Date Posted: 23 August 2007 at 8:43pm
I'm a bit confused and I am in need of your thoughts on the matter.

Miya(21mths) has started taking her nappy off at every chance, she also has been taking me by the hand to the toilet after she has pooed in her nappy.
Anyway I have tried putting her in knickers and she would decide to sit on the toilet but won't stay on there for more than 20secs despite books and songs, once she is off the toilet less than 5mins later she wets herself and gets upset.

I feel it could be a bit soon to start TT but she is so keen I'm not sure what to do.

Any ideas?


Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 23 August 2007 at 8:49pm
maybe keep her in nappies but put her on the toilet or potty (whichever you are going to use) as often as possible too ...we make a routine of going to the toilet before a bath for both boys...


Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 23 August 2007 at 9:24pm
helen21 jack went through that stage about 6mths ago i think and i thought about starting TT. i put him on the toilet as often as i could, mostly at nappy changes and in the morning and nights.
then we left it for a while and started full time TT about a month ago. i think giving it that little bit longer to wait has made it alot easier for him to get the grasp of the toileting.



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Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 23 August 2007 at 9:28pm
go gabriel and hannah!!!

out of nappies at night hannah...what a clever girl!

GandT...it is sad the things we are excited about as parents isn't it!   jack is doing really well with his TT, will tell me he wants to go to the toilet but not to great with when he wants to do poos
oh well, it will come.

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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 24 August 2007 at 8:30am
Helen that's about where Briona is at, except that she can't take her nappies off . I put her on the loo when she asks, so it becomes familiar, and sometimes we have got some twinkles in there! And then change her. She's becoming more aware of when she is doing stuff (not when she's about to, though) and doesn't like partly-wet nappies (which didn't bother her at 1yo). So it's an early stage, just run with it but keep the nappies on.

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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 24 August 2007 at 8:49am
Yeah, like the others said, don't expect too much from her at this stage but praise her a lot when she does do stuff. She'll start getting the idea and later will recognise before she has to go (tho even Hannah still struggles with this when she's too busy to go! argh!)


Posted By: Helen21
Date Posted: 24 August 2007 at 9:54am
Thanks for the advice, I was just watching her this morning and she wanted to go on the toilet straight after Chloe went on it so I'm thinking maybe it's her just wanting to copy her big sis instead of wanting to TT.


Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 24 August 2007 at 10:21am
ok, time for my big mummy brag.........this morning, jack came and said 'need to go toilet' and off we went....he did #2's!!!!!!

i was so excited, i'm pathetic he's never told me he needs to go BEFORE he did poos in his pants so it's a great start to the day. i think he may have this TT thing sussed now after about a month or so.

i'm taking him to farmers to get a mush a belly today because he filled his reward chart for dry pants all week

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Posted By: Helen21
Date Posted: 24 August 2007 at 10:31am
That's great! he's all grown up now!


Posted By: nictoddie
Date Posted: 25 September 2007 at 10:07am
hehe this is gonna drive me insane, Miss m is in knickes today and has been on the potty once in the past hour, and keeps whipping her knickers off and sitting on the potty which is a good thing! Her brother was really hard to train but he got it in a week night and day all at once which was great but not sure I'm ready for this hehe!

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