Panicking
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Topic: Panicking
Posted By: toniellis
Subject: Panicking
Date Posted: 09 April 2005 at 10:13am
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Hi everyone. This is going to sound so silly to you I'm sure.
I have a five moth old boy and was quite looking forward to trying for number two soon. I would have liked about 18 months - 2 years between them. Now I think I might be pregnant (accidentally) and after reading some stuff in "Advise on Age Gap" I am really terrified that it is way too soon. I havn't said anything to my partner yet. We weren't going to start trying until the end of this year so I don't know what to say. Any advice would be great   ------------- Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6) Successful HWB VBA2Cs! Soon to be surrogate |
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Posted By: kas
Date Posted: 09 April 2005 at 4:30pm
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Hi there Toniellis Wow that would be scary but just talk to your partner i'm sure he will be fine remember he played apart in conceiving the baby as well (if you are pregnant). Me and my husband found out we were having twins 3 weeks ago and i was s**t scared but my mum kept saying to me god doesn't give you anything you can't handle. Good Luck and keep us informed as to when you do a pregnancy test. Everything will be fine. ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 09 April 2005 at 9:00pm
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Take the test! It's the only sure way to know if you're worrying yourself over nothing. And if you are pregnant, I'm sure you wil be fine. These things happen for a reason. Maya was a very big whoopsie, but I don't regret it for a second. And talking to your partner might help you get the support you need at a tricky time.
Good luck, and I will keep my fingers crossed that you aren't since that's what you want. -------------  Maya Grace (28/02/03)
 (02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 09 April 2005 at 9:24pm
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definately take the test already!! Both of my children were conceived, well, unexpectedly - we weren't outwardly trying, but we weren't doing much to stop it either. and yep when i was first preggers this time i was scared as heck too.. in fact up till about half way through i was petrified about how i would cope, but recieved lots of helpful advice and reassurance from these lovely ladies. I still have moments every now and then but I can rationalize my way out of them now... lol.. sometimes even if you are thinking about it.. it's alot different to being faced with the situation.. and when it happens and it's out of your "control" then you can get a bit jolted by it. I'll see if i can find my initial post i wrote when i thought i was preggers this time and have a look.. i'm pretty sure i was just as scared and unsure as you are...
here you go, i copied it and pasted from my post i started about 5 days before i found out: "Sept, 27, i couldn't wait any longer, i took a test this morning.. there is a free pregnancy service across from paris' daycare.. so off i went.. and it was positive. so my feeling was spot on. i'm still a bit numb and shaky, we are both sorta thinking.. omigod.." that's pretty mild. but i think if you have a look on most of the posts that us second-timers have started or contributed to, we have all been just as worried. it's natural to worry about how you will fit another child into your life. take the test, then either way ou can start figuring it all out. hope this helps. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja 
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Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 10 April 2005 at 5:30pm
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How soon can you take a test? I had two periods regular as clockwork after I had Alex and then a very light one then nothing so I'm not really sure when to test.
I kind of want to just forget about it and if it happens it happens. I honestly thought it would be too early for me to be able to get pregnant as Alex is only five months old & I'm still breastfeeding him and I was told the chances are only like 2% for it happening? I am worried what everyone is going to say if I am pregnant AGAIN. I have only just turned 21 and I had planned to get my uni studies out of the way first as I hav got two more years of part time study & we are moving out of Auckland as well and about 2 hours away from any family & friends hence why I am terrified. I don't want to end up a stressed out parent who screams at her children for nothing :-( ------------- Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6) Successful HWB VBA2Cs! Soon to be surrogate |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 10 April 2005 at 9:37pm
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no, not too early - there's huge criteria for breastfeeding being a successful contraceptive.. has to be a certain amount per day etc, overall it's not really very effective at all... and it will usually delay your period - if you have had your period then you are just as fertile as ever i'm guessing.
beleive me i know exactly how you feel with the study thing.. i was 20 when i began my nursing, got preg at end of first year, delivered half way through 2nd year. and took some time off then they split my papers and i have had to do part time up till now. i begin my 3rd yr 6 wks after baby is born.. that's 2 yrs of part time study to finish 6 months worth of papers..argh! and don't stress about everyone else.. i had the same thing.. my family were like "oh, now you'll never finish your nursing what a waste, blah blah" now they have seen that i am carrying on no matter what they have shut their mouths. good luck. you never know it could just be stress.. but take a test and see. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: kas
Date Posted: 11 April 2005 at 11:14am
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I think you should just take the test so you can have peace of mind. Everything will work its self out. Don't worry about what other people think, i know thats easy to say but it will just stress you out otherwise and no body likes stress. So take the test and let us know the results, just keep in mind you could be worring about nothing. GOOD LUCK ------------- http://lilypie.com"> http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 11 April 2005 at 12:10pm
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Well I went & bought a test this morning and so I did it and it has one bold line and one really really faint one. You can hardly even see it.
Is this a positive?? I read the instructions and it said one of them can be fainter than the other but you can hardly even see the second line on my test.
Is there any quicker way of finding out if it was a positive? Or do I just have to wait for a couple of weeks and try again? ------------- Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6) Successful HWB VBA2Cs! Soon to be surrogate |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 11 April 2005 at 12:14pm
| thats a positive Toniellis. when i found out i was pregantn, I did about six of those tests....all positive. Why don't you go to the doctor. he can give you a blood test which wil confirm or dispel your test. |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 11 April 2005 at 1:03pm
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yep that's positive.. both of mine were like that, VERY faint. if you really want to be sure, try a test in another 2 days or so..but otherwise, just go to the doc like lizzle said.. after all - it should be considered a maternity visit, and therefore free (for the first 12 wks of pregnancy). ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 11 April 2005 at 1:14pm
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Well I will give it a few days & do another test. If it comes up positive then I will go see the doctor.
Tried to talk to my partner about having a second baby and he keeps avoiding the subject. Then this morning he said that he doesn't even want to think about having another one until the end of the year like we had planned. He pretty much listed the reasons why it would be a bad idea and he is so right so what am I going to do?  ------------- Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6) Successful HWB VBA2Cs! Soon to be surrogate |
Posted By: bub
Date Posted: 11 April 2005 at 1:33pm
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hey
your should tell your partner that you think you might be pregnant so you have his support even if he doesnt want another baby just yet im sure he will support you. You can go to the doctor so you could find out for sure. i think your test was a positive like mine.let us no how you get on. Rachel & Brianna 
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 11 April 2005 at 1:47pm
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yep tell him - if he doesn't know outright then he probably will say and do things that make you think he will never accept it..
when i told mike, he went all white and shaky and nearly flaked in the middle of his office. but then after that all he wanted to do was tell people. before then, every time i had brought up the idea he had been the same as your partner. with guys, subtle hints don't work, obvious hints don't work.. just tell him. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: kerryberry
Date Posted: 11 April 2005 at 2:14pm
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Yeah it kind of sounds to me like maybe your partner thinks you are wanting to try for another one. Be up front with him that this is not what you had planned either, tell him its not a case of wanting to "try" for another, but that you think you are already pregnant. I am quite sure he will support you 100%, as I said its not like it was something you had planned for right now anymore than he is.
Good Luck  ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 11 April 2005 at 2:29pm
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I cant beleive you have been going through all this worry by yourself. Let him know, so you can support each other, and talk things over. ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: kas
Date Posted: 11 April 2005 at 3:21pm
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Talk to him he needs to know whats going on so that he can support you, he may be shocked but so were you and he will get over it, (of course being a male it may take him abit longer lol ) Good Luck ------------- http://lilypie.com"> http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 11 April 2005 at 4:41pm
| ooh, and let us know what happens!! A lot of people say athat having a small age gap bewtween kids is good for their relationship and you WILL cope with another baby! |
Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 11 April 2005 at 5:32pm
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Kerryberry is right... be upfront and tell him! If he knows its not planned, but still happening at least he's prepared!
You've got us to vent to if he doesn't take it well... ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 11 April 2005 at 10:23pm
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Oh k girls. I told him! And he is in denial I think. He was like "are you sure? if its only faint it might really be negative. lets just wait & see what happens before we think about it". I feel sorry for him! I know he loves me but he has got so much going on at the moment that I don't blame him for not wanting to talk about it, but where does that leave me?
At least I have got you ladies to talk to. I also told my mum and I think that was a very bad idea. She is not happy with me. I think the term was baby making machine  ------------- Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6) Successful HWB VBA2Cs! Soon to be surrogate |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 12 April 2005 at 2:36am
| Toni - to tell the truth when I found out I was pregnant - was not the happiest time of my life. My husband and I disagreed about what to do...however, two months later when we saw bub at the scan, all was forgotten. And it will happen that way for you too I think. Now, it's a bit of a shock, but after it's worn off, I hope you'll both be excited. As for your mum, you are a grown adult. If you want to have another baby, thats up to you (and your partner i guess!!). It's not like you have twenty of them or anything!! |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 12 April 2005 at 8:37am
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Let him be in deinal.. he will come round.. if you try and force him he will get resentful - give him time.. just like you need time too.. to get his head round the idea.. and he will appreciate it. It's a big thing to get your head around.. jumping from 1 to 2 kids. and yep, you can talk to us on here.
same with your mum.. she will get used to the idea.. i spose sometimes mum's want more for their daughters.. but what they don't realise it that nowdays as long as we put our hearts into it, we can be succesful mums as well as have careers etc. "baby making machine" though.. is a bit harsh. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: bub
Date Posted: 12 April 2005 at 2:28pm
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hey
good on you for telling both of them now they can have time to get used to the idea of another baby if there is one.we all like to hear how everyone gets on with things so yeah we are always here to chat. Rachel & Brianna |
Posted By: lou
Date Posted: 12 April 2005 at 2:44pm
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We can't always plan these things, but in a few years time you will look back and wonder what you were so worried about. You will be just fine. A tip for when you take the next test - take it using your first pee in the morning. It helps to give a clearer result if you are All the best ------------- Mother to two beautiful children - Sophie age 6 and Ephraim age 4 |
Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 12 April 2005 at 3:20pm
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dont forget you were panicked and in denial when you first thought you might be too, so your partners reaction is normal... also men have this weird brain and his first thoughts are probably going to be along the lines of "how am i going to support my family now". as for your mum, shell get over it, i mean who can resist a newborn. ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker"> 
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Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 12 April 2005 at 4:21pm
I read part of these posts to my husband, and his response was "and baby making machine's a bad thing?" 
In all seriousness, your mum will come round - and it's not like she's got any say in the matter anyway! Once your partner has got used to the idea, he'll be more supportive of you. ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
Posted By: kas
Date Posted: 12 April 2005 at 5:02pm
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Give him time he will come round, besides he did help in putting the baby in there Hang in there and keep on smiling. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Nicky08
Date Posted: 12 April 2005 at 8:44pm
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My partner had the same reaction with our first baby! and so did my mum now look at her shes the granny who has being putting all the post on here about her lovely granson haha. Hang in there things will sort there self out eventually. good luck ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://nickybeeching.bebo.com
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 13 April 2005 at 2:42am
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I think we as the mums are a bit luckier. We haev a lot longer to get used to the ideas. I was used to having to put the baby before myself long before my husband had to think about the same kinda things. I was used to the fact that we would have a baby before he was. Guys are a bit slow!!
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Posted By: bub
Date Posted: 13 April 2005 at 11:25am
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my partner left me wen i fell pregnant with our daughter but as soon as it came close to having her he started getting more interested after i had her he fell in love with her straight away and wouldnt change anything for the world now. im sure things will all work out for the best.they just need time well you do to
hang in there you will all get through it. goodluck. Rachel & Brianna ------------- mother to Brianna, Amelia & Mathew. http://lilypie.com">  
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 13 April 2005 at 5:56pm
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hannah's dad is still in denial that she is his kid.
boys are stupid. [i think i'm a bit bitter and twisted!] i wish you the best of luck and i'm sure everything will work out fine and dandy. a lot can happen in 9 months!!! 
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Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 13 April 2005 at 7:06pm
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Nikki, you are allowed to be a little bitter - I was too, Kiya's biological father is also still in denial. Just remember, ladies, that this is their 2nd child, so there's a lot less chance that he'll leave! I'm sorry if I offend anyone, but us cynics must remember not everyone is going to go through all the crap we did.
I bet it won't be long before you come home, Toni, and your partner either tells you he was looking at baby stuff or has actually bought something! ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
Posted By: kas
Date Posted: 13 April 2005 at 8:08pm
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I would be bitter and twisted if my partner did the whole denial thing but thank god i dont have to worry about that. My husband is the best man in the world and couldn't be more supportive we had our first child when he was 17 got married when he 21 and now we are having twins, people said that we were too young but i think it is safe to say we have proved them wrong and lucky for me i found someone who isn't into party's or getting pissed every weekend. I think i got one of the good one's. Toni hope everything is slowly getting better for you and your man and that he is getting used to the idea a bit more every day ------------- http://lilypie.com"> http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 13 April 2005 at 10:47pm
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Well I went to the doctor's today. He hasn't been able to confirm it yet I think because it is too early. When I got pregnant with Alex I found out at 4 weeks I just had a feeling the same with this one. My partner Spencer is still kinda shocked but I know he will be ok. I havn't told anyone else in the family because I have a history of miscarriage (two babies gone but not forgotten).
He loves Me & our son very much so I'm positive that he will be the same for our second baby. And if this is the one then it will be a lot earlier than planned! I will keep you all informed if number two is on the way tho! Thanks everyone for being oh so great ------------- Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6) Successful HWB VBA2Cs! Soon to be surrogate |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 13 April 2005 at 11:44pm
| oh my gosh Nikki and Becs. That must be rough with the daddies! But in the end it is them who miss out! AndI'm glad your partner is feeling a little more "with it" now! |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 15 April 2005 at 11:26pm
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don't worry, i'm working on finding hannah a better daddy
still gotta do paternity test as well tho. somehow i don't think the test will make a difference with chris, but atleast he'll be forced by the IRD to be financially responsible for hannah. the thing that sucks is that chris's family wants to meet hannah but can't while he doesn't want anything to do with her. toni... glad everything is getting better! i think even your mum will come around... grandmothers always do
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 16 April 2005 at 9:21am
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dont mean to be nosy nikki but why cant his family meet hannah just cause he dont want to (is it some legal thing?) it must be hard for them knowing they have a grandchild they cant be family to. ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 16 April 2005 at 10:02am
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When Willie and I split up when Maya was 3 mths old he asked for a DNA test, but when I told him how much it cost he suddenly realised how much Maya actually looks like him
But as I said in another post, I have always been lucky that his family accept both Maya and I even when he was being a complete idiot. His sister even told me off for not bringing Maya to see them, and when I went to court for custody of Maya they were really supportive. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 16 April 2005 at 10:41am
| i feel sorery for the dad's parents sometimes. as Nikki says, sometimes the parents want to get involved but fee like they can't if the dad is stupid....must be the same when dad takes off huh! Boys ARE stupid. I will make it my duty to make sure jake is smart! |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 16 April 2005 at 1:32pm
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hehe i was quite glad when i had a girl... someone to be a man hater along with me!
well... i think it is time for me to tell my story... sorry toni, completely cahnged your topic to be all about me me me! hannah's dad and i were never together - brief summer fling, all fun and games! i was really good friends with chris's little sister [that's how i knew him]. i found out i was pregnant at 16 weeks, i'd had an inkling i was pregnant but thought at the most i was 8 weeks. chris didn't take the whole pregnancy thing very well, being a free ranger and in that nasty boy stage of sleeping with whoever he could get his hands on (i wasn't sleeping with him by this stage!) his sister also took it very badly because she thought i wasn't taking the pregnancy seriously enough (i react really calmly to the craziest situations!) and when i decided to keep the baby they all went off their rockers and tried to tell me to get an abortion blah blah blah... i was at otago uni, so i'd been drinking before i found out (as you do at otago) and they pulled that one on me too "you are so selfish bringing a child into this world that might have fetal alcohol syndrome" etc etc but for some reason i didn't feel right abou thavign a termination, especially as it was so far through. (i had a week to make a decision about keeping the baby) anywayyy... i'll skip the rest because i could go on forever... but i talked to pip (chris's sister) the other day and we kinda sorted things out between us. (her and chris don't talk anymore) and zoe (chris's mum) rang me after i talked to pip and told me how much she wanted to see hannah but didn't feel right abou tit until chris accepts that he is her father... which probably won't happen until after the paternity tests, if at all. in the mean time i get to watch my lovely daughter grow up and even through all this crap, i know that i got the best end of the deal! |
Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 16 April 2005 at 1:55pm
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Of course you got the best end of the deal! ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 16 April 2005 at 3:29pm
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thank you for telling your story - it made me all teary eyed.. (i blame the pregnancy hormones) i think it would be easier to be a single parent than try to parent with someone who tries to make it hard for you...and emma you make me laugh so much... one look at maya and you cant deny at all where she came from, the little cherub. ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 16 April 2005 at 5:05pm
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Little cherub - more like a little toad! But she is the spitting image of her daddy - I call her my little white Willie hehe.
Thank you for sharing your story Nikki. I can kind of relate, Willie was happy that I was preg to start with, then started drinking again (he is a recovering alcoholic) so we split up when I was 15 wks preg, then got back together, then split up again when Maya was 3 mths old. He wasn't involved in the pregnancy at all, never came to the scans etc, or to her birth, and for the first 12 mths of her life she saw so little of him that she didn't even recognise him. he came drunk to her christening, and when she was in hospital at 10 mths and really really sick he never came to visit once. But luckily for her (andme  ) he has had a huge attitude readjustment and for the last year he has been awesome with Maya, looking after her when I need time out, came to her meningitis jabs... So good in fact that I remembered what I loved about him to start with, and we are getting married
Anyways, I didn't want to hijack your thread, but I think you are doing a great job with Hannah, I know how hard it is to be a single mum with no/very little support (and at uni). You are a legend! ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 16 April 2005 at 6:41pm
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ugh, guys are so stupid at that "spader" stage...
Nikki you are doing a great job, doesn't matter what age you are or whether the father is around.. everyone has the potential to be a great mum.. from what i can tell you have no trouble fulfilling that role. I could never study if I didn't have mikes support (took a while but its all good now) that fact that you are doing it alone is awesome. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 12:08am
| hey Nikki do you have hannah in the halls in wellington? |
Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:27am
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Being a parent is the hardest (and most rewarding) job in the world, even when you have a partner to help. I admire all the mums that tackle it by themselves. Im sure when Hannah grows up she will see what a fantastic mummy she has, who managed to even go to uni with a baby! ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:59am
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thanks guys
I'm having a great time, and to be honest i've got it way easier financially than a student couple with a baby. (Yes, am using your tax money for my education!) Can't wait to get out there and do it on my own though... well, as soon as I get over my fear of being in the big wide world. Lizzle... yep I'm in the halls. Everton Hall, which is a whole lot of flats for mature students. I managed to get a one bedroom and have since weaseled my way into the flat next door which has 6 people. So really my little flat is an extention of the other flat. They miss Hannah if they don't see us all day! One of the students there is also a reliever at one of the VUW creches so she is mighty handy to have around! No shortage of baby sitters - heaps of clucky girls around! And this site has been a huge help to me. I remember when I found out I was pregnant I was searching on the net to find out more about what was going on with my body and I came across this site. It has been awesome being a part of this message board for the advice but most of all just for the contact with other mothers. I don't know a lot of them! So - You guys are fantastic! And it is cool seeing someone like you Emma, who had a bit of a crap time at first, come out the other end still smiling and with a gorgeous little girl to show for it! It's all motivation for me
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Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 06 May 2005 at 8:26pm
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hi toniellis, just wondering if youd done another pregnancy test?
------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 06 May 2005 at 9:36pm
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yeah i was wondering that the other day too actually.. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 07 May 2005 at 10:08am
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Hi guys. I went to the doctors and got it confirmed then a couple of days later I started bleeding quite heavily and lost the baby. I haven't been on here much except in the last couple of days coz I didn't really want to talk about it then. I've got three angel babies now.
------------- Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6) Successful HWB VBA2Cs! Soon to be surrogate |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 07 May 2005 at 10:50am
| oh, Tonielllis, I'm so sorry! |
Posted By: Xander&Harmony
Date Posted: 07 May 2005 at 10:51am
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So sorry to hear your sad news.My sympathies go out to your family. ------------- BECS http://www.sparklee.com"> 
Angel Baby 10/07/09 (10wks4days) |
Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 07 May 2005 at 12:14pm
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So sorry to hear that, toniellis. My sympathies to you and your family. ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
Posted By: nuttymama
Date Posted: 07 May 2005 at 1:14pm
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I am so so sorry toniellis. ------------- Abigail 06/01/2005 Jayden 21/11/2001 Micheal 03/04/1997 |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 07 May 2005 at 2:22pm
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That is sad to hear. Hugs to you. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 07 May 2005 at 2:31pm
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my sympathies toni
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Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 08 May 2005 at 7:56am
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So sorry for your loss toniellis ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |