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Topic: ’4real’
Posted By: Mikaela
Subject: ’4real’
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 1:37pm
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Anyone else see this couple on Closeup the other night?
What are your thoughts on this one - are BDM being reasonable or unreasonable here? There's an http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/6/story.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=10447051 - article about them in today's Herald for anyone who missed the Closeup story. ------------- http://www.bump-and-beyond.com"> 
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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 1:50pm
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BDM are only following the guidelines that have been set down.
I have a cousin who wanted to name his baby Duke and was told you can't cause its a title. New Zealand has quite relaxed rules compared to some counties, I guess its a case by case basis. Initially I thought the name was ok, but then when they said they were going to name their next baby 4 Sure and 4 Eva, maybe thats taking the mickey a bit. |
Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 1:56pm
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Were these people of the trailer trash or bogan persuasion? didn't see the show...
------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 1:58pm
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Also, I think BDM are within theire rights against stopping ridiculous names, and should be tougher. Now, I'm not saying our country should do this, but there are some countries where there is a list of "acceptable" names you can use. I am thinking that these two didn't have enough brain cells between them to think about when that child is an adult trying to be taken seriously... ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: Lissy
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 2:13pm
I saw the clip on yahoo news this morning. I could'nt not believe what I was hearing.  I agree with fleury. They have got to be taking the mickey. This is not right. Poor Child  ------------- Harlan Drew DOB: 06.12.06 & Stepmum to Ethan & Christian, DOB: 25.02.99 |
Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 2:27pm
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Did you read down a bit further about Drew Peacock? lol ------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 2:44pm
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I'm just glad BDM stepped in and said no - I mean, that poor child! I'm all for parental choice, but numbers are not names! -------------  Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 2:48pm
| The father was a real estate agent, felt like he was using his son as a gimmick. The poor child, I pitty him when he goes to school. |
Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 2:51pm
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One of BDMs criteria. 'It is also advised that parents avoid names which would cause their child to be teased or made fun of'
I would be suprised if there was a single person who hadn't been made fun of cause of their name. |
Posted By: caraMel
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 3:05pm
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I think its a silly name and surely there is at least one other name they had thought of before he was born?
I'm all for the right to give your child an unconventional name but I agree with Emma, a number is not a name! ------------- Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and: 
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Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 3:08pm
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What??? Good grief! Surely they had other names in mind before the scan! ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 3:09pm
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Snap caraMel! ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
Posted By: Bumble
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 3:39pm
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What on earth posseses these parents to call them STUPID names. puhlease....
------------- formerly known as "Bee" Ethan ~ March 2003 Big 6 year old school boy! Micah ~ Aug 2008 ~ Smiley pants who loves telephones! |
Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 4:02pm
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Yeah I'm all for parental choice too but really what a stupid sodding name!!!! Poor kid.... ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 4:10pm
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I was just reading through the "my views" section, I like the idea of changing it to "Foreal" and making it the middle name....surely that would be a sensible compromise? ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 5:17pm
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 5:49pm
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i say let them have it....the kid can always change his name by deed poll when hes an adult.
i mean it wasnt that long ago that people laughed at parents naming their children after vehicles (like harley etc) and what about the boy whose name is Boy.?? ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker"> 
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Posted By: arohanui
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 6:45pm
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Oh my gosh that is so funny... DH and I were talking about baby names the other day and I joked that we should name our baby 7. Yep just 7. The other option was Nebuchadnezzar, so that shows the extent of the conversation.
I agree that numbers aren't names... and I think it's good that BDM stepped in. But then again, don't you think Nebuchadnezzar is just as cruel? What if we seriously wanted to name our kid that, I'm sure we'd be allowed to? Where do you draw the line? ------------- Mama to DS1 (5 years), DS2 (3 years) and... http://alterna-tickers.com" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 7:01pm
Ha Ha.  ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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gandt wrote:Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 7:30pm
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Rod wanted to all Jake Axel or Knut... You can see why there is sooo many ways that name would go wrong, aye... (it's in a baby name dictionary, pronounced Ka Noot) ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 7:33pm
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OR the guy from My Name is Earl, his son is called Pilot Inspektor. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 8:20pm
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These people shouldn't have the right to name their children if they give them such ridiculous names. It's just cruel.
Car names - fine. No probs there. They ARE names of something in the first place. But 4 Real? Honestly, these people need to be hit over the head because clearly they're not thinking straight. What horrible people! Isn't it every parents job to stop their children from being teased/harrassed etc? |
Posted By: Mikaela
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 9:06pm
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Mercedes was a saint long before it was the name of a car, right?? ------------- http://www.bump-and-beyond.com">
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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 9:15pm
It's a good thing you have 30 weeks of pg left  ------------- |
Posted By: Bombshell
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 9:27pm
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i think spelling it forreal would be ok - weird but ok! and real estate agent or not they def sound trailer trash to me....you can take them out of the trailer but...
I went to school with heaps of "girlie" and "boy" - can anyone say south auckland in the 70s? Now that way of naming should be outlawed too!!! I still think a name can stop someone getting a job etc later on in life....people should think more carefully.... |
Posted By: Leelee
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 9:59pm
| I heard the being interviewed on The Edge the other morning, I think he seriously had some screw loose but thats just my opinion. I am all for parental rights but that was just taking it a bit far, the poor child, just imagine how much that kid will get teased. Glad BDM stepped in and wouldnt allow it. |
Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 10:04pm
I totally agree! Whether people like to think it or not, their children will one day be adults and may possibly want to be respected. How are you respected when your parents have called you '4 real' or '4 sure'?!
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 10:14pm
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there was a little girl whose parents were in the ww a yearago or so, and she had died. she was named V8. seriously.
In japan there are rather strict rules with the kanji (characters) that can be used as names. |
Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 22 June 2007 at 8:29am
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As far as I am aware, France has a list of "approved" names that prospective parents choose from. I know they did, I'm fairly sure they still do (too lazy to check)
And celebs with weird names for children? Rob Morrow (Don Epps on Numb3rs) and his wife Debon Ayre (sp?) wanted their daughter to have a fun name like her mum so they named her Tu. Yes, Tu Morrow. They call her Tui like the bird as a nickame. ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 22 June 2007 at 10:25am
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WTF? Hey, V8's mum is in the NZWW this week. Here's a question? How come she could do v8, but 4real got vetoed? Both stupid names in my opinion, anyhow.. ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: yummymummy
Date Posted: 22 June 2007 at 10:26am
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OMG! Wonder how many of those kiddies will apply to change their names as soon as they can! ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: miss
Date Posted: 22 June 2007 at 11:44am
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Fattartsrock - the reason is that you can have a number in the name, but it cannot start with a number. Probbably because of the difficulties numbers at the start would give to alphabetising and stuff liket hat, more than it simply being a stupid name.
Yeah, i can see me goingto a lawyer/doctor etc called 4real. :tui: -------------  
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Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 22 June 2007 at 2:12pm
yeah it will be. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: bookwyrm
Date Posted: 22 June 2007 at 3:56pm
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Found a petition to allow the name 4Real.
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/baby4real ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 22 June 2007 at 4:06pm
Gee now is it just me or is that petition really taking the mickey?? 
That's one I won't be signing! ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: bookwyrm
Date Posted: 22 June 2007 at 4:17pm
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I signed it, knowing it wont make a difference... boredom I guess. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: MummyFreckle
Date Posted: 22 June 2007 at 7:59pm
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I heard on National Radio (yes I am sad, old and boring) that the parents have come to a compromise with BDM. Dont know what it is, but suspect they have to spell it out in letters rather than use the number. I personally think this is so stupid, and the poor child is going to be effected for life. I think that everyone is shaped by their name, whether consciously or not. You very rarely come across a female judge, doctor or lawyer with a name like Bluebell or Pixie do you? (For the record - both of these names were on my girls name list...!!
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Posted By: Lissy
Date Posted: 22 June 2007 at 8:06pm
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[QUOTE=ladyluck]Found a petition to allow the name 4Real. I wont be signing this. Maybe there should be one to say "NO" to this silly silly name.... ------------- Harlan Drew DOB: 06.12.06 & Stepmum to Ethan & Christian, DOB: 25.02.99 |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 10:15am
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My sister reckons Roxy, Candy and Mercedes are strippers names, she reckons my Mercedes will have no choice but to be a stripper coz of her name *rolls eyes* ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 11:38am
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no, strippers names are spelt Merserdeez ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: Deez
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 12:16pm
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Wow what a response...Personally I like the name obviously not the way it is spelt but there are other ways they can spell the name to make it more attractive....Foreal, Phreal...
Everyone has a right to choose their childs name regardless of what other people think, and respect is gained by your actions and what kind of person you are it has nothing to do with a name.... Remember 4real maybe the name they register him under but he may be known as something else...like his middle name.. My son has a different name too so I am in no place to judge those parents who come up with strange/unusual names... It is obvious we are not all going to agree one way or the other but there is no need to make snarky remarks about the parents or what they will name their other children....none of us know if the child will like/hate his name or even if he will be teased at school...we are all just make assumptions. -------------  
Lycan and Peyton = Moon and back!! |
Posted By: MyBelly
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 1:41pm
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So if they spell 4real, phoreal, or something like that, are they going to spell their next child (4sure) foreshore? surely that will also have some debate about it? either that or later in life the child will be asked, 'oh so your parents had something to do with he foreshore and seabed issues??'
im just saying, that u kinda do have to think of the kid, why give them one name and not mind if they hate it so much they want to change it by the time they are 10 to stop the bullying??? just my opinion, you have to look at the effect it will have on the child |
Posted By: Kels
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 4:19pm
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Me either ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
Busy mum to Miss 15yrs, Miss 10yrs and Master 4yrs |
Posted By: Sarah Beth
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 5:23pm
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there are different names and then there is just mean. In my teaching training I came across the Duck family, childrens names were Donald and Daisy. Then for unimaginative, triplets named April May and June.
I am happy for originatilty, but then it can be taken too far ------------- "> 
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Posted By: Kels
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 6:09pm
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Yeah I agree it can be taken too far. In my nursing career I have come across a Flyriver, Thankyou and Blue bell just to name a few. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
Busy mum to Miss 15yrs, Miss 10yrs and Master 4yrs |
Posted By: miss
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 10:33pm
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ANf the names acid and hash, or kurupt are NEVER suitable. They are a form of abuse and i cannot believe they were allowed.
there is unusual - heck, you think yuo guys have unusual names? look at the ethnicv names out there now. And there is downright cruel. That is why ther has to be some form of intervention out there. -------------
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 10:22am
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Emma - did you watch My name is Earl last night? He had a piece of advice for a girl named Summer "Just because you have a stripper name, doesn't mean you have to grow up to be a stripper" (wisdom from the man who named his son Pilot Inspektor)
P.S. Can't wait to see what your sister is going to name her kids. You could just yawn every time she calls them and mutter "borrring"
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Posted By: Peanut
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 2:05pm
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My DH taught the Ford family who had named their sons Fairlane and Fairmont...nice!
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Posted By: lil_miss
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 10:35pm
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I think there is a difference between unusual names and thoughtless names...
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 8:51am
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Lycan and Alize are names, though.. When I see Lycan, I think of a olden times knight and Alize makes me think of a romantic poet guy.. ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 9:15am
She has "reserved" Max and Isabelle -yawn! And LMAO at My Name Is Earl - he's so right! My baby doesn't have to be a stripper, she could be a truck driver instead ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 9:15am
Yep, I like Lycan and Alize, and they are both proper names. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 9:54am
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There are names and then there are nouns, they are not necessarily the same thing. Lycan and Alize are actual names for people. There are children out there called Riot and Kaos, Foreal isn't a name its a slogan. Its like calling your kid Coke or Pepsi.
I wish parents would put some thought into what they name their children, I've had to go thru life with a name my parents picked from a movie. By the time I was old enough to change it, was kind of used to it. And Max is a nice name, however there are too many dogs with that name. |
Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 12:10pm
I'm not picking on you, honest! but... I chose Kiya's name out of a movie, and Nat and I have another girls name from a different movie we would like to use in the future. As someone who's name came from a movie, why was it a bad thing? (I'm genuinely curious) ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 1:17pm
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At the time 1973, it was unusual to name your child after someone in a movie, I got teased a lot about my name when I was in school, people still have a hard time spelling it.
I guess its more common now to use names from movies. Its interesting that I trend towards more traditional/common names for my future (unborn) children based on my experience, where as I know people who are the opposite for the same reason. |
Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 2:04pm
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I even have trouble with first names: Hope, Faith, Joy.... I mean, "Please fix your attitude Joy" comon!!!! ------------- |