Five W’s?
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Topic: Five W’s?
Posted By: aimeejoy
Subject: Five W’s?
Date Posted: 05 September 2005 at 11:10am
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Just wondering if any of you have heard about or tried five w's? One of the others at antenatal classes sweared by it along with raspberry leaf tea. Apparetnly its a herbal product you take daily for your last five weeks of pregnancy. Works similar to rasp leaf tea in improving uterine tone etc and supposedly making labour easier and shorter. Am going to go and investigate at the health shop. Couldnt find much about it online. Also anyone done perineal massage? From what I've read there doesnt appear to be any consensus on whether it helps reduce tearing or not, but I'm open to anything! ------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 |
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Posted By: Roksana
Date Posted: 05 September 2005 at 11:16am
I heard about the perineal massage in my antenatal classes....I dont know if I feel comfortable enough to do them..... Did not hear about the rasberry leaf tea before...let me know what you find out! ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: mumstheword
Date Posted: 05 September 2005 at 11:29am
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The perinanl massage thing scared me..lol if you keep stretching the thing for that long will it ever go back??? and the rasberry tea is great i havnt used it but allm y friends that have gone full term have and they reckon it was great to help get everything back to normal.... and with there labours no body laboured for more than 8hrs and 9 of my friends used the tea?? coincidence or does it work??? ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 05 September 2005 at 11:47am
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lol yeah I know the perineal massage sounds a little scary! Curious to know whether it actually makes a difference or not - i think not? ------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 |
Posted By: mumstheword
Date Posted: 05 September 2005 at 11:49am
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LOL i know 3 people that did the massage and they all had stitches???? im not keento try it lol ------------- http://lilypie.com"> http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 05 September 2005 at 11:50am
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well thats enuf evidence for me!! Dont wanna bother doing that if its not gonna work!!! ------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 05 September 2005 at 12:01pm
| I'm not sure if it's good or not. I took 5-W for about 5 weeks but gave up in the last 2 weeks. No tearing tho??? So maybe it did something? |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 05 September 2005 at 12:18pm
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I took raspberry leaf in the last two months I think and had a really quick labour. they say that it can cause premature labour....Jake was two weeks overdue.
I must say though, put some honey in it, cause it's pretty.....interesting. |
Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 05 September 2005 at 2:08pm
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I drunk raspberry leaf tea probably the last couple of months before giving birth, not like every day but a few times a week. No tearing or anything with me and my uterus has gone back really quickly. Josef was born 9 days early but I don't know if it had anything to do with the tea. I liked the taste and had it without anything added.
Never did perenial massage and had no tearing... sounded a bit weird to me too...  ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 05 September 2005 at 2:12pm
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meant to do the massage thing but never did... brought raspberry leaf tea, had 1 cup and never had any more... lol. 1st labour was 5 hours a few stitches, 2nd labour 3.5 hrs no stitches... so while there's evidence to suggest these things can help-... maybe just being fit and healthy and limber does the trick... lol ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja 
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Posted By: Roksana
Date Posted: 05 September 2005 at 2:20pm
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where do you get this Raspberry Leaf tea? ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 05 September 2005 at 2:23pm
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at the supermarket in the tea isle... it's with the herbal teas. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 05 September 2005 at 2:25pm
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or any healthfood shop ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 05 September 2005 at 2:25pm
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actually I still have half a pack here... the last cup I had was when I was in labour because I thought it might help the contractions be less painful hehehehehe ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 05 September 2005 at 3:18pm
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mum got it for me from woolworths. pretty cheap too. It was nice as I was trying to cut down on coffee.
Tried the massage thing once....hmmmm....not too impressed. I figured in the end, everything will be okay. I had some stitches and I can honestly say I did not feel the tearing or the stitches afterwards, although was a bit scared of the toilet trips there for a while. |
Posted By: nadine05
Date Posted: 05 September 2005 at 4:47pm
I would reccommend 5 W. It tones and prepares the uterus to prepare for labour. It supposedly cuts out alot of the 'mucking around' contractions that happen in early labour for alot of women having their 1st babies. These mucking around contractions are enough to keep you awake and annoy you but do little to make changes in the cervix (abit of a waste of time and energy!) so therefore make for a quicker more effective labour. Rasberry leaf tea does the same but 5w has more ingredients in it - heightening its effects. 5w is taken in the last 5 wks of pregnancy and rasberry leaf can be taken from 28 wks 1 cup per day, working your way up to 3 cups by 36weeks. Dont take either if you have a history of prem labour! Hope this helps!!! 
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 05 September 2005 at 8:37pm
| the woman who works in the natural remedies store in Palmy also swore by evening primrose oil inserted near the cervix. Isn't weird what you discuss with complete strangers with bubbas?? |
Posted By: bonjovi6
Date Posted: 06 September 2005 at 7:51am
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I've just read about the massage thing and I wont be trying it. In the pamphlets I've just read it quite clearly says, "There is no evidence to say it helps"
As for the tea, well, I've tryed it in the past and I really dont like the taste  ------------- http://www.snugglepie.com"> 
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Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 06 September 2005 at 9:14am
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yep i used evening primrose. I think it helped. All i can say is, do it at night and wear old undies. ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 06 September 2005 at 11:31am
i had full intentions on doing the massage, but...never could get myself to do it. in the end i had a c-section anyway so it didn't matter 
i've just read on the xtra homepage britney spears is hoping for a c-section next month cos she doesn't want to be in pain!!!!!!! good god!!! ------------- http://www.alternatickers.com"> 
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 06 September 2005 at 1:31pm
| yeah apparently her mother told her about how great a c-section is!!! |
Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 06 September 2005 at 2:38pm
What a wuss!!! She is soooo stupid that girl.  ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 06 September 2005 at 3:46pm
| mmm definitely lacking something in the brain department |
Posted By: mumstheword
Date Posted: 06 September 2005 at 5:14pm
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wait till shes had the c section and see how she feels then.. im dreading to have to have a nother c section I was in pain for weeks, i really want a natural birth but well just see how it goes.. drs still want to book me in for elective c section at 30 wks... thats only 8weeks away and im just not ready.. im starting to get panic attacks and just freak out moments to think i might be in labour within 3-4weeks, its all starting to come flooding back to me about how i felt when caleb was born, the heart ache of seeing my tiny lil buba attached to so many machines, not being able to cuddle him till he was 12 days old, worring if well bond OMG i just want his baby to wait a lil longer and be healthier and stonger.. I cry just thinkung about it, Its s strange because those memories where so distant and now it feels as if it was yesterday.. im the worlds worst stresser... ------------- http://lilypie.com"> http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 06 September 2005 at 9:56pm
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Big hugs to you, it must be so hard, just know that we are all thinking of you and hoping for the best for you bubs and your family.. 8 weeks may seem close, but it's better than the 3 - 4 weeks you mentioned.. every day/week counts towards your baby being bigger and healthier.
as for the brittney spears thing, betcha she won't be baring her tummy in those skimpy stage outfits after having all her tummy mucsles cut and stretched out. lol. ... you hear about these celebs who book having their babies into their schedule... isn't that what victoria beckham did? then she complains cos she's had too many c-sections and is advised she can't have any more... pfft, silly lady. 
------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 07 September 2005 at 12:54am
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i think people have an unreal expectation about birth
12pm Bikini wax 1pm have baby 2pm fashion show... |
Posted By: Roksana
Date Posted: 07 September 2005 at 9:16am
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LOL..... ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 07 September 2005 at 10:02am
I dunno Lizzie, that's what I did, didnt you????  ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Roksana
Date Posted: 07 September 2005 at 10:09am
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I was reading the bounty book last night and it said you should not drink raspberry leaf tea until 36 weeks because it might cause premature labour.....what if I have my baby at 38 or 39 weeks? will 2-3 weeks of that tea do the trick? I am confused! ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 07 September 2005 at 10:13am
Roksana - I don't know if it really does anything at all but I never even knew it was supposed to bring on labour until reading it here the other day, I thought it was supposed to get your uterus and body ready for giving birth  I drunk it before I was 36 weeks obviously because I didn't know this... But then Joey was born in the 38th week so who knows??? ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 07 September 2005 at 10:21am
| roksana I drunk from 36 weeks and Jake was two weeks overdue. it CAN bring on premature labour but doesn;t necessarily. |
Posted By: Roksana
Date Posted: 07 September 2005 at 11:19am
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hmmm....
So If I want my baby early...I should drink loads of that tea....LOL. I think I will ask my docs this Thur.... ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 07 September 2005 at 11:30am
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Then again, Maya was two weeks early and I didn't take anything...
LOL at Britney Spears - do these celebs think that there is ANY way to get the baby out without pain? They must be dumber than we give them credit for! I know what I wuold rather - Mum had a c-sect with my brother and was laid up for weeks afterwards, I had a VB with Maya and was up walking around a few hours later. GIven the choice there is no way I woulc choose a c-sect unless there was some medical reason for it. Back to Britney tho - the [ress is going on about how huge she is. Is it just me or does she just look normally pregnant? It seems that the press expect these celebs to be ultra thin with a tiny bump. Britney's baby bump looks normal to me... -------------  Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: Roksana
Date Posted: 07 September 2005 at 11:38am
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Too much fuss is made about Britney and her baby....all you see these days is britney went shopping...britney turned around and you could see her big tummy...britney ate a chocolate, cravings??......GOD!!!! I dont really care what she does.....
Weeks ago when my baby was breech I was scared that I will end up having a c section....I would avoid that any day!!! ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: mumstheword
Date Posted: 07 September 2005 at 5:20pm
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I so badly want a V-B but watever i suppose as long as the baby gets out alright... yeah 8weeks is a while but they say ill prob start labour in as little as 3 weeks like caleb but wat would they know they are only drs hehe but im thinking it may not be the same as Caleb, they arnt always right are they..
The britney thing.. yeah i saw an artiacl about how big she was and i thought she actually looked quite good.. maybe somebody should tell her to waer a bra but thats about it, good it would be good ifwe all stayed looking that nice ------------- http://lilypie.com"> http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 07 September 2005 at 10:21pm
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god forbid if you aren't back in size 2 a week after giving birth...you're obese. but if you are, you have an eating disorder. you can't win!!! I should stop buying gossip mags. Of course I only buy them for the recipes!
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Posted By: Xander&Harmony
Date Posted: 08 September 2005 at 7:44am
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Nathan keeps hasseling me cos I buy the womans day every week n it just so "happens" to have either Brad or Jen on the cover page lol ------------- BECS http://www.sparklee.com"> 
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 08 September 2005 at 8:28am
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yeah first it's brad with angelina going "we're so in love" now it's jen with some random guy (i do know him but can't remember the name) also going "we're so in love.... the pics that prove it." lolol... it's actually like they are using the magazines to make each other jealous! ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 08 September 2005 at 10:23am
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Vince vaughan.
LOL, at least I can use the excuse that I have to keep up to date with 'current affairs' as part of my job hehehehe ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 09 September 2005 at 2:13pm
| hahahah i don't believe anything in those magazines! |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 10 September 2005 at 12:11am
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my girlfriend is from england and they have this GREAT magazine HEAT. I've never seen such trash in my life. they had a two page photo spread of George Clooney pickjing his nose!! And in every magazine is "Spotted" where they see celebrities
"Billie Piper was buying 1ply toilet paper at Sainsbury" I love it! |
Posted By: AnnaD
Date Posted: 10 September 2005 at 7:38am
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I have a warped tendency to buy a magazine every tine there is Angelina on the cover... Andy teases me relentlessly!! Although I must say every time i buy a mag i vow never to again cause theyare such rubbish!!
Back to this raspberry leaf tea thing, my mum (the midwife) says that sometimes she thinks people who drink it bleed more? Anybody have anything to say about that? Do you drink it and bleed? I didn't bleed much at all! Thank goodness cause I am queasy with blood!! And I used the eveinng primrose oil, don't know if it made a diff but i had a five hour labour with no stitches? ------------- Anna and Quinn 10 July 2004 www.quinnariki.blogspot.com and one more on the way.... http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 10 September 2005 at 10:17am
| i bled a bit just after i had jake... and i mean lewis was cutting the cord, placenta came out and a whole lotta blood. they gave me a jab of something and it stopped. I didn't really care at the time. afterwards, i bled for about two or three weeks, so not much longer than anyone else i think. |
Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 10 September 2005 at 9:27pm
OMG Lizzie - my best friend just bought back a copy of HEAT from the UK and it was hilarious/disgusting I didn't know whether to throw it in the corner in disgust or keep reading (hehehehe, settled for just looking at the pictures and reading a few captions and pretending NOT to look at it when someone walked in the room, hehehehe)  ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 10 September 2005 at 10:36pm
| my friend's mother apparently buys it from a shop other than her usual one cause hse's too embarressed |