What is New Zealand turning into???
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Topic: What is New Zealand turning into???
Posted By: AnnC
Subject: What is New Zealand turning into???
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 10:14am
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horrific abuse
Thu, 26 Jul 2007 08:06a.m. Police have begun releasing details of what appears to be another horrific case of child abuse. Rotorua police say a three-year-old girl is in Starship Hospital in Auckland after being assaulted over a period of up to three weeks. She was taken to Rotorua Hospital last Sunday morning with a head injury and was later airlifted to Starship where she is in a serious but stable condition. Police say she was repeatedly assaulted by extended family members - with the assaults intensifying over three days at the end of last week. Medical attention was apparently not sought until at least 36 hours after the last assault. Police say they have charged four people with assault - men aged 17, 19 and 21 and a woman aged 17. Detective Senior Sergeant Mark Loper says the girl has a serious injury that required her emergency flight to Auckland. It seems to be getting worse since Sue Bradfords Bill, unless its just we are hearing more about it???? ------------- Ann 
Also Mum to Josh (15) and Brooke (10) |
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 11:02am
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It seems to be getting worse since Sue Bradfords Bill, unless its just we are hearing more about it???? I think you are on the money there, even since the bill was introduced there was more and more media attention on child abuse cases. If it hadn't of been introduced then something like this would have made BOP news and probably thats all. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: nuttymama
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 11:15am
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Wow that's so sad. I think about how much Abby cries when she hurts herself, you would have to have no heart to hurt a child the way these people do!! ------------- Abigail 06/01/2005 Jayden 21/11/2001 Micheal 03/04/1997 |
Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 11:31am
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It seems to be getting worse since Sue Bradfords Bill, unless its just we are hearing more about it????
Maybe thats the point of reporting it, as a test to the uselessness of Sue Bradfords Bill in preventing this type of violence. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">   [/url] Angel June 2012 |
Posted By: AnnC
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 11:32am
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I mean it was 3 males and 1 female - all young - but that is no excuse for treating a child like that.
i am sorry to blame the generations beofre them but you wonder what up bringing they had to do that to a 3 year old ------------- Ann
Also Mum to Josh (15) and Brooke (10) |
Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 12:17pm
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I think it has nothing to do with Sue Bradfords bill per se, just that the media is probably taking more notice of cases.
I'm shocked by how often these sort of things are happening!!!     ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 12:29pm
That is so very sad I have a 3yo DD and she is so lovely, I can't see how anyone could hurt someone like that - especially over the course of a week or whatever! And poor girl will probably remember it for a long time yet - Hannah still remembers events from last year  -------------  |
Posted By: caraMel
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 1:18pm
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I'm looking at my gorgeous little 3 year old and am absolutely horrified that anyone could hurt someone so small and trusting??? Let alone 3 of them hurting her!
It just makes me want to cry
I hope those kids that did it are put away and subjected to much worse in prison ------------- Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and: 
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Posted By: Mummy2three
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 3:48pm
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Aww that is awful!!! Makes me all teary thinking about that poor little girl I hope that the teenagers that did it get what they deserve. It said in the article I read that the mother won't be charged. Makes you wonder what she was doing when all this was taking place over the last 3 weeks
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Posted By: AnnC
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 4:31pm
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you wonder aye - mother can;t be charged! Why not! Isn't part of parenting to make sure your child is safe and well.
And I do agree we are hearing alot more about it not that there is an increase of these type of cases. ------------- Ann
Also Mum to Josh (15) and Brooke (10) |
Posted By: AnnC
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 6:21pm
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WTF Just heard on TV3...tying her to the clothes line and spinning it till she flew off, playing (???) pro wrestling with her -properly like on tv, putting her on the roof of the house?? What P#sses me off is that the neighbours saw this and did nothing! Whats so wrong with ringing the police and letting them know - it can be annonmously (or at least the police have to keep you annon)
sick sick!!! ------------- Ann
Also Mum to Josh (15) and Brooke (10) |
Posted By: nuttymama
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 6:45pm
AnnC that is exactly what I just told my DH. How the hell could you see that and hear her screams and not report it. It makes me sick to my stomach. Gutless ------------- Abigail 06/01/2005 Jayden 21/11/2001 Micheal 03/04/1997 |
AnnC wrote:Posted By: .Mel
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 7:03pm
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Yeh I can't believe the neighbours either, especially when they saw up on the roof crying....
Again.... how did the mother not know? Why didn't the little brothers say anything to their mother. I personally feel that the mother should be arrested... she didn't provide her daughter a safe environment... and what was she doing shacking up with a 17year old!? GRRR. Guess there will be alot of those "why" questions... I hope she pulls through and gets put with a family who'll care for her. ------------- Mr Mellow (16) Miss Attitude (8) Destructa Kid (3) 
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 7:08pm
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Posted By: Kels
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 7:27pm
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OMG and they put her in a ice cold bath then in the dryer That is so F#*Ked UP!!! I was so livid listening to the 3news and my 11yr daughter was in tears, she just couldnt believe people would do that to innocent children!! I cannot believe the neighbours heard/saw what was going on and didnt call the police, they need to be charged as accessories and I agree the mother needs to be charged too!!! Poor wee girl ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
Busy mum to Miss 15yrs, Miss 10yrs and Master 4yrs |
Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 7:41pm
I just read the update on stuff and I'm so mad!! How could anyone do that! I just wanna give the little girl a big, "proper" mummy cuddle and bring her to my place!!!!  How could her parents not have known anything in the last 2-3 weeks, and why do CYF think the other 4 kids are ok?
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 7:42pm
| I find it appalling that we live in a country where people think that doing that kinda of thing to a child (or hey an animal for that matter) is okay, or funny. it makes me feel physically sick. and as for the neighbours - |
Posted By: AnnC
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 8:40pm
i forgot about the ice cold bath and drier - another WTF. ------------- Ann
Also Mum to Josh (15) and Brooke (10) |
Posted By: marielb
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 8:46pm
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Isn't this just bloody awful
I want to take all these abused children in and give them the loving home that they deserve. 
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Posted By: Leish
Date Posted: 26 July 2007 at 9:07pm
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Infuriating and also very very sad for that poor little bubba. ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: 11111
Date Posted: 27 July 2007 at 8:50am
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Not sure if anyone else noticed but they said one of the men chargred was stepdad and 17 then they mentioned the Mun Was 30 something have to wonder what the Mother is on. I am thinking someone should hang them from a cloth's line by the neck that is. People like that make me so mad. and ------------- Deborah Mum to:   
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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 27 July 2007 at 9:32am
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This is so sad, and makes me angry.
What was the mother doing with a 17yr old anyways, and why didn't the neighbours call the police, I mean what did they think a 3yr old was doing on the roof. And this had been going on for weeks, the mother should be charged, for failing to provide care for her daughter. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> [/url] Angel June 2012 |
Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 27 July 2007 at 10:04am
| The neighbour said she saw the 3 year old on the roof with adults on the ground "taunting her". That's not normal behaviour!!! None of it is!! Putting her in a sandpit while she has things thrown at her. Maybe the alcohol wasn't the only thing in their systems, cos a sane sober person would never do that to a child (one would hope). |
Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 27 July 2007 at 11:15am
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It is so heartbreaking isnt it. I really do hope she makes a full recovery and gets put with a loving family who would never allow something like this to happen. Though I suppose she will end up back with her mother... ------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 |
Posted By: Mummy2three
Date Posted: 27 July 2007 at 6:43pm
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Yes I noticed that too. They said step father age 17 and I thought wow the mum must be young but then they said she is 34!!!! I really hope the girl pulls through ok and is put into a loving home. It makes me really sad and mad thinking about how many other children are out there having things like that getting done to them at the momment
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Posted By: Kels
Date Posted: 27 July 2007 at 8:30pm
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and now the 17yr olds father is being charged for abuse on the poor wee girl from 01 march till 01 July WTF is that!!!! BRING BACK THE DEALTH PENALITY FOR CHILD ABUSERS!!!! I cannot believe how we (meaning the child beaters in our society) are killing our babies in NZ and neighbours like these idiots living next to the little girl stand by and watch it happen ------------- http://lilypie.com">
Busy mum to Miss 15yrs, Miss 10yrs and Master 4yrs |
Posted By: AnnC
Date Posted: 27 July 2007 at 11:01pm
I feel like crying every time i read about this its awful and feel helpless to do anything, i mean if I was a neighbour and saw that happening i wouldn't hesitate to call the police, I even would of gone and got the wee girl (making sure my kids were safe first) I am no brave person by all means but theres no way that I would stand by and let a child go thru that, no matter how many there was there, surely out of all the ppl that were around they could of taleyed round and formed a safe group to get the girl out of harms way??? But alas I was not there to help that little girl.. so sad
heard sheis probably brain damaged. And she should NOT go back to her mother. Shaking up with a 17year old - okay cheep thrills but leavig you kids with him is wrong. He ex was 47 (she was 34) and apparently the 47 was just as abusive, the kid had no chance. ------------- Ann
Also Mum to Josh (15) and Brooke (10) |
Posted By: MyMinis
Date Posted: 29 July 2007 at 6:39am
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This made me sick to the stomach, DF was to angry towatch the news.
5 people ganging up onto a 3yr old is just not nice. If i saw my neighbours doing that id call the cops, its not right to jsut sit back when a child is treated liek that. apparently the neighbours said that they ahd loud music all teh time, probably to drown out the sounds of her screams. the step fathers father has alot to answer for to being 47 and being a part of the whole thing, what sort of example is he making for his son no wonder he's so screwed in the head. knowing our stupid nz justuce system they wont be locked away for long, they'll be back out on the streets before you know it, or jsut get off with a light sentence. maybe they should be given the abuse they put her through and see how they like it. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: AnnC
Date Posted: 29 July 2007 at 10:53am
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I am pretty sure hayleighs mum that injail they will get whats comeing to them as alot of the inmate do not like that when it comes to treating kids like that.. and they better not segragate them !!! ------------- Ann
Also Mum to Josh (15) and Brooke (10) |
Posted By: SquishysMum
Date Posted: 29 July 2007 at 5:48pm
Me too, BusyMum, and I have never given a mummy cuddle! I am SO angry I am crying about this poor little girl. I am FURIOUS at the neighbours who were happy enough to spill the beans to the news crews, and didn't call the police WEEKS ago - that little girl is damaged FOR LIFE and in my eyes they are as guilty as the people who actually layed hands on her. |
Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 30 July 2007 at 8:36am
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Anyone see Christine Rankin on breakfast this morning? Or read the stuff in the Sunday Star Times yesterday? Finally some people fired up about these cases - I hope it won't just stay "talk"....
Something needs to be done. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Red
Date Posted: 30 July 2007 at 8:51am
| When I read about this, I just felt sick, there are so many people desperate to have babies and would love them and look after them, if you don't want your child, give it to somebody who does! It is horrible, I just can't imagine how somebody could do this. |
Posted By: nuttymama
Date Posted: 30 July 2007 at 9:17am
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I couldn't sleep last night thinking about this poor little girl and what she must have gone through. We as adults can rationlise bad things that happen a wee tot this age can't. DH and I were talking about his at bed time, and he said he has never wanted to hurt someone as much as he wants to go up North and pummel these people. I'm sick of hearing peoples lame excuses as to why they didn't contact police, this never ever needed to go so far!! So often after these incidents like Nia and wee lillybing people come out and say "We thought something was happening, maybe we should have stepped in"!
I don't know what the answer is but somehow we as a nation have to say enough is enough and put a stop to ignorant uncaring people hurting our precious children. I agree with the lady on 3 news the police and cyps need more power in taking children away, they shouldn't have to wait until the t's are crossed and the i's are dotted. How many times have we been told after an event like this that they were in the system but they couldn't act. I would rather have a policeman knock on my door and check the safety of my screaming tantrum throwing child, that maybe a neighbour was worried about and go through that inconvenience, than have this happen to another child. I'm just so haunted by this poor little girl and what she has been through as DH said how can people have such little repect for another human being. ------------- Abigail 06/01/2005 Jayden 21/11/2001 Micheal 03/04/1997 |
Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 30 July 2007 at 11:23am
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I am absolutely disgusted by this as well. What annoys me is the "PC gone mad" thing we hve happening here, where people won't ring police etc cos it's "none of their business" or they're too scared, and CYFS etc don't step in early enough cos of all the red tape PC nonsence. Another thing that sickens me is the fact that this woman started going out with her partner when he was 15, so that is child abuse as well, and VERY VERY sick. What on earth can a 15 year old boy do for a 30 year old woman???? and she has a whole tribe of other kids (one of whom is older than the boyfriend, or close in age to, anyhow) and most of them live with other family. How on EARTH can a woman let her child be treated like this?????????? man, I feel big time guilty and sad when I yell at Jake, so I can't imagine that. Sick SICK SICK Bar$tards. ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 30 July 2007 at 2:01pm
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and now a 12 week old baby (also from rotorua) has been admitted to starship.
Disgusting, makes me sad and sick and very very angry |
Posted By: AnnC
Date Posted: 30 July 2007 at 2:25pm
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I just read a bout the other baby being admitted. They do say that at least one a month are admitted to starship with head injuries from abuse - so sad that NZ is like that, for a small populated country thats a high number... poor babies.. ------------- Ann
Also Mum to Josh (15) and Brooke (10) |
Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 30 July 2007 at 3:04pm
I think thats half the problem, is people don't know who their neighbours are anymore. When I was little (back in the 70s), my mum knew all the neighbours around our house and across the road. We had a nosey neighbour two doors up who could see into our backyard, and if the ever saw anything going on would ring my mum. People don't do that these days, it should be everyones business. Who would want to live in a community where the neighbours beat their children. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> [/url] Angel June 2012 |
Posted By: AnnC
Date Posted: 30 July 2007 at 5:16pm
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its true you need to get to know your neighbours. Must admit we know the one next door and a couple across the road but the other side is a young male whose never home so don't have much to do with him although we do know him as its Josh's friends brother.. ------------- Ann
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Posted By: MyMinis
Date Posted: 01 August 2007 at 8:07am
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i agree nobody knows their neighbours anymore.
since growing up in a small town with neighbours so nosey (but nosey in a good way) i have become nosey watchign who comes and goes form my neighbours homes etc. I would hate to think something horrible went on and I knew about it and did nothing. i miss the neighbour hood watch we ahd in arrowtown and motueka it was great, and made you feel safe. up here people all keep to themselves i dont know any of my neighbours that ive had up here, except for 2 but only cause we all shared the same driveway. I think the key is to live in an area where they are all retired people, they seem to be the only areas where ive lived that have had a watch group, ours in motueka even offered to prune our 60 odd rose bushes in our garden  ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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