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    Posted: 29 August 2011 at 8:45am
Is anyone else using/used the methods in this book?

There are a few questions I've got that either the books not answering or I'm missing so I'd like to hear from those who've used it.

My boy's sleep cycle seems to be 30min.

When I put him down at night 7pm, he cries a bit falls asleep then wakes up after 30min. Now I do nothing he cries a bit then goes back to sleep and I don't hear from him again for hours. During the day, he cries more then sleeps for 30min and wakes up crying. This crying sound/looks the same at the 7.45pm cry - do I get him up or leave him and see if he goes back to sleep like he does at night?

He has a stint in the car seat every morning and afternoon. When he falls asleep in the car which is not at a nap time do I get him up as soon as the car stops? Or let him stay asleep in the capsule? Or attempt to transfer him to the cot?

I'm getting to grips with the nap times and the CIO part, but I BF my boy and feed him way more often than 4hrly. I'm putting effort into not letting him fall asleep while BF, but do you think the sleep training will still work if I don't use her feed times?
I also don't want to dreamfeed as it's past my bed time and I'm happy with him night feeding so wasn't planning on doing her weaning approach either.

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Hi there, my understanding is that with catnapping like this under the SOS approach you should get him up and keep him up until his next sleep ... not feeding until four hourly (though I often feed half an hour early). Or you get him up and he has the rest of his sleep time in the stroller or car...
I started TH routines at about 10 weeks and it has been great... sometimes DS catnaps, other times will sleep for two hours during the day. Started sleeping through the night about two weeks after starting solids. Hope this helps. Good luck.
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which area are you, I hear the sleep clinic has been amazing for a few mums I know in a similar situation. If you aren't sure where one is in your area maybe get hold of your plunket nurse they should know where one is. I know that there is one in manurewa. Basically you stay there for a day and they monitor you and then show you good routines and advice, I've only heard good things about it. A friend of mine went a few months ago we both had the same problem with a babies having 10min-30min naps and they were crying alot from being so overtired, she went there and has never looked back and we copied the advise she got now my girl sleeps 3 good sleeps during the day up to 2-3 hours and sleeps through the night. You might just need a good routine.
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I had the same issue with my son and I am sorry to say that nothing worked. He had a 30 minute awake for 2 hour cycle until he was about 9 months and it got better. I gave him a dummy which settled him quickly to get rid of the crying (only used for sleeping). No amount of patting or driving around or walking or white noise would get him to sleep longer. I gave up. I kept his feedings at the same times each day even if it meant right before a nap and the sleep I let go of. It was traumatic for both of us to force him into a pattern that he wasn't ready for. He didn't get locked on to being fed to sleep as it never happened consistently before he went to sleep so don't worry about that. And getting rid of the dummy is easy at a later point when he understands more, only takes a couple of days if you are consistent and limited its use to sleeping. Worth what you score in time from geting him to sleep more during the day. I know how hard it is but he will grow out of it. I was very set on following routines and stuff but it turned out that his routine was not my routine and I had to adapt or have a grumpy baby all the time. It's not worth it.
He will grow out of it.
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It sounds like while you have read the Tizzie Hall book, your son has not

Maybe what you are finding is the inevitable meshing of your child's routines with what someone else says he 'should' be doing.

4 months is around the start for most babies to fall into a rhythm or pattern to the day. I would use the book as a guideline and just see where you and your son fit within it.

Not all babies want to be bf every 4 hours, and dreamfeeds don't work for all babies either.
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I use to get my boys up if they woke after one sleep cycle and cuddle them for 15-30 minutes then pop them down again and they'd have a longer sleep then. Thats after I left them grizzling for about 10 minutes though.

Is he due for a sleep round the time he's in the carseat? That would be a factor in whether or not I woke him up. If he *is* due for a sleep within the next half an hour I'd leave him or pop him into bed (or pop his capsule into his cot). If he isn't suppose to be due to a nap but he regularly drifts off I'd adjust the routine to suit the natural rythm hes showing you.

Routines and sleep training can be great but the biggest key to getting them to work is to watch your baby for a few days and note *their* cycle. how long do they stay awake before they start showing sleep cues? How long do they feed for and is it a full feed or are they snacking? Then you structure your routine around that. You can nudge babys routine to gently stretch it to work better for you and adjust your expectations slightly so baby stays settled.

Good Luck!!!
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