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    Posted: 01 November 2005 at 10:59am
Jake has been on solids for a week, and so far so good. he really loves apple, seems to like farex and I tried him on kumara yesterday which he also seemed to like. My question is this. How much? he ate a whole tin of apples and wanted more (I gave him some farex after that) and he had about 3/4 cup of kumara yesterday. He dosent tell me when he's had enough, and I'm worried I'm over feeding him (or underfeeding him, as I stop wehn he's finished what i've made?)some people have been saying only give him a few teaspoons or a tablespoon, but my big boy wants more? (he's about 8kg, 65.5cm tall, fully breastfed)
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I'd feed him as much as he takes. Maya was a piggie baby, I made most of her baby food at home but to get an idea how much she would eat by 6 months she would eat a large tin of meat and vege baby food followed by a smaller tin of fruit. If I had offered her any more she would have gobbled it. We have a hard case video of me feeding her and if I was too slow with the spoon she would open her mouth and make a dive for it!

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Jake does that too.
I have been making his food as well, but had bought some tinned apples to try (also I love them on my pork!lol!)
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We only used the tinned food when we were out, mainly because with all her allergies Maya was quite restricted to what tinned foods she could have.
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I remember Arna ate HEAPS!!
She now has 3 weetbix for breakfast
Also when she was little I would hold the spoon and plate apart (one in each hand) - she would look at one hand then the other and back again and scream for some food!!

As to quantities (sp?) - I gave her 3/4 of those small glad ware containers when she was 1st on solids... However she use to tell me she had had enough by not opening her mouth, shanking her head etc..

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not all kids know when they have had enough, are you making sure he has a milk feed first, cause that is still important till about 9 mths.   

and dont forget what you put in is going to come back out, so easy does it at first might be a good idea.

also a fist sized portion (of the person who is eating it) applies to kids and adults alike.

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Yeah he has a big feed first of breastmilk, he just seems to really like the food!
I am trying to get im to have some water as well, but he's not that keen yet. any tips?
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i wouldnt push the water if hes having solids and milk then he should be getting his water that way.Harmony has been on solids for a month now too.she isnt keen on water yet but amnot fussed if she dont want it yet.will try again when summers well and trueloy here
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i used to put a cup of water on gabriels tray and it was his choice - over time he got used to drinking from it, but i didnt push it either.

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Paris took to solids really well - and would eat about half a plate - one of those kiddie size bowls - full of food after a big feed. by the time she was 5 months she was having 2 - 3 solid meals a day, and she loved it. she wasn't too fussed on the water either - but i gave her an avent cup with handles and would leave it down where she could reach it once she was old enough to move around, or i would wait till she was playing and then she would be so engrossed in what she was doing she would have a few sips when i offered - but that was when she was a bit older. now i just leave a sipper bottle down low and she has learnt to go back and forth all day and drinks as much as she likes - she mainly only has the offer of water or milk.

Ayja - i have tried her a few times with solids and she isn't interested, am gonna try her again this week and try to increase the amount she has and make it a regular thing - seems funny that by now paris was having so much or a huge variety of foods - and ayja is only just setting out - i have even forgotten what i should introduce and when - so had to stick the guide on the frige!
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me too, with the guide on the fridge! The thing with the water, is I worry about him getting constipated with all the kumara he hoovered up yesterday (rod is convinced that is why he was crying tonight and last night while I was at work...)I guess its just trial and error, i was just wondering how much?
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I can sympathise with you about bubs crying for daddy. When i was on placement Ayja was a bit of a terror for Mike. She didn't like the bottle and alot of the time she wouldn't sleep, and would just scream cos she was hungry and he gets stressed pretty quick - the first 2 nights when i came home he was near breakdown. the next 3 nights were great, she slept well and drank too.   but when i got called in at a moments notice to attend a birth it was first thing in the morning i had nothing ready for ayja, and she screamed all day - he rung me up and i could hear her screaming in the background.. thing was - i couldn't leave no matter how much i wanted to.

so, i've been trying to get him to spend time with her when she's happy and fed, and when he's not stressed so that she gets used to him, and he can see that she doesn't "hate him" like he thinks she does sometimes. I can only hope my next placement she behaves for him, lol. but since i am on mornings for 2 of those weeks he will only have to look after her for 1 week of nights. sometimes they just need to suck it up and figure out that if they take the time to get to know their kid and spend time with them then baby will respond better to them.. babies bond with adults through learning trust, and at this age - they learn to trust the person that does things for them and meets their needs - so if your hubby can take over and play an active part in normal routines whenever possible (no matter how much "work" that might seem to be) then jacob will learn to trust him and they'll bond a bit better - from there everything just progresses so much easier.
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Thanks so much for that, i'm pleased I'm not the only one. It has been hell. Last night he rang me at ten to 8, and I could hear Jacob screaming, it was awful. Luckily I was almost finished, but like my boss said (luckily she is a friend, and understands, anyone else would have sacked me by now!) what happens if I have to go to hospital or something. I said to him last night about the trust thing, and asked him to spend less time in his garden and more with his son for a while to build up their relationship. He still says he has a hard day at work and needs to lax out when he gets home (like I don't work, shesh!), but I guess we wil sort it. He thinks Jacob hates him as well, so we will be starting ont he night time routine stuff tonight, getting him to bath feed and play with Jake. As far as i can tell, the veges are grwoing great, and will cope withut him for a few weeks!!!
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i made a rule in our house when gabriel was younger, dad has to bath him and get him ready for bed and read a story... now my hubby says that bath time relaxes him too...oh and in the summer he would take him out to water the garden with him so he can combine both.

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I usually take a bath with Jake and have done since he was newborn (pretty much because I was freaked about dropping him alone). I call for Lewis and he takes jake and dries and dresses him. I COULD get out of the bath and help, but I usually don't and stay in the bath and relax. They bond and I can relax!

however as I was working so much I actually found that Lewis and Jake had a great bond but that I really had to work on keeping up Jake and my relationship. I was delegated to bathe and feed him, and that really helped. On the weekends, at least one hour we would have mummy and me time where jake and I would go off and do our own thing - usually just taking a walk. it really helped.
Also, as Lewis did the majority of stuff during the day, and generally had a lot more experience with kids, I felt that he was much better with Jake than me.
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Yeah since day 1 David has bathed Arna and I have done pretty much everything else!!
On his weekends off it is also my time to go out with my friends without Arna and for him to spend time with her. When she was real little David didn't do much with her (played with her when I was around) but now its great.

Think the males need them to be a bit independant before they are comfortable with them.

Hope the solids go well!
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Argh!! Just worte a massive post and then deleted it!!

My point was... i think sometimes it is harder for the men to get used to little bubs cause there is usually the mum to hand over too when things get rough!! Whereas the women HAVE to get used to it pretty quink (I am def generalising here!)... Andy used to freak out being left with Quinn when he was younger (quinn that is!) he'd need a pile of food and dummies and nappies and toys prepped before i left!! Now that Quinn is older than hang out quite easily together!!

And re the feeding... Quinn has always been a piglet, eating until the food ran out! Plunket always told me to keep him eating til he stopped but we always ran out of food before he was full!! My theory (actually my theory for most things baby) is just wing it... it all gets easier as time goes on!!
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Thanks so much for your advice, ladies, in regards to my deilemas! So far, the solids thing is going ok (not too keen on the smelly, smelly poos, though!lol!) Jake is starting to let me know when he has had enough. As for the other problem, I think it will be a long battle!
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Nah, not too long... they don't stay babies for very long and I'll bet you'll have to battle your hubby for time with Jake once he gets a bit older!

Until then I hope Rod learns to cope
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Me too, or I think I will go CRAZY!
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