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    Posted: 01 August 2011 at 10:43am
The other things I've been wondering about is how many C/S you can have- healthily?

I read that they recommend 3 as a limit because after that the risks of serious complications go up. While I have heard of people having lots of C/S, inclduing a friend-of-a-friend who has had 6, it's not without it's problems as she gets terrible pain at each period as her scar separates a little with the period cramps (!!!)

Seems like a looooong time away til we meet with an OB and are able to ask these things. I guess the answer doesn't make too much of a difference as bubs will still be coming out 'the sunroof' but I'd love to hear if anyone has been told by their OB the limit to how many C/S they recommend?




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i was told i had to wait one year at least for any outher pregnecy and i hava limit of 3 all up but as you can see i havent had to follow those rules as i only have one
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OB never told me Im only allowed 3.
He did mention the best not to get pregnant for a year thing thou.

So many people give you amazing old wives tail advice like you cant drive till 6weeks too, another thing the OB / MW never told me. I did ask them and they answered with drive whenever you feel ready too but check with insurance. I rung the insurance too and they said as long as I didnt have a GA (I had a spinal) im insured as long as I pay my premiums. So I drove at 2weeks.

my friend ignored his getting pregnant advice and did thou and had her 3rd a year after her twins were born and she lived to tell the tail. (same OB as me)
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I got my tubes tied during c-section #3 purely because I know I am done with 3 kids (each c-section has had its own dramas, and I dont want to put myself through any more)

I was told that up to 3 has its usual risks, no higher or lower each time, but beyond 3 the risk gets a little higher of complications due to the built up scar tissue mostly. Its a minimal increase, but the risk goes up nonetheless. These days they allow you to have tubes tied during the 3rd (or subsequent) section but they asked me at every appt if I was still sure, and again while on the table to be absolutely sure its the decision I still wanted to make.
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Mum had four - and it was on the fourth that she got some real damamge to her 'insides' (for lack of a better word - that covers uterus, bladder, bowel). She had some adherations from the previous three, and the fourth made everything a lot worse; now, ten years later she's having some very major surgery to sort it all out.

She was advised to only have three too, and went to arrange to have her tubes tied (didn't get it done on the third) to have the Dr do a preg test 'just to check' - and the positive result was my little brother

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thanks for these replies too

I have had scar tissue from past abdominal surgeries already too so maybe I should just stick to the 3 c-sections...might need twins though to get to my 5 kids!

Another thing to check with the OB when the time comes.

I'm sure most of this is just nerves because I know in advance that bubs is coming out C/S and I haven't had one before (and there's a lot out there about how 'bad' C/S are) so it's nice to hear from others who have been there, done that, and are totally fine! Will all be worth it when baby L is here




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I also think that even if you had 5 babies via VB it wouldnt be without its risks and issues/complications and post birth problems. My friend had her 4th standard textbook vb and had a huge bleed and blood transfusion to save her life. ANother friend has had a VB and her bladder is so damaged from it they dont know what the outcome is going to be. I know of a lot of people that have had problems from VB too is just that people are so quick to jump down your throat and tell you all the issues with c/s and not with VB.

Have you read the pro c/section chat/topic?

Im guessing this is your 2nd birth and 1st was Vb?

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How come you're needing a CS - is there any chance they'd let you try for a VB for a later baby (or your twins )? Regardless of whether you can have complications with VBs (well, obviously you can!), Drs don't seem to recommend a limit for them, so that might be an option if they'd let you. I guess it depends if #1 was a CS or VB, on how keen they'd be on that.

In any case, why not ask your surgeon what state your're in after this one - or the third? I don't know, but wonder if you had very smooth ops, they might be happier for you to try another. (In any case, I guess if you do what Mum did and get pregnant again, they'll do what's best for you - and if a VB is really out of the picture, it's not like they'll refuse to take the baby out But in saying that, after seeing what Mum's gone through, I wouldn't do it myself without the all-OK).

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girls rock: yep 1st was a VB- though I always laugh when people say I had her naturally cuz there was nothing natural about it! yea you're right, there are risks with any type of birth...it's a shame no-one's invented like a magic ray gun that could just zap the baby out


hopes, I had wondered that too, like maybe if I'm more 'ready' in another 5 years I could try for a VB then? With the risks of any VBAC, along with the risks I now carry of a VB, I don't think it would be an option unfortunately but you never know, in another 10 years things might be different and I'm lucky I have time, biologically speaking, on my side

C/S this time because of the damage that was done first time round. There's no way it wouldn't tear again, as it was that bad, and I bled out so much I'd risk losing lots of blood and while every now and then I think maybe that'd be an ok risk (after all I was in a hospital so they could stop the bleeding), DH said there's no way he would ever go through that. It was like something out of a movie; blood everywhere, staff panicking, they handed him the baby and shoved him aside and he sat there crying cuz he thought I was gonna pass away before I even got to meet my daughter.

It was a crazy time, I naively didn't even realise mums could still come that close to not making it from something as simple as blood loss, nowadays. In reality, when you're hemorrhaging it's freaky how fast you can lose blood before things get under control

Anyway drama aside, even with the surgery post birth I have some scar tissue and exposed nerves down there which would complicate thing a bit, but could possibly do a VB with an epidural...though that increases the risks of not being able to push and needing forceps again which would make any tearing even worse. It just seems like too much risk and bother for everyone involved; me, baby, hubby, the MWs, the hospital staff etc, but hey at least the option may still be there...a long time away in the future lol

ok excuse my novel, I get a bit carried away!




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how tru....their ant nothing natural about it. If I had a dollar for everytime someone said, oh its so good you had her naturally and i always replied well their wasnt much "natural" about it. I would be RICH!

for me it wasnt the 12hr of labour or the pushing for 2hours part that hurt, it was pretty standard as I had expected yes bloody sore but coped. hey even the episiotemy didnt hurt at the time thanks to the numming injections in my vaj/bum/perinum. it was how the last 1/2hr panned out with medical people everywhere, blood, stitches, a very sick looking baby and in a room that looked like some kinda multiple murder seen, after she was out me & DH just sat in absolute SHOCK for 3hours wondering if she would live even thou the peads had said she was fine, I just couldnt believe what we had been thru it was like some kinda out of this world experience like I was watching it from above and it was a horry movie. But then the next year or 3 off pain for me that followed the operative VB.

20mins of c/s and 6weeks of healing was a walk in the sunny sunny park of a comedy movie by comparison. I honestly had sore cheeks from smiling thru the entire thing and afterwards.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hopes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 August 2011 at 6:46am
An update from me - I mentioned this to Mum, and she reminded me that she actually had six c-sections; I had a brother and sister who passed away shortly after birth, and hadn't realised that they were both c-sections. Sorry for putting you wrong.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Greenery Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 August 2011 at 10:02am
my mum had 4 c sects in 5.5 yrs. She survived (this is what she told me when i was scared of having my sons c sect haha)
Midwife said 3 is recommended but shes had one lady in who has had 7..

will be interesting to see if the next one is also breech as my siblings and i were all breech!

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Girls Rock - I felt the same after my CS that followed a similar traumatic birth for my first. It was AMAZING!! I loved my CS!!! Such a dream birth :)
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Hmm, I hate that I have had 2 c sections - now Im gonna have have to fight to try for a vaginal birth - just cause I actually want to feel labour - even if its another section in the end
I dont trust myself to cope with a vaginal birth so Im guessing much work must be done in my head before I achieve anything close to the reality of a 'natural' birth, I hate pain! and Im a control freak

However,I digress, fresh out of school OB told me at my last C section - up to five before they would say no more babies. But in saying that it does depend on seperation issues, scar tissue, age, issues etc so I would say ask - so they answer is specific to your situation

I must say - elective c section was soo much easier to recover from than emergency - but I wasnt 'over it' so being so much more aware for the elective was quite daunting - I understood everything they were doing instead of being tired and just wanting a live baby to be born.
I was so sick the first time it was hideous, bled out - on the brink of needing a transfusion but never got one - so trying to make new blood, dealing with a sick child (heart kid) and trying to breastfeed was horrid. Was in a wheelchair and morphine for 5 days - and only discharged from the ward because they know I was staying in the hospital with my baby

Elective - felt fine home in less than 48 hours (alhtough I dont recommend that! go to birthcare if you can)
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Hey, sorry I didn't see this sooner.
I've had 5 c-sects, first two emergencies (GA), then 3 electives (spinals), OB is more than happy for me to get pregnant again if I choose to, he didn't even specify a time frame, he's been an ob forever so I value his opinion, he just said "when you feel ready". He also said 'whenever you feel ready' for ttc after my mc too. However, I do know of a few people he has said no to, including one who only had two c-sects, but she is very overweight with other medical issues.
I haven't had af since my last, nov10, so can't comment on pain but mine were always awful anyway.
OB said the most he did for one person was 10! She asked for her tubes to be tied after that.
My mum had three c-sects, then had to go back later for tubal ligation. Something to do with policies at the time, she wasn't supposed to have more than 3 c-sects but also had to be over 30 before she was allowed to have her tubes tied, go figure.
I should add I am healthy, 29yo, with no health complications (except for being a bit overweight) or 'abnormal' reactions to previous surgeries, pregnancies have all been fairly uneventful, babies full term, good weights, healthy etc.
I have thought of having a hysterectomy when I do decide that we're finished for certain though. I also think that if my ob did say "no more" that I would then ask for a hysterectomy. Mostly because I hate af, I have heard that some people get worse af after multiple c-sect, rules out chance of uterine cancer, and mum's tubes scarred so badly they flipped & twisted her ovary & she ended up having them removed, i.e further surgery.
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I reckon how many cs people can have is a case by case thing. My midwife's cousin had 6 cs no probs however when they did my second cs the lower segment of my uterus was very thin and my bladder had moved up high due to an adhesion. After #3 everything looked ok and I was told that 4 or even 5 cs should be fine. When they opened me up for #4 I was a mess. I even had a small hernia and a tear in my old scar (on one of the layers of the uterus I think which wasn't bleeding), I had a tonne of adhesions plus a very thin uterus. I was told to get my tubes tied or I could be risking my life and that of an unborn child. I was gutted but greatful to have my 4 kids and didn't want to have things be too risky so got my tubes tied. My ob said she has only ever done one more cs more complicated than my 4th! Recovery was ok despite getting my tubes tied at the same time. Five months on however, I got af back and it was really painful and heavy and I have light spotting on and off which started a few months ago and won't seem to stop for good. I also have such bad lower back/ pelvic pain. What could be causing the bleeding and pain?
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