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Leelee 
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Posted: 09 October 2009 at 3:38pm |
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We are still having bad sleeping issues with Alex and his doc has told us to try a dairy free formula so my question is which one is the best one to use?
Also what foods do I need to avoid, I know the basics but not much else.
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lilfatty
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Posted: 09 October 2009 at 5:07pm |
Well if the doctor suggested a dairy free formula wouldnt you then have to not feed him anything with dairy in it?
Did you doctor not actually tell you? .. Seems strange.
Sorry im not much help on formula types though. 
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Posted: 09 October 2009 at 5:38pm |
We're dairy-free, but we partly use Neocate formula (the funding for which has to be applied for by a specialist and then government approved). I'm sure if you head along to the supermarket, there will be several non-dairy formulas to choose from (eg soy, goats milk etc) - I'm no help on that fron because we've only used the neocate.
Going dairy-free on the food front is a mega challenge, as it's in almost everything lol (in the form of milk powder, whey etc). Here is a link for the manufactured food database, which you can search to find dairy-free foods.
Does the doctor think your boy has a dairy allergy or intolerance? If it's allergy, you can get a skin prick or blood test to confirm - personally I wouldn't want to have to go dairy-free unless you know it's necessary! 
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Posted: 09 October 2009 at 7:04pm |
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Do not buy soy. You can try either goats or sheeps milk formula but the proteins are very similar to cows milk so it might make things better or he might still react to it, or he might improve but not completely. The other one you can try that isn't dairy free but it has been partially hydrogonised (sp?) is karicare HA, again it might help or he might still react as the protein have only been partially broken down.
Really he should probably go onto either pepti or neocate (Spencer is on neocate) but as blondy said they are prescription formulas and only a paed can write a script for it. You can buy them but I believe that neocate is $85 per tin and each tin is only 400g (I would give you a tin to try but Spencer is on the toddler one which isn't suitable for under 12 months).
If you can afford to I would go and see a paed privately, Spencer's paed is awesome he knows so much about allergies and there is a very strong link between allergies and reflux, he does all the skin prick testing in his office as well so you dont' have to deal with medlab and he keeps it all light hearted and fun. Spencer even finds it ticklish.
Being dairy free is actually quite easy, just don't buy processed food, is full of tons of other crap they shouldn't (or we shouldn't) eat anyway.
Spencer eats a well balanced diet and has never suffered from not eating dairy, he doesn't eat egg either and avoiding that hasn't been that much of an issue either. Dinner is just good old simple foods, meat and veg. And for baking a just use rice milk instead, my DH didn't even notice me do the switch. There are some snack type foods that are dairy free, I can let you know which ones we buy if you like.
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Posted: 10 October 2009 at 11:44am |
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I would second cuppatea's advice to see a paed (or allergy specialist) if you can. They'll be able to help with guidance on all aspects of removing dairy.
And sorry if I sounded I bit negative! What I meant to say was that at first it can seem like a huge challenge to be dairy-free (and I was thinking more of my experience, since I'm still BFing to a degree, it means me being dairy-free too), but once you get your head around it, it really isn't that difficult, and you do just stick to simple foods.
Obviously getting the formula right is the first thing to get onto - we've also decided to stick to neocate rather than use soy or goats formula for the reasons that cuppatea listed.....but maybe as a short-term interim solution it might be worth a shot?
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Posted: 10 October 2009 at 10:34pm |
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I must say OMG about how much premade baby food contains dairy!!
I ditto Marisa in avoiding soy as well.
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Leelee
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Posted: 15 October 2009 at 9:41pm |
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Thanks for the reply ladies, we havent switched over yet, the doc said to try a soy formula but I wasnt too keen, he also said not to worry about avoid food with dairy in them just the obious foods like chesse, yoghurt etc so he just seemed a bit too wishy washy so we are going to take Alex to a paed to get his issues sorted
Marisa - What is the name of the paed that you have seen? We are going to take Alex to Rodney Ford (I think thats his name).
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Posted: 15 October 2009 at 9:52pm |
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Yep we see Rodney Ford, he is awesome. He is really good with the little ones. Spencer has been skin prick tested 3 times and each time he has found it hysterical, he is very very ticklish though. He's really thorough as well and does weighing/measuring and talks about development and any other concerns you might have.
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Posted: 17 October 2009 at 8:41pm |
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You could try De-Lact, it's lactose free and available from supermarket or biolab. Im surprised your doctor didn't suggest a trial of Neocate for you, might be worth going back to ask about it.
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Posted: 18 October 2009 at 10:36am |
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we see rodney ford too - he is fantastic with allergies etc, very expensive but worth it.
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What formula to change to?
