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Azza, I'm so sorry to hear you are having complications, it makes something sucky downright awful.

I'm Auckland based as well so please PM if you need any in-person support.
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Just spoke to my midwife and she says I dont have to go to hospital unless I get a fever.

I'm going to head to work tomorrow, I dont think all this obsessing is helping.

Thank you all again for the support - I'm blown away by how kind a group of strangers has been to me. Its so very, very appreciated!



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Azza I had 2 natural miscarriages (one being our honeymoon baby). I bled with both for 6 weeks and it started out heavy and then went light and then got heavy again.

If you soak a pad in 2 hours get yourself to the hospital. If you have any fever signs or cold signs go in as it might be a sign of infection.

In regards with J the only advice I can give you is just to give lots of hugs. Grant was totally shut down. He went on normally while I was literally in pieces both times ( I had a third biochemical mc but it felt different somehow, as if I knew it wasnt a baby).

I got very very cross and mad with people saying it was meant to be, just a glorified period and I even got mad at some people that really felt sorry for me. And it is all normal. I got super mad at Grant for just going on with life and saying it will happen for us ect ect. I literally wanted to kill him.

It was only after the second one and about 4 months after we lost that lo that I woke up and Grant was sobbing his heart out. He just kept on saying sorry sorry and he is trying to be strong for me but he cant hold it in anymore. We cried and cried for hours and worked through it. I realised his just expressed his grief differently and he was trying to hold it together for me. I loved that man a lot more after all of that.

I am here if you need to chat or anything and if you dont have my landline number let me know and I can mail it through to you.


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Azza I had 2 natural miscarriages (one being our honeymoon baby). I bled with both for 6 weeks and it started out heavy and then went light and then got heavy again.

If you soak a pad in 2 hours get yourself to the hospital. If you have any fever signs or cold signs go in as it might be a sign of infection.

In regards with J the only advice I can give you is just to give lots of hugs. Grant was totally shut down. He went on normally while I was literally in pieces both times ( I had a third biochemical mc but it felt different somehow, as if I knew it wasnt a baby).

I got very very cross and mad with people saying it was meant to be, just a glorified period and I even got mad at some people that really felt sorry for me. And it is all normal. I got super mad at Grant for just going on with life and saying it will happen for us ect ect. I literally wanted to kill him.

It was only after the second one and about 4 months after we lost that lo that I woke up and Grant was sobbing his heart out. He just kept on saying sorry sorry and he is trying to be strong for me but he cant hold it in anymore. We cried and cried for hours and worked through it. I realised his just expressed his grief differently and he was trying to hold it together for me. I loved that man a lot more after all of that.

I am here if you need to chat or anything and if you dont have my landline number let me know and I can mail it through to you.


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Thanks Shirena, it helps to know how long everyone else's bleeding lasted so I have an idea of what is normal.

I'm at work today and very glad to have the distraction and feel a bit more like "normal".

The last few days I have wondered how anyone manages to TTC again after going through this. Now I'm wondering when my next cycle will be so that we can try again . So things are definitely looking up.

I am concerned that it doesnt sound like anything will be done until we've had 3 successive miscarriages. Is this true? I was diagnosed with a luteal phase defect (and low progesterone) while in SA but have none of the medical records. Would I be able to get my progesterone levels tested if we fell pregnant again?



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It seems over here it is like that BUT you go to your GP and you INSIST they check your progesterone. I did this and asked them if it was normal this time around and she said everything is fine. Just for me to start worrying at 10 weeks that she hasnt referred me to the hospital team yet. She went on holiday. Saw the other dr that I just loved and he immediately saw a red flag due to progesterone being on the border line of being too low. Luckily everything worked out okay.

This time if I had to do it over I WILL insist that they do certain things.

Let me know if I need to get that number of the private gynae for you. Even if he just see you two or three times in the pregnancy or even just to help out in the beginning with tests.

He is from SA and moms at Grants work used him and say he is brilliant. One guy and his wife tried a while and had some complications and he helped them through it all. But really you have to speak up and INSIST on rights and that you want it done. If need be get your medical records from SA.


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Azza, If you have a good GP, just say that you want them done, and this is why and tehy should listen to you, if not finda nother GP. My GP will do anything so that I feel comfortable, including letting me do HCGs as often as I want up to 13 weeks... (even though she said its not normal to do that, and it wont show much, but I wanted it so she let me).
GL. And be prepared to stand your ground..


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I spoke to my midwife about it because I mentioned it to my GP (but I didnt think it would be an issue so didnt push it) and the GP didnt test. Next time I will insist (and also insist on HCG's regularly). The midwife says to be very clear and they will do the tests - I wish I had given it more thought this time, I was so excited that it was the last thing on my mind.

I think if we'd checked progesterone and started baby asprin we may not have lost the baby.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Emmi_ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 September 2009 at 4:25pm
Azza, you cant do that to your self... TBH generally when we lose our babies that early its cos the DNA didnt transfer properly so it wasnt due to low progerserone or the lack of baby asprin, just the same way as it wasnt because you had sex, ate at a cafe or had some cheese....
But I would still def get it checked next time ,just for peace of mind...
I hope that didnt sound harsh? It wasnt ment to be...


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I'm not entertaining guilty thoughts, I just think its a case of "when you know better, you do better".

Its a reminder that I wont be as complacent next time.

Having carried my daughter to term I had forgotten about the struggle we went through to have her - and that the reasons behind that struggle also cause miscarriage.



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Good, (I was just checking).
But your right, we do need to learn from everything that we do, and what happens to us. And so long as we do learn something from it then it wasnt wasted.
Well thats what I think anyway.

Your daughter is beautiful! She is just gorgeous. I am sure she will have a little brother or sister soon enough


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Originally posted by Emmi_ Emmi_ wrote:

Your daughter is beautiful! She is just gorgeous. I am sure she will have a little brother or sister soon enough


Thank you! She is divine




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re the testing that is hard.. my first was a DandC so bub got tested..
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My HCG levels have dropped from 6200 to 400 and the bleeding has slowed down. Midwife says this should indicate the miscarriage is complete.

I'm very relieved to have avoided a D&C!

Now hoping all goes back to normal so we can TTC again.



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That's awesome... well in the circumstances and all.
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That's great news, would be horrible to have to do it naturally and have the D & C as well

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mummyofprinces Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 September 2009 at 10:45pm
Great news T, glad those levels are dropping! Heres hoping you Ov again in a couple of weeks and you are chatting away in the June thread

Emmi she is even cuter IRL, beautiful blonde curls!


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that is good news(well you know what i mean!) :)
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Yeah, its very good news

Feeling more like I can move on now!



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