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    Posted: 27 September 2008 at 8:48pm
I recently sent Lauren's hair away to be analysed for allergies as she has quite bad eczema.

Here is the list of what she is allergic to :

Food preservatives
MSG
Paint Stripper (how random, as if she is going anywhere near that)
Asparatame (sugar sweetner)
Soybean
All citrus fruit
Cocoa
Coffee
Grapes
Kiwifruit
Cows milk
Onions
Pork
Plums
Wheat

What on earth am I going to feed my child!!!


Aaaaarrrggghhhhhh
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OMG Peachy, that's terrible! Poor Lauren & poor you for having to try to find things to feed her! Strange apples aren't on the list, didn't she used to react to them? Is she ok with them now?
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Peachy, I'd be inclined to take Lauren to a proper specialist, to confirm whether this is correct or not. I've heard mixed things about the accuracy of hair testing. You must be freaking out!

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Wow!, I had never heard of the hair testing before reading about them in Oct Mums. I would also get a second opinion if it was me, especially with something as large and influential as food intake (if that makes sense)


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This is only part of the list, its 6 pages long, but these were the "main allergies to avoid"!!! But the rest is general health which I am slightly surprised about and interested in some of the things they say eg; she is lacking in, Potassium and Iron deficient. She eats pretty much anything I give her, including loads of veges, meat, you name it, she will eat it if I offer!

They have recommended she takes Omega and fish oil every day which I have heard can reduce eczema flare ups, so am going to look into this.

At the end of the day, her allergies are not serious, just eczema causing so while I will follow vaguely the recommendations, I obviously will not cut everything out as that would just be almost impossible.

kabe I am thinking of taking it further and seeing a specialist.

manz, she is fine on apple now, funny ahy, yet when she was first given apple she used to instanty flare up!
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Wow, that IS a big list! Where do you even start?!

I've always been a bit sceptical of hair testing, and still am, but in the interests of getting to the bottom of the gremlins ongoing health problems I'm about to send their hair off to be tested so will be interesting to see what they come back with. According to 'conventional' testing Sienna has peanut anaphalaxis and that's all. They did have cows milk issues as babies tho and there's been some suggestion that might be exacerbating their ear problems/sucky immune systems so we'll see.
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PS. Mmmmm, paint stripper
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Oh man. how awful for you both.
I would follow up with a specialist too. They will hopefully give you access to a nutritionist as well as do more tests??
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Argh! So many fruits on the list! It would be a shame not to have her eat those.

You could try goats milk (since Soy is out too).

Anyssa is still gluten free and it isn't too hard - there are lots of rice and corn crakers and gluten free pasta. She has millet, cornmeal or quinoa porridge for breakfast. These are all available in the organic section of our local supermarket. A's excema flared badly with oats, so I'm not going to introduce any other gluten for a while now.

Lentils, chickpeas, polenta are all good for dinner.

I'm doing the best I can to be preservative free too, but they sneak that cr*p into everything - even frozen chicken pieces!

Sigh, I do all this and A still has excema....
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Ah that is so hard, I would also suggest seeing an actual paedatric allergy specialist though. And I know you aren't keen on cutting out all those foods but continued exposure to foods they are allergic to can cause the reactions to become worse. I would definitely cut out some of things that have come back like the cows milk and the soy and the preservatives. We are completely preservative, colour, flavouring and any other sort of additive free and its not that hard to do.
Spencer is also soy, milk, egg, nut and strawberry free. Oh and also onions and parsnips
You soon get use to what you can and can't buy for them and how to adjust recipes to suit.

With the iron deficiency thing, eating foods the gut can't cope with can cause malabsorption of iron, I think the gluten one is particulary bad for doing that. Just something to consider.

I really hope you find some more answers, and hopefully a shorter list of things to avoid

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In the meantime, if the reactions are only excema forming why not cut those foods out for a couple of weeks and then slowly introduce one or two back in and see what reactions you get.  Maybe introduce the foods that would be a pain to avoid.  She might be ok.  But I second the others, get a second opinion as you dont want your life to be more difficult than it has to be.  and heres hoping she outgrows some of these.
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Have you thought of seeing a naturopath, who can help devise a menu of foods you can safely give her.
Check packets as soy, milk and citrus are in a lot of things as flavour enhancers.

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Peachy. Hope you get the answers you are after with a second opinion.

Interesting that grass/pollen isn't on the list.
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It does she suffers from hayfever though NikkiB, so I assuming that is the pollen/grass allergy!

I cannot believe what soy is in, it is in EVERYTHING! We just went to the supermarket to buy her some special food and soy is such a common thing, much more common than I ever thought!

I have also started her on Flaxseed Oil for children today, that was recommended in the report and came highly recommended from the Naturopath at our local Health World.

I have cut out all dairy products for two weeks now and her eczema is barely even there now.
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Yep soy is a real pain. My allergy book says that most people with soy allergy can cope with soy leitchin(sp?) as it is a form that has been broken down quite a lot. Just something to try if you reintroduce it later on as it tends to be in a lot of foods as an emulsifier.

I find signature range and homebrand pretty good for not adding a load of crap to their products and the other good brand to look for is ogran and they can be found at pak n sav and new world or organic shops. I found for cruskits and rice cakes etc though that I had to buy organic to be able to get ones without soy.

Good luck and it does get easier.

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well look on the bright side.... peanuts and eggs werent on the list...

apricots?
pears?
Melons?

and aspartame - thats good, one way to make sure she never wants to put that poison in her body...


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Interesting that the nightshade family of foods isn't included.
That's potatoes, tomatoes and kumara.

It may mean she has to have a more simple diet with less processed foods, as that's where a lot of the problem foods are.

Plain oats made up with water or rice milk makes a yummie breakfast. Do you have an organic supermarket in Auckland? A trip to one to see how much is available that doesn't include wheat or soy might be a help.

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I have heard about hair testing and have been advised that it is not recommend to be done for allergies testing because they can give you a poor or false results.
Skin pricks or RAST test is the best way for allergies from my experiences with medical biochemistry degree.

I agree with OPs that you should take child to allergy specialist or do this elimiation test yourself, by remove one food for three week then reintroduce to see what happening. Then you know which ones is the "true" allergy.
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soph, I have done exactly this with removing dairy products and her skin has improved immensely!

I am not taking the results as gospel, but most of them I am inclined to believe, not just for allergies, but for general healths sake!
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My nephew was is a similar situation with his eczema flaring up with different foods, his dad is a herbalist and got a blood sample sent off to the usa for testing and came back with similar type of results ranging from not so allergic to very allergic, he is now 13 so takes some responsibility in what he eats but was gluten, egg, dairy, high acid foods, honey, wheat were all in the high catagory, he also had a reaction to apples.  I also found out by defult that Anastasia reacts to egg whites very badly but she can eat the yolks, she is also old enough to tell me that the whites tasted yuck with a very funny look on her face.  We also found it interesting that my nephew could eat Oak Baked Beans but not Watties as there was an extra additive.

Good that so far it has only reacted with her skin and hasn't been life threatening, hopefully she will grow out of most of them

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