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    Posted: 11 December 2010 at 7:59am
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That would be horrible to come to!Poor family and bubba




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The carer should be named and shamed.

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Agree with Kellie and man I would be so pissed off it wouldn't be funny.
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Gosh I would have been straight on the phone to Porse or to DP who would have been straight over I have no doubt. I also would have waited maybe 5mins and smashed a window to get baby out. Its completely irresponsible as well as inexcusible!


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I can't imagine what was going through her head to think it was ok to leave the baby for over 2 hours?? What could possibly have been so important? Could she not have taken the baby with her? She supposedly has her own children, so I wonder if she took them and left the baby?

They've named her now and seems the father did force his way in. He wasn't sitting outside waiting
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Oh that's good, it made it sound like he had sat outside waiting, i was thinking WTF, why didn't he break in?

It's so horrid and sadly will put a lot of people of in home care when there are some trully great carers out there that would never ever do something so ridiculously stupid and irresponsible. I'm glad they've named her and I hope porse talk to other in home carer companies to make sure she doens't sign up to work for someone else.

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They named her in the Sunday Paper yesterday, apparently she was under alot of stress. No excuse though - she should have rung the parents if she had to go somewhere urgently.
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I'm glad this story was in the Herald, more mums needs to know that despite inhome operators saying you can have piece of mind with them it's not always true. My then eleven month old baby was in home based care and when I got home I found he had bruised bite marks on his body.

I immediately rang the carer, she replied that it hadn’t happened while the child was in her care.
I believed her and took my son back the next day and blow me, more bites that night.

I took my child out then and rang the supervisor, who promised to follow up. To my disgust, this same mother is advertising for more children in the local paper. So I rang the supervisor and she said she believed the carer that it hadn't happened at her home and no further action would be taken.

This mum should be dealing with her poor child's jealousy issues that his toys are being played with not taking in more children.

Since I have started telling other mums about my experience I've heard of other carer's boyfriends popping in and scaring the children in her care; how children can spend hours in the car dropping of the inhome carer's children to school and so on. If you can find a good inhome carer I am sure they are fantastic but how do you know. I read in the US when in home carers had videos put on them over half of parents took their kids out! What does that tell you.

Trust your instincts mums.
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I guess when you leave your child, your most precious treasure with anyone you are never a hundred percent safe, but some really do make it worse for others, like the one you had Bebymumma, and the family in the article.
As 2boys said its a shame,because there are some great carers out there, my mother nannies for porse and she would never ever let anything happen to the kids she looks after....if you put your kids with an inhome carer, you have to trust your instincts and if it doesn't feel right, take them out





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I read that she didn't lose her job, just got a fine and that it was stress, can't find the article but will keep searching for it.
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A $200 fine is BS. You would think leaving a child home alone, a child you are being paid to look after, would be a sackable offense.

She says in the article that Porse supported her??
Also, her husbands comment that it was "just a silly mistake" is a bit too much really :/



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Anyone else who left THEIR OWN kid at home, let alone a baby would have got a harsher penalty if you ask me...
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only a $200 fine? thats ridiculous,she should have lost her job for that





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crazy she should have been fined heaps more!

I would never leave my child in an educators / in home carers home. As an ece teacher and have worked visiting in home carers, i have seen some shocking practice! I would never leave my child with one adult in a house all on their own. Who is watching them? Where is the accountability.??
Who do they have over to visit?

Nigel latta doesn't think it's a good idea. it's just too risky.

there are some excellent carers out there but childcare with more than one adult is just safer in my opinion.
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One of the mums I know was telling us that she had an interview about putting her DD in an in home care based care and the woman who run the place said she had recently interview a few people wanting to be carers but had to turn them down because one - to discipline children would 'place her hands on their heads and pray' another said she'd 'lock them in their bedroom until they understood'.

You have to wonder, they must have been very honest people, imagine the people that maybe BS to get the job.
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Originally posted by LJsmum LJsmum wrote:

crazy she should have been fined heaps more!

I would never leave my child in an educators / in home carers home. As an ece teacher and have worked visiting in home carers, i have seen some shocking practice! I would never leave my child with one adult in a house all on their own. Who is watching them? Where is the accountability.??
Who do they have over to visit?

Nigel latta doesn't think it's a good idea. it's just too risky.

there are some excellent carers out there but childcare with more than one adult is just safer in my opinion.


I think this really depends on your carer. We have an excellent porse carer, who has become like extended family for us, and I wouldn't have things any other way. DD's personality meant that when she went into care part-time at 12months, there's no way she would have coped with a large daycare setting, and now she loves her carer and the other kids so much, we don't want to move her!

I did interview several carers before finding one that we 'clicked' with, and you do have to be very careful obviously (apparently especially in West Auckland ), but we took the time to get to know DD's carer, and as we have no family around, it was the perfect option for us. In my mind, it was a more realistic setting that wasn't completely child-centric (where 'normal' things like doing the groceries, dishes, housework became something that DD learned from - just like she would at home). Obviously you need to have a trusting relationship with your carer and have really good communication!

Do I think this particular carer was completely irresponsible and negligent? Yes, of course.... but that doesn't mean that all carers are.

Anyway, just wanted to stand up for porse and west auckland as we've had really good experiences! I think sadly there are always going to be people out there that don't think through their actions and end up hurting other people....and absolutely a $200 fine wasn't enough! (why oh why didn't she just tell the family what she was doing? ).
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$200 is an absolute joke, she should have been given a lifetime ban from caring.

Blondy we are much the same, my eldest would not have coped in a chaotic daycare setting he gets too overwhelmed, and no surprise really I was ready to leave them after 5 mins cos they do my head in, imagine being stuck there all day! Plus it meant my two boys could stay together rather than being separated out like daycare centres do.

I have no doubt our carer would give her life to protect my boys, she's one of the most awesome loving people I know, plus she doens't do it for the money, she does it because when her own kids went to school she missed having little ones around, she genuinely enjoys looking after them, rather than just doing it for a few extra bucks which I know some SAHMs do.

I guess at the end of the day their are risks to in home care but then there are also risks to centre based care as well, there have been enough horror stories about those in the media and I know plenty of friends who have to change centres as they had concerns about the level of care/attention that their child was recieving.


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There are risks in both home based and centre care, BUT in centre care there is accountability, people are around and there is always more than one adult.
The number one concern i have about in home care is ther is only one adult and possibly 4 children that's the max, maybe 2 under 2yrs and 2 over 2yrs.
So what happens when the carer has to go to the toilet ? or change a nappy ? Where are the 3 other children or deal with a phone call??

I understand that the carer can't be with the children every second. But i would just never do it! it's tooo risky.!!!

There are some awful centres BUT saftey wise,they have polcies, practices, accountability they are safer in my view. Having worked in both fields.

In regards to concerns over care and attention at centres. Always pick a smaller centre with less kids than 50 for preschool, 25 or less is ideal.
For under 2's less than 15 is ideal.under 1's less than 6.
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Originally posted by LJsmum LJsmum wrote:

The number one concern i have about in home care is ther is only one adult and possibly 4 children that's the max, maybe 2 under 2yrs and 2 over 2yrs.
So what happens when the carer has to go to the toilet ? or change a nappy ? Where are the 3 other children or deal with a phone call??


How is this any different to a SAHP looking after their own four children on their own?

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